I'm not sure that disrespect is the issue. "Costs them more money" would be the appropriate variable to consider. In the long run it costs them more money if people hate them enough not to even bother pirating -- they lose their market presence (whether they cashed in on it or not.)
Not to mention that you can't uninstall gator by normal means. The %ProgramFiles%\Common Files\CMEII\ directory is hard to find if you're joe user, and oh, is that on purpose that the registry keys for gator.com don't disappear after I uninstall? Oh that's right, according to the Terms of service, those are 'enhancement technologies' and they don't necessarily get removed during the uninstall.. Interestingly enough, this information is listed under the 'Right to Remove' section in the Terms Huh!?!
Gator is (1) spyware. Gator (2) is spyware. Gator is (3) spyware. Gator (4) is spyware. Gator is (5)spyware. Gator (6) is spyware. Gator is (7) spyware. (8)Gator is spyware. (9 or so) Gator is spyware. Gator (10) is spyware. Gator is spyware (11). Gator (12) is spyware. (13) Gator is spyware. Gator (14) is spyware. (15) Gator is spyware. Any corrections?
that only works if it's ok to reboot those machines at night. Some of our machines are processing 24/7, and we have to wait until they can afford to reboot. And if some patches are waiting in queue, then the new ones don't get deployed until after the existing (waiting) patches are applied. SUS isn't meant for machines that need to do real processing, or at least it doesn't work well for them. (Then again, neither does windows, but I'm only one man in a 1400 man company)
The problem with SUS: if some fixes are queued on the machine, then the new ones don't get sent until after the other ones are installed. This sucks for the machines that we have running tests 24/7. They will be waiting for weeks to get patches sometimes, even though we've approved them for distribution via SUS.
I agree, and I can't stand citrix but we're forced to run it for dialup users. Otherwise they'd be too slow to do anything useful. I been to citrix training, and tried many different configurations, and people just complain all the time. Not to mention that the IMA service needs a babysitter. I hate citrix, and I'm in charge of it's maintanence here. Sucks big.
seems to me like there is lots of running water. (Rivers, Oceans) Doesn't lend itself to batteries, but it sounds like a good way to generate electricity, ala hydro-electric plants. People seem to be overlooking the fact that we have infrastructure like Dams that can probably be fitted with such a filter that would allow for the generation of this kind of electricity. Wars? Jesus, too many people addicted to CNN here.
Well, I wasn't saying that I liked the idea that it set a precedent, just that it does. The problem with the 'Do-Not-Call List' according to the courts wasn't that people's rights were being violated, it was that some people were exempt from obeying the list, like politicians and charities. That's only enforcing the rights of certain organizations and not those of others. This is what I meant in my previous comment. Though I agree with you and don't believe that the phone call is a method of 'free expression' but the courts seem to disagree. Go figure.
I'm tolerant to their faces and on the phone, but I'll be damned the day I can't blow off steam with my coworkers about silly user stuff. Maybe not so much damned as insane. It's a stressful job, and laughing at people who look at computers as magic boxes that 'are never willing to cooperate' (...Pc load letter?!?...) is how I keep my cool.
One thing I'm particularly fond of is when I get users telling me that their friend, who 'knows all about computers and stuff' told them to do something that either violates a security policy we have, or is just completely retarded. I have a HUGE tolerance for ignorance, and I appreciate that it pays my bills.
Some people just hate network guys because we control a large part of the way they do their job -- the computers.
One final thought: After 8 years of tech support and lately security administration, I've definately learned how to politely tell a user (or a manager who thinks his position in his own respective department somehow humbles me) to shove it up their ass.
You can say "We should kill everyone who's different" all you want, but actually saying "We're going to kill" is illegal.
Not exactly. You can still say the latter, it's just when you actually DO the killing that it becomes illegal.
The laws against slander and libel puzzle me though, as they seem orphaned by the first amendment. Seems like they set a pretty good precedent for 'selective free speech' as in the 'Do-Not-Call List.' I do like the exceptions they make in libel rules for public figures. People who live by the sword must at least be able to die by it.
I have always liked the line "Your rights, inalienable as they may be, end where the next man's nose begins."
You've cleared a lot of things up for me. I didn't realize that the EU refunded the taxes. I always just thought that since they were levied, they never saw that money again, which would have levelled the field. Thanks for that nice explanation, I think I may actually vote this year.
Give your father a candybar from me. If the country was full of people hungry for knowledge and technology like him, we'd all live in a happier place with FTTH and flying cars. Right now, the government doesn't care about making us all high tech because they think the people don't care enough to change their votes based on it. It would be great to see more people interested in getting the most in real life out of what's already doable in theory.
