What on EARTH is up with IE's css support? is it intentionally designed to be completely broken?
<rant>Yes, but they really do not care, because they are illegally putting it as the default on their crap (despite its quantities of pirated code) OS which they have an illegal monopoly on.</rant>
Seriously, I've pretty much given up designing webpages for MSIE -- design them as the W3C says and if anyone complains tell them to get one of the loads of WWW browsers (i.e.: not MSIE) -- sometimes standards-compliant pages do work in MSIE, by coincidence, anyway.
If users of your WWW site must use MSIE I strongly suggest you read <plug type="shameless"> my suggestion at WebMaterWorld[WARNING: DO NOT CLICK ON THIS IN MSIE AS IT IS A LINK & MSIE DOES NOT SUPPORT HYPERTEXT IN HTML]for getting round problems in MSIE, telling users of MSIE's problems and making your WWW site standards-complaint.</plug>
Interestingly, M$ have not added any features to MSIE since about version 2.0 -- in fact I think Bill Gates does not trust anyone else with the source so the only copy was on his personal HDD which he fried therefore to add feautres they would have to try to edit the binaries.
]The reference to the URI spec that the M$KB gives[WARNING: DO NOT CLICK ON THIS IN MSIE AS IT IS A LINK & MSIE DOES NOT SUPPORT HYPERTEXT IN HTML] is a draft version of a proposed informational RFC on URI's that expired on 1994-09-21 and never got past its early stages because it was technically incorrect.
The latest version of the actual standards-track URI spec is RFC 2396 (1998-08).
An informational RFC on the meaning of the terms URL and URN in comparison to URI is RFC 3305 (2003-09)
BTW, The old informational RFC on URI's on the WWW is RFC 1630 (1994-06)
IMO the parent should be obvious to anyone with an ounce of maturity, and it is sad it needs saying.
As I and people I know certainly do not think there is anything good about this worm (or any worm or any destructive as opposed to constructive means of solving an argument for thst matter) and the argument against worms is very clear, my opinion is that most of the posts that disagree with that sentiment (e.g.: sibling posts) are written by people who are merely trying to stir up trouble or troll on/. because they have nothing better to do, and that these posters do not seriously think the ideas they are putting forward are good ones to follow (especially due to the large invalid/valid argument ratio of their posts).
If anyone has taken even a few seconds to really think about the issue, and still think this virus is "cool" then, IMO, there is probably little point in trying to use logical arguments to persuade them otherwise (as their beliefs are theological).
News@11! OMG! Reports suggest that M$-funded studies tend to support M$. [waaa...aaaaah...I sounded l337 then.]
As M$ have such a track record as a company who like to pay people to say that their software is crap (reverse astroturfing[?]), reduce their own profits, tell the truth and make as little money as possible; I find this to be a shocking revelation.
How could even the borg be so evil. This beyond evil. It's a conspiracy -- M$ could not have thought up such a plan themselves -- the CIA, the FBI, MI5, Bush and the Queen (all known for their vast intelligence) must have masterminded such a plot. </sarcasm>
Seriously, Maybe this is a coincidence, but anyway, their site is slow for me ATM and below (quite funny) is what happened when I first tried out their site (when it was first/.ed) -- it has also beens low when not/.ed and other people on different connections have confirmed its slowness.
I'm on a very fast college connection (Gb/s or sthg and direct connection to the European backbone) (with hardly anyone else around as its after closing time). Earlier I downloaded Apache which took a few seconds.
Shortly afterwards I thought I'd check the MS anti-free-software site at http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/facts/ to get my blood pressure up, and to laugh at their reasons why free software is more expensive than proprietary software.
The homepage took more than 2 minutes to load -- I went off to talk to someone and came back and it was still loading! When it loaded I read the first news item on the page and ROFLed.
The news item (at the forementioned URI) says that, and I quote, "Microsoft-sponsered benchmarks [by an] independent review by Meta [a company]" show that "WinTel web servers perform better than Linux".
I skimmed this and it is interesting that this well-known phenomenem has been scientifically quantified.
