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MyDoom Windows Worm DDoSing SCO

We mentioned the myDoom Worm just a few hours ago, but more information is available now, mainly that its ultimate goal is apparently to DDoS SCO. You can see some more detail at NetCraft. Obviously SCO has a lot of enemies out there right now, but it's always sad to watch someone stoop to this level.

694 comments

  1. I never thought I'd say this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Quick, disable your AV software, and get some Windows boxes on the internet!

    1. Re:I never thought I'd say this... by swordboy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Better yet, go here and keep clicking refresh - maybe you'll be the first to see the DDoS taking place!

      --

      Life is the leading cause of death in America.
    2. Re:I never thought I'd say this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Can someone email the virus please?

    3. Re:I never thought I'd say this... by Pollux · · Score: 3, Funny

      Obviously SCO has a lot of enemies out there right now, but it's always sad to watch someone stoop to this level.

      Quick, disable your AV software, and get some Windows boxes on the internet!

      You know, this reminds me of one time when an apartment building in our neighborhood was burning. Sure, you felt sorry to see it burn, and you felt sorry to see the people who lived there get hurt, but man, it's really fun to watch a building burn!

      Really, there was one guy in the group who came out in a lawn chair with a six pack and watched it all happen. Raised his beer with a "Hell yea!" when the wooden frame structure collapsed.

    4. Re:I never thought I'd say this... by caino59 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Great News!!

      I witnessed it on the first visit!

      Really though, I wanted to see if they might have added a news piece on their site regarding what was already known to be a pending attack.
      I mean..they had to know right? Surely someone warned them, or does really -no one- like them. I think that's pretty likely.
      And being that McBride is pushing on with the lawsuits, I would say it's safe to say that he doesn't bother reading the news...

    5. Re:I never thought I'd say this... by swordboy · · Score: 4, Funny

      The funny thing is that the virus isn't even supposed to start the DDoS until February 1st... STOP CLICKING HERE PEOPLE!

      --

      Life is the leading cause of death in America.
    6. Re:I never thought I'd say this... by x-router · · Score: 4, Funny

      Better yet can someone send me the virus in a handy network install so I can role it out onto our corp nets?

    7. Re:I never thought I'd say this... by AdamTheBastard · · Score: 1

      Having watched my family home burn to the ground with all my possesions in it I have to agree. Its quite very sadistic but it was pretty.

    8. Re:I never thought I'd say this... by Florian+Weimer · · Score: 1

      You know, this reminds me of one time when an apartment building in our neighborhood was burning. Sure, you felt sorry to see it burn, and you felt sorry to see the people who lived there get hurt, but man, it's really fun to watch a building burn!

      By the way, Stockhausen was slammed for a similar comment on 9/11.

    9. Re:I never thought I'd say this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      What the hell, lets slashdot them too.

    10. Re:I never thought I'd say this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aggrrr you slashdoted sco.com

    11. Re:I never thought I'd say this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where can I catch this worm?!

    12. Re:I never thought I'd say this... by falzer · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey, that's my birthday!

      Aw geez, you guys shouldn't have!

    13. Re:I never thought I'd say this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      * * * * * lynx -dump http://www.sco.com/ > /dev/null 2>&1

      If you really wanna fuck with them, change 'lynx -dump' to 'wget -r'

    14. Re:I never thought I'd say this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahhh, Stockhausen. Brings back memories of electronic music before E. String quartets and helicopters.

    15. Re:I never thought I'd say this... by bmzf · · Score: 1

      It's just so damn funny that their servers run Linux.
      Go ahead and check netcraft.

    16. Re:I never thought I'd say this... by EvilAlien · · Score: 1
      Whatever you do, just don't browse their site using Linux!

      That could end up as the single bit of fact when fiaSCO goes to court ;)

      --
      perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5, (41*2), sqrt(7056), (unpack(c,H)-2), oct(115), 10)'
    17. Re:I never thought I'd say this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aren't we supposed to Google-bomb that link by making it litigious bastards?

    18. Re:I never thought I'd say this... by mr_luc · · Score: 1

      That was me. :D I'm there for most train wrecks, too.

      I'm going to New Hamshire today.

    19. Re:I never thought I'd say this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about they release just the DDOS code without the virus so that those willing can install it? I know some people that would... NOOOOOOOO not meeeeee... ;-)

    20. Re:I never thought I'd say this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      awww, cummon....

      if caino59 saw it go down, then maybe it just got /.ed. why not keep /.ing SCO?

    21. Re:I never thought I'd say this... by tierra · · Score: 1
      You know, this reminds me of one time when an apartment building in our neighborhood was burning. Sure, you felt sorry to see it burn, and you felt sorry to see the people who lived there get hurt, but man, it's really fun to watch a building burn!

      Really, there was one guy in the group who came out in a lawn chair with a six pack and watched it all happen. Raised his beer with a "Hell yea!" when the wooden frame structure collapsed.

      Except your neighbor isn't suing everyone in the neighborhood, claiming everyone stole from him, and all that happened in the first place is his phone line got cut. You took that way out of proportion.

      No, I don't have any sympathy for SCO, they brought it on themselves. I'll feel sorry when Darl's personal life is ruined.

  2. SCO probably wrote it by corebreech · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Given their history of underhanded dealings this wouldn't surprise me one bit. This attack only helps SCO. They get sympathy. What do the worm writers get?

    Nothing.

    1. Re:SCO probably wrote it by markom · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If worm writers work for SCO -- everything :-)

    2. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Saven+Marek · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ...they get to give SCO a great fat middle finger

      No, not all of us support actions like this against SCO. It does drag people down to their level acting like this, but in the end, frustration does that to people. Not everyone, but some.

      SCO has now, for a full 12 months, made threat after threat, claim after claim, that they can't backup, but there's no way to stop them. People get frustrated by their continuous whining.

      A fly buzzing around my head annoys me. Usually, I'll slap it and kill it. That's taking me down to far below its level, but it's satisfying. Given several hundred million people annoyed with SCO, I'm surprised more haven't acted this way towards them.

    3. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Simon+Lyngshede · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well maybe they didn't write it, but Im sure there is some SCO code in it.

    4. Re:SCO probably wrote it by jimicus · · Score: 5, Funny

      Anyone whose computer is infected with this worm is violating our IP! You must pay $699 for a license!

    5. Re:SCO probably wrote it by ConversantShogun · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It does seem odd that the worm has a trigger to stop spreading on Feb 12. If SCO were to unleash a self-attacking worm, wouldn't they likely include such a provision?

      --

      --When you buy proprietary software, you don't get better software. What you get is the right to complain about it.
    6. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      How sweet would it be to *prove* SCO is behind this.

    7. Re:SCO probably wrote it by TobascoKid · · Score: 1, Funny

      Well maybe they didn't write it, but Im sure there is some SCO code in it.

      While some may consider that the virus is "derived" from SCO intellectual property, it doesn't contain actual SCO code.

      --
      At some point, somewhere, the entire internet will be found to be illegal.
    8. Re:SCO probably wrote it by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Don't forget about the proxy/backdoor that this installs:
      The virus installs a Windows program that opens up a "back door" in the system, allowing an attacker to upload additional programs onto the compromised device. The back door also enables an intruder to route his connection through the infected computer to hide the source of an attack.
      Why would SCO include a backdoor? And why would the people attcking SCO include a backdoor? Worms like Gibe.x have used multi-loaders and have been connected with spammers, but this is better work than they've done so far. We don't know everything of what this worm does, it'll be much longer until we know why it does it, and even longer until we know who did it. The clues point in too many directions right now. Round up the usual suspects!
      --
      One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
    9. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It gives SCO a very powerful tool

      Imagine for a moment that what we know now is true. 1st Feb to 14th Feb it will DDoS SCO.

      now, knowing that, SCO could point www.sco.com to the IP for say, www.kernel.org

      or to Linus's cable modem

      or even to IBM.com

      Nothing to stop them DDoSing back, and all the while seeming to be the innocent victimized party

    10. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Phragmen-Lindelof · · Score: 1

      "... but this is better work than they've done so far."
      This must be SCO's work because they own so much IP and have the best programers in the world.

    11. Re:SCO probably wrote it by TedCheshireAcad · · Score: 4, Funny

      This attack only helps SCO. They get sympathy. What do the worm writers get?

      Sir, it is obvious you have little to no understanding of the 1337 script kiddie culture. In exchange for a DDOS attack, the worm writers get something called mad pr0pz, which is a form of honor and integrity among those in the community.

    12. Re:SCO probably wrote it by FooAtWFU · · Score: 1

      They could probably make up some twisted excuse about it being the reason they lost all their source code files. =/

      --
      The World Wide Web is dying. Soon, we shall have only the Internet.
    13. Re:SCO probably wrote it by glenrm · · Score: 1

      but there's no way to stop them make that no quick and easy way to stop them. The court system and the marketplace will take care of them over time, but it requires you to take a deep breath and put SCO on ignore for a little while.

    14. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Saven+Marek · · Score: 4, Interesting

      They very easily could. The way I see it, and perhaps the way the virus writers see it, is that SCO WILL NOT STOP. They are running the company into the ground, they are losing genuine sales, they are in a public relations nightmare, staff of theirs that I know are feeling the PR pinch, and their leader is on a mission to do one thing: badmouth Linux until the day he is forced not to.

      Who else releases press releases deriding competitors or about lawsuits for a year straight, with NO press releases regarding actual real products?

      Their goal is spreading FUD, and while they are the SCO group and are allowed to do so, they will keep doing it. If this court case with IBM, and the one with Novell, go on for another 3 years, all through that SCO will release statement after statement to the press speaking rubbish about Linux and threatening normal users. They won't stop until they are made to.

      Since the law protects them and allows them to keep making these statements, the only thing that will stop them is something like a DDoS, and that's the situation we have.

    15. Re:SCO probably wrote it by pjrc · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Since Mydoom has been identified as a variant of Mimail, which is largely believe to have been written on behalf of spammers and/or paypal scammers (apparantly in Russia), the most likely scenario is that the same group created Mydoom.

      The attack on SCO is most likely just a diversion. A simple distraction from the actual goal... to turn millions of machines into zombies which can be used to conduct illegal activities (phishing scams), or can turned into email/spam relays to be sold to spammers.

      It's already been established that Mydoom installs a backdoor and allows routing of tcp/ip connections to mask the identity of the originator. More or less exactly what scammers hoping to defraud ordinary people of banking details (phishing) need. Also the standard approach to turning machines into a valuable asset that can be sold to spammers in need of mail relays or "bulletproof hosting" for their websites that host the images all those spam messages reference.

      Attacking SCO is a smart diversion.... especially if SCO takes the bait and publishes a flamebait press release (seems almost certain), which will of course provoke a response from the free software / open source communities. Lots of free press to help divert the anger of millions of (clueless) victims towards the very visible open source and free software people, and SCO, and away from the real criminals.

      Judging from most of the comments here on Slashdot so far, it appears to be working perfectly.

    16. Re:SCO probably wrote it by zsau · · Score: 1

      You mustn't have very many flies where you came from. If I tried to slap all the flies that went round my head, I'd've slapped myself to death...

      --
      Look out!
    17. Re:SCO probably wrote it by peter_gzowski · · Score: 2, Funny

      But they need someone to DDoS IBM before they can figure out what code...

      --
      "Now gluttony and exploitation serves eight!" - TV's Frank
    18. Re:SCO probably wrote it by PetWolverine · · Score: 1

      The real purpose of the DDoS is so that SCO can get all the IP addresses of infected computers. If you're infected, expect an invoice in the mail within 30 days.

      --
      I found the meaning of life the other day, but I had write-only access.
    19. Re:SCO probably wrote it by darkfus · · Score: 1

      So... naturally all infected machines are a violation of SCO's intellectual property rights. Talk about bulk licensing...

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      [sig]darkfus[/sig]
    20. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      You think so, eh? Just when SCO was about to be routinely ignored by the mainstream press, this attack comes along and gives Darl a bigger bullhorn.

      DDOSing a website does nothing to shut them up. One would practically have to be a teenaged script kiddie to think so.

    21. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Awptimus+Prime · · Score: 2

      Working for a Fortune 500 company, I can say this is no excuse. Typically, source files for any major company is kept off-site by a 3rd party backup/vault company.

      If you lose your company's source code, you have nobody to blame but yourself.

      There's a minimum expected responsibility put forth by shareholders, and this would fall into that category.

    22. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's quite possible they (SCO) are behind it. This falls along nicely with their FUD campaign in Washington DC

      http://www.linux.org/news/2004/01/22/0007.html

    23. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Troll McBride: muahhaha! now time for another press release!

      Agent MyDoom: but how will your make a press release... if you are unable to speak?

      Troll McBride: you can't stop me I am the one!

      Agent MyDoom: well there's me

      Agent MyDoom2: and me

      Agent MyDoom3: and me

      Agent MyDoom4: and me

      Agent MyDoom5: and me

      Agent MyDoom6: and me

      *fight ensues*
      But you can't keep a good troll down, and MyDoom is defeated by Troll McBride's pure force of will.