You obviously don't use DNS for anything other than browsing. If you did, you'd have been flaming pissed when SiteFinder came out. While it may help Joe Idiot, it doesn't help anyone who want to programmatically determine whether or not a domain exists without processing HTTP data, or hard coding verisign's ips into their apps (Which is ALWAYS a bad idea when programming --hardcoding ip's or any other meta-data-esque things means that you'll almost definately have to change your code sometime in the future.) There may be a very few exceptions, so I'm adding this line as a disclaimer for someone saying that they only code internally on some iso standardized network that is mandated from god to never change it's IP addresses around.
this is like taxing hotmail as a postal service. just because one technology covers the services previously only covered by another (ie. internet now covers what was once telco only) does not mean that they should be treated as the old entity. General Motors is not a horse-drawn carriage manufacturer. Nor is Vonage a telephone company. Damned stubborn politicians. They're not used to things changing so quickly. They'd better start getting used to it, and stop friggin complaining.
you're technically not allowed to run a mail server on your cable modem connection. For example Comcast says:
(xiv) run programs, equipment, or servers from the Premises that provide network content or any other services to anyone outside of your Premises LAN (Local Area Network), also commonly referred to as public services or servers. Examples of prohibited services and servers include, but are not limited to, e-mail, Web hosting, file sharing, and proxy services and servers;
I'm guessing that large ISPs are going to laugh at you if you complain about that. Not that I don't feel your pain, just that's what's in the fine print.
becuase spam is profitable. Even spam institutions need admins. Pray told. I personally think anything we can do to avoid legislating the internet is a step in the right direction. Legislation against spam in the US will simply push spam offshore. Hell, with labor costs, that would make it even more profitable. Let's get our heads on straight and fight it with technology, not lawyers.
but how are we supposed to know if a domain exists or not? it's always going to return a value now, so we do what? hard-code the dns values for verisign's servers into our applications that need to know? (ie mail-related programs, filter programs) It's only 'neat' if your just browsing, which is not the only DNS is used for. (The folks at Hughes could use a lesson about this as well. They seem to think that all we use the internet for is browsing, so their internet connections via satellite pretty much say download fast, upload, 1k/s -- that may seem offtopic, but it's the same narrow-mindededness about the internet that causes things like that as well)
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It would be very bad if the salads they were addicted to all had fried chicken and tomaccos on them.
I'm not sure that disrespect is the issue. "Costs them more money" would be the appropriate variable to consider. In the long run it costs them more money if people hate them enough not to even bother pirating -- they lose their market presence (whether they cashed in on it or not.)
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Not to mention that you can't uninstall gator by normal means. The %ProgramFiles%\Common Files\CMEII\ directory is hard to find if you're joe user, and oh, is that on purpose that the registry keys for gator.com don't disappear after I uninstall? Oh that's right, according to the Terms of service, those are 'enhancement technologies' and they don't necessarily get removed during the uninstall.. Interestingly enough, this information is listed under the 'Right to Remove' section in the Terms Huh!?!
Gator is (1) spyware. Gator (2) is spyware. Gator is (3) spyware. Gator (4) is spyware. Gator is (5)spyware. Gator (6) is spyware. Gator is (7) spyware. (8)Gator is spyware. (9 or so) Gator is spyware. Gator (10) is spyware. Gator is spyware (11). Gator (12) is spyware. (13) Gator is spyware. Gator (14) is spyware. (15) Gator is spyware. Any corrections?
that only works if it's ok to reboot those machines at night. Some of our machines are processing 24/7, and we have to wait until they can afford to reboot. And if some patches are waiting in queue, then the new ones don't get deployed until after the existing (waiting) patches are applied. SUS isn't meant for machines that need to do real processing, or at least it doesn't work well for them. (Then again, neither does windows, but I'm only one man in a 1400 man company)
The problem with SUS: if some fixes are queued on the machine, then the new ones don't get sent until after the other ones are installed. This sucks for the machines that we have running tests 24/7. They will be waiting for weeks to get patches sometimes, even though we've approved them for distribution via SUS.
I agree, and I can't stand citrix but we're forced to run it for dialup users. Otherwise they'd be too slow to do anything useful. I been to citrix training, and tried many different configurations, and people just complain all the time. Not to mention that the IMA service needs a babysitter. I hate citrix, and I'm in charge of it's maintanence here. Sucks big.
seems to me like there is lots of running water. (Rivers, Oceans) Doesn't lend itself to batteries, but it sounds like a good way to generate electricity, ala hydro-electric plants. People seem to be overlooking the fact that we have infrastructure like Dams that can probably be fitted with such a filter that would allow for the generation of this kind of electricity. Wars? Jesus, too many people addicted to CNN here.
