That strategy implicitly assumes that what they need are trainable skills, and not natural talent based skills. If it's a natural talent, then presumably the potential labor pool is evenly distributed over the world, but there are legal complications to recruiting from the portion of that pool born unluckily outside the US.
The only thing in computer programming that is NOT a trainable skill is the ability to sit in front of a screen solving problems instead of having constant human contact. I would think the prevalence of video games in the United States would have produced plenty of "inborn talent" in that arena by now.
H-1b money doesn't get spent in the US anyway for the most part- anything above bare standard of living gets sent home so that other people in your family can live off it, just like the Mexicans on H-2A visas.
The issue is absolutely finding enough qualified people for the jobs that are available.
If that's the issue- and I hate to sound like a broken record, but I've posted this in EVERY freakin' H-1b story on slashdot- why not take UNQUALIFIED PEOPLE, and then pay for their traing so that they can fill the jobs that are available? Wouldn't that be cheaper than getting people from half a world away?
You do. Google, however, has arguably given up their censorship rights voluntarily by having the "Do no Evil" clause in their charter *AND* seeking to become a portal. In other words, by doing those two things, they raised the public expectation of the company to a different standard than that which governs you. Censorship is *definately* evil, in all cases. Does this mean they have to have links to any given website on their home page? NO- because that's not how google works. The user of google has to enter search keywords to get to links to outside sites.
Like renaming a public building/stadium after your company?
No, that's just advertising, and it doesn't fit in a job fair booth. No, I mean some symbol that you employees are a part of the local community, and that you have an interest in keeping local livability standards high.
Free speech, dumbass, means you're free to say it. It doesn't mean that you're free to force other people to publish it.
True. But the point is, Google's claim to fame was that they would "Do no evil" while making money. Censorship in a media company that claims to treat everybody equally is arguably evil. Google put themselves on a higher moral plane (than any libertarian could pretend to be on) and failed.
I'm in State government. I thought we had similar requirements; certainly the job description for that team lead (for which I also applied & interviewed for) had as a requirment an Associate's Degree or better- but the guy who got it only has a high school diploma.
No, really- that's what I'd like to see. It doesn't have to be just an American Flag of course, but some big visible proof that your small business is a part of a larger community- instead of merely taking advantage of the freedom you have to make money.
Feel free to not use Google then. I'll be happy when there are NO shitty domain typo/search term squatter pages in the world, "Googlebombs" be damned.
This is about far more than just google- though the error in their pagerank routine opened the door. It's really about protecting free speech even when you dislike the use of that speech- an ideological position that I believe we've made our respective points on. I may not like what you say- but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. Are domain typo/search term squatter pages the net's eqivalent of cheap tabloid journalism? You bet. But that doesn't mean we should be limiting their ability to find a wider audience.
Does this team lead hold significant stock in the company or is a founder?
No.
How long has he been working for the company and how many people are above him?
If I'm reading the org chart right- there's at least 5 levels of people above him (nothing like government for adding layers of management). Underneath him are several well-educated people, even people with Master's degrees- so the point is that the glass ceiling is only partially based on education.
True- but apparently they're not enough to advance in a capitalistic society- or for that matter, even stay employed for any significant period of time. In the 6 years since I was finally diagnosed (at age 30!) I've been working hard to aquire a set of if-then-else statements that approximate human social behavior- regardless of the fact that the whole damn process feels like a lie to me.
But then again, from that point of view, the idea that the United States is a meritocracy is a lie.
And as such it has pretty much proven that regardless of the intent of the original entrapreneurs, making money is inversely porportional to doing good.
Actually, no, but I've been reading Manna by Marshall Brain and it occurs to me that both the dystopian and utopian possibilities in that sci-fi novel can be done with current technology. We finally have data stores big enough, networks fast enough, to mine the needs of billions to fullfill those needs. We can do so basically (dystopian) or luxuriously (utopian), but we can at least make sure there is no longer any waste in the system.
