I don't care about them using free speech. They can put up websites and hold rallies and buy billboards and all sorts of other free speech related projects. That's not anything I'm concerned about.
I am concerned about the fact that they are actively circumventing a process set up by the FCC for the public in order to press their own special interests. The complaint process was set up so that individuals who have seen or heard things they feel are objectionable on public airwaves have a place to air their greivances and have the opportunity to shut down "indecent" material. This group, however, is telling people what is and is not offensive and asking them to go complain to the FCC whether they've seen or heard the offending material or not.
They have every right to free speech. They don't have a right to abuse public processes for their own warped interests.
The drivers and whatnot all being crammed into the kernel just make it a specific type of kernel called a 'monolithic' kernel, that's all. In addition, there's nothing special about the kernel accepting commands. It takes commands from programs all the time, there's no reason you can't give it the same commands. The minute you load another application, such as 'sh', however, you are no longer working with just the kernel - you have an OS.
The story is a non-issue proliferated by a stupid slashdrone and I'm not discussing it because there's nothing to discuss. I'm discussing what this guy said.
Barring communist crackpots with a clinical fear of razors aside, computer science says your wrong - a kernel is a kernel and an operating system is an operating system. They are not the same thing. We are not idiot members of the media, and if you're going to post to a site that is supposed to be so technically oriented, the least you could bother to do is get the basic terminology right.
A "kernel" is nothing more than THE fundamental piece of an operating system. Its sole purpose is to provide interaction between other peices of the operating system and the bare metal of the hardware in a secure, standard way.
The operating system, on the other hand, is responsible for not only interfacing with the hardware (via a kernel), it is responsible for loading and managing user level applications such as shells and mouse daemons and whatnot.
In fact, the difference can be highlighted by pointing out that there is, technically, no reason you couldn't run an operating system without a kernel. If things like bash just worked directly on the hardware, you could forgo your kernel altoghter. Likewise, if all you have is a kernel, you can't do anything. You need the other pieces of the operating system to actually do anything useful.
'linux' is a kernel. On its own, it is mostly useless for any practical purpose.
Red Hat is an entire operating system. Without a kernel, it becomes useless.
If it was really a problem, people would not watch TV and the networks would go bankrupt, or people would complain to the FTC in cases of occasional rogue broadcasts and each isolated incident would be dealt with accordingly.
If people aren't complaining on their own, however, it's not a problem, so they ARE adhering to standards of decency. They may not be YOUR standards, but they are reasonable standards that the audience as a whole has set by supporting certain programs. If it turns out that 98% of the people in this country want to watch boobs flying around on stage at half time shows, then the other 2% of the country can go pound sand. The tv has a power button for a reason. I don't want to watch stupid mindrot like "Desperate Housewives". I don't try to get it canceled though, I just don't watch it.
If you don't like what's on TV, don't watch it and if it's that bloody important to you, let advertisers know you're not watching it. I made the conscious decision at one point that cable wasn't providing anything worth watching, so I canceled it. I don't really understand what doesn't make it through the thick skulls of these stupid fundies that run around screaching that the sky is falling. You don't like it, turn it off. Easy enough.
The existence of groups like PTC is a bastardization of the entire concept of handling indecency complaints. Individuals are perfectly welcome to submit complaints to the FCC for review. It's not even a complex process. This is the way it's SUPPOSED to work - YOU submit a complaint when YOU are offended by something. They review it, and if they determine that it was out of line with the standards of decency for the community to which it was aired, they act upon the complaint.
The existence of PTC, however, switches the entire thing around. Now, they're telling people WHAT to be offended by. These people who didn't even watch the goddamn shows - hell, it might not even have been aired in their market precisely because the network affiliate didn't find it appropriate for the area - submit complaints. You get tons of complaints from a bunch of crybaby asswipes who didn't watch the damn thing, they were just told to be offended. Now, some idiot bible thumper down in Oklahoma is getting shows canceled in New York because the PTC told them this episode that they were never going to get to see anyway is offensive. It's ridiculous.
Frankly, I'd love to see PTC sued right the hell out of existence. I suppose, however, the absurdity of the organization itself is a fairly accurate reflection of the stupidity of the typical member. If you need to be told what offends you, you're problem isn't what's on TV or radio rotting your brain, it's that you're brain has already rotted.
