This idea isn't particularly novel. Anyone with half a brain (e.g. me) has probably thought of it before (well I have anyway). I would assume everyone with a full brain has thought of it before.... So that doesn't leave that many people who haven't thought of it before. The sucessful implementation is novel. However, I wonder now as I always have how successful it'll be. I assume the stamped data portion will still need to have the dye as with the writable layer. The dye will of course be unmarked. The whole metal layer will have to be silver or gold or a combo as with normal CDRs not aluminium. For there 2 reasons, I wonder how well the CDs will work. The dye in the stamped portion could change and this will have negative effects. Assuming they somehow managed to make it so the dye is only needed in the writable portion and the ATIP, things are a bit better. Although I wonder whether the extra reflective metal layer will cause problems.... In any case, it's still going to cost more because of the dye and metal then a normal CD. The process will probably make it cost more then a normal CDR as well. I suspect of course that in large quantities, the replication issue will make them cheaper then burning a lot of normal CDRs and of course, the quality will be somewhat better (although bear in mind what I said before, how much better is circumspect).
Although the difference per CD may seem tiny, the quantities were talking about are big enough to make a large difference in the bottom line. Not to mention given that they will mostly be used by the dumb users who will be too stupid to import the previous session and so will 'lose' the data already on the CD....
Not to mention the issue of lawsuits and bad publisity when someone adds stuff to one of these CD and sells it or leave it around and of course when people lose their precious data contained on the cd...
No it seems like a bad idea to me which is why me and other half and full brainers out there never bothered to try out the idea...
Also on a related issue most of these open journals still have not managed to get the kind of image among normal researchers, students etc necessary. Other then the obvious image of being able to say you had an article published in Nature/whatever, there is also the issue of popularity. Many students etc are far less likely to find your article if it's in one of these open journals. Furthermore, many are less likely to trust the content. And it usually isn't just the student's loss. I things will eventually change, but it's not going to happen overnight. What you must realise is the reason people usually trust the journals is because they can be trusted. This doesn't mean that the open journals can't be trust, just that they don't yet have enough history/background. Having a good article will help but of course, most people will still want to publish their good articles in well regarded and well read journals.
I think you're missing the point. Nintendo must know the only way to combat piracy is to lower prices to make piracy unresonable. However, in the globalised world, it is getting very hard to lower prices at one place, but not lower them at another place. But if you have diff consoles, then it becomes a lot easier...
La Blue Girl is only an exellent intro to hentai if you think hentai is just about tentacles and aliens. However, contrary to what westerners like to believe, this kind of hentai is actually in the minority for Japanese. They're far more interested in standard stuff. The reason it's so popular ie because westerners want it. Not that they are more perverted than Japanese just that they want to look at something else everyone once in a while the same as Japanese. Since their only good source is hentai, they tend to use that. But they rarely peruse other forms of hentai since they prefer what they consider normal porn. So for most westerners, hentai seems to be able tentacles when in reality, that's just a small and infrequent part.
' Ah, you don't want to help us smoke the criminals out of their holes? ' reply: How do we know they are criminals?
'Because was say they are' reply: Yes but do you have any evidence
'Yes but you're not getting it' reply: You mean you just want us to trust you and hand over our people to be put on show trial by you regardless of whether or not their is evidence?
'Yes basically. If you don't were just gonna bomb you anyway. So you'd better follow us' reply: Isn't that illegal?
'No we're Americans so we can do what we want' reply: ?????
or, for your second point (my post has too few chars per line so I had to add a low of bs)
' Fine, we have reasons to believe you hide terrorists en produces nuclear weapons! ' reply: Know we don't come and look for them then. Here's our reply to all your statements so far.
'Ok, we'll take them to copy them then show them to everyone else after removing the useful bits' reply: Er ok.... If you insist.
'Hey you didn't answer this issue which we never raised before. Also this is the same as what you told us last time' reply: That's because you've been sanctioning our country so basically there's nothing new since last time except a lot more people have died.