Yes, that's the definition of Asperger's syndrome- no social skills. But in a meritocracy, one should not need social skills. One should only need talent.
Incorrect- true marxism has been tried on the small scale and tends to break down at about 800 citizens. Which is why I'm "Marxist Hacker" instead of "Marxist"- I think it can be done with more people, but you need to put the machines in charge instead of the bureaucrats, and you need to have your engineering right. Marx didn't have computers, and thus his method is the unrefined and unworkable version.
But nobody ever tried "true capatalism" either.
Actually, that's been done rather sucessfully in the Principality of Monacco, as well as other small countries. HOWEVER, due to the chaotic nature of the market, nobody can prove if it is working or not working, because the data is too chaotic to examine.
And "true Christainity". And "true Islam". And "true whatever" for a very large list.
Well, true Christianity is arguably workable as Marxism is- it works great in small communal groups, such as monasteries.
You can't judge an ideology by what it promises. You must go by what it mutates into when people actually attempt to implement its prescriptions.
The problem with Lenin and Stalin is exactly that- they failed to even try to implement Marxism, and instead kept party membership to an elite group. Not that they would have succeeded if they tried; without computers Marxism breaks down when the number of needs exceeds the computational ability of the community.
After a number of trials the various socialist forms have mostly mutated into totalitarianisms of various sorts, with the main exceptions being cooperative businesses built by warping the corporate model by making the customers the shareholders.
And also cooperative businesses built by warping the corporate model by making the workers the shareholders. And also, once again, Catholic Monestaries and Contemplative Communities and Convents, where Marx got his original ideas. But once again, due to a lack of ability to process data, this cannot be adopted nationwide. My favorite analogy: Any ecconomic system where you can't kill the person who cheated you because you don't know who he is, is one that will break down into some form of totalitarianism.
Meanwhile, capitalism, even as it warps into mercantilsit and other monopolist tendencies, tends to feed, clothe, house, entertain, and empower its players better than just about anything else.
Where did you get that idea? I see it failing everywhere it's been tried, it's just another form of bread and circuses to distract you from what is really going on- just another form of totalitarianism, like any other anonymous market.
Which is not surprising, since free-market systems reward and empower those who produce, while socialist systems explicitly punish production and reward consumption - leading their industries to function badly and requiring coercive power to make them function at all.
Apparently you missed the part Marx borrowed from Plato- the Maximum Wage theory which explicitly rewards production. But that's ok- Lenin missed it to, as did Mao.
Second CFL's vary wildly in things like ballast frequency and phosphor color temperature and persistence. I assume you can watch TV or use an LCD monitor (for that matter the backlight on any LCD flickers at very high frequency).
Actually, when I'm close enough for fluorescent to trigger, it doesn't really matter the light source- it needs to be dimmable. And at that point, no, I can't use TVs or LCDs- I'm stuck bored and in pain in a darkened room.....but as somebody else pointed out, LEDs ARE dimmable down to a couple of lumens, so yes, there are options.
If you're not, the piece of paper will still break the corporate ladder's glass ceiling for non college graduates.
I have a Software Engineering Degree (Bachelor's), and 12 years worth of experience in the industry. One of my team leads currently has *NO* college degree. Where was that glass ceiling again?
Let me guess. The one that is all new product advertisment, no useful information, that people have forgotten they've signed up for, is getting labeled as spam.
Actually, both of these ARE INDEED SPAM- they're just spam that you're getting because you want it.
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That strategy implicitly assumes that what they need are trainable skills, and not natural talent based skills. If it's a natural talent, then presumably the potential labor pool is evenly distributed over the world, but there are legal complications to recruiting from the portion of that pool born unluckily outside the US.
The only thing in computer programming that is NOT a trainable skill is the ability to sit in front of a screen solving problems instead of having constant human contact. I would think the prevalence of video games in the United States would have produced plenty of "inborn talent" in that arena by now.