Important Learning Curve Ahead. Please brake going into the curve then accelerate out through the center of it.
Linux is not an operating system you clueless, grape-stomping, peabrain.
If you can manage to get the linux KERNEL working like an entire OPERATING SYSTEM without any peripheral applications and deamons I'd LOVE to see it.
Now, go back to your web design business and stop talking out your ass about things you have obviously never even been superficially involved with. I find it unlikely you've ever used anything less obscure than an Apple-built system or gotten any closer to your computer's guts than specifying RGB values in CSS stylesheets, and you clearly have the technical competence of a garbanzo bean.
If you'd been here for more than 30 seconds, you'd realize that the track record of stories on this site is so poor that it is unlikely that it is an honest mistake and very likely it is either intentionally miswritten to incite the foaming-at-the-mouth slashbots or it's a simple matter of laziness and sloppiness on the part of the submitter and Taco.
Regardless of which it is, however, the point does not change: "Red Hat's Linux" is not an uncommmon way to refer to the company's specific linux-based operating system.
Linux is not an operating system, it's the kernel on which multiple operating systems are built.
Since Red Hat is the most prominent Linux-based operating system, it is, in fact, perfectly legitimate to compare "Red Hat's Operating System" to "Microsoft's Operating System" and "Sun's Operating System".
Comparing "Linux" to "Windows" would not make sense since "Linux" is a kernel and "Windows" is an operating system. That's like saying "The Chevy 454 Engine is better than the Dodge Charger". It doesn't make sense to compare a base component to an entire finished product.
Didn't RTFA, but when referring to the various Linux-based operating systems, it's not uncommon to refer to them as "Red Hat's Linux" or "Slackware Linux", etc.
It's just a convenient way of specifying a particular operating system with certain conventions and features. Maybe if you spent a little less time reading blogs and submitting stories to Slashdot and a little more time doing... oh... I don't know... something with Linux... you'd know that.
The dialect used within America, however, is U.S. centric.
In short, you need to write appropriately for the intended audience. In this case, treating Congress as a singular noun is the appropriate way to handle the situation.
It wouldn't be from Slashdot if it didn't contain a grammar error in the very first sentence, I suppose....
Congress were told...
FYI: "Congress" is a singular entity. 'Were' is the imperfect indicative plural of 'be'. You want 'was'.
Normally I wouldn't care, of course, but when you're sending things which you desire action on, it's best to be reasonably accurate when it comes to spelling and grammar.
Adelphia is run by greedy, largely ignorant assholes. These are the people who once cut my cable off because I wasn't sending them payments on the bills coming in marked "do not pay, this will be deducted automatically". When I confronted them, I was told it was my own fault because I wasn't explicitly looking at my bank statements for their autotmatic charges.
I imagine this has more to do with the fact that Adelphia - indeed, cable in general - is the worst, least customer-centric "service" on the planet. Be smart, go satellite if you can.
How is this flamebait? "Ohio" is a protest song written as a direct result of the Kent State incident. If expressing a certain level of dismay at the parody of the song is "flamebait" then the original post with the parody is certainly no less flamebait then this is.
The database should really only be used for tracking foreign students, especially the ones that come over here from China where there's not a lot of control over the activities of individuals inside the country (and a lot of opportunity for them to go other places without much oversight).
The biggest threat right now is from foreign terrorists and there's a lot of anti-American sentiment/activity in foreign student groups around the world. It's a breeding ground for Al Quaeda recruits and if we can catch them before they join up, it will be easier for Homeland Security/CIA/FBI/etc. to stop them from killing more innocent Americans.
Um. The action of inhaling harmful chemicals into the lungs and bloodstream causes adverse physical effects on your health.
The action of leading a sedentary gaming lifestyle causes adverse physical effects on your health.
That was a reasonable analogy the g-parent poster used. In each instance we're talking about the negative health effects of choosing to perform certain actions. Of course, there's always the argument that you can lead a moderate gaming lifestyle without being sedentary but you can't really "moderately smoke" without expecting to get sick.
I see. You must be a Bush voter, so I'll need to teach some 3rd grade reading and comprehension skills here. Sorry - I didn't realize you were a red stater.