'No that's not possible. Anyway our spys ooops I mean the weapons inspectors are sure to find something' reply: Ok we'll wait and see'
but later, sure enough, as everyone suspected to happen
'Well our spys found out a lot of useful info about where to attack you and where your good oil supplies are but they didn't find any useful info. Still we want the oil so we'll attack you anyway. Oh wait a minute, I mean you must have weapons so we'll attack you anyway.' reply: What? You searched already. How do you know we must have weapons if you don't know where to find them? You're welcome to search anywhere. Heck you can even kidnap our scientists if you want so you can torture them and try to get them to lie.
'Oh those people are idiots. We wasted a few hundred kilowatts torturing your scienties but still they wouldn't lie. Anyway you must have weapons because we say so. We don't lie. Bye bye' reply: ????
or
' No sir, you can't do that, I'm an American citizen. ' in foreign countries reply: But you broke out laws which you knew clearly when you came here.
' That's not relevant, I'm an American citizen so you're laws don't apply' reply:????
but then, we all know however that they also believe
' It doesn't matter whether you've never been here or not or whether you have any business interest here, we can still sue you and you're going to have to pay.' reply: I refuse!
' Well you'll lose then and get sanctions dumped on you. You do know how powerful US sanctions are right?' reply: Eh?
' It doesn't really matter since you'll lose anyway. You wanna know much these people are paying me' reply: Isn't that illegal?
' No this is the US. Bribery is legal as long it's done before anything happens or after everythings over' reply: ??????????
I think what's worse is the way thay do it.
' Ah, you don't want to help us smoke the criminals out of their holes? '
reply: How do we know they are criminals?
'Because was say they are'
reply: Yes but do you have any evidence
'Yes but you're not getting it'
reply: You mean you just want us to trust you and hand over our people to be put on show trial by you regardless of whether or not their is evidence?
'Yes basically. If you don't were just gonna bomb you anyway'
reply: Isn't that illegal?
'No we're Americans so we can do what we want'
reply: ?????
or
' Fine, we have reasons to believe you hide terrorists en produces nuclear weapons! '
reply: Know we don't come and look for them then. Here's our reply to all your statements so far.
'Ok, we'll take them to copy them then show them to everyone else after removing the useful bits'
reply: Er ok....
'Hey you didn't answer this issue which we never raised before. Also this is the same as what you told us last time'
reply: That's because you've been sanctioning our country so basically there's nothing new since last time except a lot more people have died.
'No that's not possible. Anyway our spys ooops I mean the weapons inspectors are sure to find something'
reply: Ok we'll wait and see'
later
'Well our spys found out a lot of useful info about where to attack you and where your good oil supplies are but they didn't find any useful info. Still we want the oil so we'll attack you anyway. Oh wait a minute, I mean you must have weapons so we'll attack you anyway.'
reply: What? You searched already. How do you know we must have weapons if you don't know where to find them? You're welcome to search anywhere. Heck you can even kidnap our scientists if you want so you can torture them and try to get them to lie.
'Oh those people are idiots. We wasted a few hundred kilowatts torturing your scienties but still they wouldn't lie. Anyway you must have weapons because we say so. We don't lie. Bye bye'
reply: ????
or
' No sir, you can't do that, I'm an American citizen. ' in foreign countries
reply: But you broke out laws which you knew clearly when you came here.
' That's not relevant, I'm an American citizen so you're laws don't apply'
but then
' It doesn't matter whether you've never been here or not or whether you have any business interest here, we can still sue you and you're going to have to pay.'
reply: I refuse.
' Well you'll lose then and get sanctions dumped on you. You do know how powerful US sanctions are right?'
