Microsoft have applied for a patent, but who knows ---- in 10 years it may still not be either granted or rejected, so let's continue with Linux + MONO right now and get things moving.
Dont let this legaleeze scare us; we have bigger && better things to be doing than worring about what MS does to people.
Not sure about you all but i never tend to see Linux or any other real operating environment portraid in these sci-fi flicks.
Their cool -- don't get me wrong - but I just wished they'd use more relistic computers. Did you see The Recruit? It's horrible b/c everything is accurate but the computers.
Why spend $$4 making the movie so accurrate but then skimping on the computer details? Some of us know computing!
When linux does all the things Solaris can do. Don't hold your breath.
I don't plan on turning Linux into a slow-ass operating system with no multimedia support and 80MB Java footprints from a "Hello World" program, so I guess you're right that Linux will never do all the things Solaris does.
You work as a pro-bon loywer which means that you essentiallie work for free.
This is similar to those of us who code Linux applications ---- we work for free out of matter of principle and consider it as a way of donating to a charity organization since Linux is good for everyone.
My question is: Is your life effected by your day job (where you get paid) and your "night" job (in which you are the legal counsell for the GNU organization)?
Why are the real life bench-mark specs always just about very theoreticial things rather than real life software? The software, if they *do* decide to test it, is usally either a MCSFT or Novell application or some other Windows-only piece of code in which the interests of us Linux folks is surely unsatisifed.
Therefore I really encourage these producers like AMD to start benchmarking Linux applications for their new procs. For example, run a %top instance and then run a few different programs: for example 1) a C++ app... 2) a JAVA app... 3) and perhaps a compile of the Linux kernel (2.2x series though, not 3.x).
That would indicate a great deal of things including thruput and FSB calculations as well as hard disk access times in conjunction with a fast CPU.
We want to no what we're getting here so don't give us QUAKE III marks, give us Linux benchmarks that reflect real life computer code!
Sorry but i'd rather stay on my own software testing track and have enough $ to buy my own car.
Sure i work for MSFT but at least i can afford to drive a car, take girls out to eat, and go to the casinoes.
Don't mean to be discrimenatorie but it's just how i feel. I'd rather spend time working towards a nice professional job that my kid will look up to than being a grad student (TA) my hole life.
What if I download two isofilename.ISO images in one day? I often do that because Linux allows the freedom to download whatever you want for free. I can try out new operating systemsThats far more than 1 GB of data b/c most CD-R discs hold 650 MB or so.
I'm sick && tired of reading that people say "oh, well the human eye only sees 30 fps, so anything else is over-kill".
That's a bunch of boloney (pardon my language). People want *clairty* and *SMOOTHNESS* in their gaming performance, and although 30 fps delivers clarity from frame to frame, the transitions of frames only achieves a good smoothness above 60 fps.
Most Linux apps aim for >= 60 fps. Go checkout Sourceforge for more details.
OK I just finished the whole thing but its so bad that I can almost guarentee is wasnt even written in Linux.
There are various past participles (not good) and the nature of having a book w// various (5 or 6) diffrent authors really shows here. The tone and overall complexity of the writing varies greatly and its obvious that it's writing isn't the most top-quality stuff I've ever seen here in academia.
We need to diversity our views, but at the same time ensure that it's all written in the same: 1) 3rd person voice... 2) shoot for an 11th grade writing level soasnot to use grammar too complex for those who haven't graduated yet... and finally 3) as I mentioned above, throw in some real world examples, such as Slashdot running on Linux on a 133Mhz box with 70000 pages loaded per day back when it first started ---- now THAT really shows Liunix's power!!1
When I think about the type of medias that *really* have a strong influence on the children of future generations, I imediately think of music. Music has the power to transend generation gaps, skin types, and academic qualifications.
I would very much enjoy to participate in a collaborative musical score of this workin' progress so that those who believe in Linux can generate music that convinces other to believe in Linux as well. I'm imagining a complicated musical score along with tintelateing lyrical gestures ----- we need to capture the top-40 listeners of today with the power of open source music and Linux especially!
Linux is a winner ------- we already know that ---- but we need to shower others the beuty of the current *nix platform.
I read thru the prerelease versions of this manual but was very suprised & disapointed to see a strong bias against many well known and popular case studies that include Linux as the primery variable in the software+hardware ``equation".
