Not that I like him, but he made some points. And escpecially you should know the other side. Or are you already living in some kind of unfree Russia/China.
--- You can mod me down, you may not be able to stand the truth, but be sure most probably truth will come on you.
>You buy cheap stuff, you get cheap stuff. That's how life works.:)
But, be asure that this image of China will shortly (10 years?) go away:
>Re:Crappy Chinese-made products
This was attached to every upcoming industrial nation long time before China. For example: Before 100 Years the UK used 'Made in Germany' as a bad label about crappy German products.
>Vote for Nader only if you want four more years of Bush.
Correct!
Only to explain the Guerilla Marketing from the subject: "WIR sind das Volk"
Was the slogan from us Eastern Germans used to sweep out the regime. Means something like "We are the people" (implying, you have lost all our legitimacy - all legitimacy comes from and belongs to us - we are now taking it in our hands").
Hopefully you in the US will follow our example and make the world a better place.
>>... that worked fine under Knoppix when running from the CD but stopped working as soon as Knoppix was installed to hard disk.
Yeah, but why install a live CD instead of of giving the Debian GNU/Linux Iso's a try (with the new Sarge installer) and learn it from the roots?
>>I just write it off to the arogance that almost all Linux geeks seem to have for newcomers who don't know the cryptic commands to change permissions or all the magic places startup configuration stuff is stored. The geeks who master Knoppix must come across the same problems, but just know where to go to twiddle the right bits to make everything right.
You are right in some way. But from time to time I come on thinking how good some hurdles are to keeps the 'unwashed masses' (MCSE's, Management, etc...) out of the wizardom of our for them too fine OS Debian GNU/Linux...:-)
>>> Now if only IBM would open source the fabulous Workplace Shell [wikipedia.org]!
YES, YES, YES.
IBM shall GPL'ing the Workplace Shell. May they should pay there developers and designers to work with the GNOME team. As the Eazel did with Susan Kare
>Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes! There is *nothing*... nearly as nice as the WPS
That's really true (maybe despite the Mac stuff). It was one of the best window manager ever developed and designed! And it should be open sourced under the GPL.
(Also OS/2 itself shall be open sourced as well. This as since 5 years they do not really care anymore about it. - The whole OS/2 story is only a shame for Big Blue. - And open sourced REXX should also be GPL'd.)
Maybe the world is more and more thinking this way if G W Bush will get reinstalled with its Junta duo Pentagon, Halliburton, M$, Diebold & Co.. Till now we use a lot of US stuff especially in IT and don't think about. Mostly we more tend to think more about Open Source vs. propritary software. But you should be really careful, as you are loosing the credit from the last 50 years as far as it could be. Wake up and elect a wiser (wo)man!!!
>I don't understand why Microsoft cares about the browser wars anymore. IE development costs them money
Cause the browser is the most important presentation layer in the internet age. I run it (FireFox) on a lot of operating systems no matter what is behind (at least not M$ crap).
You are mostly right and I think the reason they did not improve the cute bitch Solaris in the way you mention makes the difference: They improve Solaris there where PR and Management tells (remember all the esoteric features they announced for Solaris 10), not where the programmers and the users think it should. Thats the real crux with proprietary software.
BTW: >Why didn't Sun ever develop a useful packet filtering application instead of relying on the ipfilter whose releases can often be worse than beta quality?
You mention Iptables - you never heared of SunScreen shipped with Solaris 9? It's on of the best firewalls I ever saw!!!
Regards, xcomm
[SIG] I think we will see Osama captured right before the US election.
>This is a matter of sovereignty - if we started using international rulings/laws/precedents as formal declaration and settings for our own rulings, we are no longer our own sovereign nation and thusly might as well throw down our Constitution.
Really thats where all the problems begin in with you:
1 Kyotho - you are number 1 destroyer of our environment
2 The Haag - war criminals belong to The Haag - we think about Abu Graib
3 Iraq - a war against all international law
Summary - you are thinking your law is supreme to the whole world - thats causing you to lost a lot of good friends
>>were able to easily hack into the university's internal network
So what? It is always as easy especially if you are some kind of insider. But normally you do not hack your university for good reasons: a) It is yours. b) You will get a lot of trouble / lose accounts.
They are very right about the overall trend, it is to see since about a month or so. But, it seems to be much more in percent as the article stated. The above results are from an international non IT page. So this means Mozilla's are gaining under the common users.
MS Internet Explorer 86 Mozilla 5 Netscape 4 FireFox 3 Opera, Unknown, Safari,Firebird for the rest.