Also http://genomeathome.stanford.edu/ (other then folding@home someone already mentioned)
Anyway, I should add there has been some controversy of the Cure Cancer project. United Devices is a commercial company that plans to sell computing power to people who need it in the future (if they aren't already). They will run these commerical applications on the Cure Cancer clients without requesting permission or informing you (it's in the license agreement). Many people such as me have decided against it for this reason. However, I believe Intel have said they are not allowed to do so on their client so download that instead.
Another thing I have issue with is the fact that there don't seem to be willing to say who get's what info. However, it appears that the university they have a partnership with will get the info and any developements will be patented by them. Of course, as with all scientific discoveries, it will also be published in a journal etc. While I'm not against Uni's being involved in commercial enterprises, I don't agree to them doing so off my personal comp's work when I have no affliation with them. And while I recognise a patent may be necessary to avoid parasitic multinational pharmaceutical companies, they have not given any indication they will be better then any of these companies, eg. in allowing poor countries access. While I don't think free drugs for the rich countries should be allowed, I am strongly against the current pratices of disallowing countries who can never afford the drugs to have any access to them. Therefore, I totally disagree with the way the info gather is being used. Of course, it is up to you to decide whether you fell this is true for you or not.
Sound very ineffiecient, very bad considering their algorythm is already very ineffiecient. Probabyl likely to take 100 times the age of the universe instead of the current 25 times the age of the universe (which is more then the effieicent algorythm time which will be 10).... BTW, I just made those number up but you get the idea
Anyway, I think you're all missing the point. Even if someone does come up with a super quantum computer 10 years from now, who the fuck is going to care if you crack the Xbox key? More importantly, the whole DC project didn't do jack squat really if you use a quantum computer to find it.
I personally think it's a waste of time but to each his own. However, the chance of finding et intel is one thing for which you CANNOT get a reliable probability statistic while you can for the Xbox key.
Perhaps more importantly, SETI has been going for a few years. I doubt anyone would give a fuck if you found out the Xbox key in say 6 years while people would probably still care if you found ET intel in 20 years...
Moore's law will never hold out for that long. The earlier poster seems to think that an atom is infinetly small. It's not. So there is now ay Moore's law can hold out for 3000 years.
Quantum computers, if they can ever be produced may do the trick. But they ain't going to have anything to do with Moore's law
If the original poster didn't know "their client is designed to cache results and collect them at intervals" i.e. that you don't need a perm connection to the internet, that poster should be shot and never allowed a computer ever again
You're a bit confused. The DCMA disallowes any activity which can be used to overcome copy protection. Many people don't agree with it but it's the law. DeCSS is illegal because of this reason. The actual program doesn't violate any intellectual property. However, the program itself can be used to overcome copy protection.
Similarly, the key isn't intellectual property but you can use the key to overcome copy protection measures.
Go read the law before you make dumb comments.
BTW, altho I hate Microsoft, Sony etc, the end results is they choose a business model for consoles (which wasn't start by Microsoft) which involves selling the hardware below cost and makign up for it with games. While I don't agree with this model, IMHO, they should be allowed to use it if they so desire..... Idiots like you shouldn't purchase it if you don't agree with this software model.
You're right but you missing the point. The developers of the program and I bet a lot of a the DC contributers do happen to live in the USA.
I'm personally sick of USAers thinking they own the world or they are the world too but you shouldn't forget the important issues.
Considering that a number of admins were getting into trouble for SETIing and Curing etc without permission, they would have to not only be unprofessional but idiots as well
You're totally right. Even if they didn't feel it was illegal, they might have felt it was immoral or simply a waste of comp time (more worthy causes). Or perhaps they felt it wasn't worth the time because of the fact they will actually find it within a decade is nearly 0%
For those anti-everything group out there, read what we say carefully. It doesn't matter jack squat whether you think it's illegal or immoral or whether you could quote the Supereme Court of the USA of the Pope saying is was legal and moral. Proving it isn't illegal or immoral is irrelevant to this. All where saying is the people who were a part of it felt it was illegal or immoral. If you have a problem with this, take it up with them not us.
