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Partial Solar Eclipse Tonight

grouchomarxist writes "There is going to be a partial solar eclipse tonight. It will mainly be visible by people in the southwest of the United States. People in Mexico will have the best view, there it will approach a full eclipse." Space.com has a nice page on it too. Enjoy this solar event!

232 comments

  1. why? by mike77 · · Score: 0

    In all honesty, why was this posted? shua it's neat, but what's there to discuss?

    FP?

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    1. Re:why? by imta11 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Because nerds get laid at least as often as solar eclipses, so all you guys call in sick for tomorrow an go get some nanny...

    2. Re:why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YOU SMELL!

      Like thick black swamp-water backed into your toilet on a warm summer day.

    3. Re:why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In all honesty, why was this posted? shua it's neat, but what's there to discuss?

      Wow. You FP'd about the futility of posting on this topic. That is profoundly metaphysically significant. Much troll karma to you.

    4. Re:why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you could post this question.

    5. Re:why? by macdaddy357 · · Score: 1

      Eclipses are harbingers of doom. It's a sign to get your affairs in order. The aliens will be landing or something. Kiss your butts goodbye!

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    6. Re:why? by mike77 · · Score: 1

      thank you, I try to be metaphysical at least once a day :)

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    7. Re:why? by shadowbearer · · Score: 1


      So we can all write in and say how lousy the experience is because
      the friccing clouds aren't going to break up!!!!!!!!!!!

      Ok, I got that off my chest....but it looks pretty grim for seeing
      any of it here.

      SB

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  2. Party like its 2012 by dirvish · · Score: 2, Informative

    There will not be another one until 2012, so you might want to check this one out.

    1. Re:Party like its 2012 by prkr · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's not true. There's a total eclipse in December.
      Perhaps you mean in the US? Also not true, as one will hit Hawaii in Oct 2004.

    2. Re:Party like its 2012 by dirvish · · Score: 1

      You're right. It will be the last one until 2012 for California residents as reported by my local newspaper. Sorry for the misinformation.

    3. Re:Party like its 2012 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Will there be one in 2112? :)

    4. Re:Party like its 2012 by UnhandledException · · Score: 1

      Dude, eclipse season happens every six months. (When the Moon's orbital disk lines up with Earth's.)

    5. Re:Party like its 2012 by El_Nofx · · Score: 2

      Didn't see a damn thing in North Dakota
      Didn't think I would anyway, but had to look

      My eyes kinda hurt though, blue dots where I am typing, hope this is legible

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    6. Re:Party like its 2012 by Notorious+Coward · · Score: 1

      hmm, that wouldn't happen to be anywhere near 12/21/2012 would it?

      some of you know what I'm talking about.

  3. IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    We're all going to die! Run for your lives!


    Oh wait, this is a normal celestial thing... not a sign from the gods. Nevermind.

  4. Don't look directly at it by simetra · · Score: 0

    They say it's BAD, real BAD to look directly at an eclipse. Personally, I think it's an old wives' tale.

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    1. Re:Don't look directly at it by Tink2000 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, doing so can burn your retina so fast you won't know you are blind. Your retina has no pain receptors, so that's why its especially important not to look. In some cases, blindness set in slowly over a period of up to 6 hours after viewing an eclipse. It's better to poke a pinhole in a piece of paper, and then look at the shadow the paper casts on the ground. You should see the eclipse fairly well and safely... provided you are west of the Rockies anyway.

    2. Re:Don't look directly at it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Are you an idiot? Try it and let us know how that works for you.

      Actually my father in-law looked at it as a child and now his glassses are pretty thick due to that fact. No one else in his family needs glasses either

    3. Re:Don't look directly at it by simetra · · Score: 1

      Why yes, I am an idiot. Thanks for asking.

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    4. Re:Don't look directly at it by Negadecimal · · Score: 3, Interesting

      They say it's BAD, real BAD to look directly at an eclipse. Personally, I think it's an old wives' tale.

      It's always bad to look at the sun. But people tend to stare at it more during an eclipse (duh), so that's why it comes up.

      I live in Denver, where the sun is still dark red from all of the smoke moving through town. Should make for an incredible sunset.

    5. Re:Don't look directly at it by digitalunity · · Score: 2

      What if I am looking through my UV protectant 12-shade welding goggles? I'll be lucky to see anything at all. In comparison, the arc from welding is way brighter in the entire spectrum than the sun is. I can get a UV burn from my welding equipment in less than an entire when I'm not wearing a coat.

      So, it's safe, right?

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    6. Re:Don't look directly at it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pinhole? Yuck. I prefer to use binoculars to project an image onto paper. That gives a terrific image of the sun, right down to the sunspots and protuberances.

    7. Re:Don't look directly at it by Tink2000 · · Score: 1

      Yes, that works very well too; I was just giving the lo-tech version. Mostly because I don't have any binoculars :D.

    8. Re:Don't look directly at it by cqnn · · Score: 3, Informative

      It is a bad idea to look directly at the sun without
      protecting your eyes in some fashion.

      It is possible to look with the naked eye if the
      viewers eyes have already had a chance to adjust to
      the brightness of the day, and the exposure is
      kept short. (Something I experienced as a less
      clueful youth)...
      BUT, Even then some minor damage is likely to occur,
      with symptoms that may not show up until later on
      (something I am probably going to learn about as I get older).

      IMO, the likelyhood of damage from looking at an eclipse is
      made greater because the viewers eyes do not have the natural
      feedback of ambient daylight to adjust to before looking in the
      direction of the Sun. Instead they will probably try to adjust
      to the lessening of reflected light in the environment, and
      the effect you will get would be similar to someone turning on a
      very bright light when you are in a darkened room; without
      the benefit of being able to close your eyes.

      Thru google I found:

      http://www.hermit.org/Eclipse/what_observe.shtml

      which appears to be a pretty good sight for advice on properly
      viewing an eclipse. (I do disagree that even looking at a
      total eclipse can be safe, because humans don't have very good
      timing for knowing when to look away again from totality).

      I too am looking forward to seeing this eclipse if I can, but
      please do be careful...

    9. Re:Don't look directly at it by keep_it_simple_stupi · · Score: 2, Informative

      From Space.com as noted in the original article, 14-shade welding goggles are said to be adequate. IANAW so I'm not sure if 12 is darker than 14 or not. Also they mention that even with these shades, you should not look at it for more than 10 seconds anyway...

    10. Re:Don't look directly at it by delta407 · · Score: 1

      Looking at a solar eclipse isn't any more dangerous than looking at the sun any other day, except that people are more likely to keep staring at the eclipse than the sun on any other day. So, in a way, it is an old wives' tale, but there is some kind of merit behind it.

      Curiosity killed the cat, and curiosity can blind a human.