When going to the search engine section in awstats from my web server I see something very obvious. If something changes Googlebot is there after 2-3 minutes (thanks to adsense). Also Googlebot is back most frequently over the day and with a much higher amount of readed pages than all others. Yahoo seems to be in second place but much behind Googlebot. Don't ask which low frequency M$ has. To my point of view this means that Google has a cutting edge amount of GNU/Linux servers (100000 or 300000+ or ?)running to be able to do this. Nobody else seems to be able to catch them in this and at leat not M$ with boxes running under M$ crap systems. We have here some funny oximoron for for Bill and Steve as long as they use there own crap.:-)
As I hear it all over Buran is not used as it would cut a good part from the bussines of the US and Europe in moving expensive satellites into orbit. So it is bussiness only why it is not used as long as Russia is relying on economic aid from the west.
You may not like the dirty truth but it's all about beating a competitor out of the bussines.
>>Considering they're already 20 years behind our shuttle, why copy from our old tech?
Well - all this kind of technology is in some ways copied from the V1/V2 WWII (70 years old) cruise missiles in some way. The US technology is mainly founded on this (Werner von Braun). As well as is the Russian aviation technology is in other ways.
So it's nice to see the technology back developing in Europe this time for the good mean.
BTW: The best of all shuttle till now is the Russian Buran. It is a shame they are beathen not to use it to get aid from us western powers.
> We hosted close to 300,000 web sites; both Windows and Linux. Our customer base was roughly 60% Linux and 40% Windows; hosted on a little over 5,000 servers.
> 3,000 servers running Linux web sites > 2,000 servers running Windows web sites
Hmmm... where the hell have been working, Redmond? What I see in Frankfurt (Europe's second large backbone after London) is just the opposite to Netcraft too - but in the other direction. In my company are about (50000 servers) 85 % GNU/linux (Debian/RedHat/SuSE/Gentoo), about 10 % *nix (Solaris/HPUX) and about 5 % Windoze. The last part is mostly run from non techies, or based on some dumb management's attitude or used by gameserver hosters (the only reason with some sense).
And from what I see every day someone must really be brain damaged to run Web servers on this M$ crap in the wildlife from every point of view (recources, security, license costs, locked into a company fully untrustworthy...)!
Regards, xcomm
-- [SIG] Somewhere in Texas, there's a village missing its idiot.
--cited from netsharc at http://slashdot.org/~netsharc
1) I'm sorry to note this to you, but the guy who suggested Mozilla to drop bookmarks is not a troll.
I have got at least my prefs.js cleared of all settings several times on several Mozilla branches. I can not locate the old bug numbers at the short, but you may look on bug # 193638 as example.
I also got my Messanger as well as Thunderbird settings lost more than ones as it happens there too. It is really devestating to lose all your folders and mail filters if you did not make frequently backups of the prefs.js (what I did not, as this old Mozilla bug was resolved a year before it happens again to me in Thunderbird).
For short - this should not happen at all!
2) Mozilla should not fork there Browsers as they do. Either they do Mozilla or they do Thunderbird/FireFox. And then they should not again and again change their names and icons any more.
>>>Does this mean that we can see improvements in low end systems for desktop use, or is the benefit only for servers. Because if this helps low end machines, it extends further the number of machines that can move from (say) win 98 to a real OS, whose hardware has long been abandoned by microsoft.
Unfortunataly not!
I personally have not made the same exiting experience about the new 2.6.x kernels spead on my old PII 400 and 320MB (normally relatively fast due SCSI and 3Com TCP support). Especially if you have open some windows it reacts really harder than under 2.4. Different is sometimes only, that it seems to suggest you a better reaction, which is like the new scheduler is itnended to work.
So I'm running 2.6.x at home, but it's not looking to be the fastest kernel on small consumer gear. It looks designed for the big iron in the enterprise or at home. All other suggestions looking to me like propaganda.
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U.S. forces began allowing everyone to leave - except for what they called "military age males," men usually between 15 and 60. Keeping noncombatants from leaving a place under bombardment is a violation of the laws of war. Of course, if you assume that every military age male is an enemy, there can be no better sign that you are in the wrong country, and that, in fact, your war is on the people, not on their oppressors,
Greatings from Old Europe
BTW: Sure Offtopic - Only Guerillia Tactics Are Over To Reach You
Al-Jazerra released the real full transcript now two days later.
Not that I like him, but he made some points. And escpecially you should know the other side. Or are you already living in some kind of unfree Russia/China.
---
You can mod me down, you may not be able to stand the truth, but be sure most probably truth will come on you.
Al-Jazerra released the real full transcript now two days later.
Not at all - CNN is what we call Pentagon TV here in the rest of the world!