Ohoh. Another person who is stuck in 1995. MANY MODERN (and even a lot of not so modern) burners CAN BURN FULLY RAW WITHOUT REGENERATING ANYTHING. The SafeDisc 2.5 copy protection is the only recent copy protection which stumped some rather recent writers because the standard patterns confused the writers somehow enough so that they had problems. However many writers don't have this problem anymore.
I REPEAT, YOU CAN BURN DATA ON THE DISC WITHOUT REGENERATING THE ECC, THE SUBCODES, ETC ETC ETC.
And opensource firmware? Are you nuts?
BTW, whatever you do, you cannot make a 100% exact copy of the original. You can make copies which have the exact same data content but there will still be so many differences. From the colour of the disc to the size of the spiral to the label on top to the precise position of the data on the disc (in geometric terms) to everything. Luckily, most of these differences cannot be detected easily. However, the fact that a disc is a CDR can be detected so this is a very simple copy protection in consoles. In computers, it's more difficult as it's difficult for readers to detect CDRs and more importantly, it's easy to get software to hide this. However, Sony have come up with their new SecuROM which basically uses a screwed up/unstandard spiral. This in itself isn't ingenious. Anyone can think of it. The problem is working out how to detect it with a standard reader and how to make the CDs cheaply. Sony have managed to do both fairly well apparently. The detecting it portion is somewhat problematic because it realise on seek times. This created a very serious problem. You can make a 100% copy of the data but so what? The spiral is still going to be different. And the trouble is this spiral is already in CD media you buy. You don't make your own spiral, it's already there. So basically there isn't much you can do. Sure someone could make this media but if Sony is smart, they will make the spiral different enough each time that you will need a diff media for each game and this will never happen. The only way you can overcome this is to write an image on your disc. Then an image reader on your comp will read the image. This image reader of course can store info about the spiral so the speak and interpret that when the software asks for the seek time.
This won't work because:
1) You're unlikely to get that many people over a freenet project, def you won't be getting however many they got to get 1.5 years of computing time over a few days
2) As the earlier poster pointed out, even with a billion in a few days, it's still going to take centuries and centuries to try even 1/100 of the keys. If you only get the small number of people you get on freenet, it's even worse.
I hate to say this, but you're a bit of an idiot aren't you? Or rather stuck in the past. PSX games including bad sectors can be replicated with most current burners and this has been true for quite a while. You still usually need a MOD chip though because PSes detect CDRs and refuse to run them.
Pirates have been pressing them for years. Also Dreamcast games, although these were GD-Roms not CD-Roms. They might be pressing CD-Roms now that it's been made possible I assume.
They would be selling silvers of Linux although obviously not as much as the games.
However, they don't really care about mod-chip free games. They don't really need them except for the limited overseas market. Only an idiot in HK or any similar country would have a non-modded console. They are usually modded when you buy them. They can usually work out themselves how to pirate the things so that they work with modchips. Since they have a lot more available to them then someone with a burner, they don't have as many problems either. E.g. Making GD-Roms...
5 points:
1) Jon did not crack CSS.
2) It didn't take long when someone seriously worked on it but it took quite a while from when DVDs were released
3) CSS was a very very weak encryption system (since it was developed in 1995 or earlier, this isn't surprising)
4) DeCSS decrypted CSS. It did not encrypted CSS. Encrypting and decrypting are two very diff matters in a assymetric (public and private) key system
5) The only recent case I know of involving cracking DVDs was the Jon case, three further points
a) Jon did no crack CSS (oops I already said that)
b) Jon and his case occured in Norway (Which does not have anything close to the DCMA) NOT IN THE U.S.