    11. Re:Don't look directly at it by shadowbearer · · Score: 2, Informative

      I have #12s and they seem to work ok. keep_it, you're right
      about not looking too long anyway, welding goggles don't
      filter all the UV that you need filtered, although they do
      take care of most of the visible spectrum, and one can still
      damage one's retina. RETINA DAMAGE IS PERMANENT. I KNOW.

      Note that it also does NOT mean you can use welders goggles of
      any kind to view thru binoculars or small telescopes.

      SB

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    12. Re:Don't look directly at it by digitalunity · · Score: 2

      Crazy. The corneal burn on a humans eyes from looking at a welders arc at close range can last 6-8 hours for even a fraction of a second of exposure. If you looked at it for more than 4 or 5 seconds, I'd imagine you'd have lifelong damage.

      Yes, a 14 is quite a bit darker than a 12. Must be pretty bright sun; cuz with my welding goggles on outdoors I can barely see around me.

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    13. Re:Don't look directly at it by shadowbearer · · Score: 1


      Very informative.

      I have a comment tho:

      You said: "(something I am probably going to learn about as I get older)."

      I can guarantee you that. Back in the early 80s I spent a lot of time
      observing sunspots with varying degrees of filtering, projection
      and other diddling around. Before I could afford to buy good filters -
      they were very expensive at the time - I damaged several small portions
      of my retinas. I did not really realize this until many years later. The
      effect is not really noticeable any more unless I am concentrating on
      seeing something very small (like a star's pinpoint); the images get
      smeared out. Several optom's I've gone to think the damage may be
      fixable in a few decades as tech gets better....

      I can't stress it enough to /.er's, make sure your eyes are protected!

      (after all, then you would have to have /. READ to you ;-)

      SB

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    14. Re:Don't look directly at it by Kymermosst · · Score: 2

      Umm... just look at it through at T-15 arc welding filter... sheesh.

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    15. Re:Don't look directly at it by shadowbearer · · Score: 1

      Amazing, isn't it? Shows how much energy the sun puts out ;-0

      Aren't welders filters logarithmic (scale of ten)? between ratings? I
      can't remember.

      As to being outside with them, remember most of the light you are looking
      at is reflected light, from 1-30% of the light falling on the surfaces,
      and most of the UV (which does the real damage) is absorbed rather
      than reflected. When you look at the sun, most of the visible light is
      filtered, but as far as I know welders goggles don't filter much UV.

      SB

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    16. Re:Don't look directly at it by stand · · Score: 1
      It is possible to look with the naked eye if the viewers eyes have already had a chance to adjust to the brightness of the day

      Good luck trying to find anyone in this forum that qualifies.

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    17. Re:Don't look directly at it by digitalunity · · Score: 2

      They must filter UV because that is what causes sunburns, which is primarily what also causes damage to the eyes. I can weld for 8 hours straight without any eye sore at all. If I do it without wearing my leather welding gloves or coat for even an hour, my arms will be red, warm, and burning by the next day. Just goes to show how much UV welding arcs put otu.

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    18. Re:Don't look directly at it by shadowbearer · · Score: 1

      Good point. I don't really know enough about the characteristics of welders eq, but I suspect they have filter some UV. Whether it is the same UV ranges as what sunburn results from, I don't know. Anyone?
      The weldburn isn't as nasty as the Flying Hot Chunks Burn tho. Try a good Aloa skin lotion with no alcohol (alcohol aggravates the burn).

      " If I do it without wearing my leather welding gloves or coat for even an hour"

      Remember that a leather welding glove filters *everything* ;-) ( ok, not neutrinos and some other things, go away Trolls)

      Another thing a boss/teacher told me once was that the filters in welding goggles were usually low quality - ie there were many 'microholes' where the filtering agent hadn't spread to - and I wonder just how much that contributes to eyesight problems of welders.

      I wish I had your endurance for welding ;-)

      SB

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    19. Re:Don't look directly at it by togtog · · Score: 1

      As a child I looked directly at the sun, everyday. No protection. That was at age 8.

      At age 14 I couldn't see stars straight ahead.

      But I didn't go blind. I always thought everyone was fscking nuts about this thing...

      Now at age 23 my vision is getting strangely blurry after starring at a blue LED keychain light.

      I tend to think the LED did more damage then the sun, could be, have those things been tested?

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    20. Re:Don't look directly at it by acceleriter · · Score: 2

      Yup. You look at seven, eight or more total eclipses, you might go blind!

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  5. A solar eclipse at night? by Xiver · · Score: 1

    That is pretty impressive.

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    1. Re:A solar eclipse at night? by EFGearman · · Score: 2

      It's happening close to sundown. Unfortunately, I'm in the southeast US, and won't get to see any of it.

      EGearman

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    2. Re:A solar eclipse at night? by coljac · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, like most nights, the earth will eclipse the the sun tonight. The earth's shadow will sweep across the surface of the planet, covering an area of about half the earth's surface at a time.

      This eclipse is visible from all parts of the earth starting around nightfall. Depending on your lattitude the eclipse will last up to 17 hours.

      By the way, it's safe to look at this eclipse all you like, with no filters at all.

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    3. Re:A solar eclipse at night? by dadragon · · Score: 1

      This eclipse is visible from all parts of the earth starting around nightfall. Depending on your lattitude the eclipse will last up to 17 hours.

      17 hours?!? Where's that? The south pole? Where I am now night lasts about 5 hours (10:30pm - 3:30am)

      BTW, when does the eclipse [the one where the MOON blocks light] start in CST? I want to look at it and go blind ;)

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    4. Re:A solar eclipse at night? by STeiNBJa · · Score: 1

      The earth's own shadow will block out our sun, now this is something to see. btw, i thought this was a LUNAR eclipse

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    5. Re:A solar eclipse at night? by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 1

      Depending on your lattitude the eclipse will last up to 17 hours.

      I can think of a couple of latitudes where this eclipse lasts for six months.

    6. Re:A solar eclipse at night? by bleckywelcky · · Score: 1


      You might be able to catch a small chunk missing from the sun very near to sundown. Nothing that great, but still cool anyhow.

    7. Re:A solar eclipse at night? by bleckywelcky · · Score: 1


      Lunar Eclipse - When the Moon passes into the Earth's shadow that is caused by the sun.

      Solar Eclipse - When the Earth passes into the Moon's shadow that is caused by the sun.

    8. Re:A solar eclipse at night? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can think of a couple of latitudes where this eclipse lasts for six months.

      BS. Name one. This is June 10th. You won't find a point on earth that night lasts for even a full 24 hours, let alone 6 month.

    9. Re:A solar eclipse at night? by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 1

      BS. Name one. This is June 10th. You won't find a point on earth that night lasts for even a full 24 hours, let alone 6 month.

      The South Pole. The sun set around March 21st and will rise around September 21st. The North Pole has the opposite schedule. It's presently fall heading into winter in the southern hemisphere. Despite appearances, the Earth isn't actually flat.