      --cut to the alternate world where charaters now have different roles --

      Troll McBride: source code? there is no source code.

      Novell: it's not in your OS my love.

      Troll McBride: but it's just a game

      Novell: so is this, have fun.

      Troll McBride: alright, alright, let us see where this goes. You two, get the source code.

      *two main lawyers go all sinister and transparent and sink into the ground*

      Linus: that's a nice trick.

      Tux: I cannot go back! *slides away ala tux racer*

      IBM: I'll handle them. *linus and perens run after tux*

      Troll McBride: handle us? you'll handle us? you know your unix heritage had much more respect. *signals to other lawyers*

      *lawyers release a barrage of photocopied source code, and discovery requests at IBM*

      *IBM holds up judges orders for real evidence, shit flying through air is halted and falls to the ground*

      Troll McBride: o..k.., you have some skill - FUD him.

      *the PR men hiding in laywers suits begin to duck and weave their PR attacks*

      NEXT EPISODES OF ABSURD-I-SCO-TRICKS HAVE YET TO BE FINALIZED... KEEP WATCHING.

    24. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Does the virus have "www.sco.com" or 216.250.128.12 hardwired in it? If the former then sure, your idea may work.

    25. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Dylan_t_p · · Score: 1

      yea except that it infects windows machines :) not linux

    26. Re:SCO probably wrote it by inode_buddha · · Score: 1
      Sadly enough, I just went to cnn.com and they describe the worm as "sneaky". Which speaks *volumes* about users. Further down their page, they have another article which claims "Neanderthals unlikely an ancestor."

      I didn't bother to read more...

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      C|N>K
    27. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If worm writers work for SCO -- everything :-)

      Darl McBride is a worm

    28. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can see the press release now.

      "Due to the high interest in SCO products our website....."

    29. Re:SCO probably wrote it by RetroGeek · · Score: 2, Funny

      yea except that it infects windows machines :) not linux

      So then they run through all possible IP addresses and throw out the ones doing a DoS (ie: Windows).

      The rest are obviously in violation.

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      - - - - - - - - - - -
      I am a programmer. I am paid to produce syntax not grammar. Deal with it.
    30. Re:SCO probably wrote it by j3110 · · Score: 1

      If you want to DoS SCO to shut them up... DoS their lawyers. Go to your local courthouse and file a civil suit against them complaining that they are harming your Linux business with their libelous claims. That'll drain their funds quicker than a DoSing virus, even if you loose.

      --
      Karma Clown
    31. Re:SCO probably wrote it by HiThere · · Score: 1

      OTOH, if scammers are responsible, they'd want it to hide at some point, so people would stop looking for it. And if it puts in back doors, and people stop expecting it...then those back doors will stay available.

      Motives don't suffice to determine the source. There are too many possibilities, and they are too unfocused. Besides, a mixed strategy is quite likely. But I'm sure that somebody is persuing other lines of investigation.

      --

      I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
    32. Re:SCO probably wrote it by gotem · · Score: 2, Insightful

      hmmm. time to change the date in my computer

    33. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Mr2cents · · Score: 1

      And it sure works! If it had an easy installation wizzard, I'd download it immediately!

      --
      "It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful." - Anton LaVey
    34. Re:SCO probably wrote it by pacsman · · Score: 1

      At risk of being modded offtopic, this comment really annoyed me. Neanderthals were most likely *not* ancestors to us. Neanderthals came from another branch and it's suspected that they were wiped out by the early modern humans which *were* our ancestors. Just because they have a story you short-sightedly dismissed as improbable doesn't mean that all the stories are, especially when you're wrong about the one you dismiss. Since this is another email virus it has to be sneaky, and the fact that it appears to be lacking the normal bad english that denotes most spam and instead fakes a returned mail makes it that much harder to spot, and deserving of the 'sneaky' moniker.

    35. Re:SCO probably wrote it by wintermute740 · · Score: 1

      "Well maybe they didn't write it, but Im sure there is some SCO code in it."

      It's a derivative work of System V!

    36. Re:SCO probably wrote it by El · · Score: 0, Troll

      Does SCO have any developers left capable of writing this? And how many Windows developers did they have to begin with? I find it strange that hotmail doesn't seem to be affected at all by this virus... could it be that their parent company had some advance knowledge?

      --

      "Freedom means freedom for everybody" -- Dick Cheney

    37. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Kulaid982 · · Score: 0

      The backdoor allows outsiders to connect to TCP port 3127 on your computer

      1) release worm that attacks own website
      2) gain sympathy from public
      3) use backdoor to install Linux on infected boxen
      4) sue the new Linux users
      5) ???
      6) Profit!!!

      --

      Isn't it interesting how you come to recognize posters based solely on their sigs???
    38. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Jzanu · · Score: 1

      Perhaps a separate assessment, one ignored by all observed. The producer(individual, group, or team) of this worm may be initiating more extensive attacks against SCO than is known to anyone else. If this is the case, perhaps this "DDoS" is only the first volley in what will be developed into a large scale campaign to destroy SCO, literally. Given that all involved here are, almost certainly, not involved with either side of this imminent battle directly, the only thing to do is watch and prevent involvement from being forced upon anyone, so far as possible.

    39. Re:SCO probably wrote it by DavidTC · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Actually, the point is that no one knows what happens to the Neanderthals. Either Cro-mags killed them all, or they interbreed with us, or quite possibly a combination. (Kill the dominate men, rape the women, lord over the less men for a few generations until there's no 'us' and 'them', just 'us'.)

      I suspect it's the last one, unless it turns out that they couldn't interbreed. In which case we rather obviously wiped them out.

      --
      If corporations are people, aren't stockholders guilty of slavery?
    40. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lose
      lose
      lose
      lose

      repeat after me:

      lose
      lose
      lose
      lose
      lose
      lose

    41. Re:SCO probably wrote it by jmors · · Score: 1
      While I would not put it past the SCOurge of the earth to have written this self attacking virus/worm themselves, certainly their ethics (lack thereof) would not seem to prevent such a thing, I honetly can't see there still being anyone working for SCO with the ability to write such a program and have it be successful. Do they even still employ software engineers/developers at all? If they indeed do, what on earth do they do all day long given that SCO hasd produced absolutely nothing original in terms of product for some time now?

      I am with the camp that believe the SCO DDoS is a diversionary tactic by those who wrote the program in order to divert attention from it's true purpose (which would likely be the creation of controllable zombie machines).

      --
      The Matrix is real... but I'm only visiting!
    42. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True, when I wrote the virus using mouse and ctrl-c ctrl-v, I have seen Copyright S(c)O all over the place. I hope they will not sue me...

    43. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Ironica · · Score: 1

      Working for a Fortune 500 company, I can say this is no excuse. Typically, source files for any major company is kept off-site by a 3rd party backup/vault company.

      Yeah... but you're counting on the *judge* knowing this.

      --
      Don't you wish your girlfriend was a geek like me?
    44. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Spleener12 · · Score: 1
      DDOSing a website does nothing to shut them up. One would practically have to be a teenaged script kiddie to think so.

      Incidentally, the virus was probably written by one, if the "SCO wrote it" conspiracy turns out to be false.

    45. Re:SCO probably wrote it by SirTreveyan · · Score: 1

      Why would SCO include a backdoor?

      The answer to that is easy. With a backdoor installed SCO can snoop through the computers of thousands of users who have never used an SCO Unix product before. Now what would they be looking for? Probably access to networks that might have access to Linux servers.

      --

      SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0

      0 rows returned

    46. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      the worm writers get something called mad pr0pz

      Umm... I think it's called /\/\4|) pr0pz old t1m3r

    47. Re:SCO probably wrote it by CFTM · · Score: 1

      Continuing this off topic theme, I just read a similar article he was refering to off of news.google.com and they believe that Neanderthals were not our ancestors in any way, their skull shape is too much different. Also it seems that it was there inability to deal with the extreme cold that killed them off, plus Cro-Mags had better weapons.

    48. Re:SCO probably wrote it by lildogie · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, there must be some Linux code in it. I can't say what code, but my engineers are doing a source scan right now.

      Since there is Linux code in the virus, even a small amount of Linux code, then the virus must belong to SCO, because SCO owns Linux.

      Since SCO owns the virus, they're guilty, and they owe a lot of people a whole lot of money.

    49. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      even if I loose what? The hounds? The knot? My morals?

    50. Re:SCO probably wrote it by midav · · Score: 1
      I have also read that we do not share any genes with them besides those that are found in our common ancestor.

      OTOH, they were much better suited to cold climate (short, stocky bones, meaning shorter, thicker extremities.) They lived in Europe since first migration from Africa, while Cro-Mags (longer, thinner bones - longer, thinner extremities) migrated from Africa (second migration) much later and could not possibly develop natural adaptation to cold climate that fast.

      However, this disadvantage was more than offset by clothes and knowledge of fire. And, as you said, Cro-Mags had better weapons.

    51. Re:SCO probably wrote it by puggled · · Score: 1

      Given that more of these viruses (especially the ones that have expiry dates) seem to be being linked to spammers who use backdoors put on the computers to send their spam, I wouldn't be that suprised if it was spammers who wrote it and are just using the whole sco thing as a nice diversion.

    52. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Kent+Recal · · Score: 1

      What does it cost me to file/participate in such a lawsuit?
      I'd support the goal unless it costs a lot of my money or time.
      (I, as many others, don't like SCO but can't afford to dedicate my life on it...)

    53. Re:SCO probably wrote it by j3110 · · Score: 1

      It's possible they could counter sue. Other than that, there are court costs. You should always consult a lawyer, so unless you have a lawyer friend or no real assets that they could claim, then it's probably not realistic. I wasn't really serious. :)

      If you really want to take them to court, you can sue them for damages as well as legal costs. It would require some time and money... The likes of which you probably don't want to invest.

      --
      Karma Clown
    54. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This makes alot of sense. Also, remember that many if not most anti-spammers are probably linux or open-source proponents, and therefore SCO haters. The spammers have been having some success in the mainstream news alienating zealous anti-spammers, and this might be another attempt at that.

    55. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Awptimus+Prime · · Score: 1

      Not at all, the judge doesn't need to know these.

      Good legal representation would bring in a senior IT consultant (or two) to explain how it would be completely negligent not to have a bullet-proof procedure for protecting such assets.

      Just as legal teams call in doctors, engineers, pilots, mechanics, etc depending on what type of issue is being dealt with in a courtroom.

      All a judge needs to know, is how to give a verdict after analyzing the information given to him. They aren't any smarter than anyone else. :)

    56. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In soviet russia, mydoom DDOSs script kiddz @ SCO.

      @work props go to those who build parition tables by hand.

    57. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Ironica · · Score: 1

      Good legal representation would bring in a senior IT consultant (or two) to explain how it would be completely negligent not to have a bullet-proof procedure for protecting such assets.

      Pre-trial motions, where decisions about what is admissible as evidence are made, don't have witnesses. You might have witnesses about the credibility of such evidence after it's presented, but in order for it to be dismissed as ridiculous in the first place, the judge needs to understand that it's not reasonable.

      If not, and you go to a jury trial (which is how a lot of civil matters are decided), then it's up to whether or not the jury gets warm fuzzies from the experts you bring in.

      --
      Don't you wish your girlfriend was a geek like me?
    58. Re:SCO probably wrote it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc /data/w32.novarg.a@mm.html Scroll down near the bottom, under Additional Information, it appears that it avoids sending itself to the hotmail.com domain.

  3. Change domain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe theyll change their domain name like M$ did to bastards.sco.com instead of sco.com/bastards

    1. Re:Change domain by julesh · · Score: 2, Funny

      Assuming you're talking about the Windows Update DDOS, you probably mean bastards.com.

    2. Re:Change domain by BenBenBen · · Score: 2, Informative
      Maybe theyll change their domain name like M$ did to bastards.sco.com instead of sco.com/bastards
      Windows Update exists at windowsupdate.com and v4.update.microsoft.com or similar.

      The dDOS was just aimed at the first one, whilst all links (web and local) to Windows Update point at the other one. The attack was therefore not hugely disruptive, especially once a nice layer of properly hardened computers was in the way.

      According to NetCraft, SCO is currently pinging at about the 16 second mark - are there really that many computers with fast clocks, or is it bad coding, or is something else happening here? Feb 1st is supposed to mark the start of the GET storm.

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      The Slashdot Paradox: "100% Overrated"
    3. Re:Change domain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      isn't that kind of change patented by someone already?

    4. Re:Change domain by elsilver · · Score: 1
      Maybe theyll change their domain name like M$ did to bastards.sco.com instead of sco.com/bastards

      I wouldn't recommend that they do that.

      I understand that tricks like that are illegal under patent law, and will attract the attention of Nizza's lawyers.

      Ooooooh, hmmmm. wait a second, maybe somebody should recommend this to SCO. The thought of them duking it out over patent infringement is just to delicious to contemplate.

      Help me...who do I cheer for?

      E.