More of the "corporation run the country" bullshit.
No kidding.
This means that I am not particularly interested in your excuses - I'm already well aware of the problem of corporate influence and control of the United States government. However, when you only quote a portion of it:
More of the "corporation run the country" bullshit.
You lose the statement in which I expressed agreement. That changes the entire meaning to "you're full of shit".
Please do try to keep the importance of context in mind, it's not that hard. If you try applying a little bit of brain power and maybe reading a few books instead of vegging in front of "Wife Swap" every night, you may even the hang of it.
I like when stupid people like yourself quote half of my statements and then apply the meaning only in that little part to the entire post. It always amuses me how the part you ignore - which completely changes the meaning of the statement to whatever the opposite is that the moron is trying to pin me with - always seems to be the very first part of the statement they DON'T quote.
Tell me, does being so woefully incapable of defending your point without making things up and applying them to me actually physically HURT, or is just a deep, emotional emptiness caused by your general ignorance?
You're right, you're not a lawyer. And twenty years of software sales says you're wrong. In fact, if you've ever sold a car privately, you know you're wrong (don't give me crap about new cars. Most of the terms and disclosures are auto-specific issues forced by the government because the automitive sales sector was abusing people). Basically, as long as you don't misrepresent what you're selling, you're in the clear if someone tries to sue you. Oh, the car is full of rust? Well, if you sold it "as is" and didn't try to claim the car was in better shape than it was, the buyer is pretty much SOL. It's the BUYER'S job to understand what they're buying. It's the SELLER'S job to not misrepresent what they're selling. If the buyer doesn't look over the car and ask questions about it, too bad.
Valve made it abundantly clear that you had to activate the product and made no effort to conceal that fact. If you didn't know that, it's your own fault for being so ignorant, not theirs.
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I don't care about them using free speech. They can put up websites and hold rallies and buy billboards and all sorts of other free speech related projects. That's not anything I'm concerned about.
I am concerned about the fact that they are actively circumventing a process set up by the FCC for the public in order to press their own special interests. The complaint process was set up so that individuals who have seen or heard things they feel are objectionable on public airwaves have a place to air their greivances and have the opportunity to shut down "indecent" material. This group, however, is telling people what is and is not offensive and asking them to go complain to the FCC whether they've seen or heard the offending material or not.
They have every right to free speech. They don't have a right to abuse public processes for their own warped interests.
The drivers and whatnot all being crammed into the kernel just make it a specific type of kernel called a 'monolithic' kernel, that's all. In addition, there's nothing special about the kernel accepting commands. It takes commands from programs all the time, there's no reason you can't give it the same commands. The minute you load another application, such as 'sh', however, you are no longer working with just the kernel - you have an OS.
The story is a non-issue proliferated by a stupid slashdrone and I'm not discussing it because there's nothing to discuss. I'm discussing what this guy said.
Barring communist crackpots with a clinical fear of razors aside, computer science says your wrong - a kernel is a kernel and an operating system is an operating system. They are not the same thing. We are not idiot members of the media, and if you're going to post to a site that is supposed to be so technically oriented, the least you could bother to do is get the basic terminology right.
No... no no no.
A "kernel" is nothing more than THE fundamental piece of an operating system. Its sole purpose is to provide interaction between other peices of the operating system and the bare metal of the hardware in a secure, standard way.
The operating system, on the other hand, is responsible for not only interfacing with the hardware (via a kernel), it is responsible for loading and managing user level applications such as shells and mouse daemons and whatnot.
In fact, the difference can be highlighted by pointing out that there is, technically, no reason you couldn't run an operating system without a kernel. If things like bash just worked directly on the hardware, you could forgo your kernel altoghter. Likewise, if all you have is a kernel, you can't do anything. You need the other pieces of the operating system to actually do anything useful.
'linux' is a kernel. On its own, it is mostly useless for any practical purpose.
Red Hat is an entire operating system. Without a kernel, it becomes useless.
If it was really a problem, people would not watch TV and the networks would go bankrupt, or people would complain to the FTC in cases of occasional rogue broadcasts and each isolated incident would be dealt with accordingly.
