Why in the world did each server cost them anything? They already had 32 servers, and I am sure Linux would have ran on them, so why didn't they save the 96,000 and just use existing hardware..
The old boxen were possibly on lease. When they stopped paying for the software/maintenance, the hardware went back as well.
In addition, they make it sound like "Unix Hardware" is more expernsive than "Linux Hardware",
"Enterprise Hardware" is more expensive than "Desktop Hardware". You have things like redundent power supplies, network cards, memory. Not to mention things like really big I/O busses and serious enterprise stuff that common PC hardware falls down at. This is my main argument against using MS Windows for anything "Enterprise".
Whenever I interview someone for a position I always ask about any "obscure" progamming languages or concepts. Perl, RegExps, Python, Scheme, Lisp, etc... It's not if they know/use the language it's how they answer the question. If they say that they don't know anything about it, that tells me that their toolbox is kinda light. These people are usually MCSEs.
Once, I mentioned regular expressions in a room full of expensive contracters and full time employees and everyone looked at me like I had suddenly grown an extra head. I was shocked and dismayed. I'm surrounded by amatures.
That's exactly what I was thinking when I read this part. The old BeOS was great (in theory)! It allowed everything to be a "document"; email addresses, sound, video, email messages, everything. You could then search for things and build dynamic lists of things like some sort of DBMS. You could also add attributes to a "document" (sorta like AmigaOS).
Combine these two things and you get a really flexable system that is easy to use. For instance you could have an MP3 player that could search for and play all the "Trance" music on your machine very easily.
Now, if I remember correctly isn't MS planning on converting SQL Server to use XML for everything? If so, wouldn't they just SQL Server as the file system? It should be interesting.
I have long said that the current state of the art in file systems (nester folders) sucks. It' hard enough for me to remember where I put stuff, let alone my Mother trying to find that Word document she created last month. As soon as someone comes up with a workable alternative, they will be insanely rich!
For all the borking I hear on this thread about the "badness" of BK, I have to ask if there are any viable GPL'd alternatives to it?
I am in a position to get a VC system in place at work. We have looked at a lot of commercial stuff, but they leave me kinda dry and with a lot less money. The are very proprietory, usually only work on Windows, and don't work & play well with others.
I think I would love to implement CVS, however there are some problems with this solution. Although it is "Free", GPL'd, open, & x-platform, it is also somewhat difficult to setup, use, & maintaine from an enterprise view.
Stop bitching about BK and build something better!!!!
a) Dual-license it so companies who want to nick it for their own purposes and not release modifications have to sign a different agreement with you at some significant cost
The issue here is not with their modifications. If a company uses the software without paying and without modifying it what difference does it make to the programmer?
Dual-license it in the same vein as Ghostscript. Pay for the latest version; older versions are GPL'd. That way, everyone gets a go with the older stuff, and the programmer makes a bundle selling to those that must have the latest/greatest.
Even better would be to change the OS to be inhierintly multi-threaded. BeOS comes to mind as being perfectly suited to this situation. Unfortunately, they are dead.:( Too much too soon I susspect...
I got one to top you. When I was a 3rd shift tech in a local hospital I used to get called to replace keyboards that had pints of BLOOD in them. Talk about YUCK!:)
However, they are attorneys licensed by a State and thus may fall under "a person acting pursuant to a contract with the United States, a State, or a political subdivision of a State."
I am a driver licensed by a State. Does this mean that I may be able to circumvent the DMCA?:)
Well, I am not sold on 802.11b anyway. There was a recent article in InfoWorld that talked about how polluted the 2.4GHz band is. There are things like fusion lighting (so cool!), microwave ovens, cordless phones, not to mention Bluetooth using the same frequency.
Is increasing the range/bandwidth of 802.11b really a good idea? Wouldn't it be better to develop 802.11a (which uses 5.5GHz)?
I was just IM'ing with my Mom and she asked me why all these cookies were poping up all over the place. Well, me being a Mozilla user, had no idea what she was talking about. Now I do. I sure hope she didn't click "Yes" to anything. She's pretty good about that kind of stuff, but this is *really* sneaky!!:(
BTW: She mostly surfs "safe" sites like Yahoo! Are they using it?!?!
It will be years before we know whether non-Java-like languages actually run better on the.NET runtime than on the C# one. Don't believe Microsoft's PR.
Hmmm...given that only "managed*" code will run in the CLR, I don't think that non-Java like languages will ever run in.NET.
*NOTE: I use the term "managed" here to refer to the fact that Microsoft has invented skinable languages. All CLR code must conform to certain rules before it will compile. This includes the single parent & no pointers stuff that keeps C/C++ from being used. This is also the reason that VB.Net is totally new and only looks like traditional VB. Basically, VB.Net is a skinned version of C#.