This may be redundant - I could not be bothered reading the comments. But, I would also imagine that your average/.er would do the total opposite (at least to other geeks anyway) and try and deviate from the norm, because we tend to have a different (opposite) ideological belief -- well I do anyway;-). That is that diversity (and by extension, tolerance) is good, because it increases the usefulness, productivity, life-span and efficiency of the human species (or any other group of abstract, concrete (animate or non-animate) entities or things).
AFAIK the BBC gets all (or nearly all) its money from licensing, not taxpayers. I do not hold any license from them, so I would, probably, object if they are using tax payers money.
BTW, I think this is a pathetic criticism of the BBC who we should -- regardless of what happened in this case -- in general support (as IMO the world's most unbiased news source -- no unfortunately I don't think/. makes it;-) ) against the UK Governments repeated use of legal or blackmail-baised censorship. The UK Government is now threatening to effectively close down the BBC -- this is a serious freedom-of-expression issue.
Doh, I originally read that snippet from the constitution after hacking a sendmail.cf file for about an hour... soo I didn't quite grok it all
I orignally thought the same thing and went to check the US constitution when I RTFAed. We've all been there and anyway your comment was actually genuinely informative (not a kill-the-bastards comment like pretty much everyone elses) even if not entirely true.
okay, i get IANAUSC, but what is BACOTEGB? but am citizen of empire of great britain?
GMTA. Almost: I actually meant "but a citizen of the evil [empire of] GB", but same difference. My college tutor is on my back for being on/. {cough}
No, No. Actually, I don't think he was, but he was quite l33t I guess.
Here's my offer:
I know its you who wrote it, Darl Mc. Bride -- if you agree to give yourself up I'll give you the same proportion of your own bounty money as the proportion of your code in the kernel, Linux. Email me to arrange for you to sign a contract to this effect at a mutually convenient time. Seems fair?
It has been my experience that the only reason people use these things is because they don't know any better. Absolutely everybody I have shown Firebird has switched.
Exactly the same happened to me. In fact, I even had people asking me for a copy of Phoenix 0.1/0.2 because they saw me using it and thought it looked better than MSIE.
In response to sibling posts who say MFb does not work with many sites:
IMO (and the opinion of people I know who use it) it works with >99.99% of sites (because of its quirks mode). I have only found a few sites that there are any (even minor problems with).
If there are problems with certain sites, tech evangilism to the webmaster (or reporting sites to Mozilla tech evangilism for sorting out) does work -- webmasters cannot ignore the 5-30% (depending on which independent survey you believe) of their users/customers who use Gecko.
Even if one do come across a website in that >0.01% that one has to use and tech evangilism does not work, (a) use MSIE for that site -- there, I think, is an extension for MFb to open links in MSIE (which I don't have as I don't need it) and (b) any (even) relatively computer-illiterate people do understand & believe the idea that it is the webmaster and MSIE's fault, not MFb (especially as websites that only work with MSIE are usually content-free and badly designed in general). (I admit there are also many people (probably as many) people who say they'll use anything that works (i.e.: MSIE) with their sites, but such is life.)
According to BBC News he will not be formally knighted by the Queen -- it is just an honorary knighthood -- so bad luck for those who hoped Brenda would slip.
It would be, because, as much as anyone can understand McBride (of what-is-he-smoking fame), my understanding is that he only claims that part of Linux is his (and definitely only part of GNU), therefore his company is using GPLed software (that they think is evil) (includig the stuff they claim contains their EIER aka IP) and probably distributing it under the GPL terms.
Another (not that interesting) SCO story but I'm bored so I'll comment. [BTW, has SCO given any indication of what they are moaning about yet?]
As there is not much to say about the story itself (except it will probably fuel Darl's belief that the whole wroled is out to get him -- when vice versa may be true), I thought I'd say how childish most of the other (go-get-SCO) responses are -- probably not surprising as most sensible peeps have got bored of SCO, and everything there is to say on this story is in the article -- not that that has ever stopped/.ers before.