If people aren't complaining on their own, however, it's not a problem, so they ARE adhering to standards of decency. They may not be YOUR standards, but they are reasonable standards that the audience as a whole has set by supporting certain programs. If it turns out that 98% of the people in this country want to watch boobs flying around on stage at half time shows, then the other 2% of the country can go pound sand. The tv has a power button for a reason. I don't want to watch stupid mindrot like "Desperate Housewives". I don't try to get it canceled though, I just don't watch it.
If you don't like what's on TV, don't watch it and if it's that bloody important to you, let advertisers know you're not watching it. I made the conscious decision at one point that cable wasn't providing anything worth watching, so I canceled it. I don't really understand what doesn't make it through the thick skulls of these stupid fundies that run around screaching that the sky is falling. You don't like it, turn it off. Easy enough.
The existence of groups like PTC is a bastardization of the entire concept of handling indecency complaints. Individuals are perfectly welcome to submit complaints to the FCC for review. It's not even a complex process. This is the way it's SUPPOSED to work - YOU submit a complaint when YOU are offended by something. They review it, and if they determine that it was out of line with the standards of decency for the community to which it was aired, they act upon the complaint.
The existence of PTC, however, switches the entire thing around. Now, they're telling people WHAT to be offended by. These people who didn't even watch the goddamn shows - hell, it might not even have been aired in their market precisely because the network affiliate didn't find it appropriate for the area - submit complaints. You get tons of complaints from a bunch of crybaby asswipes who didn't watch the damn thing, they were just told to be offended. Now, some idiot bible thumper down in Oklahoma is getting shows canceled in New York because the PTC told them this episode that they were never going to get to see anyway is offensive. It's ridiculous.
Frankly, I'd love to see PTC sued right the hell out of existence. I suppose, however, the absurdity of the organization itself is a fairly accurate reflection of the stupidity of the typical member. If you need to be told what offends you, you're problem isn't what's on TV or radio rotting your brain, it's that you're brain has already rotted.
Important Learning Curve Ahead. Please brake going into the curve then accelerate out through the center of it.
Linux is not an operating system you clueless, grape-stomping, peabrain.
If you can manage to get the linux KERNEL working like an entire OPERATING SYSTEM without any peripheral applications and deamons I'd LOVE to see it.
Now, go back to your web design business and stop talking out your ass about things you have obviously never even been superficially involved with. I find it unlikely you've ever used anything less obscure than an Apple-built system or gotten any closer to your computer's guts than specifying RGB values in CSS stylesheets, and you clearly have the technical competence of a garbanzo bean.
SO SHUT UP.
Says the newest member of the slashbot horde.
If you'd been here for more than 30 seconds, you'd realize that the track record of stories on this site is so poor that it is unlikely that it is an honest mistake and very likely it is either intentionally miswritten to incite the foaming-at-the-mouth slashbots or it's a simple matter of laziness and sloppiness on the part of the submitter and Taco.
Regardless of which it is, however, the point does not change: "Red Hat's Linux" is not an uncommmon way to refer to the company's specific linux-based operating system.
Linux is not an operating system, it's the kernel on which multiple operating systems are built.
Since Red Hat is the most prominent Linux-based operating system, it is, in fact, perfectly legitimate to compare "Red Hat's Operating System" to "Microsoft's Operating System" and "Sun's Operating System".
Comparing "Linux" to "Windows" would not make sense since "Linux" is a kernel and "Windows" is an operating system. That's like saying "The Chevy 454 Engine is better than the Dodge Charger". It doesn't make sense to compare a base component to an entire finished product.
Didn't RTFA, but when referring to the various Linux-based operating systems, it's not uncommon to refer to them as "Red Hat's Linux" or "Slackware Linux", etc.
It's just a convenient way of specifying a particular operating system with certain conventions and features. Maybe if you spent a little less time reading blogs and submitting stories to Slashdot and a little more time doing... oh... I don't know... something with Linux... you'd know that.
The dialect used within America, however, is U.S. centric.
In short, you need to write appropriately for the intended audience. In this case, treating Congress as a singular noun is the appropriate way to handle the situation.
I'm pretty certain the FTC, however, is U.S. centric.
It wouldn't be from Slashdot if it didn't contain a grammar error in the very first sentence, I suppose....
Congress were told...
FYI: "Congress" is a singular entity. 'Were' is the imperfect indicative plural of 'be'. You want 'was'.