Al Jazeera (only an other kind of propaganda TV)
has probably more here:
Really Full Speech
For really objective information I would highly recommend you in the US:
www.occupationwatch.org
www.alternet.org
BTW: Al Jazeera had also more images of fallen childreen in Iraq as CNN showed you in the US clean video games or faked trailers.
-->This is the point Bin Laden made on you in his tape!
You are absolutely right with this:
:)
>You buy cheap stuff, you get cheap stuff. That's how life works.
But, be asure that this image of China will shortly (10 years?) go away:
>Re:Crappy Chinese-made products
This was attached to every upcoming industrial nation long time before China. For example: Before 100 Years the UK used 'Made in Germany' as a bad label about crappy German products.
>Vote for Nader only if you want four more years of Bush.
Correct!
Only to explain the Guerilla Marketing from the subject: "WIR sind das Volk"
Was the slogan from us Eastern Germans used to sweep out the regime. Means something like "We are the people" (implying, you have lost all our legitimacy - all legitimacy comes from and belongs to us - we are now taking it in our hands").
Hopefully you in the US will follow our example and make the world a better place.
>>... that worked fine under Knoppix when running from the CD but stopped working as soon as Knoppix was installed to hard disk.
...) out of the wizardom of our for them too fine OS Debian GNU/Linux... :-)
Yeah, but why install a live CD instead of of giving the Debian GNU/Linux Iso's a try (with the new Sarge installer) and learn it from the roots?
>>I just write it off to the arogance that almost all Linux geeks seem to have for newcomers who don't know the cryptic commands to change permissions or all the magic places startup configuration stuff is stored. The geeks who master Knoppix must come across the same problems, but just know where to go to twiddle the right bits to make everything right.
You are right in some way. But from time to time I come on thinking how good some hurdles are to keeps the 'unwashed masses' (MCSE's, Management, etc
>>> Now if only IBM would open source the fabulous Workplace Shell [wikipedia.org]!
YES, YES, YES.
IBM shall GPL'ing the Workplace Shell. May they should pay there developers and designers to work with the GNOME team. As the Eazel did with Susan Kare
>Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes! There is *nothing* ... nearly as nice as the WPS
That's really true (maybe despite the Mac stuff).
It was one of the best window manager ever developed and designed! And it should be open sourced under the GPL.
(Also OS/2 itself shall be open sourced as well. This as since 5 years they do not really care anymore about it. - The whole OS/2 story is only a shame for Big Blue. - And open sourced REXX should also be GPL'd.)
> So you never patch the kernel then?
Not every week.
Solaris may still be really reliable. All this Self-Healing & Hotswapping may be nice, but what me very much is making angry is this:
Nearly 50% of the needed patches need single-user mode to get installed and nearly 75% need a reconfigure reboot after applied.
I never need to reboot a Debian GNU/Linux production system that much to hold it up to date.
PS: And Solaris has to be realeased under the GNU GPL too be really cool!
Greetings from an other old European German.
Maybe the world is more and more thinking this way if G W Bush will get reinstalled with its Junta duo Pentagon, Halliburton, M$, Diebold & Co.. Till now we use a lot of US stuff especially in IT and don't think about. Mostly we more tend to think more about Open Source vs. propritary software. But you should be really careful, as you are loosing the credit from the last 50 years as far as it could be. Wake up and elect a wiser (wo)man!!!
(BTW: I prefer GNOME over KDE.)
>I don't understand why Microsoft cares about the browser wars anymore. IE development costs them money
Cause the browser is the most important presentation layer in the internet age. I run it (FireFox) on a lot of operating systems no matter what is behind (at least not M$ crap).
You are mostly right and I think the reason they did not improve the cute bitch Solaris in the way you mention makes the difference: They improve Solaris there where PR and Management tells (remember all the esoteric features they announced for Solaris 10), not where the programmers and the users think it should. Thats the real crux with proprietary software.
BTW:
>Why didn't Sun ever develop a useful packet filtering application instead of relying on the ipfilter whose releases can often be worse than beta quality?
You mention Iptables - you never heared of SunScreen shipped with Solaris 9? It's on of the best firewalls I ever saw!!!
Regards, xcomm
[SIG] I think we will see Osama captured right before the US election.
>This is a matter of sovereignty - if we started using international rulings/laws/precedents as formal declaration and settings for our own rulings, we are no longer our own sovereign nation and thusly might as well throw down our Constitution.
Really thats where all the problems begin in with you:
1 Kyotho - you are number 1 destroyer of our environment
2 The Haag - war criminals belong to The Haag - we think about Abu Graib
3 Iraq - a war against all international law
Summary - you are thinking your law is supreme to the whole world - thats causing you to lost a lot of good friends
>>were able to easily hack into the university's internal network
So what? It is always as easy especially if you are some kind of insider. But normally you do not hack your university for good reasons:
a) It is yours.
b) You will get a lot of trouble / lose accounts.
