You honestly think that the leaders of North Korea don't have access to world information?
I was referring to the people. The people have no access to information and thus don't feel compelled to overthrow the regime.
Travel, see the world, see what the other side is like, then tell me how much better it is.
I was born in east europe, studied undergraduate in a western european country and have seen the better part of western europe. I am currently a postgraduate student in east asia. My girlfriend is also a student here and comes from a country without democracy. I've never been to NK but I've learned not to judge based on hearsay. So please spare me the education peptalk.
Your right.. Nazi Germany was just.. Different. Stalin's Soviet Union was just... Different.
Two can play this game you know. Before nazi germany and the rest it was the British Empire, France and Spain who went off and enslaved people, put them in ships and brought them back home to collect their cotton. How far back do you wanna go? There's been war throughout mankind's history but at least to their defense those were times when people had no access to information. Same as the middle east, China and north Korea right now. No access to info = bad regimes. But what excuse does the US and UK have for bullying and overthrowing other countries?
Actually I base it off a variety of news sources, including those that NEVER said there was nukes in Iraq (not sure what Iraq has to do with this but whatever). I also base it off first hand accounts and video documentaries, including groups that operate inside China (safe from the US Media your so scared of)
Point taken. NK is a horrible place to live in.
"To sum it up, we (the west) have no right to judge them since we are no better than them. Perhaps even worse. At least they oppress their own people whereas we oppress other countries!"
Do yourself (and everyone else) a favor and educate yourself before spouting such garbage. Maybe do some travel, I seriously doubt you've been to any of these countries you've mentioned that are just as good if not better then the US or Canada. Stop insulting the people living in North Korea by saying they have it as good as we do. Go travel or hell, go live in North Korea for a few years, experience their "Utopian Society".
Could you perhaps elaborate on what part of my statement is garbage and "educate" me.
You see that's the problem with the west. Some people can't just accept that other countries are just..different. Why can't you just accept others as they are?
And where exactly do you base your opinion on North Korea? On the news? The news that said there are nukes in Iraq and that terrorists are hiding in Afghanistan? ROFL.
To take things even further? What makes you think that western democracy is better than totalitarian communism? You see what is happening in the west? Corporations control countries and CEO's get rich while poor people are being thrown out of their homes. I bet in North Korea everybody gets a home to live in. But then again I'm only guessing.
Don't get me wrong, I don't like regimes where there's no freedom of speech either but where do we get off judging them? You can speak freely in the US? Yes so long as you don't damage certain interests. Canada too I hear has been crazy with conservative censorship lately.
To sum it up, we (the west) have no right to judge them since we are no better than them. Perhaps even worse. At least they oppress their own people whereas we oppress other countries!
I bet if you replace "North Korea" with "CIA operatives in North Korea" you'll get more hits.
Plx read more. I recommend Noam Chomsky as a starting point.
Dear Lord Byron *STOP*. You buffoon *STOP*. You carpet bagger *STOP*.
In all seriousness, I would be interested in knowing WHY you consider them unfriendly.
This is similar to the planned obsolescence strategy of many electronics manufacturers. The idea is that even if the carrier fucks you in the ass, you'll switch to one of the few competitors. The competitors also fuck their customers in the ass and they, in turn, will switch to you. It's a win-win.
I assume you base your opinion on your extensive study of world history huh? Sounds more like conservative TV narrative to me. Read up a little you ignorant drone.
I assume you base your opinion on your extensive study of world history huh? Sounds more like fox conservative TV narrative to me.
Read up a little you ignorant drone.
Read some history please. The U.S. is, as far as I know, by far the most tyrannical "democratic" government in recent history. I recommend Noam Chomsky as a good starting point.
Am I the only one who is against the proliferation of data over radio? Be that wifi, 3g, 4g or whatever? It has been proven that radio waves transfer their energy to nearby tissue so if we keep this up, I think it's a matter of time before the human lifespan is 8 years old from radio waves induced cancer.
Thank you for a very insightful comment. I was wondering about that last part: "Never forget...to forget" ? I know it's ironic i just dont understand what you mean.