Whoever is responsible for the worm is a very pathetic individual (whether they thought it would help or hinder SCO and whether they are from SCO, IBM, Novell, RedHat, the OSS/free-software movement or are totally unconnected); they are just trying to stir up trouble in something that should be solved through discussion (or -- if need be -- lawsuits) not this sort of immoral behaviour.
In relation to Bill Gates: I thought that anyone holding US citizenship was not allowed to accept honours from foreign governments/monarchs, but I may be wrong.
I'm a UKonian and I think like most people here the knighthoods are a pile of crap and mean nothing -- mainly because they are shrouded in mystery and given to totally the wrong people -- in fact, I was discussing this just the other day.
People who get knighthoods are generally rewarded fot their money and power (often gained by immoral/illegal means) not whether they have helped humanity (though there are exceptions like Berners-Lee who I said a while back should be knighted before he was). Don't Saddam Hussein and Robert Mugarbe have knighthoods?
According to an article in EWeek, Blake Stowell (SCO spokesperson), admits that SCO sent this to Congress.
According to the article, Stowell said "We sent this communication because we felt it was an issue that the highest lawmakers in the land need to be aware of" in typical SCO vague fashion.
According to an article in EWeek, Blake Stowell (SCO spokesperson), admits that SCO sent this to Congress.
According to the article, Stowell said "We sent this communication because we felt it was an issue that the highest lawmakers in the land need to be aware of" in typical SCO vague fashion.
Parent is funny.
But I guess that is the kind of confusion that is caused (to jornalists and such like) by users and developers saying Linux when they mean GNU. Linux now has two meanings.
I may be stating the obvious here, but my 2c on the letter to Congress:
ROFL...its so funny even the US Congress would not be taken in by this...LOL...this has got to be a joke
It sounds a bit like the nutters who write to the Queen in the UK moaning about random things she has nothing to do with. My point is what is he actually asking Congress to do? I cannot see any request or anything.
In the main he actually seems to complement the free-software or OSS movement by saying we managed to make better software. Thanks!
He doesn't state one specific example of how free software damages the economy or national security or anything out (except his spurious claim that one piece of free software which his company made its money from (Linux) may contain some of his company's patents or is it copyrights or maybe trade secrets or something anyway -- isn't this for the courts to sort out?)
It is full of contradictions like saying OSS is out to destroy big business and then saying big business is naughty because they back it
It is wirtten in a very childish way
He talks about vague things like "the issue" never actually stating what it is
He goes on about testing the GPL -- surely this doesn't make sense -- what does test mean -- it is just a license like any other. He also says it contradicts copyright law -- how can a license based on rights given undrr copyright law contradict copyright law?
He also claims free software is not original? Well, all software is orginal at some point surely? He claims OSS is proprietary? Contadiction?
He calims that it is evil because other countries have computing capibilities now? Has he even thought that non-USans make much (probably most) software and that the computer was not even invented in the US.
"many corporations..have a 'don't ask, don't tell' policy"...hmmm..he wouldn't be refering to as company called SCO would he?
Most imprtantly he seems to be claiming that US law and the US constitution say that copyright-holders are supposed to hog their works and are not allowed to license them
He seems to miss that copyleft is a form of copyright protection
I could go on...
In summary it is a troll but not a very good one as it is such a classic by-the-book troll no one would think it was not a troll (which after all is part of the point of trolling)
Manybe this is a coincidence but anyway. I'm on a very fast college connection (Gb/s or sthg and direct connection to the European backbone) (with hardly anyone else around as its after closing time). Earlier I downloaded Apache which took a few seconds.
Shortly afterwards I thought I'd check the MS anti-free-software site at http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/facts/ to get my blood pressure up, and to laugh at their reasons why free software is more expensive than proprietary software.
The homepage took more than 2 minutes to load -- I went off to talk to someone and came back and it was still loading! When it loaded I read the first news item on the page and ROFLed.