I think that with all the amazing examples of Linux powering powerful business to business and Web portal shopping sites, it'd be a simple tale to examinne Linux in the ``real" corporate enviorment as opposed to the very theoritecial and academic feel to the current manual page.
Linux just plain works for all businesses ---- so lets use it to our advantage. Stop getting general and get more specific?!
Personally, I'd rather stick to my guns and go ahead with a Linux jewkbox than to give in to the massive Microsoft histerea surrounding there X-BOX gaming system.
Why would we line the pockets of MSs's corporate bottom dollar when we could simply utilize the foundation of Linux upon traditional X-86 hardware components like soundcards and high-speed motherboards??
The answer is also the question, and the question in this case is LINUX.
I can't help but question why they entireley jipped Linux from this gaming feature.
Theres more to gaming than just Windows-only games like Couterstrike or Quake III.
Many Linux people enjoy the same kind of fun on their platforms. Railroad Tycoon II and Quake II work just fine, thanks.
Linux can do eveything these days, it's not 1991 anymore. Its full fledged and can play games and use Office documents. What are you waiting for to change.
At my current job, nearly all the geeks run Windows 2000. Unfortunately for them, the corporate "watchdog" software, as its called, connects directly to one of their ports and can be used to view the graphick environment and whatever their working on.
Instead of using the corprate Windows image, I simply put Gentoo on the box and they've yet to find out. This way, I ensure that all ports are secure (via %netstat) and retain my privacy.
Sure, he invented C, but is he curently trying to gain any segway into the Lunix market? Even though server market droped 5.9% overall last year, Linux server usage actually went *up* by 14%.
This clearly shows a need for "install and forget" servers on the backend with little to no cost because properitary licencing cuts away to much of one's bottom line.
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Em, the key word hear is ``applies''.
Microsoft have applied for a patent, but who knows ---- in 10 years it may still not be either granted or rejected, so let's continue with Linux + MONO right now and get things moving.
Dont let this legaleeze scare us; we have bigger && better things to be doing than worring about what MS does to people.
What is so specail about .NET.
Linux has had platform independent coding since the days of Java, which were in 1993, two years after Linus' frist post about Linux.
I know this sounds clichayed, but if you can't take the EULA stay out of the propritary kitchen.
Not sure about you all but i never tend to see Linux or any other real operating environment portraid in these sci-fi flicks.
Their cool -- don't get me wrong - but I just wished they'd use more relistic computers. Did you see The Recruit? It's horrible b/c everything is accurate but the computers.
Why spend $$4 making the movie so accurrate but then skimping on the computer details? Some of us know computing!
When linux does all the things Solaris can do. Don't hold your breath.
I don't plan on turning Linux into a slow-ass operating system with no multimedia support and 80MB Java footprints from a "Hello World" program, so I guess you're right that Linux will never do all the things Solaris does.
When will Sun come thru with there plan to phase-out Solaris in favor of Linux [as reported in a previous ./ article]?
You work as a pro-bon loywer which means that you essentiallie work for free.
This is similar to those of us who code Linux applications ---- we work for free out of matter of principle and consider it as a way of donating to a charity organization since Linux is good for everyone.
My question is: Is your life effected by your day job (where you get paid) and your "night" job (in which you are the legal counsell for the GNU organization)?
What made you decide to become strictly GNU rather than a full supporter of Linux?
Bill fucks Intel and then sneaks out in the morning before they wake up. He has yet to make love to AMD though.
Why are the real life bench-mark specs always just about very theoreticial things rather than real life software? The software, if they *do* decide to test it, is usally either a MCSFT or Novell application or some other Windows-only piece of code in which the interests of us Linux folks is surely unsatisifed.
Therefore I really encourage these producers like AMD to start benchmarking Linux applications for their new procs. For example, run a %top instance and then run a few different programs: for example 1) a C++ app... 2) a JAVA app... 3) and perhaps a compile of the Linux kernel (2.2x series though, not 3.x).
That would indicate a great deal of things including thruput and FSB calculations as well as hard disk access times in conjunction with a fast CPU.
We want to no what we're getting here so don't give us QUAKE III marks, give us Linux benchmarks that reflect real life computer code!
Sorry but i'd rather stay on my own software testing track and have enough $ to buy my own car.
Sure i work for MSFT but at least i can afford to drive a car, take girls out to eat, and go to the casinoes.
Don't mean to be discrimenatorie but it's just how i feel. I'd rather spend time working towards a nice professional job that my kid will look up to than being a grad student (TA) my hole life.