c) One unappealed case in the Norway has no bearing whatsoever on anything in the US
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This idea isn't particularly novel. Anyone with half a brain (e.g. me) has probably thought of it before (well I have anyway). I would assume everyone with a full brain has thought of it before.... So that doesn't leave that many people who haven't thought of it before. The sucessful implementation is novel. However, I wonder now as I always have how successful it'll be. I assume the stamped data portion will still need to have the dye as with the writable layer. The dye will of course be unmarked. The whole metal layer will have to be silver or gold or a combo as with normal CDRs not aluminium. For there 2 reasons, I wonder how well the CDs will work. The dye in the stamped portion could change and this will have negative effects. Assuming they somehow managed to make it so the dye is only needed in the writable portion and the ATIP, things are a bit better. Although I wonder whether the extra reflective metal layer will cause problems.... In any case, it's still going to cost more because of the dye and metal then a normal CD. The process will probably make it cost more then a normal CDR as well. I suspect of course that in large quantities, the replication issue will make them cheaper then burning a lot of normal CDRs and of course, the quality will be somewhat better (although bear in mind what I said before, how much better is circumspect). Although the difference per CD may seem tiny, the quantities were talking about are big enough to make a large difference in the bottom line. Not to mention given that they will mostly be used by the dumb users who will be too stupid to import the previous session and so will 'lose' the data already on the CD.... Not to mention the issue of lawsuits and bad publisity when someone adds stuff to one of these CD and sells it or leave it around and of course when people lose their precious data contained on the cd... No it seems like a bad idea to me which is why me and other half and full brainers out there never bothered to try out the idea...
Also on a related issue most of these open journals still have not managed to get the kind of image among normal researchers, students etc necessary. Other then the obvious image of being able to say you had an article published in Nature/whatever, there is also the issue of popularity. Many students etc are far less likely to find your article if it's in one of these open journals. Furthermore, many are less likely to trust the content. And it usually isn't just the student's loss. I things will eventually change, but it's not going to happen overnight. What you must realise is the reason people usually trust the journals is because they can be trusted. This doesn't mean that the open journals can't be trust, just that they don't yet have enough history/background. Having a good article will help but of course, most people will still want to publish their good articles in well regarded and well read journals.
I think you're missing the point. Nintendo must know the only way to combat piracy is to lower prices to make piracy unresonable. However, in the globalised world, it is getting very hard to lower prices at one place, but not lower them at another place. But if you have diff consoles, then it becomes a lot easier...
Hehe... Agreed :-)
There is obviously a lot better things to do with money then being ended by this end but you know humans...
La Blue Girl is only an exellent intro to hentai if you think hentai is just about tentacles and aliens. However, contrary to what westerners like to believe, this kind of hentai is actually in the minority for Japanese. They're far more interested in standard stuff. The reason it's so popular ie because westerners want it. Not that they are more perverted than Japanese just that they want to look at something else everyone once in a while the same as Japanese. Since their only good source is hentai, they tend to use that. But they rarely peruse other forms of hentai since they prefer what they consider normal porn. So for most westerners, hentai seems to be able tentacles when in reality, that's just a small and infrequent part.
I doubt this. Hollywood has a lot more power over people then taking just their money. Their lives for example.....
I think what's worse is the way thay do it.
' Ah, you don't want to help us smoke the criminals out of their holes? ' reply: How do we know they are criminals?
'Because was say they are' reply: Yes but do you have any evidence
'Yes but you're not getting it' reply: You mean you just want us to trust you and hand over our people to be put on show trial by you regardless of whether or not their is evidence?
'Yes basically. If you don't were just gonna bomb you anyway. So you'd better follow us' reply: Isn't that illegal?
'No we're Americans so we can do what we want' reply: ?????
or, for your second point (my post has too few chars per line so I had to add a low of bs)
' Fine, we have reasons to believe you hide terrorists en produces nuclear weapons! ' reply: Know we don't come and look for them then. Here's our reply to all your statements so far.
'Ok, we'll take them to copy them then show them to everyone else after removing the useful bits' reply: Er ok.... If you insist.