The news item (at the forementioned URI) says that, and I quote, "Microsoft-sponsered benchmarks [by an] independent review by Meta [a company]" show that "WinTel web servers perform better than Linux".
IANAL, but "ye, right!" (unless your in the USA or other anti-liberal countries (where it may be binding)).
May Verislime burn in hell, oh, and have their powers removed.
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I doubt emulators are the reason game manufacturers are not producing for GNU (though it is an interesting idea and could be true in the future when GNU becomes more popular and/or these emulators work better).
I do not know anything about the games industry (I do not even play games much), but I would guess the reasons for this are the same reasons why commercial products are not been created in general (it is cheaper just producing for the most popular, Microsoft tools are used for development, M$ wants them too (and all that entails), &c).
Off-topic: From your profile:
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Hmmm...was that supposed to make sense (anyway..eye of the beholder and all)?
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<rant>Yes, but they really do not care, because they are illegally putting it as the default on their crap (despite its quantities of pirated code) OS which they have an illegal monopoly on.</rant>
Seriously, I've pretty much given up designing webpages for MSIE -- design them as the W3C says and if anyone complains tell them to get one of the loads of WWW browsers (i.e.: not MSIE) -- sometimes standards-compliant pages do work in MSIE, by coincidence, anyway.
If users of your WWW site must use MSIE I strongly suggest you read <plug type="shameless"> my suggestion at WebMaterWorld [WARNING: DO NOT CLICK ON THIS IN MSIE AS IT IS A LINK & MSIE DOES NOT SUPPORT HYPERTEXT IN HTML]for getting round problems in MSIE, telling users of MSIE's problems and making your WWW site standards-complaint.</plug>
Interestingly, M$ have not added any features to MSIE since about version 2.0 -- in fact I think Bill Gates does not trust anyone else with the source so the only copy was on his personal HDD which he fried therefore to add feautres they would have to try to edit the binaries.
The latest version of the actual standards-track URI spec is RFC 2396 (1998-08).
An informational RFC on the meaning of the terms URL and URN in comparison to URI is RFC 3305 (2003-09)
BTW, The old informational RFC on URI's on the WWW is RFC 1630 (1994-06)
I am feeling animated
As I and people I know certainly do not think there is anything good about this worm (or any worm or any destructive as opposed to constructive means of solving an argument for thst matter) and the argument against worms is very clear, my opinion is that most of the posts that disagree with that sentiment (e.g.: sibling posts) are written by people who are merely trying to stir up trouble or troll on /. because they have nothing better to do, and that these posters do not seriously think the ideas they are putting forward are good ones to follow (especially due to the large invalid/valid argument ratio of their posts).
If anyone has taken even a few seconds to really think about the issue, and still think this virus is "cool" then, IMO, there is probably little point in trying to use logical arguments to persuade them otherwise (as their beliefs are theological).
As M$ have such a track record as a company who like to pay people to say that their software is crap (reverse astroturfing[?]), reduce their own profits, tell the truth and make as little money as possible; I find this to be a shocking revelation.
How could even the borg be so evil. This beyond evil. It's a conspiracy -- M$ could not have thought up such a plan themselves -- the CIA, the FBI, MI5, Bush and the Queen (all known for their vast intelligence) must have masterminded such a plot. </sarcasm>
Seriously, Maybe this is a coincidence, but anyway, their site is slow for me ATM and below (quite funny) is what happened when I first tried out their site (when it was first /.ed) -- it has also beens low when not /.ed and other people on different connections have confirmed its slowness.
This may be redundant - I could not be bothered reading the comments. But, I would also imagine that your average /.er would do the total opposite (at least to other geeks anyway) and try and deviate from the norm, because we tend to have a different (opposite) ideological belief -- well I do anyway ;-). That is that diversity (and by extension, tolerance) is good, because it increases the usefulness, productivity, life-span and efficiency of the human species (or any other group of abstract, concrete (animate or non-animate) entities or things).
