I totally agree with you that we should not rob children of their childhood, even though the whole concept of a "childhood" is new.
The problem is that our personalities are shaped during this childhood period. If we are only subjected to harmless (in general opinion, not necessarily in my) things, in this case sites, we are generally not equipped to cope with the not-so-harmless (again in general opinion) ones when we reach that magic age - be it 16, 18, 21 or whatever.
Another problem in your argument is that kids ask questions of all kinds - some of which fall into the not-harmless category. Should we just ignore these? I think children can cope with these questions, and for their own good they should be allowed to.
This is only because slashdot jumped the gun, again...
The xiph guys have been forced to take out the servers to be able to finish the release properly. You _were_ actually able to get the real 1.0 files for a while, if you knew where to look for them. This is what Monty had to say about the whole affair, a couple of minutes ago on #vorbis: "So that we can actually get to our own servers, xiph.org and vorbis.com have both been taken down so that we can finish the release in peace. Or at all."
I agree with you. And so does the IT department of my homecity (Turku, Finland). They are considering moving from MS Office to Openoffice.org, and have therefore made this report. Check it out.
Among other things it shows that the average computer user can handle Openoffice just as well as MS Office. The same seems to apply to the OS level (Windows vs. Linux) as well. All it takes is some training in the new program.
Apparently MS is only blocking OS's that have IE available (Win32 / MacOS)...
Not correct. I couldn't get in with Konqueror. I got a page which suggested "upgrading" my browser to IE for Windows or Mac. If they explain how, I would like to try...=)
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You really should look up your facts before you write. The countries of the European Union do not have inferior telecom structures compared to the US. If you don't believe me, please check out our mobile phone system for example... As for the rest of the world I don't know (and won't pretend to), but at least in the EU broadband access to the internet is something anyone not living in the absolute middle-of-nowhere has access to.
Don't glorify America before you at least check that you're correct!
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Could you please elaborate? I can't understand why you connect Christianity with insane commercialism, they actually have nothing what-so-ever in common.
> It's no big deal for them, their customers will
> eat the tax. Yay! I'm europeon! I get to be
> taxed cause I might do something illegal. Wee.
It has been pointed out here before, but I will nonetheless stress this once more: the tax is not paid so that you're allowed to make illegal copies, it's paid to allow you to do legal copies of media you have bought. That is something that isn't allowed in the U.S. and people complain about it all the time here on slashdot. I for one will happily pay the tax (which is about $6 for a new cd-recorder) if I am then legally allowed to make copies of my own cds and cd-roms.
>Our government in America might not be able to count votes, > and it might work best when it's grid locked, but at > least we'll never see crap like this.
No, instead you have crap like the DeCSS trial and DMCA and UCITA and software patents and.... I don't think I have to make the list longer, you get the point. Don't assume that everything you don't understand is bad. This particular tax is actually good, as it allows people to make backups of their own cds and cdroms. As far as I'm concerned I'll rather pay that tax than have a DMCA to cope with.
I'm really surprised that people are so obsessed with his ideas about taxation (which I by the way wholeheartedly agree with) and pay almost no attention to his ideas about restructuring the whole political system. The idea of having just TWO parties, especially when they share the same view on almost every single point, strikes me as wholly and utterly non-democratic (as in democracy, not the Democrats). And this system is supposed to be the most democratic in the world? An example for all other countries to follow? No way!
I think that Nader has very good ideas on a lot of issues. You should support him, not the current system with two candidates saying the same things. Why do you think that people don't vote...
Your argument is plain flawed. Where does it say that a person who is against censorship must be for piracy? Those two have nothing to do with each other. Secondly, there's no need for software piracy with all the great opensource stuff that's out there.
IMO, if spam is to be considered free speach the spammers should not use fake adresses, stop relaying the spam through mail servers without the sysadmin's approval, stop sending the mails to people who do not want it and so on. We all now how likely this is to happen. Seriously, who would want to have dozens of spam mails a day, all advertising nude celebrities and other equally interesting things? No, away with the spam!
The chair you saw was probably exactly the same, as these chairs in fact are made by a Finnish company. These have been available for quite some time already. It seems as if they lag a bit behind over there in the US...
You guys should really not rule out this chair before you get to try it. The City of Helsinki Library Kirjakaapeli has one which is free for anyone to use. It's amazingly comfortable to sit in, everything is neatly placed where it should. The only problem is that you should install you CD-ROM in the up-most bay, otherwise it will be a pain (not in the ass but in a region close by =) to insert and eject CD's. If you ever come to Helsinki, visit Kirjakaapeli and try it out!
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And this prejudiced comment gets modded "Insightful"? I would have understood "funny", even though I don't think it is, but absolutely not insightful.