'Hey you didn't answer this issue which we never raised before. Also this is the same as what you told us last time' reply: That's because you've been sanctioning our country so basically there's nothing new since last time except a lot more people have died.
'No that's not possible. Anyway our spys ooops I mean the weapons inspectors are sure to find something' reply: Ok we'll wait and see'
but later, sure enough, as everyone suspected to happen
'Well our spys found out a lot of useful info about where to attack you and where your good oil supplies are but they didn't find any useful info. Still we want the oil so we'll attack you anyway. Oh wait a minute, I mean you must have weapons so we'll attack you anyway.' reply: What? You searched already. How do you know we must have weapons if you don't know where to find them? You're welcome to search anywhere. Heck you can even kidnap our scientists if you want so you can torture them and try to get them to lie.
'Oh those people are idiots. We wasted a few hundred kilowatts torturing your scienties but still they wouldn't lie. Anyway you must have weapons because we say so. We don't lie. Bye bye' reply: ????
or
' No sir, you can't do that, I'm an American citizen. ' in foreign countries reply: But you broke out laws which you knew clearly when you came here.
' That's not relevant, I'm an American citizen so you're laws don't apply' reply:????
but then, we all know however that they also believe
' It doesn't matter whether you've never been here or not or whether you have any business interest here, we can still sue you and you're going to have to pay.' reply: I refuse!
' Well you'll lose then and get sanctions dumped on you. You do know how powerful US sanctions are right?' reply: Eh?
' It doesn't really matter since you'll lose anyway. You wanna know much these people are paying me' reply: Isn't that illegal?
' No this is the US. Bribery is legal as long it's done before anything happens or after everythings over' reply: ??????????
I think what's worse is the way thay do it. ' Ah, you don't want to help us smoke the criminals out of their holes? ' reply: How do we know they are criminals? 'Because was say they are' reply: Yes but do you have any evidence 'Yes but you're not getting it' reply: You mean you just want us to trust you and hand over our people to be put on show trial by you regardless of whether or not their is evidence? 'Yes basically. If you don't were just gonna bomb you anyway' reply: Isn't that illegal? 'No we're Americans so we can do what we want' reply: ????? or ' Fine, we have reasons to believe you hide terrorists en produces nuclear weapons! ' reply: Know we don't come and look for them then. Here's our reply to all your statements so far. 'Ok, we'll take them to copy them then show them to everyone else after removing the useful bits' reply: Er ok.... 'Hey you didn't answer this issue which we never raised before. Also this is the same as what you told us last time' reply: That's because you've been sanctioning our country so basically there's nothing new since last time except a lot more people have died. 'No that's not possible. Anyway our spys ooops I mean the weapons inspectors are sure to find something' reply: Ok we'll wait and see' later 'Well our spys found out a lot of useful info about where to attack you and where your good oil supplies are but they didn't find any useful info. Still we want the oil so we'll attack you anyway. Oh wait a minute, I mean you must have weapons so we'll attack you anyway.' reply: What? You searched already. How do you know we must have weapons if you don't know where to find them? You're welcome to search anywhere. Heck you can even kidnap our scientists if you want so you can torture them and try to get them to lie. 'Oh those people are idiots. We wasted a few hundred kilowatts torturing your scienties but still they wouldn't lie. Anyway you must have weapons because we say so. We don't lie. Bye bye' reply: ???? or ' No sir, you can't do that, I'm an American citizen. ' in foreign countries reply: But you broke out laws which you knew clearly when you came here. ' That's not relevant, I'm an American citizen so you're laws don't apply' but then ' It doesn't matter whether you've never been here or not or whether you have any business interest here, we can still sue you and you're going to have to pay.' reply: I refuse. ' Well you'll lose then and get sanctions dumped on you. You do know how powerful US sanctions are right?'