Why do you think most printer warranties are voided if you use non-oem cartridges?
This is not true. The law says that a printer maker cannot void the warranty of a printer for using non OEM cartridges. They did this specifically to curb "monopolystic" practices.
I have had the same experiences with old ISA NICs. Installing IPCop on a machine with 2 old SCM (driver: scm-ultra) required me to modify conf.lilo and tweak the IRQ setting on one card. Not easy, but workable.
OTOH, yesterday I installed it on a newer machine with 2 identical 3c905 PCI NICs and everything when swimmingly! I love IPCop and can't wait for v0.2!
BTW: The only thing I had an "issue" with was figuring out which NIC was attached to which interface. (GREEN = PCI1 = eth0???) Or, how does it know which card to use for which interface on a cold boot? Does anyone have any clues on this?
Agreed! I was just going to say that Slackware is one of the best Distros for small systems, servers, or desktops -- come to think of it, Slackware rules!:)
You know, I am an *AVID* OSS support and a vocal Microsoft disident, but I'm not sure I would vote the way you think I should. I mean what use do we get out of knowing that Microsoft was lying about being able to unbundle IE -- it's already proven that they are liers! How much proof do we need!
I fear that opening the source will give MS grounds to complain about all those OSS projects that are "stealing" their code (assuming it gets leaked). What kind of trouble can they cause us? Microsoft is *very* crafty, who knows what they will do next!
I think the best course of action is something like what RedHat proposed. Make them pay a *lot* of cash money to the school system. This money would be used to purchase any non-MS hardware/software (i.e. iMacs) and to support competetion.
No solution is perfect, but I'm not sure I want MS source code "in the wild".
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When your friends ask, just tell them "It's a language-neutral Java knock-off..."
The only problem with that statement is that it's not true --.net is NOT language-neutral. It works well with "managed" languages that are very similar to C# (things like Java), but it fails to support a lot of ingrained things in languages that make them unique and usefull (like multiple inheritence in C/C++). Without this language dependent things, they are just so much foder. You might as well develop in C#.
However, I've heard that C# is a pretty good knockoff of Java.:)
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Why in the world did each server cost them anything? They already had 32 servers, and I am sure Linux would have ran on them, so why didn't they save the 96,000 and just use existing hardware..
The old boxen were possibly on lease. When they stopped paying for the software/maintenance, the hardware went back as well.
In addition, they make it sound like "Unix Hardware" is more expernsive than "Linux Hardware",
"Enterprise Hardware" is more expensive than "Desktop Hardware". You have things like redundent power supplies, network cards, memory. Not to mention things like really big I/O busses and serious enterprise stuff that common PC hardware falls down at. This is my main argument against using MS Windows for anything "Enterprise".
According to this article in InfoWorld, Linux cracks are getting just as bad as IIS stuff.
However, it doesn't mention any particular crack or even web server - it's pretty light on details really. Looks like FUD to me.
Whenever I interview someone for a position I always ask about any "obscure" progamming languages or concepts. Perl, RegExps, Python, Scheme, Lisp, etc... It's not if they know/use the language it's how they answer the question. If they say that they don't know anything about it, that tells me that their toolbox is kinda light. These people are usually MCSEs.
Once, I mentioned regular expressions in a room full of expensive contracters and full time employees and everyone looked at me like I had suddenly grown an extra head. I was shocked and dismayed. I'm surrounded by amatures.
That's exactly what I was thinking when I read this part. The old BeOS was great (in theory)! It allowed everything to be a "document"; email addresses, sound, video, email messages, everything. You could then search for things and build dynamic lists of things like some sort of DBMS. You could also add attributes to a "document" (sorta like AmigaOS).
:)
Combine these two things and you get a really flexable system that is easy to use. For instance you could have an MP3 player that could search for and play all the "Trance" music on your machine very easily.
Now, if I remember correctly isn't MS planning on converting SQL Server to use XML for everything? If so, wouldn't they just SQL Server as the file system? It should be interesting.
I have long said that the current state of the art in file systems (nester folders) sucks. It' hard enough for me to remember where I put stuff, let alone my Mother trying to find that Word document she created last month. As soon as someone comes up with a workable alternative, they will be insanely rich!
Here's to being insanely rich!
Wow, this sounds an awfull lot like Lotus Notes. That might be a good thing.
This morning my MessagePad 120 informed me that an eclipse was going to happen today. Just one more thing that my PDA does that yours doesn't. :)
Wow, you should get an Apple Newton MessagePad. It does just this! - and more! I love mine, though it is a bit dated... :(
s/Redhat/Microsoft/g
For all the borking I hear on this thread about the "badness" of BK, I have to ask if there are any viable GPL'd alternatives to it?