    10. Re:A solar eclipse at night? by coljac · · Score: 2

      Nighttime - when you pass into into the earth's shadow that is caused by the sun.

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    11. Re:A solar eclipse at night? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, on the south pole it will last till the next (northern sphere) mid-winter...

    12. Re:A solar eclipse at night? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, north of the polar cirlce the sun is up 24 hours/day much of the summer (like Kiruna, Sweden where I (almost) live). So an eclipse at night would be fully possible...

  6. Thank G-D! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Finally, an end to the source of global warming!

  7. Funny how... by apoKalypse · · Score: 0

    this story was already posted to the science section here

  8. BS by George+Michael · · Score: 3, Funny

    I, for one, don't believe that science can predict when such an event will occur. And certainly not hours in advance.

    1. Re:BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Next thing you know, they'll be predicting things like sunrise and sunset... and the tides! Hahaha!

    2. Re:BS by mjackson14609 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I, for one, don't believe that science can predict when such an event will occur. And certainly not hours in advance.

      Get with the program. The official Bush Administration position has changed to "OK, science can predict eclipses, but there's no point in doing anything about them."
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    3. Re:BS by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 1

      I, for one, don't believe that science can predict when such an event will occur. And certainly not hours in advance.

      Hell, they can't even predict the weather.

    4. Re:BS by truthdetector2004 · · Score: 1

      Hell, they can't even predict the weather.

      But they can sure predict global warming!

      Yeah, right.

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  9. The Mayan Calendar ends in 2012 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Surely this 2012 eclipse will signify to coming apocalypse and end of the world? There's no other possible reason they wouldn't have plotted their calendar out further.

    1. Re:The Mayan Calendar ends in 2012 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The hell with that: my calendar runs out on June 30th!!! Everybody panic!!!!!

      Oh, sorry...I just turned the page...but it's all going to end on August 31st!!!! PANIC!

  10. night != solar eclipe by Ksop · · Score: 0, Redundant

    WTF? How the hell do you get a solar eclipse at night?

    1. Re:night != solar eclipe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because the earth eclipses the sun, DUH!

      I believe that it is nature's solution to global warming too, but that is just me.

    2. Re:night != solar eclipe by grytpype · · Score: 2

      It's night where you are, Einstein, but somewhere else it isn't night, and the people who happen to be there will see the eclipse.

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    3. Re:night != solar eclipe by macdaddy357 · · Score: 1

      Isn't there one every night? It gets dark for about 12 hours.

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    4. Re:night != solar eclipe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean that when it's night in America, it's not night everywhere?

      Inconcievable!

    5. Re:night != solar eclipe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For you USians... Much of the planet (ie, far from the equator) gets sunlight well into the evening during summer. Even in large southern Canadian cities like Vancouver, the sun will be just setting, still with a bright sky approaching 10pm. Farther north, you can easily have bright sunlight until after midnite, and approaching 24/7 at high latitutdes around the soltice in a couple of weeks.

  11. And the rest of us? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    What about us Western Europeans? When do WE get a solar eclipse? Why does America have to MONOPOLISE everything?! Why can't Americans learn to share their damn astronomic phenomena instead of greedily keeping them for themselves?! This ABSOLUTELY TYPICAL OF DUBYAHS FACIST REGIME, monopolise the solar eclipses, soon you'll have a monopoly on 10 km radius asteroid strikes and nearby supernovas as well!

    1. Re:And the rest of us? by Phroggy · · Score: 2

      Why does America have to MONOPOLISE everything?!

      That's "monopolize"; if you lived over here in the great US of A instead of your silly backwards Europe, you'd know how to spell it right.

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    2. Re:And the rest of us? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good question, especially when they write this:

      It will mainly be visible by people in the southwest of the United States. People in Mexico will have the best view

      How can it be mainly visible by people in the southwest of the United States when people in Mexico have the best view? Mexico is not in the southwest of the United States. It's a separate country. In fact, I learned recently that Canada is also a separate country, and not the 51st state as most Americans believe.

    3. Re:And the rest of us? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Moron. Europe got the last total solar eclipse in 1999. It was a very big deal.

    4. Re:And the rest of us? by Goose+In+Orbit · · Score: 1

      Europe got the last total solar eclipse in 1999. It was a very big deal.
      Except it was cloudy that day in the UK and I had to watch the fscking thing from Turkey (courtesy MSNBC)
  12. will it look like this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i hope the eclipse looks like this...

    then it will be worth watching :-/

  13. Golden opportunity by L.+VeGas · · Score: 5, Funny

    I love stuff like this.

    to my three-year-old:
    "You better be good boy, or Daddy's going to destroy the sun!"

    1. Re:Golden opportunity by stinky+wizzleteats · · Score: 1

      to my three-year-old: "You better be good boy, or Daddy's going to destroy the sun!"

      Yeah, this is all fun and games until he runs screaming down the hallway at 3 am screaming for you to put the sun back.

  14. Re:It's going to be hard to see by George+Michael · · Score: 1

    Ah, too true. Somebody mod this up for accurate nit-picking.

  15. Of course it's eclipsed. by Subcarrier · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Partial Solar Eclipse Tonight.

    The Earth is in the way! (Doh!)

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    1. Re:Of course it's eclipsed. by SirTwitchALot · · Score: 1

      Actually, it's the moon that's in the way.

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  16. the ring of fire by F2F · · Score: 5, Interesting

    actually some people will have a chance to see the amazing annular eclipse which is much more interesting.

    i saw the full eclipse last year (in bulgaria) and will definitely have my smoked glass for tonight's (50% only, where i'm at) eclipse!

    1. Re:the ring of fire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the ONLY goatse post I've seen that should be (+1 Funny) at the least!

    2. Re:the ring of fire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, better do better than smoked glass. That stuff doesn't block all the EM radiation that's coming at you (like infrared). You better believe that it'll damage your eyes...Galileo was nearly blind in his later years from looking at the sun through smoked glass and the like.

      Go get some genuine mylar eclipse viewers. Be safe, not cheap!

    3. Re:the ring of fire by tswinzig · · Score: 4, Informative

      i saw the full eclipse last year (in bulgaria) and will definitely have my smoked glass for tonight's

      You might want to re-think that smoked glass. According to NASA, "Unsafe filters include color film, some non-silver black and white film, medical x-ray films with images on them, smoked glass, photographic neutral density filters and polarizing filters."

      Of course if my response doesn't reach you in time, you won't be able to read it anyway.

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    4. Re:the ring of fire by F2F · · Score: 1

      i'm just calling it 'smoked glass'. though it's an official sun-viewer optical piece that came with my roommate's telescope :)

    5. Re:the ring of fire by Peter+Trepan · · Score: 1

      ...smoked glass...