Why not use LInux in this situation? Its free Software (as in 'hope') and usually works great.
THink before you act. Think different.
What if I download two isofilename.ISO images in one day? I often do that because Linux allows the freedom to download whatever you want for free. I can try out new operating systemsThats far more than 1 GB of data b/c most CD-R discs hold 650 MB or so.
Of course its important.
I'm sick && tired of reading that people say "oh, well the human eye only sees 30 fps, so anything else is over-kill".
That's a bunch of boloney (pardon my language). People want *clairty* and *SMOOTHNESS* in their gaming performance, and although 30 fps delivers clarity from frame to frame, the transitions of frames only achieves a good smoothness above 60 fps.
Most Linux apps aim for >= 60 fps. Go checkout Sourceforge for more details.
OK I just finished the whole thing but its so bad that I can almost guarentee is wasnt even written in Linux.
There are various past participles (not good) and the nature of having a book w// various (5 or 6) diffrent authors really shows here. The tone and overall complexity of the writing varies greatly and its obvious that it's writing isn't the most top-quality stuff I've ever seen here in academia.
We need to diversity our views, but at the same time ensure that it's all written in the same: 1) 3rd person voice... 2) shoot for an 11th grade writing level soasnot to use grammar too complex for those who haven't graduated yet... and finally 3) as I mentioned above, throw in some real world examples, such as Slashdot running on Linux on a 133Mhz box with 70000 pages loaded per day back when it first started ---- now THAT really shows Liunix's power!!1
When I think about the type of medias that *really* have a strong influence on the children of future generations, I imediately think of music. Music has the power to transend generation gaps, skin types, and academic qualifications.
I would very much enjoy to participate in a collaborative musical score of this workin' progress so that those who believe in Linux can generate music that convinces other to believe in Linux as well. I'm imagining a complicated musical score along with tintelateing lyrical gestures ----- we need to capture the top-40 listeners of today with the power of open source music and Linux especially!
Linux is a winner ------- we already know that ---- but we need to shower others the beuty of the current *nix platform.
I read thru the prerelease versions of this manual but was very suprised & disapointed to see a strong bias against many well known and popular case studies that include Linux as the primery variable in the software+hardware ``equation".
I think that with all the amazing examples of Linux powering powerful business to business and Web portal shopping sites, it'd be a simple tale to examinne Linux in the ``real" corporate enviorment as opposed to the very theoritecial and academic feel to the current manual page.
Linux just plain works for all businesses ---- so lets use it to our advantage. Stop getting general and get more specific?!
Personally, I'd rather stick to my guns and go ahead with a Linux jewkbox than to give in to the massive Microsoft histerea surrounding there X-BOX gaming system.
Why would we line the pockets of MSs's corporate bottom dollar when we could simply utilize the foundation of Linux upon traditional X-86 hardware components like soundcards and high-speed motherboards??
The answer is also the question, and the question in this case is LINUX.
For a $119 system that's small and has a great library fo games ($20-30 each), I cant go wrong with the Cube.
Most PC's cost nearly $2x10^3 for a real gaming strenth system ---- plus the games cost $59 each and that's at a cheap place like circuit city.
I can't help but question why they entireley jipped Linux from this gaming feature.
Theres more to gaming than just Windows-only games like Couterstrike or Quake III.
Many Linux people enjoy the same kind of fun on their platforms. Railroad Tycoon II and Quake II work just fine, thanks.
Linux can do eveything these days, it's not 1991 anymore. Its full fledged and can play games and use Office documents. What are you waiting for to change.
... is that you, Taco?
At my current job, nearly all the geeks run Windows 2000. Unfortunately for them, the corporate "watchdog" software, as its called, connects directly to one of their ports and can be used to view the graphick environment and whatever their working on.
Instead of using the corprate Windows image, I simply put Gentoo on the box and they've yet to find out. This way, I ensure that all ports are secure (via %netstat) and retain my privacy.
Use Linux -- its' a great tool!
As far as I can tell this was posted last July, people.
Datestamp from the page: 07.02.2003 01:20
I think you mean ".cx".
Sure, he invented C, but is he curently trying to gain any segway into the Lunix market? Even though server market droped 5.9% overall last year, Linux server usage actually went *up* by 14%.
This clearly shows a need for "install and forget" servers on the backend with little to no cost because properitary licencing cuts away to much of one's bottom line.