H-1b money doesn't get spent in the US anyway for the most part- anything above bare standard of living gets sent home so that other people in your family can live off it, just like the Mexicans on H-2A visas.
I work in my native land of Canada (its a little north of where you are), and yes, I make more than an H1B worker in the US. Killer
You could be on WELFARE and still make 10x as much as an unemployable American in the US. Killer is right.
The issue is absolutely finding enough qualified people for the jobs that are available.
If that's the issue- and I hate to sound like a broken record, but I've posted this in EVERY freakin' H-1b story on slashdot- why not take UNQUALIFIED PEOPLE, and then pay for their traing so that they can fill the jobs that are available? Wouldn't that be cheaper than getting people from half a world away?
You do. Google, however, has arguably given up their censorship rights voluntarily by having the "Do no Evil" clause in their charter *AND* seeking to become a portal. In other words, by doing those two things, they raised the public expectation of the company to a different standard than that which governs you. Censorship is *definately* evil, in all cases. Does this mean they have to have links to any given website on their home page? NO- because that's not how google works. The user of google has to enter search keywords to get to links to outside sites.
Oh yeah, and I use Scroogle.
Like renaming a public building/stadium after your company?
No, that's just advertising, and it doesn't fit in a job fair booth. No, I mean some symbol that you employees are a part of the local community, and that you have an interest in keeping local livability standards high.
Free speech, dumbass, means you're free to say it. It doesn't mean that you're free to force other people to publish it.
True. But the point is, Google's claim to fame was that they would "Do no evil" while making money. Censorship in a media company that claims to treat everybody equally is arguably evil. Google put themselves on a higher moral plane (than any libertarian could pretend to be on) and failed.
That's too bad- because it has a wonderfull potential for building a password-and-credit-card keeping machine.
I'm in State government. I thought we had similar requirements; certainly the job description for that team lead (for which I also applied & interviewed for) had as a requirment an Associate's Degree or better- but the guy who got it only has a high school diploma.
Why else would Bitlocker not be available in the Professional version?
And have them collect e-mail addresses of potential candidates on their boobs.
No, really- that's what I'd like to see. It doesn't have to be just an American Flag of course, but some big visible proof that your small business is a part of a larger community- instead of merely taking advantage of the freedom you have to make money.
Feel free to not use Google then. I'll be happy when there are NO shitty domain typo/search term squatter pages in the world, "Googlebombs" be damned.
This is about far more than just google- though the error in their pagerank routine opened the door. It's really about protecting free speech even when you dislike the use of that speech- an ideological position that I believe we've made our respective points on. I may not like what you say- but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. Are domain typo/search term squatter pages the net's eqivalent of cheap tabloid journalism? You bet. But that doesn't mean we should be limiting their ability to find a wider audience.
Doing good != Democracy.
See, that's a pretty strange statement to me, in and of itself.
Getting rid of google bombs is doing good for a typical user, its just done by means other than users voting with their clicks.
Censorship of political speech is never good for the typical user.
Does this team lead hold significant stock in the company or is a founder?
No.
How long has he been working for the company and how many people are above him?
If I'm reading the org chart right- there's at least 5 levels of people above him (nothing like government for adding layers of management). Underneath him are several well-educated people, even people with Master's degrees- so the point is that the glass ceiling is only partially based on education.
True- but apparently they're not enough to advance in a capitalistic society- or for that matter, even stay employed for any significant period of time. In the 6 years since I was finally diagnosed (at age 30!) I've been working hard to aquire a set of if-then-else statements that approximate human social behavior- regardless of the fact that the whole damn process feels like a lie to me.
But then again, from that point of view, the idea that the United States is a meritocracy is a lie.
And as such it has pretty much proven that regardless of the intent of the original entrapreneurs, making money is inversely porportional to doing good.