      The health risks associated with smoked glass are too numerous to list. Besides, don't you find the eclipse interesting enough without smoking anything?

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    6. Re:the ring of fire by copec · · Score: 1

      You ever seen an eclipse.........ON WEED?!?

    7. Re:the ring of fire by acarey · · Score: 1

      Binoculars aren't mentioned anywhere, so I assume they're safe... :)

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    8. Re:the ring of fire by ChrisMG999 · · Score: 1

      I find that the magnetic disc inside of a floppy works very nicely to view the eclipse (Using a pair of sunglasses in addition, of course)

  17. North East? by TheTomcat · · Score: 2

    Will I be able to see this in the North East (Montreal)? The article doesn't say, but I'm hoping to see a partial.

    What time would it be at?

    S

    1. Re:North East? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can see it in British Columbia to some extent.

    2. Re:North East? by Licinius · · Score: 3, Informative

      Check here for some more information. It's got a "graph" which shows where it will be visible, and how much of the eclipse you'll see for your particular location.

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    3. Re:North East? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea, the Northeast of MEXICO! Jelous? It is a real country.

    4. Re:North East? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. British Columbia and Quebec are very close to each other... I mean, I could DRIVE from BC to Quebec in like, what? 2 days?

    5. Re:North East? by dadragon · · Score: 1

      What time would it be at?

      20:33-20:45 local time. Don't look directly at it.

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    6. Re:North East? by amstrad · · Score: 2, Informative

      Sky and Telescope always have the best data for these kinds of questions.

      They have a diagram of the ground track and a timetable giving cities and times of the event.

  18. Oh please! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    America does not exist, there was a thread prooving it a few weeks ago on that Chinese "discovery" of America long after the first tales were spread.

    This is just another story for school children, like Atlantis, Martians and anything by Noam Chomsky.

    Now, go out to the Atlantic coast, look west and tell us what you see. If this mythical "America" were there it would be right in front of you, yes?

  19. For once by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For once, The Sun does shine on Mexico.

  20. Today/tonight? by clinko · · Score: 4, Funny



    Tonight there's a Solar Eclipse?

    The world really is coming to an end.

    1. Re:Today/tonight? by Peyna · · Score: 2

      It will be tonight for me, the earth will just be in my LOS.

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    2. Re:Today/tonight? by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

      Don't ask, I am a real living image of ROTFL entry in the Internet encylopedia here :D

    3. Re:Today/tonight? by peddrenth · · Score: 2

      There's a solar eclipse every night

      ... by the Earth

  21. not a full solar.. by Xzzy · · Score: 5, Informative
    The moon is at it's furthest point in it's orbit around earth. The effect this has is that the moon is incapable of fully blocking the sun, this is because the moon's orbit is slightly elliptic.

    A rather spectacular image from a 1992 annular eclipse (the name given to this type of eclipse) can be found at APOD today.

    1. Re:not a full solar.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OMG, it's the Quake III Arena symbol!

  22. Remember by Wrexen · · Score: 1, Funny
    1. Re:Remember by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's impressive how fast you found that link.

  23. Well Hot Damn by Al-Pacino4d2 · · Score: 1

    I can't wait to see it... oh wait, i forgot you're not supposed to look at it.. oh well... i guess the fun is knowing it is happening even though you aren't looking? -- Look Mom the Sun it's disappe-AAAAHHH my eyes!!!

  24. They're not that great. by Sabalon · · Score: 5, Funny

    I looked at my first solar eclipse years ago through my telescope. It was bright and spetacular - but since then, non of them have looked nearly as good as that first one :)

    1. Re:They're not that great. by dgp · · Score: 1

      that was a little too subtle. i was going to say 'you're blind, thats why!' but that was your joke to begin with :)

    2. Re:They're not that great. by LeBain · · Score: 1

      We had a warning sign in the optics lab where I used to work. It read, "Do not look into laser with remaining eye."

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  25. Alright kiddies by lingqi · · Score: 2, Informative

    follow the link here for more info and a nice map of what you expect to see the eclipse time is ~6PM PST, which mean the sun is FAR from set -- at the bay area, anyway, the sun does not set till ~9 and don't stare at it! 2 good ways to look at the eclipse 1) bioculars / telescope reflected on paper 2) get a bucket of water, tint the water (ink, whatever) and look at the reflection (used to do this in low-tech China)

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    1. Re:Alright kiddies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) bioculars / telescope reflected on paper

      Please do NOT do this unless you want to ruin your binoculars or telescope. Either will be focusing the infra-red onto the mirrors and/or lenses inside. You can destroy your binoculars or telescope even with the sun fairly low in the sky.

      DON'T DO THIS!

  26. LOL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I love it too! My son is getting immune now, he is 18 and suspects that I am not all powerful, so I invoke G-d. I usually use the Passover story, etc.

  27. View Safely! by CodeWheeney · · Score: 1

    Of course, never look at the sun, even when partially blocked by the moon. To look safely, poke a pin hole in a piece of paper, and let the sunlight come through that paper and focus the image on a second piece of paper.

    I've also had luck looking through a floppy disk, but I wouldn't recommend it. You can use welding glass, though.

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    1. Re:View Safely! by CodeWheeney · · Score: 1

      You should focus the light that comes through the hole in the paper, of course.

      I'm an idiot.

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    2. Re:View Safely! by desertfool · · Score: 1

      I've actually had success looking at an esclipse through a CD. I was in the Netherlands during an eclipse in 1999 and the CD worked great. Of course, people look at you funny if you are standing on the street with a CD held up against your face.....

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    3. Re:View Safely! by PunchMonkey · · Score: 1

      I've actually had success looking at an esclipse through a CD

      I've had success looking at an eclipse with my naked eyes. Last thing I ever saw though...good thing /. is braille browser friendly.

      Seriously though, would a CD actually be effective? I have my doubts....

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    4. Re:View Safely! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't understand the principle of pinhole viewing. No focussing required. Assuming it's a very small hole (which is fine for such a bright source image).

    5. Re:View Safely! by desertfool · · Score: 1

      I can still see. And it was kind of like looking through Mylar at a light bulb. It was a data CD, if it was painted I doubt it would have worked at all.

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    6. Re:View Safely! by nytes · · Score: 1

      You should focus the light that comes through the hole in the paper, of course.

      The use of a magnifying glass in front of your first piece of paper (the one with the pin hole in it) will properly focus the light for best viewing.

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    7. Re:View Safely! by jeffphil · · Score: 1

      Someone at the table next to us at the Oasis in Austin was smart enough to bring welding goggles. You could see everything perfectly.

  28. For a Better View... by RAzaRazor · · Score: 1

    I bet I can get a really good look at the eclipse using my telescope!! Those warnings about not looking at the sun printed on the body of the scope? Oh, that's just for kids!!