  4. sad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obviously SCO has a lot of enemies out there right now, but it's always sad to watch someone stoop to this level.

    no it's not!!!!!

  5. It may be wrong on some level... by r0xah · · Score: 3, Funny

    This may not be the most appropriate way to attack SCO, but after all the FUD they have released and the actions they have taken it puts a smile on my face to see something like this come about. I hope their server gets toasted. Bring on the worms!

    --
    those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do. -isaac asimov
    1. Re:It may be wrong on some level... by r0xah · · Score: 1

      Childish? I notice that you posted Anonymous Coward because you don't even want to back your comment. My user name is r0xah because I was bored and didn't know what else to put. I back my statement because I dislike what SCO has done and have followed the news since the beginning. Unlike you I probably could be affected by them somehow winning a lawsuit because I work for a university who runs many Linux based systems. Oh yeah one more point... I said this may not be the correct way to go, but yes it does make me smile once again.

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      those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do. -isaac asimov
    2. Re:It may be wrong on some level... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My user name is r0xah because I was bored

      Why the fuck does everyone use that as an excuse for everything? So you're sitting around trying to think of something to do...and you decide to create a slashdot account with a shitty name? That doesn't make any goddamn sense. Everytime some asswipe does something stupid his excuse is "well...I was bored." Can't you fucking shitheads come up with a better goddamn excuse? IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

    3. Re:It may be wrong on some level... by kelnos · · Score: 1

      agreed. while i may not agree with these virus-writers' methods, and i wouldn't take part in such a thing myself, i tend to believe that people in general deserve what they get. and oh yes, SCO deserves it. yesss precciousssss...

      --
      Xfce: Lighter than some, heavier than others. Just right.
    4. Re:It may be wrong on some level... by Kredal · · Score: 1

      And Chewabacca lives on Endor! It does not make sense!

      --
      Whoever stated that signature sizes should be limited to one hundred and twenty characters can just go ahead and kiss my
    5. Re:It may be wrong on some level... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      it's the same excuse for why he is gay.


      "I was bored and sitting around looking for something to do, so I decided to have anal sex with another guy"

    6. Re:It may be wrong on some level... by Flower · · Score: 1
      It obviously didn't sneak into your network while the AV vendors were still updating signature files then. Didn't bring us down but wasted my time which is enough.

      Can just envision it:

      Kid: "I want a MyDoom, MiMailer varient worm with optional DDoS ability directed at SCO!"

      Santa: "Kid! You'll bring your network down with that."

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      I don't want knowledge. I want certainty. - Law, David Bowie
  6. Workers by turtlexit · · Score: 5, Interesting

    SCO ought to start getting hit hard today as office workers and the like start checking their email today starting around 9 Eastern, and running the virus. It'll be interesting to see what SCO's reaction will be. Almost like the calm before the storm ;-)

    1. Re:Workers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      immagine the worm DDoSing the LAN unchecked, will suck bandwidth :P

  7. Infect me!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Oh please infect me! PLEASE!! INFECT ME!!!

    I want to get infected.

    Fuck SCO.

  8. Is the source available on GPL? by Bigman · · Score: 3, Funny

    Lol
    Seriously, its is a shame, it will only fuel Darl's paranoia.

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    *--BigMan--- Time flies like an arrow.. but personally I prefer a nice glass of wine!
    1. Re:Is the source available on GPL? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Is the source available on GPL?

      No, but you can buy the SDK here.

    2. Re:Is the source available on GPL? by perdelucena · · Score: 1

      Bill Gates meets Darl McBride:

      - I told it a long time ago: GLP is viral
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      .sig attached

  9. Something Doesn't Add Up by nathanh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I thought the worm was set to start the DDOS on February 1. So why is SCO showing a DDOS right now?

    Was the February 1 thing made up? I've not yet received the virus in my email so I can't check the code for myself.

    Or (I consider this more plausible) has SCO taken their own site down with the intention of blaming the "Linux terrorists", but they stupidly took it down 3 days too early.

    1. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by GrenDel+Fuego · · Score: 1, Informative

      SCO has been under repeated DDOS attacks for months now. Netcraft is most likely showing details on those ones.

    2. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I've not yet received the virus in my email

      What's your address? I can send it to you...

    3. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by T-Punkt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I asked that myself.

      Could be some PCs with badly set clocks. Well, you know those windows users, they don't set their system clocks, have 00:00 blinking on their VCRs, use outlook and click on every fscking single attachements that made it into their mailbox.

    4. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by julesh · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I've not yet received the virus in my email so I can't check the code for myself.

      Good god, man, don't complain when you've been that lucky. I got into the office this morning to find 550 unread messages, mostly copies of this, or messages saying that copies I had supposedly sent hadn't been delivered...

    5. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      > I thought the worm was set to start the DDOS on February 1. So why is SCO
      > showing a DDOS right now?

      I guess some people have been playing with their system clocks to get around lame trial-period software?

    6. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by crawling_chaos · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I got into the office this morning to find 550 unread messages, mostly copies of this, or messages saying that copies I had supposedly sent hadn't been delivered.

      Preach on, brother. I wish some sysadmins would get a clue and realize that with viruses spoofing the From: address, there is no fscking point in sending the "you sent me a virus" panic mail. All it does is bother the wrong people.

      --
      You can only drink 30 or 40 glasses of beer a day, no matter how rich you are.
      -- Colonel Adolphus Busch
    7. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by Thrakkerzog · · Score: 1

      who sets it forward in time?

    8. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by PhilHibbs · · Score: 3, Funny
      00:00 blinking on their VCRs
      There's agreat new solution solution to that problem.
    9. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't it a strange coincidence that the reported DDoS comes at about the same time that Netcraft reports that SCO's server was updated?

    10. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by loucura! · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sorry, that was me. I was trying to find out who wins the Superbowl and what the spread was so I can go bet at my bookie.

      --Joe Sixpack.

      --
      Black and grey are both shades of white.
    11. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by balloonhead · · Score: 1
      Maybe it was meant to be Feb 1-12 last year?

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      This idea was invented by Shampoo.
    12. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by kinnell · · Score: 2, Funny
      I thought the worm was set to start the DDOS on February 1. So why is SCO showing a DDOS right now?

      Due to the speed of the modern information infrastructure, and the method by which this virus distributes itself, a considerable number of copies will have crossed the international dateline several times during transmission. For these, it is indeed February 1st, and therefore these viruses are functioing correctly. Of course a similar number will have crossed in the other direction, so we can expect to see new DDOS attacks on SCO at least until February 5th

      --
      If I seem short sighted, it is because I stand on the shoulders of midgets
    13. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by Pebble · · Score: 0

      Because it's being slashdotted. :)

    14. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by zsau · · Score: 1

      This is the first time I've ever got worms sent to me. It's also in the first month I've ever had more than a couple spams. But that aside, if you want the worm, I can email it to you ... :)

      --
      Look out!
    15. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by mattdm · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I wish some sysadmins would get a clue and realize that with viruses spoofing the From: address, there is no fscking point in sending the "you sent me a virus" panic mail.

      I've been trying to complain to admins about this ever since Klez. You wouldn't believe the abuse I've gotten back -- and I've been very polite and nice. Generally, sites feel that it's adequate to add the newly found spoofing viruses to a don't-mail-notices blacklist after it's "realized" that yet another one can't be trusted. GET A CLUE, people -- you can't trust *viruses* at all.

      The *real* problem is the antivirus software -- notices should only be sent for "known honest" viruses -- if at all. There should be *no* option to send these notices by default. But the antivirus companies *love* this -- they get to send out *millions* of advertisements for the effectiveness of their product, and no one is allowed to call it spam -- even though it *is*.

    16. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by fishbert42 · · Score: 3, Informative

      ... there is no fscking point in sending the "you sent me a virus" panic mail.

      Actually, there is... but in sending an email to others who know your email address. For example, I got 3 messages yesterday which contained this virus. Now, from what I understand, this worm pulls email addresses from one's computer, and sticks those addresses in the 'from' field. One of those emails I received was "from" the United States Air Force Band's Singing Sergeants Yahoo Group. That's pretty specific, so I sent everyone I know (who runs windows) a message saying, basically, that if you know of the Singing Sergeants, or these few other email addresses, then it's likely you have this worm.

      Sending a "you gave me a virus" email to whomever is in the 'from' field is pretty useless, but the above tactic may prove helpful for this particular worm. At the very least, it lets other (possibly less-informed) folks know there's a worm about, and reminds them to practice good email usage (not opening unexpected attachments, etc.) and to update their anti-virus software.

    17. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by h8macs · · Score: 1

      This would be due to the large number of news sites linking to SCO and informing the public of the virus' intent.

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      :-( --- argh. Despair, I owe again. :-b
    18. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by Aidtopia · · Score: 1
      Was the February 1 thing made up? I've not yet received the virus in my email so I can't check the code for myself.

      Careful! Studying the virus code to figure out what it does might be a DMCA violation. ;-)

    19. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by HermanZA · · Score: 1

      Gimme you e-mail address, then I'll send you one.

    20. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by crawling_chaos · · Score: 1
      It also gets them from scraping web sites in the browser cache. If someone visited the Singing Sergeants web site, then the address could have come from there, so the warning is still pretty g-d useless. I've long since disabled it on our e-mail gateway.

      Receiving several hundred copies of a false alarm strikes me as a form of DDOS, not a helpful feature. Some folks still get their e-mail over dialup, you know.

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      You can only drink 30 or 40 glasses of beer a day, no matter how rich you are.
      -- Colonel Adolphus Busch
    21. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by Cecil · · Score: 1, Insightful

      That is like, the silliest thing I have ever heard. If you are not trolling, then I pity your utter lack of thought on the matter.

      The international date line isn't some magical gateway that adds or subtracts from your date. It doesn't work like that.

      Ok, start in Japan on noon at February 1st. Head towards the international dateline. Assume you move at infinite speed, so when you get there it's only the timezone difference, which IIRC is +3 hours from japan, but it's irrelevant whether that 's right or not. So it's Feb 1, 3:00pm on the western side of the dateline. Cross the international dateline, and now it's Jan 31, 4:00pm. Go all the way around half the world now to the prime meridian. The time increases by 12 hours, making it Feb 1 again! At 4:00am. Now go around the world at infinite speed until you get to the international dateline. Cross over it again. It's Jan 31 at 4:00pm again. Continue ad nauseum if you like. It will continue to be either Feb 1 or Jan 31.

      No matter how fast you go, no matter how many times you cross the international dateline, it will not 'wind up' or 'wind down' the date to arbitrary values. Indeed, it exists to prevent exactly that very thing from happening. If the date never changed at the international dateline, then you could continue going around the world in an easterly fashion, and just keep adding +24 hours to the time/date for every time you went around the earth.

      All of this is ignoring the fact that emails MUST include the timezone and offset on every date, so they are able to handle this sort of thing by themselves.

    22. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by Kallahar · · Score: 1

      Perhaps sending an email to the AV company saying "My machine isn't infected, it makes your company look incompetent if it can't figure that out" would be more effective than contacting the company that merely bought the software.

    23. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Preach on, brother. I wish some sysadmins would get a clue and realize that with viruses spoofing the From: address, there is no fscking point in sending the "you sent me a virus" panic mail. All it does is bother the wrong people.
      Yeah? Well I wish moronic Windows users would get a clue, stop opening attachments, disable javascript and html in outlook and start updating virus definitions. All executable attachments hitting our servers are rejected after data, it's upto the sending relay machine what action to take from there. If that means a bounce whoop-de-fucking-doo, tell your ISP to impliment SPF if you don't like it!
    24. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by RollingThunder · · Score: 1

      I think you may want to read this.

    25. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by mattdm · · Score: 1

      Trust me, I've tried both. I got so fed up with the messages from Klez that I went on a little crusade. More people doing it can't hurt, but it's basically a tilting-with-windmills sort of exercise.

    26. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by Ironica · · Score: 1

      Preach on, brother. I wish some sysadmins would get a clue and realize that with viruses spoofing the From: address, there is no fscking point in sending the "you sent me a virus" panic mail. All it does is bother the wrong people.

      I think UCLA finally got a clue. After er... was it Klez? Some big virus, anyway... when I got hundreds of copies of the virus, and hundreds of messages saying "Hey! Don't send viruses!" they now have antivirus software on the mail server that simply doesn't *send* emails with virus-infected attachments. Instead, you get a message that gives you the headers of the email, and a link to where you can view it (along with a username and password that are randomly generated). And I haven't gotten any "Stop sending viruses!" emails since they implemented this system.

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      Don't you wish your girlfriend was a geek like me?
    27. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by Ironica · · Score: 2, Funny

      That is like, the silliest thing I have ever heard. If you are not trolling, then I pity your utter lack of thought on the matter.

      The international date line isn't some magical gateway that adds or subtracts from your date. It doesn't work like that.