Also http://genomeathome.stanford.edu/ (other then folding@home someone already mentioned) Anyway, I should add there has been some controversy of the Cure Cancer project. United Devices is a commercial company that plans to sell computing power to people who need it in the future (if they aren't already). They will run these commerical applications on the Cure Cancer clients without requesting permission or informing you (it's in the license agreement). Many people such as me have decided against it for this reason. However, I believe Intel have said they are not allowed to do so on their client so download that instead. Another thing I have issue with is the fact that there don't seem to be willing to say who get's what info. However, it appears that the university they have a partnership with will get the info and any developements will be patented by them. Of course, as with all scientific discoveries, it will also be published in a journal etc. While I'm not against Uni's being involved in commercial enterprises, I don't agree to them doing so off my personal comp's work when I have no affliation with them. And while I recognise a patent may be necessary to avoid parasitic multinational pharmaceutical companies, they have not given any indication they will be better then any of these companies, eg. in allowing poor countries access. While I don't think free drugs for the rich countries should be allowed, I am strongly against the current pratices of disallowing countries who can never afford the drugs to have any access to them. Therefore, I totally disagree with the way the info gather is being used. Of course, it is up to you to decide whether you fell this is true for you or not.
Sound very ineffiecient, very bad considering their algorythm is already very ineffiecient. Probabyl likely to take 100 times the age of the universe instead of the current 25 times the age of the universe (which is more then the effieicent algorythm time which will be 10).... BTW, I just made those number up but you get the idea
Anyway, I think you're all missing the point. Even if someone does come up with a super quantum computer 10 years from now, who the fuck is going to care if you crack the Xbox key? More importantly, the whole DC project didn't do jack squat really if you use a quantum computer to find it.
They def would have made it very hard to crack....
I personally think it's a waste of time but to each his own. However, the chance of finding et intel is one thing for which you CANNOT get a reliable probability statistic while you can for the Xbox key. Perhaps more importantly, SETI has been going for a few years. I doubt anyone would give a fuck if you found out the Xbox key in say 6 years while people would probably still care if you found ET intel in 20 years...
Moore's law will never hold out for that long. The earlier poster seems to think that an atom is infinetly small. It's not. So there is now ay Moore's law can hold out for 3000 years. Quantum computers, if they can ever be produced may do the trick. But they ain't going to have anything to do with Moore's law
Xenon and Xeon I understand your 'anger' But X-box and Xbox? Who gives a fuck?
If the original poster didn't know "their client is designed to cache results and collect them at intervals" i.e. that you don't need a perm connection to the internet, that poster should be shot and never allowed a computer ever again
You're a bit confused. The DCMA disallowes any activity which can be used to overcome copy protection. Many people don't agree with it but it's the law. DeCSS is illegal because of this reason. The actual program doesn't violate any intellectual property. However, the program itself can be used to overcome copy protection. Similarly, the key isn't intellectual property but you can use the key to overcome copy protection measures. Go read the law before you make dumb comments. BTW, altho I hate Microsoft, Sony etc, the end results is they choose a business model for consoles (which wasn't start by Microsoft) which involves selling the hardware below cost and makign up for it with games. While I don't agree with this model, IMHO, they should be allowed to use it if they so desire..... Idiots like you shouldn't purchase it if you don't agree with this software model.
You're right but you missing the point. The developers of the program and I bet a lot of a the DC contributers do happen to live in the USA. I'm personally sick of USAers thinking they own the world or they are the world too but you shouldn't forget the important issues.
Considering that a number of admins were getting into trouble for SETIing and Curing etc without permission, they would have to not only be unprofessional but idiots as well
You're totally right. Even if they didn't feel it was illegal, they might have felt it was immoral or simply a waste of comp time (more worthy causes). Or perhaps they felt it wasn't worth the time because of the fact they will actually find it within a decade is nearly 0% For those anti-everything group out there, read what we say carefully. It doesn't matter jack squat whether you think it's illegal or immoral or whether you could quote the Supereme Court of the USA of the Pope saying is was legal and moral. Proving it isn't illegal or immoral is irrelevant to this. All where saying is the people who were a part of it felt it was illegal or immoral. If you have a problem with this, take it up with them not us.