  29. Some hours by cheezycrust · · Score: 3, Informative
    This story appeared earlier on Slashdot (but only in the Science section). If you want to know the hours, you can read the NASA article, or be lazy, and select one of these links:
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  30. This is THE ONE ECLIPSE of truth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's probably now that we will spot the comet coming which was previously shielded by the sun....

    quick all run to www.sollog.com and buy the books of truth moueha

  31. The best eclipse web site is... by stand · · Score: 2, Informative

    I always post this, but the best eclipse web site is at http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/eclipse.html

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    1. Re:The best eclipse web site is... by Hassan79 · · Score: 1

      Do you know where I can look when the next eclipse will be at my place? I searched on this site, but I didn't find anything.

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  32. NICE FP TRY BUT YOUR COMMENT IS STUPID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    .. a Subject Line Troll fan

  33. Eclipses and Burning out your Retina by Tidan · · Score: 1

    Every time you hear about an eclipse, they tell you not to look directly at the sun. I know it can burn out your retina and make you blind, but so will staring at the sun on a day without the eclipse.
    Does anyone know if looking at the sun during an eclipse is actually worse for your eyes than looking at the sun at any other time? I would guess that the intensity of the sunlight would have to be greater during an eclipse to cause more retinal damage in a shorter period of time. Anyone know why this is the case?

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    1. Re:Eclipses and Burning out your Retina by Kredal · · Score: 2

      Nah, there's no greater risk, if you were prone to staring at the sun all the time.. the problem is that the media and everyone (even Slashdot!) tells you that the sun and moon are going to be doing something worth watching on this particular day, and so a MUCH larger amount of people are going to be looking at the sun. It's not any more dangerous, but more people will be taking the risk.

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    2. Re:Eclipses and Burning out your Retina by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More idiots just stare at the sun during an eclipse. The amount of radiation hitting earth is only slightly less, still enough to fuck with your eyes.

    3. Re:Eclipses and Burning out your Retina by stand · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is funny. I got a degree in astronomy and did a few years of volunteer work at the Adler Planetarium in Chicago. I'm always amazed at how often this question is asked. I remember as a kid being deathly afraid to look up during an eclipse thinking that there were some evil death rays that only came out during an eclipse that would turn me into a zombie or something [I think that was a bad movie I saw once...]

      The answer is no, the sun is no worse for your eyes during an eclipse, it's just that most people (Galileo excluded) aren't stupid enough to look at the sun when the moon's not partially in front of it so there's no need to warn them on a daily basis.

      obligitory warning: Oh and by the way...please don't try to prove me wrong (or right) by looking at the sun today or any other day. It ain't good for your eyes.

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      Four fifths of all our troubles in this life would disappear if we would just sit down and keep still. -C. Coolidge
    4. Re:Eclipses and Burning out your Retina by Xaoswolf · · Score: 1

      The reason it's worse is because, well for one, more people are likely to just sit and stare at it for the time it takes the eclipse to occour. The other reason is that your pupils dialate when the sun is eclipsed, which lets more radiation in, plus, the ring of the sun still visible around the moon is still bright enough to damage the retinia. I could be wrong, but that's what I remember from 6th grade when we all went out to watch the eclipse.

    5. Re:Eclipses and Burning out your Retina by JHromadka · · Score: 2

      Since this eclipse is at dusk, won't the damage be less since the sun isn't as bright?

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    6. Re:Eclipses and Burning out your Retina by jcsehak · · Score: 2

      Okay, so when you look at the sun on a normal day, and I mean when you glance up at it and look away as quickly as possible, it leaves an afterimage that lasts for a short while, but no permanent damage is done, right? Wouldn't it stand to reason that in an eclipse, since the moon is covering up most of the sun, you would be able to look at it longer without doing any damage?

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    7. Re:Eclipses and Burning out your Retina by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      idid it am now hard to ssee - tha paint thepainthe pane oh god

    8. Re:Eclipses and Burning out your Retina by CheshireCatCO · · Score: 2

      Maybe somewhat longer. But complicating matters is that your pupils may dialate to compensate for the lower light levels, letting in more light again. I don't know the numbers, so I couldn't give details.

    9. Re:Eclipses and Burning out your Retina by stand · · Score: 1

      That seems plausible, but you'd never get any "expert" to admit this was true. You have to understand that even a small percentage of the light from the sun is brighter than all but the brightest terrestrial light sources you are likely to look directly into.

      Plus, you can never underestimate the intelligence of the dumbest member of your audience, especially when (with the Internet) that audience can be global. I suppose it's possible that there's a conspiracy among astronomers to perpetuate the idea that solar eclipse sunlight is more dangerous because it makes it even more likely that people won't look at the sun and hurt their eyes, thereby reducing their ability to appreciate astronomy (hee hee).

      Ok, so maybe that's a little paranoid.

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    10. Re:Eclipses and Burning out your Retina by stand · · Score: 1

      This is actually a good point. To be pedantic though, I should say that the sun is still as bright as it always is at dusk, it is just that at dusk, the sun's light has to pass through more atmosphere to reach your eyes. So more of the light is scattered away making the sun look less bright.

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    11. Re:Eclipses and Burning out your Retina by mcfiddish · · Score: 2

      Even though less light gets into your eye during an eclipse, the surface brightness (brightness/unit area) of the sun that isn't covered up is the same as always. So your pupil dilates to let more light in, but that light is still bright enough to do permanent damage.

  34. Enjoy this event, courtesy of slashdot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Enjoy this event, courtesy of slashdot!

  35. Pi by ajlitt · · Score: 1

    "Personal note: When I was little my mother told me not to stare into the sun, so when I was six I did." - Max Cohen

  36. For the love of God, people... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...this parent post is kidding and should be moderated as "Funny", or you're as blind as the poster pretends to be!

  37. It is *bad* by hughk · · Score: 2
    I was lucky enough to see a total eclipse. I had been warned others hadn't got the message. I saw it through mylar and I think I didn't do any damage.

    The pupil dilates as the light dies. This means the first beads of sunlight as the eclipse ends shining around the moon comes straight through a wide-open eye tracking across the retina like a magnifying glass onto paper. It is easy to look directly at those first beads for too long (a glance won't hurt though).

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  38. And who says time travel is impossible by codeguy007 · · Score: 1

    The Yahoo article discusses how the eclipse starts on Tuesday, June 11 and ends on Monday, June 10. Interesting, eh?

    Of Course this is because the moon travels east across the sun and over the international dateline but still.

  39. Don't look at that page without smoked glass! by BlowCat · · Score: 1

    It can make you blind.

  40. Caution from our fearless leaders by orpheus2k · · Score: 1

    Remember, the Sun is our solar system's largest "dirty bomb." While this radiological event has yet to be tied to the Abu Sayyaf or Qaeda groups, be warned that the FBI considers this an act of solar terrorism, President Bush has yet to say if this has been "securitized" for our protection, and the INS reserves the right to fingerprint and mock you.