      /. really needs a "-1, didn't get the joke" mod... ;-)

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      Don't you wish your girlfriend was a geek like me?
    28. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do you set a clock *that* far off on accident? Even the natural drift because of inaccuracies would take forever to do that. Furthermore, most of the time the manufacturer will have set the system clock before shipping the computer. (and it's right there on the bottom of the screen, you can't get rid of it unless you know what you're doing)

      And I'll have you know, my computer's clock is at least within a few minutes of the correct time, whereas my clock radio is an hour off. Given the choice between "press this button exactly 23 times" and "remember to subtract an hour," I think I'll just be lazy. At least with Windows I don't even have to do that.

      Oh gosh, Windows users are so stupid, huh? No, PEOPLE are stupid. Most stupid people with a computer use Windows. There's a difference.

    29. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by allism · · Score: 1

      Part of the problem is that SCO is being manually slashdotted from people seeing if they've been DDoSed yet.

      The other part of the problem might be that several time synchronization programs use the same dll, which will only fix your clock by 19 days at a time. (Don't ask me why 19 days, it just is.) So, if your clock is set a year ahead, it slowly creeps up (or back) to the right date/time - 19 days at a time. The time sync program that comes with Windows XP uses this, so do several other commercial products. If your time sync program is set to only sync your clock once a day, it could hang out in between Feb 1 and Feb 12 for a long time.

    30. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by milkman_matt · · Score: 1

      No matter how fast you go, no matter how many times you cross the international dateline, it will not 'wind up' or 'wind down' the date to arbitrary values.

      Dammit! this guy had me all excited that all I needed was an airplane and i'd be able to see who wins the superbowl this Sunday so I could make some serious cash...

      -matt

    31. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It doesn't take forever - last week I saw a computer which thought it was running in the 2030s. That was when I also learned that Norton Anti-Virus does no validation on log entries...

    32. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by garwain · · Score: 1

      think about it... 2 slashdot articals about the virus and SCO... This is slashdot, so they are getting a double dose today (and proabaly for the rest of the week, at which point the DDOS will take over.

    33. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have a look at http://www.math.org.il/newworm-digest1.txt

      At the bottom there is a question:
      Has anyone seen the DOS against SCO actually happen?

      And the answer:
      (...) the only activity I can get it to perform related to www.sco.com is to
      resolve the name. (...) I have played with the date, etc, but still no activity directed
      toward www.sco.com. (...)

      So, it doesn't even work?

      However, it will probably be fixed in the next version :)

    34. Re:Something Doesn't Add Up by Ben+Hutchings · · Score: 1

      Actually it's the anti-virus filter writers that should be doing this. The filters have an entry for each virus, and that could include a flag indicating whether the virus forges the From address. Since they haven't done this, I conclude that they're happy to spam us silly with advertising for their filters.

  10. So, for once, Netcraft really confirms? by Pac · · Score: 1

    Is SCO finally dying? Will the two stories a day torture end in silent dismissal?

    1. Re:So, for once, Netcraft really confirms? by budgenator · · Score: 1

      Is SCO dying? I'd say that SCO is the proverbial dead man walking.
      1. their technology is decades old.
      2. any goodwill with end-users has been destroyed before they purchased any IP
      3. any goodwill with developers has been destroyed after they purchased any IP
      4. any IP they purchased has been picked clean of anything valuable, through numerous sales and mergers.
      What we are seeing now is like watching a corparate version of "Faces of Death". They're like the kid in school walking arround with a "kick me" sign taped to his back, except thet put the sign on and are still whining about being kicked.

      --
      Apocalypse Cancelled, Sorry, No Ticket Refunds
  11. spam is next by dkode · · Score: 0

    ok guys, whoever created the worm went about it all wrong...what we really need is to just subscribe every e-mail address at SCO to every pr0n newsletter known to man.

    I know that would piss me off more than any virus.

    --

    Those who trade in their freedom for security, deserve neither.
  12. Killing two ugly birds with one stone by G4from128k · · Score: 4, Funny

    Seems like this is Linux's ultimate weapon of mass destruction because:

    1. The virus makes M$ operating systems look bad.
    2. The DDoS attack goes after every Linux lover's most hated target, SCO.

    But I do feel sorry for the people forced to used Windows by PHBs or who are novice users that don't know better than to run e-mailed executables.

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    Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do.
    1. Re:Killing two ugly birds with one stone by ArseneLupin · · Score: 5, Funny
      Seems like this is Linux's ultimate weapon of mass destruction because:

      Didn't you get it? There are no weapons of mass destruction! It was all made up by Darl and his cronies!

    2. Re:Killing two ugly birds with one stone by ThogScully · · Score: 1, Insightful
      1. The virus makes M$ operating systems look bad.

      No, it makes the hacker community, which the with the marketing power of SCO and Microsoft may as well be synonomous with the OSS or FS communities, look bad. From the layman's perspective viruses aren't the fault of Windows - they are glad Microsoft is around to release patches to fix what the hackers broke.

      2. The DDoS attack goes after every Linux lover's most hated target, SCO.

      Yeah, it does and more than a few people are at least smiling to themselves here that SCO is finally getting punished in some way when they've been doling out the threats, extortion policies, etc for so long seemingly unchallenged. But it's still the wrong way to do it and the right way will come.

      Patience is a virtue. Viruses are more likely to hurt the Linux community than Microsoft. Even in terms of monetary losses, this virus has just pushed my companies bandwidth usage over the monthly maximum - it's gonna cost me and I wouldn't touch a Windows machine with a 10 foot pole.
      -N

      --
      I've nothing to say here...
    3. Re:Killing two ugly birds with one stone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I use linux myself, and I don't mind saying: This doesn't make MS look bad. It doesn't exploit a whole.

      It exploits stupid users who click attachments. This can be prevented by the User-Stupidity-And-Knowledge-Enhancment Patch, V2.0.

    4. Re:Killing two ugly birds with one stone by Pike65 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      1. The virus makes M$ operating systems look bad.

      Actually it's a mass mailer, so all it's doing is making user's look retarded. Again.

      2. The DDoS attack goes after every Linux lover's most hated target, SCO.

      Well yes, it does. But it ain't going to help our cause at all, is it?

      Having said that, I'm going to get me some popcorn and settle down in front of Netcraft >: )

      --
      "If being a geek means being passionate about something, then I pity those who aren't geeks." - Pike65
    5. Re:Killing two ugly birds with one stone by TwistedGreen · · Score: 1

      You mean the linux business, not the community. I'm sure the community is getting a big laugh out of this. I know I am.

    6. Re:Killing two ugly birds with one stone by 4r0g · · Score: 0, Redundant

      This is actually very sad. I only hope that the virus author is not a Linux advocate, as that would make Linux users look very bad. After all, if you're a PHB and someone tells you that "That MS Windows is the cause of all this, let's switch to Linux!", He'll think that "What? To that hacker operating system? NO! Our business will get bad publicity with each DDoS on SCO and maybe our own people get accused for those!"

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      - 4r0g
    7. Re:Killing two ugly birds with one stone by lateral · · Score: 1
      On contrary, this could do Linux a lot of harm. Being anti-SCO and pro-Linux go hand in hand. An anti-SCO worm looks like a pro-Linux worm and it taints the entire open source community.

      It will bring open source and virus writing closer together in peoples' minds. A quick glance up at some of the sad and vidictive posts already on this page will help to re-inforce that impression no end. How depressing.

      L.

    8. Re:Killing two ugly birds with one stone by ThogScully · · Score: 1
      You mean the linux business, not the community. I'm sure the community is getting a big laugh out of this. I know I am.

      Your post is proof that your correction is wrong.
      -N

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      I've nothing to say here...
    9. Re:Killing two ugly birds with one stone by sqlrob · · Score: 1

      No, it makes the hacker community, which the with the marketing power of SCO and Microsoft may as well be synonomous with the OSS or FS communities, look bad. From the layman's perspective viruses aren't the fault of Windows - they are glad Microsoft is around to release patches to fix what the hackers broke.

      Except that there isn't going to be a patch for this that doesn't break Windows functionality or is a primitive AV. This is simply a completely valid Win32 app that idiots run, there's no holes (except between user's ears) being taken advantage of.

    10. Re:Killing two ugly birds with one stone by mtnharo · · Score: 1

      Actually, User-Stupidity-And-Knowledge-Enhancment Patch, V2.0 has been deprecated, in favor of repeated use of Cluestick v2x4. Please update your toolbox accordingly.

    11. Re:Killing two ugly birds with one stone by AoT · · Score: 1

      Well yes, it does. But it ain't going to help our cause at all, is it?


      I wouldn't be so sure about that. If SCO manages to somehow win this case, god forbid, the current and subsequent backlash could serve as a deterent for future litigabts. Even if SCO loses it could get DDoSed into the ground, thus serving as an example. Not the best kind of help for sure, but not completely useless.

      A good analogy would be the Anarchists whom committed property damage at Anti-War protests. Yes they made themselves look bad, but they also brought attention to the protest.

    12. Re:Killing two ugly birds with one stone by Pakaran2 · · Score: 1

      Yeah - but most sane operating systems don't run attachments just by clicking on them. Nor do they download attachments with execute permissions, nor do they give most applications write access to their own executable.

    13. Re:Killing two ugly birds with one stone by welshwaterloo · · Score: 1
      "all it's doing is making user's look retarded"

      woohoo! Let's have a big cheer for our friend the unecessary apostrophe!

    14. Re:Killing two ugly birds with one stone by Pike65 · · Score: 1

      Just consider yourself lucky that I didn't try to use a semi-colon . . .

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    15. Re:Killing two ugly birds with one stone by welshwaterloo · · Score: 1

      ack! you could have someone's eye out with one of those..!

    16. Re:Killing two ugly birds with one stone by ThogScully · · Score: 1

      That's all well and good. But my post is from the perspective of the users out there clicking that link, the ones spreading the virus. Whether it constitutes a virus or not, whether it was written by a malicious hacker or Linus Torvalds, whether it attacks SCO or not... it's not the fault of Microsoft. It's the fault of those "hackers" they hear about on the news that SCO is trying to keep from stealing its IP and Microsoft is trying to keep Windows users safe from.
      -N

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    17. Re:Killing two ugly birds with one stone by cjjjer · · Score: 1

      3. It makes the Linux community look like a bunch of school yard bullies. They don't like something happening to Linux so they hijack clueless users computers to cause trouble to a company they hate. This is one of the many reasons companies probably won't move over to Linux when the community uses gorilla warfare tactics. It only takes a few bad seeds to ruin it for all of us and this is what they are doing.

    18. Re:Killing two ugly birds with one stone by Fryth · · Score: 1

      But it makes Linux users look bad, since they obviously have the motive to do something like this.

  13. This stinks - easy PR for SCO by Captain+Kirk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Within a week, Darl will be equating Linux developers with virus writers - "both are called hackers and both hate me" he'll say and some 'respectable' journalists will report it as true.

    1. Re:This stinks - easy PR for SCO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Within a week, Darl will be equating Linux developers with virus writers - "both are called hackers and both hate me" he'll say and some 'respectable' journalists will report it as true.

      s/hate/despise/g

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    2. Re:This stinks - easy PR for SCO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Works every time. 'Both are Arabs and both hate us.'

    3. Re:This stinks - easy PR for SCO by jc42 · · Score: 1

      Within a week? It's already happening. You can read it here on /., too.

      We should be pointing out a few things here:

      1. We don't know who started this thing. It could be some fanatic linux hacker. It could be a script kiddie in Russia or Brazil. It could be someone at SCO, IBM, Microsoft, or Red Hat. Until we actually find the culprit, any accusations are nothing more than libel.

      2. The agent provocateur is an old PR trick. (If you don't know the term, ask dictionary.com about it.)

      3. It doesn't really reflect badly on Windows users. They are not generally computer experts, true. Why should they be? We don't expect people to be design and manufacturing experts before they buy other products. The real culprit here is the marketing machine that sells computer software with crappy design to unsuspecting customers. Email software should either refuse to execute code in a message, or should clearly warn the user that this is an extremely risky thing to do. If non-expert users are suckered by this, the blame belongs with the supplier of the crappy software.

      4. And, of course, the joke "It couldn't have come from the linux community, because the source isn't available." ;-)

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    4. Re:This stinks - easy PR for SCO by The_Mr_Flibble · · Score: 1

      Well depending on what press they release regarding this will guage my response. If there is no blaming of the linux community I will simply black hole the ip of their website. If there is bad press I won't open it again.

    5. Re:This stinks - easy PR for SCO by billyoc · · Score: 1

      Too late, CNN already has Linux supporters all but convicted: http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/01/27/mydoom .spread/index.html

    6. Re:This stinks - easy PR for SCO by Eastree · · Score: 1

      heh ... have you read the article from CNN yestarday? They already have (to an extent) and today, several of my less than knowledgable about the slightest with computers coworkers did make the connection. It seems something implied strongly enough can work easily ...

  14. ed by ballpoint · · Score: 5, Funny
    but it's always sad to watch someone stoop to this level

    s/is/eir

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    1. Re:ed by zsau · · Score: 1

      sed: -e expression #1, char 7: Unterminated `s' command

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    2. Re:ed by hummassa · · Score: 1

      it's ed, not sed!!!