Starving? Pray to your diety! Makes perfect sense!
Shouldn't that be "Pray to your dietist!" instead...?
I totally agree with you that we should not rob children of their childhood, even though the whole concept of a "childhood" is new.
The problem is that our personalities are shaped during this childhood period. If we are only subjected to harmless (in general opinion, not necessarily in my) things, in this case sites, we are generally not equipped to cope with the not-so-harmless (again in general opinion) ones when we reach that magic age - be it 16, 18, 21 or whatever.
Another problem in your argument is that kids ask questions of all kinds - some of which fall into the not-harmless category. Should we just ignore these? I think children can cope with these questions, and for their own good they should be allowed to.
This is only because slashdot jumped the gun, again...
The xiph guys have been forced to take out the servers to be able to finish the release properly. You _were_ actually able to get the real 1.0 files for a while, if you knew where to look for them. This is what Monty had to say about the whole affair, a couple of minutes ago on #vorbis:
"So that we can actually get to our own servers, xiph.org and vorbis.com have both been taken down so that we can finish the release in peace. Or at all."
I agree with you. And so does the IT department of my homecity (Turku, Finland). They are considering moving from MS Office to Openoffice.org, and have therefore made this report. Check it out.
Among other things it shows that the average computer user can handle Openoffice just as well as MS Office. The same seems to apply to the OS level (Windows vs. Linux) as well. All it takes is some training in the new program.
Funny comment, that. I almost laughed.
No, you're right. Then again, I'm downloading from Finland so wouldn't have expected it to be any faster... =)
Apparently MS is only blocking OS's that have IE available (Win32 / MacOS)...
Not correct. I couldn't get in with Konqueror. I got a page which suggested "upgrading" my browser to IE for Windows or Mac. If they explain how, I would like to try...=)
You really should look up your facts before you write. The countries of the European Union do not have inferior telecom structures compared to the US. If you don't believe me, please check out our mobile phone system for example... As for the rest of the world I don't know (and won't pretend to), but at least in the EU broadband access to the internet is something anyone not living in the absolute middle-of-nowhere has access to.
Don't glorify America before you at least check that you're correct!
Could you please elaborate? I can't understand why you connect Christianity with insane commercialism, they actually have nothing what-so-ever in common.
> eat the tax. Yay! I'm europeon! I get to be
> taxed cause I might do something illegal. Wee.
It has been pointed out here before, but I will nonetheless stress this once more: the tax is not paid so that you're allowed to make illegal copies, it's paid to allow you to do legal copies of media you have bought. That is something that isn't allowed in the U.S. and people complain about it all the time here on slashdot. I for one will happily pay the tax (which is about $6 for a new cd-recorder) if I am then legally allowed to make copies of my own cds and cd-roms.
>Our government in America might not be able to count votes,
> and it might work best when it's grid locked, but at
> least we'll never see crap like this.
No, instead you have crap like the DeCSS trial and DMCA and UCITA and software patents and.... I don't think I have to make the list longer, you get the point. Don't assume that everything you don't understand is bad. This particular tax is actually good, as it allows people to make backups of their own cds and cdroms. As far as I'm concerned I'll rather pay that tax than have a DMCA to cope with.
I'm really surprised that people are so obsessed with his ideas about taxation (which I by the way wholeheartedly agree with) and pay almost no attention to his ideas about restructuring the whole political system. The idea of having just TWO parties, especially when they share the same view on almost every single point, strikes me as wholly and utterly non-democratic (as in democracy, not the Democrats). And this system is supposed to be the most democratic in the world? An example for all other countries to follow? No way!
I think that Nader has very good ideas on a lot of issues. You should support him, not the current system with two candidates saying the same things. Why do you think that people don't vote...
IMO, if spam is to be considered free speach the spammers should not use fake adresses, stop relaying the spam through mail servers without the sysadmin's approval, stop sending the mails to people who do not want it and so on. We all now how likely this is to happen. Seriously, who would want to have dozens of spam mails a day, all advertising nude celebrities and other equally interesting things? No, away with the spam!
The chair you saw was probably exactly the same, as these chairs in fact are made by a Finnish company. These have been available for quite some time already. It seems as if they lag a bit behind over there in the US...
You guys should really not rule out this chair before you get to try it. The City of Helsinki Library Kirjakaapeli has one which is free for anyone to use. It's amazingly comfortable to sit in, everything is neatly placed where it should. The only problem is that you should install you CD-ROM in the up-most bay, otherwise it will be a pain (not in the ass but in a region close by =) to insert and eject CD's. If you ever come to Helsinki, visit Kirjakaapeli and try it out!