  41. Simulated Time Lapse Eclipse by scott1853 · · Score: 3, Funny

    O(* ) O

    Incredible isn't it.

    1. Re:Simulated Time Lapse Eclipse by blue_zero · · Score: 1

      hehehehehe....

      hmmm someone mod parent up as somewhat funny....

      at least gave me a grin..

      heh heh..

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  42. Tonight? How Late? by geoffreya · · Score: 0

    Technically speaking, the earth eclipses the sun every night...

  43. Videotaping the Eclipse by daviddennis · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm in the Los Angeles area and own a Canon XL1 MiniDV camcorder with a 16:1 zoom. I was thinking of going up to a nice high point in my area and videotaping the eclipse, using a portable battery and a 9" Sony TV to compose and focus the image. I would then use my camera's manual exposure controls to taste based on the image on the Sony.

    If I just go out and start shooting the sun, is this going to damage my camcorder if I use its built-in neutral density filter?

    I will be synchronizing my camera's internal clock to Pacific Bell time - will that be good enough to match the time predictions?

    I don't think I will have time to buy a filter, but viewing the eclipse through the adjacent monitor should work.

    Am I nuts to do this in view of the possibility of blowing out the CCDs of a very expensive camcorder, or should I not worry about it?

    Many thanks for any ideas.

    D

    1. Re:Videotaping the Eclipse by nickyj · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's not going to look nearly as amazing when it's video taped. You really need a lot of special lens and filters to capture it in decent quality.

      It's only 10% where I am. and I have a mountain range to try to look over to see it.

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    2. Re:Videotaping the Eclipse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can hook my digital camera up to a TV and was wondering the same thing. Will it damage my camera to point it directly at the sun for several minutes?? I'm in a really bad location for this one, but I figured I might try.

      The camera has a short movie feature, but I figured I'd just hit record on the VCR and capture everything.

    3. Re:Videotaping the Eclipse by bigjocker · · Score: 3, Informative

      You absolutely need a filter. If you don't use one no matter how you set up yor camcorder, you are goung to get a CCD "paté". Find any filter, you dont necesarily need to buy one, but if you love your cam i recommend you get anything.

      Even an adapted filter from another model will do the trick, but don't go the un-filtered ...

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    4. Re:Videotaping the Eclipse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You absolutely need a filter

      Gotcha, I understand 100%.

      If you don't use one no matter how you set up yor camcorder, you are goung to get a CCD "paté".

      WTF does that mean?

    5. Re:Videotaping the Eclipse by daviddennis · · Score: 2

      What kind of filter would you recommend? Anything I could get at a local camera store right before the event?

      Obviously it's too late to mail order anything, or even to go to the huge camera store in Hollywood where I'd normally go :-(.

      D

    6. Re:Videotaping the Eclipse by Laser_47 · · Score: 1

      1. Use a filter - next week you'll have a elipse shaped dull spot on your kid's birthday party.
      2. Don't expect to see too much. The sun is very far away, and will appear smaller than you think on the screen.

      You'd be better off filming the result from a pinhole camera or a pair binoculars focused onto paper.

    7. Re:Videotaping the Eclipse by Micah · · Score: 2

      well, I've inadvertently gotten the sun on my videotapes before, and it hasn't seemed to damage it.

      More interestingly, I actually DID take a video of the February 26, 1998 eclipse from Venezuela. It turned out far better than any of our still shots! I got a pretty good zoom in on the sun during totality (I didn't point it directly at the sun during partial phases, so it may not apply to you).

      In fact, here are a couple shots taken from my video with a Snappy:
      The Diamond Ring Effect and the elipsed sun with planets (Venus and Jupiter IIRC).

  44. Apple Newton comes through again! by Corrado · · Score: 3, Funny

    This morning my MessagePad 120 informed me that an eclipse was going to happen today. Just one more thing that my PDA does that yours doesn't. :)

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  45. Or the high tech solution... by Wraithlyn · · Score: 3, Funny

    I plan on trying to capture it with my digital camera. Hopefully the LED screen doesn't have enough power to blind me :) (Or, if it does, I'm going to sue the FUCK out of Sony ;)

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    1. Re:Or the high tech solution... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Hopefully the LED screen doesn't have enough power to blind me :) (Or, if it does, I'm going to sue the FUCK out of Sony ;)

      No, but the sun is probably bright enough to burn out your camera quicker than you can say "dOh"

      (remember, your digital camera doesn't have any pain receptors, but your wallet does!)

  46. Where I live by obnoximoron · · Score: 1

    we have a total solar eclipse *every* 24 hours. What happens is that the other half of the earth completely blocks our view of the sun.

  47. Proper testing procedure... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    I would stare at the eclipse for about 2 minutes before using my camcorder to tape the event. If your eyes feel fine after the 2 minute test period, the senstive CCD lenses in your camcorder should be safe to tape the eclipse. Make sure you don't have any filters in front of your eyes or you won't be able to properly gauge the possible harm that might come to your camcorder. Those things are expensive, so testing with your eyes is the best shot to protect that investment.

    So are you going to edit the movie with iMovie?

    1. Re:Proper testing procedure... by daviddennis · · Score: 2

      I have to assume this is a joke, but I suppose it answers my question.

      You're close; I edit my video productions with Final Cut Pro. Same platform, more sophisticated software.

      D

  48. This is an Annular... by Boulder+Geek · · Score: 2
    Keep in mind that it is quite dangerous to look at the Sun without adequate filtering or a projection system of some sort, look at S&T for some hints. You can look at a Total Eclipse without filters during totality. Nothing you can do can prepare for that sight.


    This particular eclipse is an Annular, where the Moon's shadow is somewhat smaller than the Sun's disk. From the right location, it appears as a bright ring around a dark Moon. I've not seen one, but I've heard some Umbraphiles say "I wouldn't cross the street for an Annular Eclipse."

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    1. Re:This is an Annular... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Is that the same as an eclipse of Uranus?

      I get a ring around my moon when I sit on the shitter too long...

  49. ISS/Shuttle Viewing by lazarus · · Score: 1
    Yes I know, not related except that these events are close together and if you can't see the eclipse you might want to check this out:

    If you live in Ontario tomorrow night (2002-06-11) at 21:57 the ISS with docked shuttle will show up in the NorthWest near the horizon and make it's way across the sky in 5 minutes to set in the SouthEast. It will show up near Venus which will also be in the NorthWest. Apparently the shuttle docked with the ISS makes for quite a bright celestial object (twice as luminous as the ISS normally is). According to the editor of Sky News who was speaking about this (and the eclipse) on CBC this afternoon it will be unmistakable (not only due to its movement but also its brightness).

    A good tool for tracking the ISS can be found at liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov for those who are interested.