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    3. Re:ed by mgg4 · · Score: 1

      but it's always sad to watch someone stoop to this level

      s/is/eir

      Obviously there were a few sed/ed geeks out there with mod points today.

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  15. Damn those ignorant anti-virus idiots! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    FFS, if you know that a worm forges the sender address, DON'T send bounces to that address. Worms are relatively easy to filter, but the crap from the virus-scanners comes in seemingly endless variations. Some even have the nerve to advertise their anti-virus solution, followed by a copy of the worm-mail, binary attachment included. Yeah right, moron, you just sent a copy of the worm to me and you expect me to buy your anti-virus product???

    1. Re:Damn those ignorant anti-virus idiots! by piranha(jpl) · · Score: 1
      If you want to curb double-bounces, install SPF. Then bitch about sites that aren't using it. Or would you rather have legitimate mail that triggers poorly-written anti-virus software vanish into the ether?

      Bounces are good.

    2. Re:Damn those ignorant anti-virus idiots! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is doubling the mail traffic to the wrong people in a situation like this good?

    3. Re:Damn those ignorant anti-virus idiots! by rar · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree; people writing worm filters that bounce to forged addresses are as bad as their worm writing counterparts!

      I mean, what happens when user 'joe' gets a couple of "WARNING: You sent me a virus" in their email? They come running to me "just to make sure", and I will have to explain for them how the email protocol works... AGAIN... sigh... for, what is it, the 10:th time that day.

      Here is a hint to people writing these crappy anti-virus/worm filter: make sure you **ONLY** send a bounce IF the detected virus is on A **WHITELIST** for viruses that always send themselves WITHOUT A FORGED SENDER ADDRESS. If you send *any* other bounces, you are a part of the problem -- not the solution...

    4. Re:Damn those ignorant anti-virus idiots! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bounces are fine to your internal hosts. You don't send notifications or viruses/worms to external hosts *ever*. 9 times out of 10 the address is spoofed so you are notifying the wrong person and increasing the already high mail traffic.

    5. Re:Damn those ignorant anti-virus idiots! by rusty0101 · · Score: 1

      I agree, I know that my e-mail address is not on that many people's distribution lists, because I am getting more warnings of the virus, than a I am being the recipient of the virus itself. (two, three copies at most)

      The few systems that include full headers are pointing at three different IP network ranges 135.254.247, 10.150.81, and 216.207.228. The range 10.150.81 is not legitimate on the Internet, which means that there is a system infected within the company or domain that detected the infection, yet the notice was still forwarded to me.

      Evidently some company has not configured some of their virus filters properly. I suspect that we will see this again.

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  16. Maybe, maybe not by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Interesting
    It's still unclear what the real goal of this worm is. While it does DDoS SCO, it also installs a proxy that can be used by spammers. Long after sco.com is smoking rubble, this will probably be relaying Make P3n1s Fast! spam.

    It's too early to call this one. Relax and pass the popcorn.

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    1. Re:Maybe, maybe not by negacao · · Score: 1

      "Make P3n1s Fast!" == "Make Penis Fast!"

      You know, I can't I've gotten that one thus far...

    2. Re:Maybe, maybe not by Cruciform · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not just a proxy, a backdoor.

      Info here.

      It would seem that the real goal is to show how many people are stupid enough to still click on attachments when they have no idea what the fuck they are.

    3. Re:Maybe, maybe not by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Yes, exactly. And after a few days of a misdirection attack on SCO, it could replace itself with a downloaded MyDoom Mk II and do who-knows-what. It's worth noting that most of the anti-spam targets that can be DDoSed have already been DDoSed.

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    4. Re:Maybe, maybe not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      someone should write a worm to infect computers with an irc file server, so we can have untraceable mp3 sharing :P

    5. Re:Maybe, maybe not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      While it does DDoS SCO, it also installs a proxy that can be used by spammers. Long after sco.com is smoking rubble, this will probably be relaying Make P3n1s Fast! spam.

      I don't understand. So Linux users are spammers now too?

    6. Re:Maybe, maybe not by 87C751 · · Score: 1
      It would seem that the real goal is to show how many people are stupid enough to still click on attachments when they have no idea what the fuck they are.
      Which, according to Kapersky, is around 300,000.
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    7. Re:Maybe, maybe not by Snodgrass · · Score: 1
      It would seem that the real goal is to show how many people are stupid enough to still click on attachments when they have no idea what the f**k they are.

      What kills me is that with every single email "virus" that goes around (what is it, like once a month?) the news always says something like "and experts say to just delete the email and don't click on the attachment". So time and time again the general public is told "DO NOT OPEN THE ATTACHMENT", and yet obviously thousands and thousands of people are still doing it!!

      It boggles the mind.

    8. Re:Maybe, maybe not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While it does DDoS SCO, it also ...

      Sco, it ddos does so, also? I scee...

    9. Re:Maybe, maybe not by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      That was written a few days ago. Now there's some doubt that anything will happen. We'll find out tomorrow. (I wonder if that's Feb 1st 00:01 localtime or GMT?)

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    10. Re:Maybe, maybe not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder if that's Feb 1st 00:01 localtime or GMT?

      GMT? OMG!

  17. ummmm a good virus? by k.ellsworth · · Score: 3, Interesting

    is actually, nice to have SCO.com messsed around. just because they will be forced to use LINUX/APACHE to survive the attack... i guess SCO stock will fall, again just because will be needing to hire akamai server just like microsoft did. linux to save their enemies. ironic

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    1. Re:ummmm a good virus? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      is actually, nice to have SCO.com messsed around. just because they will be forced to use LINUX/APACHE to survive the attack

      According to NetCraft, they already do use Linux/Apache on their web server :-)

    2. Re:ummmm a good virus? by internewt · · Score: 1
      The use[1] Linux already, ironically enough.

      [1] Or at least they have in the past, its "unknown" at the moment.

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    3. Re:ummmm a good virus? by BenBenBen · · Score: 1

      If you'd engaged brain before fingers, you'd realise that SCO have been and are running Linux/Apache. Did you expect them to be on IIS?

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  18. I wonder if this DDOS is due to... by calebb · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...millions of people checking sco.com to see if it's still up? or...
    ...computers with clocks that aren't set correctly? or...
    ...the virus analysts misinterpreting the taskmon.exe when they decompiled it?

    1. Re:I wonder if this DDOS is due to... by altair87 · · Score: 0

      I just loaded their page and it's still up....better refresh and check to see if it still loads...yep still up...let me check again....

  19. Re:hmm. by Bigman · · Score: 1

    Yes, I imagine that's why CmdrTaco said
    We mentioned the myDoom Worm just a few hours ago,

    No?

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  20. Not so different from SETI? by orty78 · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is very similar to the SETI@Home project. I'd like to try it out and run it for a while. How and where do I sign up?

    1. Re:Not so different from SETI? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Here's the great thing about it, you don't have to, you get invited!

    2. Re:Not so different from SETI? by julesh · · Score: 3, Funny

      You're in luck. Just run your standard Windows e-mail client, publish your e-mail address on a web page, and start running all those nice screen savers people will e-mail to you. No sign up required.

    3. Re:Not so different from SETI? by chendo · · Score: 1, Funny

      In fact, you can sign up for SCO's Expulsion and Termination Intiative at Home program simply by clicking here. Remember, the more times you click it, the higher your score will be!

      I hope someone comes up with a better acronym ;p

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    4. Re:Not so different from SETI? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      SCO@Home: Help Darl Find That Copyrighted Code.

    5. Re:Not so different from SETI? by internewt · · Score: 1
      This is very similar to the SETI@Home project. I'd like to try it out and run it for a while. How and where do I sign up?

      http://setiathome.berkeley.edu"

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    6. Re:Not so different from SETI? by gotem · · Score: 2, Funny

      maybe you can find extraterrestrial intelligence, but looking for intelligence at SCO? that doesn't seem likely

  21. Conspiricy! by The+Real+Chrisjc · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Maybe this is all just a big conspiricy by SCO to make the open-source community seem like a bunch of immature wotsits? I mean, think of all the positive sco publicity they could milk out of this, not to mention maybe using it in the courts? Trying to associate the open-source community with the scum that writes virus' and worms etc.

    I'll put my tin-foil hat on now I think. .

    Chris

  22. Not sad! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Scripture says that you will reap the fruit that you sow. SCO has pissed in so many pools that I don't think I'm capable of feeling sorry for them any more. Yes, a DDOS is probably illegal, but how many of SCO's recent actions have skirted the bounds of illegality also? They've leveled dozens of accusations at Fortune 500 companies without producing a single shred of evidence to back them up. The Linux community may not have the billions of dollars and huge legal team that Microsoft has, but that does not mean that we are a force to be taken likely. I suspect that SCO is slowly starting to figure this out.

  23. Really, people by dkleinsc · · Score: 1, Funny

    If you really wanted to DoS SCO, why not just use the Slashdot Effect, like this: litigous bastards

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    1. Re:Really, people by Charion · · Score: 1

      Hah, agreed. That would take out sco faster than any else *Rolls Eyes*

    2. Re:Really, people by asyky · · Score: 1

      Maybe I'm slow but I'm just after noticing this

      Yay! Keep up the good work people.

    3. Re:Really, people by dyte · · Score: 0

      Very rarely is spelling important in my book, but, in this case it is.

      Litigious Bastards

      This is not the slashdot effect, it's called a google bomb.

      The slashdot effect is when the "Pygmys with 3 thumbs" support group gets 100k hits/minute because of a post on slashdot and the 486 web server on dial-up is unable to keep up with the load.

      As a side note it worked Im not sure why google is returning caldara.com instead of sco.com, but, thumbs up (however many you have)

  24. According to Symantec... by no_nicks_available · · Score: 3, Informative

    the DOS isn't supposed to start until Feb 1. Maybe this is related to some sort of network "hardening" in preparation. More info

    1. Re:According to Symantec... by coldnight · · Score: 1

      Or it could be that millions of windows machines are out of sync with timeservers and are really quite early in thier attacks.

      I remember a machine I worked on that thought each day was 23:20 long - over the weekend it'd be out of sync. We had to make a sign for it so people would set the time often...

  25. lol... by REBloomfield · · Score: 1

    Netcraft confirms: SCO's servers are dying ;)

    1. Re:lol... by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      I wish we knew a lot about their servers...this would be a great oppertunity to do a real-life stress test of a web server and Apache. Anyone run the latest nmap on them yet? (The one that determines version numbers, etc?) Netcraft's data is incomplete.

    2. Re:lol... by REBloomfield · · Score: 1

      All 1657 scanned ports on www.sco.com (216.250.128.12) are: filtered Too many fingerprints match this host to give specific OS details

    3. Re:lol... by REBloomfield · · Score: 1

      or, with changing some options:

      SInfo(V=3.45%P=powerpc-apple-darwin6.6%D=1/27%Ti me =40167189%0=-1%C=-1)

    4. Re:lol... by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      That doesn't make sense. That means they shut down their web server, any sort of ping response, and any of a plethora of ports one would expect to find. But they didn't shut down the gateway.

      I'm no network guru, but that does seem odd.

  26. Why I think this virus is written by SCO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is possible SCO may have written this virus. After all, a virus writer who truly hates SCO would have written a virus that identifies and disables/attacks SCO boxes on the net so that way companies would be afraid of going with SCO (causing a real impact on SCO financially).

    A virus that targets the sco.com domain only gets them sympathy.

    1. Re:Why I think this virus is written by SCO by fronti · · Score: 1

      hmm, on the other hand, it could be a virus writer, who don't think enough, (like probably all virus writers). and so sco get more publicity. a good thinking virus programmer write a virus which infects sco boxes and not to ddos them. perhaps the auther use a construction kid and in the field "ddos webseite: " he puts in the last company name, read on /.

  27. But, damn it! by Short+Circuit · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is going to be a serious blow to the moral credibility of the OSS community, not just Linux users.

    We seriously need some sort of petition stating we do not support Linux or OSS, but not underhanded tactes like DDOSing and viruses.

    1. Re:But, damn it! by TheTimoo · · Score: 1

      Yeah and instead of Linux, OSS , Viruses and DDOSing we'll make a petition stating we support SCO!!!

      no, wait...

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    2. Re:But, damn it! by Jason+R · · Score: 1

      You meant to say we DO support Linux and OSS, right?

    3. Re:But, damn it! by Short+Circuit · · Score: 0

      Whoops. And I hit preview, too.

    4. Re:But, damn it! by bhtooefr · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You mean we do support Linux and OSS, not we do not support Linux or OSS, right?

      It's at http://petitiononline.com/dontddos

    5. Re:But, damn it! by gaijin99 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      This is going to be a serious blow to the moral credibility of the OSS community, not just Linux users.
      It is only a threat to our credibility if we allow it to be. I'm *REALLY* not trying to derail into an abortion debate here, but its the best example I can think of. The anti-abortion movement, in general, doesn't support clinic bombers and assissins; but clinics still get bombed and doctors still get murdered. So far the anti-abortion movement has quite successfully managed to avoid the actions of this group becoming a blow to their own moral credibility.