Normally I wouldn't care, of course, but when you're sending things which you desire action on, it's best to be reasonably accurate when it comes to spelling and grammar.
Never attribute to malice....
Adelphia is run by greedy, largely ignorant assholes. These are the people who once cut my cable off because I wasn't sending them payments on the bills coming in marked "do not pay, this will be deducted automatically". When I confronted them, I was told it was my own fault because I wasn't explicitly looking at my bank statements for their autotmatic charges.
I imagine this has more to do with the fact that Adelphia - indeed, cable in general - is the worst, least customer-centric "service" on the planet. Be smart, go satellite if you can.
How is this flamebait? "Ohio" is a protest song written as a direct result of the Kent State incident. If expressing a certain level of dismay at the parody of the song is "flamebait" then the original post with the parody is certainly no less flamebait then this is.
The database should really only be used for tracking foreign students, especially the ones that come over here from China where there's not a lot of control over the activities of individuals inside the country (and a lot of opportunity for them to go other places without much oversight).
The biggest threat right now is from foreign terrorists and there's a lot of anti-American sentiment/activity in foreign student groups around the world. It's a breeding ground for Al Quaeda recruits and if we can catch them before they join up, it will be easier for Homeland Security/CIA/FBI/etc. to stop them from killing more innocent Americans.
You're welcome, cocklover.
Um. The action of inhaling harmful chemicals into the lungs and bloodstream causes adverse physical effects on your health.
The action of leading a sedentary gaming lifestyle causes adverse physical effects on your health.
That was a reasonable analogy the g-parent poster used. In each instance we're talking about the negative health effects of choosing to perform certain actions. Of course, there's always the argument that you can lead a moderate gaming lifestyle without being sedentary but you can't really "moderately smoke" without expecting to get sick.
I'm not a criminal. I'm not a sociopath. I'm not overweight.
Then why are you posting here?
Uh... no. The sarcasm point would only be valid had I stated it as "No Kidding?", which I did not.
Again: it's called reading comprehension. Try it sometime. Perhaps after you graduate from grammar school.
I see. You must be a Bush voter, so I'll need to teach some 3rd grade reading and comprehension skills here. Sorry - I didn't realize you were a red stater.
More of the "corporation run the country" bullshit.
No kidding.
This means that I am not particularly interested in your excuses - I'm already well aware of the problem of corporate influence and control of the United States government. However, when you only quote a portion of it:
More of the "corporation run the country" bullshit.
You lose the statement in which I expressed agreement. That changes the entire meaning to "you're full of shit".
Please do try to keep the importance of context in mind, it's not that hard. If you try applying a little bit of brain power and maybe reading a few books instead of vegging in front of "Wife Swap" every night, you may even the hang of it.
I like when stupid people like yourself quote half of my statements and then apply the meaning only in that little part to the entire post. It always amuses me how the part you ignore - which completely changes the meaning of the statement to whatever the opposite is that the moron is trying to pin me with - always seems to be the very first part of the statement they DON'T quote.
Tell me, does being so woefully incapable of defending your point without making things up and applying them to me actually physically HURT, or is just a deep, emotional emptiness caused by your general ignorance?
Blah blah blah. More of the "corporation run the country" bullshit.
No kidding. Then fight. If you're already fighting, keep fighting.
It's not a matter of "common sense". It's a matter of "until someone challenges it, that's the way it is - deal".
You're right, you're not a lawyer. And twenty years of software sales says you're wrong. In fact, if you've ever sold a car privately, you know you're wrong (don't give me crap about new cars. Most of the terms and disclosures are auto-specific issues forced by the government because the automitive sales sector was abusing people). Basically, as long as you don't misrepresent what you're selling, you're in the clear if someone tries to sue you. Oh, the car is full of rust? Well, if you sold it "as is" and didn't try to claim the car was in better shape than it was, the buyer is pretty much SOL. It's the BUYER'S job to understand what they're buying. It's the SELLER'S job to not misrepresent what they're selling. If the buyer doesn't look over the car and ask questions about it, too bad.
Valve made it abundantly clear that you had to activate the product and made no effort to conceal that fact. If you didn't know that, it's your own fault for being so ignorant, not theirs.