    OBEclipse: The moon is in space -- so is the ISS :-)

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  50. is there a place by Jacer · · Score: 1

    that will tell me if i'll be able to see it at all? i live in northern iowa, i figure i'm screwed

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    1. Re:is there a place by bplipschitz · · Score: 1

      Yup--check out www.nasa.gov, and go the story about the eclipse ["weird sunset" is the name, IIRC]. There is a table that covers some cities that might fall in the same general time zone as Iowa. But, being originally from Wisconsin, I know that most of Iowa is in the Twilight Zone. . .

  51. I think I saw a putty tat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I did
    I did
    I saw a putty tat

    and a banner add for MicroSloth

    why is that?

  52. Are you sure those sunglasses are good? by teamhasnoi · · Score: 1
    "Yup, the guy that sold them to me said they were the very best. And they only cost FIVE DOLLARS!"

    1. Re:Are you sure those sunglasses are good? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING.

    2. Re:Are you sure those sunglasses are good? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that WAS THE POINT!

    3. Re:Are you sure those sunglasses are good? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YOU ARE CORRECT, SIR!

  53. U.S. Pacific Northwest by Kymermosst · · Score: 2

    According to my newspaper, it's going to be a partial eclipse with 54% coverage of the solar surface. That's enough to make it "mainly" viewable here in Eugene, OR.

    I imagine it will be interesting, even in Seattle. (Provided it isn't raining)

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  54. Freakin Rain by STeiNBJa · · Score: 1

    Why does it always rain here during astronomical events. stupid rain. stupid clouds. stupid weather. who plans these things anyways? :-)

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  55. Pacific Northwest by Hispet · · Score: 1

    We have our viewers ready in Spokane Washington but it looks like this cloud cover isn't going to go away. *pout* Oh well.. perhaps in another 15 years the total eclipse might be visible.

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  56. The eclipse is interesting... by SoCalChris · · Score: 1

    But will we be able to see Uranus?

  57. Oh, come on! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everything? Everything?!? What about bad dental work? Body Odor? Unshaven pit areas? You Euros are doing just fine in the "monopolisation" department.

    You even had a lock on soccer hooliganism, but then you had to go and fuck that up this weekend by letting the Russians start a riot!

    Jeez!

  58. How long... by Vegan+Pagan · · Score: 2

    ...until the MPAA blocks free eclipses too?

  59. Or... by errxn · · Score: 1

    You could just forget about going up to the nice high point, stay down in LA, and let the smog be your filter. That oughta work.

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  60. How about a spoiler alert next time? by anticypher · · Score: 2

    Thanx alot chris d. First you tell everyone the lone gunmen died, spoiling it for those on the west coast. Now you tell everyone about an eclipse that hasn't yet happened on the west coast for a few more hours. You could have let them discover the sudden disappearance of the sun with total surprise, rather than spoil it for them.

    You should follow the fine example set by Hemos when he waited until closing time to announce the Festival of Inappropriate Technology this past weekend in London. That was how /. used to handle time sensitive stories in the good ol' days (of last weekend) :-)

    the AC
    We've had a simulated solar eclipse for the last week. Fscking rain

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  61. Maybe no seeing it here SW of Denver by EQ · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I can look directly at the sun - big red ball, not all that bright. Who needs smoked glass when you have smoked air?

    80,000+ acre wildfire out of control. Smoke up to 30,000 feet spreading across Colorado to Nebraska to South Dakota (visible on satellite). Completely out of control, nothing we can do but hope for a weather change. They pulled the crews from in front of it, calling it suicidal to fight this thing from in front. Humidities as low as 5%. Winds 25-35 gusting to 45 fanning the fire and keeping hte slurry bombers and tankers from fighting it effectively. Problem is fuel: timber here has less moisture (10%) than kiln dried lumber due to drought.

    Peronal note: I worked at the Lockheed rocket engine plant (boosters). And it is in the way of this fire at Waterton Canyon facility. Thats a bad mix: 200 ft wall of flames advancing at 5-10 MPH and tons of rocket fuel in bunkers nearby. Bad combo.

    40,000 people evacuated as of 4PM mountain time. Rained ash (like snow flurries) here at my house.

    :-/

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  62. Northbound 101 by Nf1nk · · Score: 1

    Your screwed by not being able to see it and I am screwed by driving straight into it. on the Northbound 101 in California (the freeway actualy goes west on the part that I drive). with congestion as normal I should get to see the whole event from the comfort of my SUVs seat.
    (not that I have a choice)

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  63. safe viewing filters by Vess+V. · · Score: 1

    If you stack 2 or 3 cd's (with no printed labels that cover their surface) together, they produce a very dim and comforable-to-view solar disc. Although, I wonder if they block out other harmful wavelengths of light. For that reason, I have ownly taken very very brief glimpses of the sun using that method. Anyone know if it's good?

    1. Re:safe viewing filters by WetCat · · Score: 1

      Actually a good filter can be 3.5' diskette if you look to sun through its magnetic disk (opening disk's door).

    2. Re:safe viewing filters by Vess+V. · · Score: 1

      Too bright for me.

    3. Re:safe viewing filters by WetCat · · Score: 1

      5' diskette worked better. 3.5 is way too bright.

  64. CCD burnout by Wraithlyn · · Score: 2
    "the sun is probably bright enough to burn out your camera"

    Um, do you know that for a fact or are you just making an unfounded guess?

    I'm no optics expert, but I've never read any sort of warning not to point digicams at intense light.

    Some quick hunting on google:
    • 'CCDs ... don't suffer from "burnout" or "trailing" in bright light.' (Link)
    • 'A solar eclipse has huge contrast, and digital photos suffer from the "bloom" effect of the CCD, where super-bright pixels bleed like crazy into their neighbours.' (Link)
    The second in particular seems to indicate there's nothing harmful about using a digicam to capture an eclipse, you just won't get a good image. I'm pretty handy with Photoshop though, so I still intend to try :)
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    1. Re:CCD burnout by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My digital camcorder specifically says in the manual that I should not point the camera at the sun for extended periods of time.

      Make of that what you will.

  65. Eclipse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The best way to view the eclipse is to look at pictures of it on your monitor.

    HOWEVER: DO NOT look directly at your monitor!!! Because you can easily burn out your retinals.

    Thank you for your time and good luck.

  66. Interesting Data on the Solar Eclipse... by Starcub · · Score: 1

    Of the two types of solar eclipses, this is an annular eclipse. This means that the vertex of the umbra never reaches the Earth. The umbra is the cone region extending from the Moon towards the Earth that is the Moon's shadow. So even if we were to be standing at the center point in the path of the shadow, the Moon will not completely block out the Sun in an annular eclipse. Thus, a total eclipse occurs when the umbra at least reaches the Earth.