Well, I wasn't saying that I liked the idea that it set a precedent, just that it does. The problem with the 'Do-Not-Call List' according to the courts wasn't that people's rights were being violated, it was that some people were exempt from obeying the list, like politicians and charities. That's only enforcing the rights of certain organizations and not those of others. This is what I meant in my previous comment. Though I agree with you and don't believe that the phone call is a method of 'free expression' but the courts seem to disagree. Go figure.
One thing I'm particularly fond of is when I get users telling me that their friend, who 'knows all about computers and stuff' told them to do something that either violates a security policy we have, or is just completely retarded. I have a HUGE tolerance for ignorance, and I appreciate that it pays my bills.
Some people just hate network guys because we control a large part of the way they do their job -- the computers.
One final thought: After 8 years of tech support and lately security administration, I've definately learned how to politely tell a user (or a manager who thinks his position in his own respective department somehow humbles me) to shove it up their ass.
Actually, I believe that's what all this fuss is about -- making employers less like hitler.
Not exactly. You can still say the latter, it's just when you actually DO the killing that it becomes illegal.
The laws against slander and libel puzzle me though, as they seem orphaned by the first amendment. Seems like they set a pretty good precedent for 'selective free speech' as in the 'Do-Not-Call List.' I do like the exceptions they make in libel rules for public figures. People who live by the sword must at least be able to die by it.
I have always liked the line "Your rights, inalienable as they may be, end where the next man's nose begins."
You've cleared a lot of things up for me. I didn't realize that the EU refunded the taxes. I always just thought that since they were levied, they never saw that money again, which would have levelled the field. Thanks for that nice explanation, I think I may actually vote this year.
Good point, I don't know what they're thinking.
Amend that, make it say "the government doesn't care about allowing us to make ourselves high tech."
Give your father a candybar from me. If the country was full of people hungry for knowledge and technology like him, we'd all live in a happier place with FTTH and flying cars. Right now, the government doesn't care about making us all high tech because they think the people don't care enough to change their votes based on it. It would be great to see more people interested in getting the most in real life out of what's already doable in theory.
General Motors is not a Horse-Drawn Carriage manufacturer, nor is Vonage a phone company.
Just because they serve the same user space as phone companies, doesn't make them the same animal.
You obviously don't use DNS for anything other than browsing. If you did, you'd have been flaming pissed when SiteFinder came out. While it may help Joe Idiot, it doesn't help anyone who want to programmatically determine whether or not a domain exists without processing HTTP data, or hard coding verisign's ips into their apps (Which is ALWAYS a bad idea when programming --hardcoding ip's or any other meta-data-esque things means that you'll almost definately have to change your code sometime in the future.) There may be a very few exceptions, so I'm adding this line as a disclaimer for someone saying that they only code internally on some iso standardized network that is mandated from god to never change it's IP addresses around.
this is like taxing hotmail as a postal service. just because one technology covers the services previously only covered by another (ie. internet now covers what was once telco only) does not mean that they should be treated as the old entity. General Motors is not a horse-drawn carriage manufacturer. Nor is Vonage a telephone company. Damned stubborn politicians. They're not used to things changing so quickly. They'd better start getting used to it, and stop friggin complaining.
(xiv) run programs, equipment, or servers from the Premises that provide network content or any other services to anyone outside of your Premises LAN (Local Area Network), also commonly referred to as public services or servers. Examples of prohibited services and servers include, but are not limited to, e-mail, Web hosting, file sharing, and proxy services and servers;
I'm guessing that large ISPs are going to laugh at you if you complain about that. Not that I don't feel your pain, just that's what's in the fine print.
I was just going to say that without all of the 'insensitive clodding.' Good catch though.
becuase spam is profitable. Even spam institutions need admins. Pray told. I personally think anything we can do to avoid legislating the internet is a step in the right direction. Legislation against spam in the US will simply push spam offshore. Hell, with labor costs, that would make it even more profitable. Let's get our heads on straight and fight it with technology, not lawyers.
but how are we supposed to know if a domain exists or not? it's always going to return a value now, so we do what? hard-code the dns values for verisign's servers into our applications that need to know? (ie mail-related programs, filter programs) It's only 'neat' if your just browsing, which is not the only DNS is used for. (The folks at Hughes could use a lesson about this as well. They seem to think that all we use the internet for is browsing, so their internet connections via satellite pretty much say download fast, upload, 1k/s -- that may seem offtopic, but it's the same narrow-mindededness about the internet that causes things like that as well)
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