      I'd recommend that we on the side of Free Software study the anti-abortion tactics with dealing with such incidents. The first, and most obvious step, is one that was taken last time: immediate and honest sounding disavowel of the actions of the DOSer. Its going to get old for RMS, ESR, Linus, Perens, etc continuously getting out and saying the same thing ("We don't support this, its wrong. We're still right, but the virus writers aren't with us, etc, etc, etc"), but it needs to happen.

      I honestly don't know what the other successfull tactics are. I need to study how the respectable majority in the anti-abortion movement deals with its nutbags. Can anyone think of other movements with similar problems that we should look into?

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    6. Re:But, damn it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Make it a link!

    7. Re:But, damn it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Due to the laws of the Internet, it's invetivable that this will degenerate into an abortion flamewar despite your honest attempt. Besides, the Free Software community would much rather be analogized with the victorious moral causes of Ghandi or Martin Luther King. So, I'll jump in:

      So far the anti-abortion movement has quite successfully managed to avoid the actions of this group becoming a blow to their own moral credibility.

      In THEIR minds, maybe. The pro-choice side has used these attacks to raise tons of money and political support. In many quarters the the "terrorism" on the Anti- side HAS seriously damaged their moral credibility. When you look at the mainstream media, about the only news coverage anti-abortion types get is when someone is sending Anthrax in the mail. Not good.

      I see a lot of people here saying "Well it obviously wasn't ONE OF US" (because we are morally superior and the person who did it isn't). Well, the public at large probably won't see it that way -- the distinctions are all too fine, the denial too blatant. It took a lot of courage for ESR to stand up during the previous DDOS attacks and admit that it *was* "one of us", and that it isn't all fun and games among activist communities.

      (Also, all handguns should be banned, God created the earth in 7 days, and Virus writers are worse than Hitler.)
    8. Re:But, damn it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But the anti abortion nuts do have a reputation as a bunch of mindless, dangerous extremists.

    9. Re:But, damn it! by roystgnr · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Can anyone think of other movements with similar problems that we should look into?

      The Palestinians, maybe? They're not all suicide bombers, but some people don't seem to make the distinction. The lesson there seems to be to stay the hell away from morally questionable leaders (like Arafat), because your whole community will be tarred with the same brush.

    10. Re:But, damn it! by liquidsin · · Score: 1

      I need to study how the respectable majority in the anti-abortion movement deals with its nutbags.

      They have them cut off so they can't knock up anyone in the first place. *rimshot*

      Thanks, I'm here all week. Try the fish.

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    11. Re:But, damn it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd recommend that we on the side of Free Software study the anti-abortion tactics with dealing with such incidents. The first, and most obvious step, is one that was taken last time: immediate and honest sounding disavowel of the actions of the DOSer. Its going to get old for RMS, ESR, Linus, Perens, etc continuously getting out and saying the same thing ("We don't support this, its wrong. We're still right, but the virus writers aren't with us, etc, etc, etc"), but it needs to happen.

      And then we go blow up SCO's headquarters, right?

    12. Re:But, damn it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean the Israelis, who bulldoze homes (and American students), erect Nazi-era walls, use journalists as target practice, violate UN charters, and slaughter thousands of innocent Palestinians.

      Mods: If this is flamebait, then so is the parent. Put down your agenda for a moment and open your eyes to the truth.

    13. Re:But, damn it! by gaijin99 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The Palestinians, maybe? They're not all suicide bombers, but some people don't seem to make the distinction
      Looking at PR failures is useful. The Palestinian movement is definately a PR failure, you say the word "Palestinian" and the general public thinks "Suicide Bomber"... [footnote] I don't think that Arafat is solely responsible for this PR failure, but who knows? So, back to the question at hand: what did they do wrong that we can do right?

      Because if people say "Free Software" and the general public thinks "Virus writers" we're definately worse off. So far our "leaders" (if such a term can be used with regards to people like us) have done a pretty good job of condemning the nutbags on our side, even admitting that they are (theoretically at least) on our side. Is that all the Palestinians can teach us here? Condemn the bad guys quickly and unambigiously?

      .

      FOOTNOTE: To try and avoid derails: I'm not saying that its right for the general public to think "Suicide Bomber" when they hear the word Palestinian, I'm just saying that they do. The ethics and rightness of the Palestinian movement isn't the topic I'm trying to raise, the fact that its an enormous PR failure is.

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    14. Re:But, damn it! by roystgnr · · Score: 1
      If this is flamebait, then so is the parent.

      The parent, if I must point it out myself, made a statement which was sympathetic to the Palestinians, didn't mention the Israelis, and made an analogy which fit in with the thread of discussion. Your posts ignore the thread of discussion (which is: "How do other groups deal with the danger of being associated with their most spectacularly immoral members?"), and as far as I can tell you were merely compelled by an urge to make sure that nobody mentions atrocities committed by Palestinians without also mentioning that atrocities have been committed by Israelis.

      That's great, and I'm glad that you've proven that the Yooks are more evil than the Zooks, but nobody here wants to talk about Middle East politics right now except insofar as they relate to the on-topic question which, again, is: "How do other groups deal with the danger of being associated with their most spectacularly immoral members?".

      You could probably make a contribution to that question (at least as a cautionary example, since your statement lumps "the Israelis" into one evil category just as I claimed other people do with "the Palestinians"), but you may have to "put down your agenda" first.

      Just to make things crystal clear:
      • Nobody wants to play "Whose side is more evil!" right now; not with abortion, not with Middle East conflict, not with anything. We are using these examples as analogies.
      • Everybody knows that people on both sides of the Israel-Palestine conflict have done evil things.
      • Everybody (I hope including you) understands that many of the people on both sides have nothing to do with the self-appointed (and even in many cases the elected) representatives of their societies that commit those evils.
      • The topic of discussion is: how do the more rational members of a group prevent themselves from being unfairly associated with evil individuals in that group.
    15. Re:But, damn it! by jrockway · · Score: 1

      This post is directed at all the posts like the parent. Basically, I don't think this hurts the Linux community. Imagine that I use Windows (ha!) or code for M$ (also ha!). Then I go and murder fifteen people. Does that reflect poorly upon me? Yes! Does that reflect poorly on M$? No. It's none of their business if I kill people. That's MY problem. Likewise, if some rogue Linux coder/user/hacker DDoSes SCO, that has nothing to do with Linux. So the Linux community doesn't like SCO. No fucking shit. They're trying to steal our OS, the ones we (not me, but you know what I mean) wrote! So some Linux d00d h4x0rz SCO. Too bad. He can have fun in jail. HE did it (wrote the virus), not the "OSS Community", right?

      The writer goes to jail, the OSS community moves on. Big deal. You can't jail a "community" just because someone targets something they hate. If anti-slash.org goes down should CmdrTaco be blamed? No.

      Enough examples, yet? :) I'm just saying that the actions of one should not reflect upon the community. And if they do, who cares? What's going to happen? Nobody will buy Linux anymore? :-)

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    16. Re:But, damn it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hopefully ESR et al, won't end up looking like Arafat, who "strongly condemns" every suicide bombing in Israel. Yes, it does start to get tired.

    17. Re:But, damn it! by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 1


      So far the anti-abortion movement has quite successfully managed to avoid the actions of this group becoming a blow to their own moral credibility.


      A very interesting point. Even more interesting because I personally associate these actions very strongly with the anti-abortion movement. In my own perception, they have lost considerable moral ground with these actions - even if they are the actions of a very minor and fringe group.

      This perception may be entirely unfair. But there it is. There may be something interesting to discover in it as I hash out why this perception exists (assuming it is inacurate).

      One possible data point is the press. I've been exposed to news on clinic bombings, shootings, web sites with kill lists, harboring fugitives, etc. And I see these as activities wholely associated with the movement - whether that is accurate or not.

      Whether Open Source get's tagged with being DoS vigilanties or not may rest entirely on how the tech and mainstream media picks up this story. So far, its been fairly quiet on the DoS aspect.
    18. Re:But, damn it! by mod_parent_down · · Score: 1
      This is going to be a serious blow to the moral credibility of the OSS community, not just Linux users.

      Hmmm... AFAIK, the virus is closed source. However, it could have been developed twice as fast, at half the cost with better reliability if only they'd bothered to ask us.

    19. Re:But, damn it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You mean the Israelis, who bulldoze homes (and American students), erect Nazi-era walls, use journalists as target practice, violate UN charters, and slaughter thousands of innocent Palestinians.

      Mods: If this is flamebait, then so is the parent. Put down your agenda for a moment and open your eyes to the truth.

      You're a complete asshole -- in every way. The fact that you're either unable or unwilling to realize your assholish tendencies makes you even more of an asshole...asshole

    20. Re:But, damn it! by Blkdeath · · Score: 1
      I'd recommend that we on the side of Free Software study the anti-abortion tactics with dealing with such incidents. The first, and most obvious step, is one that was taken last time: immediate and honest sounding disavowel of the actions of the DOSer. Its going to get old for RMS, ESR, Linus, Perens, etc continuously getting out and saying the same thing ("We don't support this, its wrong. We're still right, but the virus writers aren't with us, etc, etc, etc"), but it needs to happen.

      It may, however, be a boon for them to do so atleast once on 'official record' (eg; the media. {sigh} ).

      You have to consider that the people writing/spreading these worms are, presumably, firmly entrenched in the OSS camp. If the leaders of said camp were to speak out against it, suddenly they're doing things that go directly against the wishes and desires of the very men they look up to.

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    21. Re:But, damn it! by Ironica · · Score: 1

      Basically, I don't think this hurts the Linux community. Imagine that I use Windows (ha!) or code for M$ (also ha!). Then I go and murder fifteen people. Does that reflect poorly upon me? Yes! Does that reflect poorly on M$? No.

      But if you go around serially murdering OSS developers? That might.

      If your actions are not targeted, no worries. If they are, then people will draw conclusions in the absence of information.

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      Don't you wish your girlfriend was a geek like me?
    22. Re:But, damn it! by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      Not to mention that the news always uses the negative prefix "anti" to refer to the pro-life movement and the positive prefix "pro" to refer to the pro-choice movement. It would be interesting to see a newscast one day that used the words pro-life and anti-life, instead of pro-choice and anti-abortion. Of course, it would probably only air on the 700 club.

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      If you are not allowed to question your government then the government has answered your question.
    23. Re:But, damn it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This was all hashed out a decade or more ago, so I kinda doubt you've seen "pro" or "anti" anywhere in the mainstream media. They are usually called "Abortion Rights Supporters/Opponents".

    24. Re:But, damn it! by ManoMarks · · Score: 1

      Shhhh! Don't meantion the abortion issue. You might as well have brought up Nazis...Oh damn

      --

      That's gotta fit into your schema somewhere

    25. Re:But, damn it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hehe, u must be old european..... don't worry not being modded up, this is not the new europeans humour :)

    26. Re:But, damn it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. If that's true, then you're retarded.

    27. Re:But, damn it! by MC_Cancer_Pants · · Score: 1

      But you see, Women getting abortions aren't running through hospitals trying to kill babies of women who wanted to have their babies. the prolifers haven't really taken any aggressive stances against people who want to have their babies. I think that you can be a self-respecting Open-Source advocate and take a primal he-said/she-said stance on the SCO debate. It's when people start trying to control your life that the noble stance is to attack the oppressors, even unjustly. I cite the American Revolution as an example.

    28. Re:But, damn it! by psiphre · · Score: 1

      damn you! i almost spat water all over my laptop...

      why isn't this modded funny?

  28. dupe by CGP314 · · Score: 1, Informative

    Here is the origional story on slashdot:

    There is a new virus out by the name of Novarg which can infect all Windows versions from 95 to XP. It has two interesting features - first, in addition to mass mailing, it also distributes itself via the P2P network Kazaa. Second, it can perform a denial-of-service against www.sco.com. Details at Symantec and F-Secure, although neither seems to have finished their analysis." Other readers have sent in links to coverage at CNET and Security Response, and Russ Nelson provides a sample message.

    So tell me again, what new information did we learn between now and then. Looks like slashdot just loves SCO stories to me, even if they are repeats.

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  29. Oh man by Abit667 · · Score: 1

    Even the windows noobs are owning SCO now.

  30. I wish people would stop with the DoSing of SCO by mewyn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I hate SCO as much as the next guy, but doing a DoS attack on them is not the answer. Sure, they are a bunch of low-life scumbags that want to lock up everything, and have a chunk of the profit, but doing massively illegal acts like this make the whole OSS and free software communities look like a bunch of script kiddies. This makes it very hard for us to take the moral high-ground here when it looks like we are doing this crap.

    Mewyn Dy'ner

    1. Re:I wish people would stop with the DoSing of SCO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do unto others...

      They called down the thunder, and now they're gonna get it!

  31. SCO Reichstagsbrand! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, I know, Godwyn will turn around in his grave, but it needed to be said!