    The frequency of observation of total vs. annular eclipses can be arrived at by examining the following facts about the shadow of the Moon:

    Moon's distance from Earth (miles): Max = 252710, Min = 221460, Mean = 238900
    Length of Umbra (miles): Max = 236700, Min = 226800, Mean = 231100

    It's pretty interesting actually. This means that the Earth, Moon, and Sun are positioned and sized in such a way as to guarantee totality a little less than half the time a solar eclipse occurs.

  67. Right.... by Cave+Dweller · · Score: 1

    There is going to be a partial solar eclipse tonight.

    Tonight? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

  68. hex by Hex+Rules · · Score: 1

    I've been seing some decimal on slashdot, which geeks hate. So I've been posting this reply. So, why are you using decimal here? Do you understand number bases? I think you don't, otherwise you would use hexadecimal. Repost in hexadecimal--you may use "0x" as a prefix or "h" as a suffix. Perhaps you can learn at this since it is possible you don't understand. Or perhaps you are too stupid to ever understand hexadecimal and will be stuck with decimal.

  69. Low-tech approach by spaceyhackerlady · · Score: 1

    It's in progress now here in Vancouver. There are some clouds around, but not enough to spoil the experience.

    My low-tech equipment is a pinhole camera made from a cardboard box. It has a piece of white paper taped inside as a viewing screen, with the "lens" a pinhole poked in a piece of 120 film backing paper.

    It works fine, and I observed 1st contact at 0003 UTC, 1703 PDT.

    ...laura

  70. Antistatic bag by coscarart · · Score: 1

    Is it okay If I few the solar eclipse through several layers of an antistatic bag?

  71. Non Sequitor by Grimmtooth · · Score: 1

    Solar eclipse tonight? Well, I suppose it's always night somewhere but I get a grin from it anyway... :-)

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  72. Eclipses and kids by hacksoncode · · Score: 1
    I had a great time viewing the eclipse with my kids (4 and 6 years old).

    It's a really great opportunity to expose them to a bit of science, a bit of engineering, and bit of safety training, and a bit of "look, the world is interesting and you don't need a huge pile of money to see that".

    I started out with a card with a hole punched in it. That didn't work, so we used a smaller hole. Then we played around with it a bit and discovered that the bigger hole worked if you moved the card farther away from the projection surface.

    They got the biggest kick out of my making little crescent shaped sun shadows using my hand as a shadow puppet, though...

    1. Re:Eclipses and kids by Hispet · · Score: 1

      I agree! It's always fun sharing new things with my little sponges. I was a bit upset to find out that the school didn't even mention it to the kids.. they had no idea there even was an eclipse. I'm very thankful that the skies here cleared up enough for all of us to view it. :)

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  73. Eclipse of the moon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An eclipse of the moon occurs when the Sun passes between the Earth and the Moon.

    Who says the schools in the US have a poor science curriculum!

    1. Re:Eclipse of the moon by ChrisMG999 · · Score: 1

      The sun can pass between the Earth and the Moon? That's something I'd be interested in seeing, provided the heat and radiation didn't kill me.

  74. I got engaged during the eclipse by Dop · · Score: 1

    It almost didn't happen because of the cloud cover we had over the midwest, but right at the peak of the eclipse it poked out from under a cloud on the horizon. Then I proposed.

  75. A few pics from San Jose by Tugrik · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For any who're curious to see: I pulled out the binocs, a white sheet of paper and the camera to snap off a few frames of the eclipse as seen from the southern part of San Jose, CA.

    The pictures can be found here.

  76. Damn. by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

    I was in Central PA. The sun sunk below the mountains before it even started. I used a welders shield. I was a bit disappointed as Philly was predicted at 0%, Pittsburgh was at 22% and I'm in the middle so I was think maybe 10%. Damn mountains.

  77. Nice warning. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey, look, this ball will hit you in 2 seconds! Why didn't you turn away? Maybe it's cuz you didn't have enough time? Hmm. Let's sit on that for a while. A solar eclipse will occur TODAY. But, here is a revolutionary idea. Would it not be nice it the article said that the solar eclipse will occur tomorror, or is a few days? Hmm. And of course, wouldn't it be nice if the article was published a few days ago? Hmm. That way, people could actually do some planning to see the event. Wouldn't that be fucking nice, if you fucking morons thought yo post it a few days ago? Hmm. Hmm...

    1. Re:Nice warning. by ChrisMG999 · · Score: 1

      Dude, chill out. I'm sure if you were into this kind of thing you would have known before. They were just letting those of us who would be interested in walking out of their house for a few mins to see it do so, not to inform you so you can throw an eclipse party.

  78. Saw the eclipse, wonder if anyone got sunset pics by ziegast · · Score: 1

    I was on an airline descending into San Diego during the eclipse. The ground had an eerie feeling from above, though the sun was bright as usual. Using the "pinpoint" trick, I could see the eclipsed-shaped sun in its shadow.

    When we got on the ground a parking agent was kind enough to lend me their translucent viewer. Sure enough, 40% of the sun was "eaten" by the moon. It's always fun to look at.

    Being close, but not close enough to an eclipse at sunset, I wonder if anyone in Phoenix, Tuscon, or Mexico got any cool sunset views or photos during their sunset. Tonight I saw the full sun set an hour after the eclipse and wondered how cool it would be to see an eclipsed sun setting. Anyone? Put your pics online and give us a URL for some surefire moderator points.

    -ez

  79. Plot of photovoltaic system during eclipse by Phil+Karn · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I logged the power generated by my photovoltaic system during today's eclipse. Since I'm in San Diego where the eclipse reached 80%, the dip is quite noticeable.

    The URL is http://people.qualcomm.com/karn/pv/daylife.html

  80. Our God will Eat Your Moon! by commodoresloat · · Score: 2

    Legend has it that after Columbus wore out his welcome with the natives in Jamaica, they stopped bringing his crew food, and even jailed a couple of them for improprieties with native girls. Knowing a lunar eclipse was coming, Columbus threatened that his God would destroy the village if they did not release the men and bring his crew food. The natives laughed at this, but Columbus said that his god would show his power by eating their moon that night. After about an hour of the eclipse, Columbus announced that God would return the moon to the sky if the natives promised to bring them food and release the men. Of course, he got what he asked for.

    1. Re:Our God will Eat Your Moon! by Mark+of+THE+CITY · · Score: 1

      Look here for Mark Twain's use-a-solar-eclipse-to-get-power story from "A Conneticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court."

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  81. In totally related news... by Phouk · · Score: 1

    ... if you are a Java developer, definitely check out the eclipse, it's better than looking at the sun.

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  82. Yet another... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    denial of service attack by the moon

  83. Re:the ring of fire (Better Link) by Gleef · · Score: 2

    That is the link to the Astronomy Picture of the day, which has since changed.

    The ring of fire can be seen here

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