Besides, if the US is governed by such horribly evil people, you should be hoping that more and more jihadists are created to topple the US government and enact a nicer Taliban-style government in its place, right?
*sigh*... No. Not right. I'm pretty sure that if US foreign policy stops being abusive in the Middle-East, pulls its troops out and the spooks stop conducting covert ops there to establish dictators and destabilize the region, the jihadists will soon chill out.
I mean, since it's not our place to say that Sharia Law and a dark ages outlook on human rights are bad, there's nothing wrong with them, whereas our laws & government are just geared towards invasion & subjugation, and rotten to the core.Right?
Are my arguments so absurd to you that you feel the need to mock me? I'm truly disappointed in my debating skills.
A government that sanctions mutilation as punishment, represses of ~50% of its population, that executes people in public stadiums, that sanctions stoning, that chops off a woman's thumbs for wearing nail polish, that carves off a woman's ears and nose as punishment for running away from a husband she claims is abusive, who harbor and support jihadist training camps... this is naked evil.
To further address your concerns: The case was the same in early Europe/US, where women were mis-treated and considered inferior to man. We realized it was wrong and changed our ways (somewhat). Why not let them figure it out themselves? Why enforce your morality and ideals to them?
Just give them free uncensored access to information and they will soon figure everything out themselves. They don't have free speech and free internet? Those, they must claim themselves. i.e. rise up against their government and sort things out.
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There's probably a difference between not enslaving people, enslaving people and committing genocide.
I agree with you. I'm just saying that people who's government are the indirect cause of genocides via military coups have no right to pass judgement.
You honestly think that the leaders of North Korea don't have access to world information?
I was referring to the people. The people have no access to information and thus don't feel compelled to overthrow the regime.
Travel, see the world, see what the other side is like, then tell me how much better it is.
I was born in east europe, studied undergraduate in a western european country and have seen the better part of western europe. I am currently a postgraduate student in east asia. My girlfriend is also a student here and comes from a country without democracy. I've never been to NK but I've learned not to judge based on hearsay. So please spare me the education peptalk.
Plx read some Noam Chomsky asap.
Your right.. Nazi Germany was just.. Different. Stalin's Soviet Union was just... Different.
Two can play this game you know. Before nazi germany and the rest it was the British Empire, France and Spain who went off and enslaved people, put them in ships and brought them back home to collect their cotton. How far back do you wanna go? There's been war throughout mankind's history but at least to their defense those were times when people had no access to information. Same as the middle east, China and north Korea right now. No access to info = bad regimes. But what excuse does the US and UK have for bullying and overthrowing other countries?
Actually I base it off a variety of news sources, including those that NEVER said there was nukes in Iraq (not sure what Iraq has to do with this but whatever). I also base it off first hand accounts and video documentaries, including groups that operate inside China (safe from the US Media your so scared of)
Point taken. NK is a horrible place to live in.
"To sum it up, we (the west) have no right to judge them since we are no better than them. Perhaps even worse. At least they oppress their own people whereas we oppress other countries!"
Do yourself (and everyone else) a favor and educate yourself before spouting such garbage. Maybe do some travel, I seriously doubt you've been to any of these countries you've mentioned that are just as good if not better then the US or Canada. Stop insulting the people living in North Korea by saying they have it as good as we do. Go travel or hell, go live in North Korea for a few years, experience their "Utopian Society".
Could you perhaps elaborate on what part of my statement is garbage and "educate" me.
I'd like to know where you base your information. Could you please cite your sources?
You see that's the problem with the west. Some people can't just accept that other countries are just ..different. Why can't you just accept others as they are?
And where exactly do you base your opinion on North Korea? On the news? The news that said there are nukes in Iraq and that terrorists are hiding in Afghanistan? ROFL.
To take things even further? What makes you think that western democracy is better than totalitarian communism? You see what is happening in the west? Corporations control countries and CEO's get rich while poor people are being thrown out of their homes. I bet in North Korea everybody gets a home to live in. But then again I'm only guessing.