  32. New tactics? by CaptainAlbert · · Score: 4, Funny


    Seems like it's about time SCO came up with a new business model. Here's my suggestion:

    FROM: Mr. Darl McBride
    Santa Cruz Organisation
    Lindon, Utah

    Dear Sir:

    I have been requested by the Santa Cruz Organisation to contact you for assistance in resolving a matter. The Santa Cruz Organisation has recently concluded a large number of dubious security trades. These pump-and-dump operations have immediately produced moneys equalling US$75,000,000. The Santa Cruz Organisation is desirous of setting up business in other parts of the world, however, because of certain regulations of the U.S. Government, it is unable to move these funds to another region.

    Your assistance is requested as a non-U.S. citizen to assist the Santa Cruz Organisation in moving these funds out of the U.S. If the funds can be transferred to your name, in your Swedish account, then you can forward the funds as directed by the Santa Cruz Organisation. In exchange for your accomodating services, the Santa Cruz Organisation would agree to allow you to retain 10%, or US$7.5 million of this amount.

    However, to be a legitimate transferee of these moneys according to U.S. law, you must hold at least one license for Santa Cruz Organisation Intellectual Property, which are available at a cost of US$699.

    If it will be possible for you to assist us, we would be most grateful. We suggest that you meet with us in person in Lindon, and that during your visit I introduce you to the representatives of the Santa Cruz Organisation.

    Please call me at your earliest convenience. Time is of the essence in this matter; very quickly the U.S. Government will realize that the Federal Reserve is maintaining this amount on deposit, and attempt to levy certain depository taxes on it.

    Yours truly, etc.

    Darl McBride

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    These sigs are more interesting tha
    1. Re:New tactics? by zhenlin · · Score: 2, Funny

      Santa Cruz Operation is now known as Tarantella, and is not the SCO Group, that is resposible for The FiaSCO.

  33. YESSSSSSS. by -Maurice66- · · Score: 0, Funny

    Where can I download the virus?

    I'll do everything to bug sco.

    M

  34. Link Please... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Certainly a story about a DDOS of SCO deserves a link.

  35. My conclusion by Vintermann · · Score: 1

    Obviously there isn't a "linux guy" behind this, at least not anyone marginally into the open source/free software philosophy.
    Also, I don't believe in conspiracy theories. You know what I mean.

    Lately, we've seen worms released by spammers in order to increase their zombie hordes. This worm sets up a backdoor, I think spreading spam is the main reason it's been set loose. The punch at SCO is probably just to draw attention from this, and to annoy antispammers running linux (most do).

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    1. Re:My conclusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had a thought about this - if the spammers are in league with the virus writers, what better way to preserve their favorite platform than to get Linux slandered as a 'hacker OS'??

    2. Re:My conclusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      First of all, with 95% of the installed base, spammers don't have to worry about Windows going away any time soon.

      Also, I would think that most "High Volume Email Providers" (spam or no) are using Linux or some form of Unix.

  36. Funny, I think: by cockroach2 · · Score: 5, Informative

    On the bottom of the netcraft report you can see an OS history of www.sco.com - apparently they switched from SCO UNIX to Linux in August 2002...

    1. Re:Funny, I think: by DarkDust · · Score: 1

      On the bottom of the netcraft report you can see an OS history of www.sco.com - apparently they switched from SCO UNIX to Linux in August 2002...

      Yes, saw that too... and I always thought SCO will redeem us from the evil called Open Source ;-) I'd really like to hear McBride's comment on that fact ! :-)

    2. Re:Funny, I think: by D-Cypell · · Score: 2, Funny

      apparently they switched from SCO UNIX to Linux in August 2002...

      Remember, SCO cant see the distinction!

    3. Re:Funny, I think: by clarkc3 · · Score: 3, Funny
      On the bottom of the netcraft report you can see an OS history of www.sco.com - apparently they switched from SCO UNIX to Linux in August 2002...

      I'm sure they just gave themselves a license and wrote off the $699 on their taxes as a business expense ;)

    4. Re:Funny, I think: by zsau · · Score: 1

      Yeah, so? They own the IP

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    5. Re:Funny, I think: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shame!

      A self-respecting geek with a decent /. code that does not include a link to make it easier for us lazy asses!

    6. Re:Funny, I think: by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 1

      They most likely installed software that masks the actual server name or configured their server to report Apache on Linux in the host field. SCO Unix and Linux both have known exploits, but using a Linux exploit on a SCO Unix machine won't be very successful.

      I actually saw a company that sells software for IIS that does this. Funny that they themselves admit that Apache is more secure than IIS....

      However, it's a bit obvious what the server software should be if it's called www.sco.com...

  37. This injures our reps, not SCO's by Artifex · · Score: 5, Insightful

    SCO's Information Ministry can just point to this and claim more evil Linux users are trying to destroy the software business, etc.

    We're right, and we know it. No self-respecting geek would stoop to participating in a DDOS in general, not to mention one against someone/something we consider to be morally bankrupt. We know that we can only claim the moral high road only if we actually stick to the high road... right?

    It would be really interesting to find out if it's just some kids behind it, who aren't aware of the difference between right and wrong, or whether it's an entity who has a vested interest in making us look bad...

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    Get off my launchpad!
    1. Re:This injures our reps, not SCO's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So how many IT guys got burned in the .COM boom? and their CEOs/Managers are still living in their millions, but the coders are living of peanuts or basements back at their parents?

      Hmmm

      Im supprised there isnt an all out WW3 on the net making virus's that SELL everyones etrade accounts and BUY useless stocks like yahoo to FRUG up the market.

    2. Re:This injures our reps, not SCO's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck the "moral" high ground. Morals are just in your head anyways. I can sleep just fine knowing these a-holes are gonna get what's coming to them.

      I'd congratulate whoever wrote this virus if it weren't for the fact that it's plugging up mailservers all over the place..

  38. Re:Please, stop it with the "holier than thou"... by turtlexit · · Score: 2, Insightful
    This is simply, dumb. In addition to DDoS'ing SCO, the worm reportedly installs a backdoor, giving full access to the computer. We all know what this means... possible stolen identities, banking information, spam relays, new targeted DDoS attacks, etc.

    No worm is a good worm, even if it does happen to also attack the (other) company we all love to hate.

  39. replies by Mieckowski · · Score: 1

    OK, basically all the replies will be: 1) SCO should die! I want the virus! or 2) Viruses are bad! and illeagal! I guess the article is informative if any WINDOWS user on /. is dumb enough to open an executable attachment, but as far as "news for nerds" is concerned, this seems just like another unessecary SCO story.

  40. Reminds me of a joke... by mirko · · Score: 4, Funny
    A young boy walks into a whorehouse dragging a crushed frog on a string. He goes up to the madam and says, " I'd like to have the service of one of your young ladies, but she's gotta have herpes."

    The madam, taken aback by the boy, asks him, "Little boy, why on earth would you want to ruin your life at such an early age?"

    The boy says, "I don't want to explain, Either you help me out or I'll go somewhere that will!"

    The madam figures his money is better spent here than somewhere else, and takes him into the back to meet his lady.

    About an hour later the boy, still dragging the frog, tries to pay for his time.

    "Keep your money", said the Madam, "but I've just got to know why a boy your age wants herpes so badly. Won't you please tell me?"

    The boy takes a deep breath and sighs. "Ma'am, you see this frog? When I go home tonight, mom and dad are going out, and the babysitter will come over. And the babysitter will get the herpes. Then mom and dad will come home, dad will take the babysitter home, and dad will get herpes. When mom and dad go to bed tonight, mom will get herpes. Tomorrow, I'll go to school, dad will go to work, and the milkman will get herpes.
    And the milkman,
    " the boy sobbed, "the milkman is the son of a bitch who ran over my frog!"


    Now, with a proper sed'ing :
    A young skr1pt k1dd13z walks into a whorehouse dragging a crushed computer on a string. He goes up to the spammer and says, " I'd like to have the service of one of your young bulkers, but she's gotta have MyDoom."

    The spammer, taken aback by the skr1pt k1dd13z, asks him, "Little skr1pt k1dd13z, why on earth would you want to ruin your life at such an early age?"

    The skr1pt k1dd13z says, "I don't want to explain, Either you help me out or I'll go somewhere that will!"

    The spammer figures his money is better spent here than somewhere else, and takes him into the back to meet his bulker.

    About an hour later the skr1pt k1dd13z, still dragging the computer, tries to pay for his time.

    "Keep your money", said the spammer, "but I've just got to know why a skr1pt k1dd13z your age wants MyDoom so badly. Won't you please tell me?"

    The skr1pt k1dd13z takes a deep breath and sighs. "Spammer, you see this computer? When I go home tonight, proxy server and exchange server are going out, and the mail gateway will come over. And the mail gateway will get the MyDoom. Then proxy server and exchange server will come home, exchange server will take the mail gateway home, and exchange server will get MyDoom. When proxy server and exchange server go to bed tonight, proxy server will get MyDoom. Tomorrow, I'll go to school, exchange server will go to work, and Darl will get MyDoom.
    And Darl,
    " the skr1pt k1dd13z sobbed, "Darl is the son of a bitch who ran over my computer!"
    --
    Trolling using another account since 2005.
    1. Re:Reminds me of a joke... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      herpes (presumably HSV2) is far from "life ruining". If you have to get a viral STD, it's definitely the one to have. It mostly leaves you alone, and it doesn't kill you.

    2. Re:Reminds me of a joke... by rizzo420 · · Score: 1

      it can't be cured and it shows up every now and then making it very uncomfortable down there... so it's life ruining in the sense that it stays with you forever showing symptoms occasionally.

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    3. Re:Reminds me of a joke... by dspfreak · · Score: 2, Funny

      But that's the price you have to pay if you want to get nekkid with one of those hot chicks in those flowery little dresses that ride around on bikes and tire swings and stuff in the commercials. Mmmm... herpes.

      --
      "Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions." -- G. K. Chesterton
    4. Re:Reminds me of a joke... by Blackknight · · Score: 1

      That joke isn't even funny.

    5. Re:Reminds me of a joke... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ill kick u in the nuts

    6. Re:Reminds me of a joke... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      he did not even say it was.
      and I agree it should not have been modded as funny but rather as "insightful" as it gives an actual example of what our skr1pt k1dd13 is playing with.

    7. Re:Reminds me of a joke... by ManoMarks · · Score: 1

      I agree, the original joke wasn't even funny, which makes the joke based on it not funny.

      --

      That's gotta fit into your schema somewhere

  41. Transmission require OE? by teamhasnoi · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Does this virus use Outlook Express to infect others or does it have it's own mail implementation? I've been looking around and see no mention.

    I'd like to know how worried I should be about Windows machines with Thunderbird installed.

    This may be the last straw. I've been thinking about moving all 3-4 of my work machines (p200) to Beos with Fire/Thunderbird and Gobe Productive - I'm tired of the viruses, and I'm tired of maintaining Windows.

    1. Re:Transmission require OE? by codepunk · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes it does use outlook (the typhoid mary of the internet) to spread itself. I suggest you stick with windows as being a Linux administrator is a very lonely job. It is very much like being a Maytag repairman, nobody ever calls.

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    2. Re:Transmission require OE? by bonius_rex · · Score: 1

      basically, you can GET the worm (if you click on the attachment) but it doens't mass-mail everyone in your thunderbird address book.

      (Yes, I know, becuase I, like a big dummy, opened the attachment in Thunderbird. (/me hangs head in shame).

      There are directions on Symantec's web page for removing it. (basically a few registry tweaks.)

    3. Re:Transmission require OE? by rbolkey · · Score: 1

      Yes.

      Outlook, the most innovative virus propogation application ever created.

    4. Re:Transmission require OE? by the+pickle · · Score: 1

      Does this virus use Outlook Express to infect others or does it have it's own mail implementation? I've been looking around and see no mention.

      Actually, the two articles I read (linked here in the story -- I actually RTFA for once!) both said the virus uses its own SMTP engine, not Outkook's.

      Of course, just because THIS one doesn't use Outkook doesn't mean the NEXT worm d'jour won't. So you should take this opportunity to dump Windows anyway.

      p

    5. Re:Transmission require OE? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      says the teen running two linux boxes from his bedroom. here's a wakeup call asshole, if you're running linux or windows in a *large* environment, it won't matter which you're using, you *will* get calls, and plenty of them.

    6. Re:Transmission require OE? by codepunk · · Score: 1

      Sure, you just keep telling yourself that AC. I did not get a single call about a worm this morning...

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    7. Re:Transmission require OE? by hetairoi · · Score: 1

      I think you mean it_can_use Outlook. It's just an attachment, so any mail client can be used to infect yourself with this virus. I could telnet to my mail server, download the attachment to my hdd and run it and I'd be infected. I'd also be an idiot, but that doesn't mean I'm running Lookout.

      Bottem line, don't run attachements unless you know what it is, and even then I'd scan it with an updated virus scannner.