They are very right about the overall trend, it is to see since about a month or so.
But, it seems to be much more in percent as the article stated. The above results are from an international non IT page. So this means Mozilla's are gaining under the common users.
MS Internet Explorer 86
Mozilla 5
Netscape 4
FireFox 3
Opera, Unknown, Safari,Firebird for the rest.
Keep on walking Mozilla!
When going to the search engine section in awstats from my web server I see something very obvious. If something changes Googlebot is there after 2-3 minutes (thanks to adsense). Also Googlebot is back most frequently over the day and with a much higher amount of readed pages than all others. Yahoo seems to be in second place but much behind Googlebot. Don't ask which low frequency M$ has. :-)
To my point of view this means that Google has a cutting edge amount of GNU/Linux servers (100000 or 300000+ or ?)running to be able to do this. Nobody else seems to be able to catch them in this and at leat not M$ with boxes running under M$ crap systems. We have here some funny oximoron for for Bill and Steve as long as they use there own crap.
Unfortunataly I do not know it in English - otherwise could help you with native German...
Rgs, xcomm
As I hear it all over Buran is not used as it would cut a good part from the bussines of the US and Europe in moving expensive satellites into orbit. So it is bussiness only why it is not used as long as Russia is relying on economic aid from the west.
You may not like the dirty truth but it's all about beating a competitor out of the bussines.
>>Considering they're already 20 years behind our shuttle, why copy from our old tech?
Well - all this kind of technology is in some ways copied from the V1/V2 WWII (70 years old) cruise missiles in some way.
The US technology is mainly founded on this (Werner von Braun).
As well as is the Russian aviation technology is in other ways.
So it's nice to see the technology back developing in Europe this time for the good mean.
BTW:
The best of all shuttle till now is the Russian Buran. It is a shame they are beathen not to use it to get aid from us western powers.
> We hosted close to 300,000 web sites; both Windows and Linux. Our customer base was roughly 60% Linux and 40% Windows; hosted on a little over 5,000 servers.
...)!
> 3,000 servers running Linux web sites
> 2,000 servers running Windows web sites
Hmmm... where the hell have been working, Redmond? What I see in Frankfurt (Europe's second large backbone after London) is just the opposite to Netcraft too - but in the other direction. In my company are about (50000 servers) 85 % GNU/linux (Debian/RedHat/SuSE/Gentoo), about 10 % *nix (Solaris/HPUX) and about 5 % Windoze. The last part is mostly run from non techies, or based on some dumb management's attitude or used by gameserver hosters (the only reason with some sense).
And from what I see every day someone must really be brain damaged to run Web servers on this M$ crap in the wildlife from every point of view (recources, security, license costs, locked into a company fully untrustworthy
Regards, xcomm
--
[SIG] Somewhere in Texas, there's a village missing its idiot.
--cited from netsharc at http://slashdot.org/~netsharc
I really appreciate the new introduced use RMS gave the 'Free World' term.
--My regards to the last of the hackers!
Hi Hackers,
1)
I'm sorry to note this to you, but the guy who suggested Mozilla to drop bookmarks is not a troll.
I have got at least my prefs.js cleared of all settings several times on several Mozilla branches. I can not locate the old bug numbers at the short, but you may look on bug # 193638 as example.
I also got my Messanger as well as Thunderbird settings lost more than ones as it happens there too. It is really devestating to lose all your folders and mail filters if you did not make frequently backups of the prefs.js (what I did not, as this old Mozilla bug was resolved a year before it happens again to me in Thunderbird).
For short - this should not happen at all!
2)
Mozilla should not fork there Browsers as they do. Either they do Mozilla or they do Thunderbird/FireFox. And then they should not again and again change their names and icons any more.
3)
Mozilla should be released under GNU GPL!
Thanks, Jan
>>>Does this mean that we can see improvements in low end systems for desktop use, or is the benefit only for servers. Because if this helps low end machines, it extends further the number of machines that can move from (say) win 98 to a real OS, whose hardware has long been abandoned by microsoft.
Unfortunataly not!
I personally have not made the same exiting experience about the new 2.6.x kernels spead on my old PII 400 and 320MB (normally relatively fast due SCSI and 3Com TCP support). Especially if you have open some windows it reacts really harder than under 2.4. Different is sometimes only, that it seems to suggest you a better reaction, which is like the new scheduler is itnended to work.
So I'm running 2.6.x at home, but it's not looking to be the fastest kernel on small consumer gear. It looks designed for the big iron in the enterprise or at home. All other suggestions looking to me like propaganda.
Greetings from a GNU/Linux geek!