I am in a position to get a VC system in place at work. We have looked at a lot of commercial stuff, but they leave me kinda dry and with a lot less money. The are very proprietory, usually only work on Windows, and don't work & play well with others.
I think I would love to implement CVS, however there are some problems with this solution. Although it is "Free", GPL'd, open, & x-platform, it is also somewhat difficult to setup, use, & maintaine from an enterprise view.
Stop bitching about BK and build something better!!!!
Dual-license it in the same vein as Ghostscript. Pay for the latest version; older versions are GPL'd. That way, everyone gets a go with the older stuff, and the programmer makes a bundle selling to those that must have the latest/greatest.
Even better would be to change the OS to be inhierintly multi-threaded. BeOS comes to mind as being perfectly suited to this situation. Unfortunately, they are dead. :( Too much too soon I susspect...
WooHoo! I can already hook up my Apple Newton MessagePad 120 to any 802.11b network with readily available 5v PCMCIA cards!
:)
10 years old and still ahead of the game!!
I got one to top you. When I was a 3rd shift tech in a local hospital I used to get called to replace keyboards that had pints of BLOOD in them. Talk about YUCK! :)
I am a driver licensed by a State. Does this mean that I may be able to circumvent the DMCA?
Well, I am not sold on 802.11b anyway. There was a recent article in InfoWorld that talked about how polluted the 2.4GHz band is. There are things like fusion lighting (so cool!), microwave ovens, cordless phones, not to mention Bluetooth using the same frequency.
Is increasing the range/bandwidth of 802.11b really a good idea? Wouldn't it be better to develop 802.11a (which uses 5.5GHz)?
I was just IM'ing with my Mom and she asked me why all these cookies were poping up all over the place. Well, me being a Mozilla user, had no idea what she was talking about. Now I do. I sure hope she didn't click "Yes" to anything. She's pretty good about that kind of stuff, but this is *really* sneaky!! :(
BTW: She mostly surfs "safe" sites like Yahoo! Are they using it?!?!
Hmmm...given that only "managed*" code will run in the CLR, I don't think that non-Java like languages will ever run in
*NOTE: I use the term "managed" here to refer to the fact that Microsoft has invented skinable languages. All CLR code must conform to certain rules before it will compile. This includes the single parent & no pointers stuff that keeps C/C++ from being used. This is also the reason that VB.Net is totally new and only looks like traditional VB. Basically, VB.Net is a skinned version of C#.
This is not true. The law says that a printer maker cannot void the warranty of a printer for using non OEM cartridges. They did this specifically to curb "monopolystic" practices.
Does the DMCA work in this case? Would it be illegal to decode my SSL transactions for the sake of looking for Kiddy Pr0n?
I have had the same experiences with old ISA NICs. Installing IPCop on a machine with 2 old SCM (driver: scm-ultra) required me to modify conf.lilo and tweak the IRQ setting on one card. Not easy, but workable.
OTOH, yesterday I installed it on a newer machine with 2 identical 3c905 PCI NICs and everything when swimmingly! I love IPCop and can't wait for v0.2!
BTW: The only thing I had an "issue" with was figuring out which NIC was attached to which interface. (GREEN = PCI1 = eth0???) Or, how does it know which card to use for which interface on a cold boot? Does anyone have any clues on this?
Agreed! I was just going to say that Slackware is one of the best Distros for small systems, servers, or desktops -- come to think of it, Slackware rules! :)
You know, I am an *AVID* OSS support and a vocal Microsoft disident, but I'm not sure I would vote the way you think I should. I mean what use do we get out of knowing that Microsoft was lying about being able to unbundle IE -- it's already proven that they are liers! How much proof do we need!
I fear that opening the source will give MS grounds to complain about all those OSS projects that are "stealing" their code (assuming it gets leaked). What kind of trouble can they cause us? Microsoft is *very* crafty, who knows what they will do next!
I think the best course of action is something like what RedHat proposed. Make them pay a *lot* of cash money to the school system. This money would be used to purchase any non-MS hardware/software (i.e. iMacs) and to support competetion.
No solution is perfect, but I'm not sure I want MS source code "in the wild".
Wow, can they get any more vauge than that!?!?
When your friends ask, just tell them "It's a language-neutral Java knock-off..."
.net is NOT language-neutral. It works well with "managed" languages that are very similar to C# (things like Java), but it fails to support a lot of ingrained things in languages that make them unique and usefull (like multiple inheritence in C/C++). Without this language dependent things, they are just so much foder. You might as well develop in C#.
:)
The only problem with that statement is that it's not true --
However, I've heard that C# is a pretty good knockoff of Java.
After seeing #2 it all becomes much more clear.