Don't get me wrong, I don't like regimes where there's no freedom of speech either but where do we get off judging them? You can speak freely in the US? Yes so long as you don't damage certain interests. Canada too I hear has been crazy with conservative censorship lately.
To sum it up, we (the west) have no right to judge them since we are no better than them. Perhaps even worse. At least they oppress their own people whereas we oppress other countries!
I bet if you replace "North Korea" with "CIA operatives in North Korea" you'll get more hits. Plx read more. I recommend Noam Chomsky as a starting point.
Dear Lord Byron *STOP*. You buffoon *STOP*. You carpet bagger *STOP*. In all seriousness, I would be interested in knowing WHY you consider them unfriendly.
Americans mocking other countries... *Sigh* The impudence... the irony.... And such a low slashdot user id for that matter.
Does anybody really care about DirectX anymore? Linux, Android and Apple are picking up pace. OpenGL all the way.
This is similar to the planned obsolescence strategy of many electronics manufacturers. The idea is that even if the carrier fucks you in the ass, you'll switch to one of the few competitors. The competitors also fuck their customers in the ass and they, in turn, will switch to you. It's a win-win.
Sorry, meant to reply to the parent.
I assume you base your opinion on your extensive study of world history huh? Sounds more like conservative TV narrative to me. Read up a little you ignorant drone.
I assume you base your opinion on your extensive study of world history huh? Sounds more like fox conservative TV narrative to me. Read up a little you ignorant drone.
Read some history please. The U.S. is, as far as I know, by far the most tyrannical "democratic" government in recent history. I recommend Noam Chomsky as a good starting point.
I played the original Grand Theft Auto (no1) for 9 months straight.
Well the link to it said ALL BSA Members. Dunno if it's true or not
Link to page holding link to members list
You were wondering who is behind the BSA: Complete list of BSA members
Just so you know, visible light is EM radiation, and it has a much higher frequency than radio waves.
lol. Just so you know, this is slashdot. I'm pretty sure everybody knows the wave-particle nature of light.
But it's just an uninformed guess :)
Am I the only one who is against the proliferation of data over radio? Be that wifi, 3g, 4g or whatever? It has been proven that radio waves transfer their energy to nearby tissue so if we keep this up, I think it's a matter of time before the human lifespan is 8 years old from radio waves induced cancer.
ic thanks for the explanation!
Thank you for a very insightful comment. I was wondering about that last part: "Never forget ...to forget" ? I know it's ironic i just dont understand what you mean.
...This is abuse of power.
OMG! Are you saying that the Canada police abused their power? Get over here, libel charges for you too Mister!
Besides, if the US is governed by such horribly evil people, you should be hoping that more and more jihadists are created to topple the US government and enact a nicer Taliban-style government in its place, right?
*sigh*... No. Not right. I'm pretty sure that if US foreign policy stops being abusive in the Middle-East, pulls its troops out and the spooks stop conducting covert ops there to establish dictators and destabilize the region, the jihadists will soon chill out.
I mean, since it's not our place to say that Sharia Law and a dark ages outlook on human rights are bad, there's nothing wrong with them, whereas our laws & government are just geared towards invasion & subjugation, and rotten to the core.Right?
Are my arguments so absurd to you that you feel the need to mock me? I'm truly disappointed in my debating skills.
A government that sanctions mutilation as punishment, represses of ~50% of its population, that executes people in public stadiums, that sanctions stoning, that chops off a woman's thumbs for wearing nail polish, that carves off a woman's ears and nose as punishment for running away from a husband she claims is abusive, who harbor and support jihadist training camps... this is naked evil.
To further address your concerns: The case was the same in early Europe/US, where women were mis-treated and considered inferior to man. We realized it was wrong and changed our ways (somewhat). Why not let them figure it out themselves? Why enforce your morality and ideals to them?
Just give them free uncensored access to information and they will soon figure everything out themselves. They don't have free speech and free internet? Those, they must claim themselves. i.e. rise up against their government and sort things out.