BTW, I think this is a pathetic criticism of the BBC who we should -- regardless of what happened in this case -- in general support (as IMO the world's most unbiased news source -- no unfortunately I don't think /. makes it ;-) ) against the UK Governments repeated use of legal or blackmail-baised censorship. The UK Government is now threatening to effectively close down the BBC -- this is a serious freedom-of-expression issue.
Here's my offer:
I know its you who wrote it, Darl Mc. Bride -- if you agree to give yourself up I'll give you the same proportion of your own bounty money as the proportion of your code in the kernel, Linux. Email me to arrange for you to sign a contract to this effect at a mutually convenient time. Seems fair?
In response to sibling posts who say MFb does not work with many sites:
Joined up government: see BBC News on EU vs. M$
It would be, because, as much as anyone can understand McBride (of what-is-he-smoking fame), my understanding is that he only claims that part of Linux is his (and definitely only part of GNU), therefore his company is using GPLed software (that they think is evil) (includig the stuff they claim contains their EIER aka IP) and probably distributing it under the GPL terms.
As there is not much to say about the story itself (except it will probably fuel Darl's belief that the whole wroled is out to get him -- when vice versa may be true), I thought I'd say how childish most of the other (go-get-SCO) responses are -- probably not surprising as most sensible peeps have got bored of SCO, and everything there is to say on this story is in the article -- not that that has ever stopped /.ers before.
Whoever is responsible for the worm is a very pathetic individual (whether they thought it would help or hinder SCO and whether they are from SCO, IBM, Novell, RedHat, the OSS/free-software movement or are totally unconnected); they are just trying to stir up trouble in something that should be solved through discussion (or -- if need be -- lawsuits) not this sort of immoral behaviour.
Nonetheless, I thought there was some legislation about this in the US for normal citzens which might make it illegal.
In relation to Bill Gates: I thought that anyone holding US citizenship was not allowed to accept honours from foreign governments/monarchs, but I may be wrong.
I'm a UKonian and I think like most people here the knighthoods are a pile of crap and mean nothing -- mainly because they are shrouded in mystery and given to totally the wrong people -- in fact, I was discussing this just the other day.
People who get knighthoods are generally rewarded fot their money and power (often gained by immoral/illegal means) not whether they have helped humanity (though there are exceptions like Berners-Lee who I said a while back should be knighted before he was). Don't Saddam Hussein and Robert Mugarbe have knighthoods?
According to the article, Stowell said "We sent this communication because we felt it was an issue that the highest lawmakers in the land need to be aware of" in typical SCO vague fashion.
According to the article, Stowell said "We sent this communication because we felt it was an issue that the highest lawmakers in the land need to be aware of" in typical SCO vague fashion.
Parent is funny. But I guess that is the kind of confusion that is caused (to jornalists and such like) by users and developers saying Linux when they mean GNU. Linux now has two meanings.
I could go on...
In summary it is a troll but not a very good one as it is such a classic by-the-book troll no one would think it was not a troll (which after all is part of the point of trolling)
Shortly afterwards I thought I'd check the MS anti-free-software site at http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/facts/ to get my blood pressure up, and to laugh at their reasons why free software is more expensive than proprietary software.
The homepage took more than 2 minutes to load -- I went off to talk to someone and came back and it was still loading! When it loaded I read the first news item on the page and ROFLed.
The news item (at the forementioned URI) says that, and I quote, "Microsoft-sponsered benchmarks [by an] independent review by Meta [a company]" show that "WinTel web servers perform better than Linux".
Need I say anymore...
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What are the mods smoking...the parent is an obvious troll, for heavens sake.
Aren't you?
I doubt emulators are the reason game manufacturers are not producing for GNU (though it is an interesting idea and could be true in the future when GNU becomes more popular and/or these emulators work better).
I do not know anything about the games industry (I do not even play games much), but I would guess the reasons for this are the same reasons why commercial products are not been created in general (it is cheaper just producing for the most popular, Microsoft tools are used for development, M$ wants them too (and all that entails), &c).
Off-topic: From your profile:
Hmmm...was that supposed to make sense (anyway..eye of the beholder and all)?