Actually, no, but I've been reading Manna by Marshall Brain and it occurs to me that both the dystopian and utopian possibilities in that sci-fi novel can be done with current technology. We finally have data stores big enough, networks fast enough, to mine the needs of billions to fullfill those needs. We can do so basically (dystopian) or luxuriously (utopian), but we can at least make sure there is no longer any waste in the system.
Yes, that's the definition of Asperger's syndrome- no social skills. But in a meritocracy, one should not need social skills. One should only need talent.
Yes, nobody ever tried "true marxism".
Incorrect- true marxism has been tried on the small scale and tends to break down at about 800 citizens. Which is why I'm "Marxist Hacker" instead of "Marxist"- I think it can be done with more people, but you need to put the machines in charge instead of the bureaucrats, and you need to have your engineering right. Marx didn't have computers, and thus his method is the unrefined and unworkable version.
But nobody ever tried "true capatalism" either.
Actually, that's been done rather sucessfully in the Principality of Monacco, as well as other small countries. HOWEVER, due to the chaotic nature of the market, nobody can prove if it is working or not working, because the data is too chaotic to examine.
And "true Christainity". And "true Islam". And "true whatever" for a very large list.
Well, true Christianity is arguably workable as Marxism is- it works great in small communal groups, such as monasteries.
You can't judge an ideology by what it promises. You must go by what it mutates into when people actually attempt to implement its prescriptions.
The problem with Lenin and Stalin is exactly that- they failed to even try to implement Marxism, and instead kept party membership to an elite group. Not that they would have succeeded if they tried; without computers Marxism breaks down when the number of needs exceeds the computational ability of the community.
After a number of trials the various socialist forms have mostly mutated into totalitarianisms of various sorts, with the main exceptions being cooperative businesses built by warping the corporate model by making the customers the shareholders.
And also cooperative businesses built by warping the corporate model by making the workers the shareholders. And also, once again, Catholic Monestaries and Contemplative Communities and Convents, where Marx got his original ideas. But once again, due to a lack of ability to process data, this cannot be adopted nationwide. My favorite analogy: Any ecconomic system where you can't kill the person who cheated you because you don't know who he is, is one that will break down into some form of totalitarianism.
Meanwhile, capitalism, even as it warps into mercantilsit and other monopolist tendencies, tends to feed, clothe, house, entertain, and empower its players better than just about anything else.
Where did you get that idea? I see it failing everywhere it's been tried, it's just another form of bread and circuses to distract you from what is really going on- just another form of totalitarianism, like any other anonymous market.
Which is not surprising, since free-market systems reward and empower those who produce, while socialist systems explicitly punish production and reward consumption - leading their industries to function badly and requiring coercive power to make them function at all.
Apparently you missed the part Marx borrowed from Plato- the Maximum Wage theory which explicitly rewards production. But that's ok- Lenin missed it to, as did Mao.
Actually, for the engineering versions of CS, it's SE or HE- Software or Hardware Engineering.
Second CFL's vary wildly in things like ballast frequency and phosphor color temperature and persistence. I assume you can watch TV or use an LCD monitor (for that matter the backlight on any LCD flickers at very high frequency).
Actually, when I'm close enough for fluorescent to trigger, it doesn't really matter the light source- it needs to be dimmable. And at that point, no, I can't use TVs or LCDs- I'm stuck bored and in pain in a darkened room.....but as somebody else pointed out, LEDs ARE dimmable down to a couple of lumens, so yes, there are options.
If you're not, the piece of paper will still break the corporate ladder's glass ceiling for non college graduates.
I have a Software Engineering Degree (Bachelor's), and 12 years worth of experience in the industry. One of my team leads currently has *NO* college degree. Where was that glass ceiling again?
Let me guess. The one that is all new product advertisment, no useful information, that people have forgotten they've signed up for, is getting labeled as spam.
Actually, both of these ARE INDEED SPAM- they're just spam that you're getting because you want it.
Yep- oh wait- Leninism and Maoism != communism, in fact had very little to do with communism other than window dressing.