Ohoh. Another person who is stuck in 1995. MANY MODERN (and even a lot of not so modern) burners CAN BURN FULLY RAW WITHOUT REGENERATING ANYTHING. The SafeDisc 2.5 copy protection is the only recent copy protection which stumped some rather recent writers because the standard patterns confused the writers somehow enough so that they had problems. However many writers don't have this problem anymore. I REPEAT, YOU CAN BURN DATA ON THE DISC WITHOUT REGENERATING THE ECC, THE SUBCODES, ETC ETC ETC. And opensource firmware? Are you nuts? BTW, whatever you do, you cannot make a 100% exact copy of the original. You can make copies which have the exact same data content but there will still be so many differences. From the colour of the disc to the size of the spiral to the label on top to the precise position of the data on the disc (in geometric terms) to everything. Luckily, most of these differences cannot be detected easily. However, the fact that a disc is a CDR can be detected so this is a very simple copy protection in consoles. In computers, it's more difficult as it's difficult for readers to detect CDRs and more importantly, it's easy to get software to hide this. However, Sony have come up with their new SecuROM which basically uses a screwed up/unstandard spiral. This in itself isn't ingenious. Anyone can think of it. The problem is working out how to detect it with a standard reader and how to make the CDs cheaply. Sony have managed to do both fairly well apparently. The detecting it portion is somewhat problematic because it realise on seek times. This created a very serious problem. You can make a 100% copy of the data but so what? The spiral is still going to be different. And the trouble is this spiral is already in CD media you buy. You don't make your own spiral, it's already there. So basically there isn't much you can do. Sure someone could make this media but if Sony is smart, they will make the spiral different enough each time that you will need a diff media for each game and this will never happen. The only way you can overcome this is to write an image on your disc. Then an image reader on your comp will read the image. This image reader of course can store info about the spiral so the speak and interpret that when the software asks for the seek time.
Actually a lot of commerical pirates actually copied the whole GD-Rom (made actualy GD-Roms)
This won't work because: 1) You're unlikely to get that many people over a freenet project, def you won't be getting however many they got to get 1.5 years of computing time over a few days 2) As the earlier poster pointed out, even with a billion in a few days, it's still going to take centuries and centuries to try even 1/100 of the keys. If you only get the small number of people you get on freenet, it's even worse.
I hate to say this, but you're a bit of an idiot aren't you? Or rather stuck in the past. PSX games including bad sectors can be replicated with most current burners and this has been true for quite a while. You still usually need a MOD chip though because PSes detect CDRs and refuse to run them. Pirates have been pressing them for years. Also Dreamcast games, although these were GD-Roms not CD-Roms. They might be pressing CD-Roms now that it's been made possible I assume. They would be selling silvers of Linux although obviously not as much as the games. However, they don't really care about mod-chip free games. They don't really need them except for the limited overseas market. Only an idiot in HK or any similar country would have a non-modded console. They are usually modded when you buy them. They can usually work out themselves how to pirate the things so that they work with modchips. Since they have a lot more available to them then someone with a burner, they don't have as many problems either. E.g. Making GD-Roms...
5 points: 1) Jon did not crack CSS. 2) It didn't take long when someone seriously worked on it but it took quite a while from when DVDs were released 3) CSS was a very very weak encryption system (since it was developed in 1995 or earlier, this isn't surprising) 4) DeCSS decrypted CSS. It did not encrypted CSS. Encrypting and decrypting are two very diff matters in a assymetric (public and private) key system 5) The only recent case I know of involving cracking DVDs was the Jon case, three further points a) Jon did no crack CSS (oops I already said that) b) Jon and his case occured in Norway (Which does not have anything close to the DCMA) NOT IN THE U.S. c) One unappealed case in the Norway has no bearing whatsoever on anything in the US