      And since you mentioned it and didn't get modded off-topic I'll add that I know plenty of linux admins who stay very, very busy and are constantly getting phone calls. Linux doesn't automatically solve all your problems, it just gives you a different set.

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    8. Re:Transmission require OE? by codepunk · · Score: 1

      I dont know what you are running but if I telnet the attachment to my machine I still will not get infected by anything, unless of course I went out of my way and tried to run it under wine...

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    9. Re:Transmission require OE? by hetairoi · · Score: 1

      no kidding, you mean I can't infect a linux box with a windows virus?

      I mean that this virus isn't email-client specific, any email client that allows a user to download an attachment and run it on a windows machine will be infected. You don't have to be using Outlook to become infected and transmit the virus to others. It will try to use Outlook and your mail server if it can, but if it can't it will setup it's on smtp on your machine.

      That was my point.

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    10. Re:Transmission require OE? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldnt go that far. My company works our machines into the ground so there's always a problem creeping up here and there. I mean I love linux and all but some of its software is still buggy among not so stellar driver support thus I dont lead a lonely resistance as you. God I wish I can especially on a day like today where I have my usual problems plus the virus to take care.

  42. I don't get the joke... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm just a Windows user and I don't get the joke. Can somebody please explain it to me?

    1. Re:I don't get the joke... by strmcrw · · Score: 1

      > I'm just a Windows user and I don't get the joke. Can somebody please explain it to me? Perl Syntax : s/a/b means replace a with b

    2. Re:I don't get the joke... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      `s/OLD/NEW/' Substitute NEW for the first occurrence of OLD in the event line. Any delimiter may be used in place of `/'. The delimiter may be quoted in OLD and NEW with a single backslash. If `&' appears in NEW, it is replaced by OLD. A single backslash will quote the `&'. The final delimiter is optional if it is the last character on the input line.
      Seriosuly, all you had to do was "man bash". Oh wait...
    3. Re:I don't get the joke... by Kredal · · Score: 3, Informative

      the s/foo/bar command will replace all instances of "foo" with "bar". In this example, it changes "this" to "their".

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    4. Re:I don't get the joke... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for asking. I didn't get it either. Fortunately, it's just as funny after it's been explained; most jokes aren't.

  43. Microsoft probably wrote this by Theovon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This virus was probably written by some dingbat who KNOWS what kind of harm it will cause to the Free Software community.

    Yeah, I know it's far fetched, and probably untrue, but some people need to grow up and realize that the only useful weapons against SCO are FACTS.

    Either that or a big budget with which to purchase them... but their IP is so worthless, who would buy them? :)

    1. Re:Microsoft probably wrote this by Vintermann · · Score: 1

      Microsoft are not the only ones hating linux. Your average moscow spammer probably hates it too, and spammers have been known to release viruses in order to get more relays. A lot more probable IMHO. Microsoft wouldn't do anything that dangerous unless the rewards greatly outweighed the risks, and even if the free software movement gets a lot of bad press, it won't be killed.

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    2. Re:Microsoft probably wrote this by Nonillion · · Score: 1

      Or it was written by the anti-virus software people to boost their sagging sales...

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  44. The SCO Conspiracy by Hackie_Chan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That's pretty funny: If SCO claims this virus contain portions of their code -- they could sue the pants off everyone who has the virus on their machines. Imagine milions and millions of people who have illegally obtained their property on to their machines... They could make riches off of this!

    --

    What's so bad about being lazy? What if there was a war and nobody showed up?
  45. They do get something. They get spam relays. by Vintermann · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think the real purpose of this worm is to enable spammers to work more comfortably and safely. The attack at SCO conveniently distracts attention from this, and on to the spam-hating linux community.

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    xkcd is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
    1. Re:They do get something. They get spam relays. by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 0

      I have to agree. Creating the DDoS on SCO really doesn't accomplish much. I mean, whose service is really being denied? Does anyone really care anymore if the SCO site is not accessible? (Granted, the upstream ISPs do care about the waste of bandwidth).

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    2. Re:They do get something. They get spam relays. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There has been numerous Score 5 posts here on slashdot where some kid suggests running a wget script against www.sco.com, so some people obviously think it's important. (There are probably the same assclowns who think Netcraft statistics are deeply meaningful.)

  46. Calm before the storm? by Zocalo · · Score: 4, Interesting
    According to the various AV vendors the worm isn't due to start the DDoS of sco.com until February the first, which seems to be a fairly unanimous opinion. If that's right then that spike on NetCraft's graphs isn't the DDoS, it's just all the people who read AV stories and alerts on the AV and News sites clicking on links - nothing more than a generalised Slashdotting.

    The people who read these AV stories do not represent the "average" user who is more inclined to fall for the worm's social engineering. Nor would they be opening the "63 connections per second" to sco.com being touted by the AV vendors for that matter. I suspect that blip is going to pale into insignificance compared to the amount of traffic they are going to get come February. It's a fair bet that SCO will be denouncing the "Linux hackers" as being the culprits in numerous press releases as well, they may be right on that, they may not, but it's sure as hell going to get them a lot of sympathy.

    This isn't going to help OSS's case at all, and the only saving grace is the February 12th cut off. Then again, I've yet to see anything about what happens to the port the worm listens on come the deactivation date, or what instructions that port might accept.

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    1. Re:Calm before the storm? by overcome · · Score: 1

      According to Sophos' analysis, the port will remain open after February 12.

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  47. Another SCO Story...Move Along by sepluv · · Score: 1
    Another (not that interesting) SCO story but I'm bored so I'll comment. [BTW, has SCO given any indication of what they are moaning about yet?]

    As there is not much to say about the story itself (except it will probably fuel Darl's belief that the whole wroled is out to get him -- when vice versa may be true), I thought I'd say how childish most of the other (go-get-SCO) responses are -- probably not surprising as most sensible peeps have got bored of SCO, and everything there is to say on this story is in the article -- not that that has ever stopped /.ers before.

    Whoever is responsible for the worm is a very pathetic individual (whether they thought it would help or hinder SCO and whether they are from SCO, IBM, Novell, RedHat, the OSS/free-software movement or are totally unconnected); they are just trying to stir up trouble in something that should be solved through discussion (or -- if need be -- lawsuits) not this sort of immoral behaviour.

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  48. Re: Understand though... by Quantum-Sci · · Score: 2, Informative

    The hammering of SCO doesn't start until Feb 1 though. Supposed to be Feb 1-12.

    I received three of these yesterday, and it's been ages since I received anything with a virus. Must be massive.

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  49. OK.. This is wrong on so many levels... by herrvinny · · Score: 4, Insightful

    MyDoom Windows Worm DDoSing SCO

    But it's not DDOSing now. The attack is set to begin February 1st and end on the 12th.

    The virus affects computers running Windows versions 95, 98, ME, NT, 2000 and XP.... The virus also copies itself to the Kazaa download directory on PCs, on which the file-sharing program is loaded.

    I'm thinking, wow, whoever wrote this covered all the bases. He/She even got the Kazaa people.

    Anyway, why don't ISPs, just for the time being, ban connections to SCO.com? It's not like it's a huge Internet portal or anything, and us geeks who actually need access to the site can just set up a mirror or something.

    1. Re:OK.. This is wrong on so many levels... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why don't ISPs get their collective fingers out and start doing egress filtering so that these actions are traceable?

    2. Re:OK.. This is wrong on so many levels... by kannibul · · Score: 1

      "Anyway, why don't ISPs, just for the time being, ban connections to SCO.com? It's not like it's a huge Internet portal or anything, and us geeks who actually need access to the site can just set up a mirror or something."

      Simple: It would only to serve to show how effective these viruses are. Kind of like a sick twist on martyrdom. It would encourage more people to make viruses to do the same thing, so that their "goal" (however moronic and insignificant it is) can be easily achieved, perhaps even with bunk code.

    3. Re:OK.. This is wrong on so many levels... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And what would they do with the results?! Let's see:

      You stupid moron, you got a worm, go to jail

      One better solution is ALL (since some already have) ISPs have FREE email virus scan. The money they spend in the anti-virus would be money saved in bandwith.

    4. Re:OK.. This is wrong on so many levels... by tomhudson · · Score: 1
      poster wrote:
      One better solution is ALL (since some already have) ISPs have FREE email virus scan.
      And when a new virus comes out, they have to take the virus scanner off-line until they update it to avoid liability ("you scanned my files and I STILL got a virus") - like today - Yahoo's email virus scanner s off-line, so you can download copies of the virus to your linux box. Here's what I've gotten so far today (multiple copies of some):
      1. doc.zip 22877 bytes
      2. body.zip 22790 bytes
      3. nbbq.zip 22640 bytes
      4. text.scr 22528 bytes
      Or you could click here to see if the litigious bastards are still up
    5. Re:OK.. This is wrong on so many levels... by Tuxedo+Jack · · Score: 1

      They missed two critical things in Windows if they'd really wanted to do damage - spread to and from network shares and use malformed HTML/Java like the CWS hijacker. If they'd done that, they'd have hit _every_ ACU (average clueless user) who runs Windows.

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  50. DDoS by savagedome · · Score: 4, Informative

    Note that the DDoS attack is timed to be performed between 1st and 12th Feb, 2004.

    1. Re:DDoS by MImeKillEr · · Score: 1

      Yes, and if you look at

      http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/01/27/vir us sco.png

      You'll see that it went off line two days ago.

      Also, on that same page (http://news.netcraft.com/)

      "Computers infected by the fast-spreading MyDoom e-mail virus will attempt to launch a distributed denial of service attack (DDoS) on the sco.com web site on Feb. 1, according to updated analyses by Symantec and F-Secure. Several hours after the virus began spreading at about 9 p.m. GMT, the SCO web site was offline briefly. " (emphasis mine)

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    2. Re:DDoS by savagedome · · Score: 1

      Could be due to a lot of people just checking out sco.com out of curiosity too.

      Also, it would not surprise me that SCO people took it offline just to get some sympathy/good PR.

  51. Film at 11. by AVee · · Score: 1

    Well, since SCO seems to prefer a world full of Windows, why else whould they try to destroy Linux, they are given a sneak peek of what it whould bring them. This will cause them to give MS back all the money they got from them, because they are enabling terrorist actions against them. It is a Windows virus after all. They will find out how wrong they were. They will convert and tomorrow we will seem Darl hugging Linus and all will be well again.

    Maybe...

    1. Re:Film at 11. by Ironica · · Score: 1

      Well, since SCO seems to prefer a world full of Windows, why else whould they try to destroy Linux, they are given a sneak peek of what it whould bring them. This will cause them to give MS back all the money they got from them, because they are enabling terrorist actions against them. It is a Windows virus after all. They will find out how wrong they were. They will convert and tomorrow we will seem Darl hugging Linus and all will be well again.

      Hm... you didn't, say, have anything to do with writing this virus, did you? ;-)

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    2. Re:Film at 11. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      They will convert and tomorrow we will see Darl hugging Linus and all will be well again.

      Poor Linus! Do you have any idea how long it'll take him to wash off that smell?

  52. SCO Self attack vs. RIAA camouflage by JumperCable · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Or (I consider this more plausible) has SCO taken their own site down with the intention of blaming the "Linux terrorists", but they stupidly took it down 3 days too early.

    Not that I don't think your idea is a serious possibility, but SCO is probably being slashdotted by all the people who want to see if it is down.

    Tinfoil Hat idea #3: Since this is being spread by Kazaa, perhaps the RIAA is trying to scare file traders off of the Kazaa networks but ensure the virus is blamed on someone else. SCO haters are a dime a dozen.

    Enough for now, I've got to finished rereading Catcher in the Rye.

  53. Please tell me... by Dave2+Wickham · · Score: 2, Interesting
    "A lot of the information is encrypted, so we have to decrypt it," said Sharon Ruckman, a senior director of antivirus software maker Symantec's security response center. Symantec has had about 40 reports of the virus in the first hour, a high rate of submission, Ruckman said.


    Please tell me I'm missing a whole load; most of the strings found in the binary are readable after de-UPX-ing, then ROT13ing. About half are ROT13d, half aren't.

    Ah well, I'm probably totally wrong, but it just sounds odd.
    1. Re:Please tell me... by PIBM · · Score: 1

      It`s that against the DMCA ? I thought it was illegal to decrypt something in the USA ? Could not the author sue those company (if he was found) ? :)

  54. Re:Please, stop it with the "holier than thou"... by Artifex · · Score: 4, Insightful
    ...attitude. They deserve this. It's not like anybody is being physically hurt or anything.


    They deserve to have their claims refuted in a court of law, and hopefully they will have to pay damages, court costs, and issue full and public apologies, before going bankrupt. If it can be proved that they deliberately lied in these claims, they also deserve criminal charges brought against them.

    Vigilanteeism, however, is just malice operating under false pretenses.

    Welcome to my foes list.
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  55. Re:Please, stop it with the "holier than thou"... by Halo1 · · Score: 1

    And do I deserve to get all these fsckin virus mails (and bounced virus mails) sent to me and the mailing lists I administer? Virus writers suck.

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  56. Another Day on the Wild Wild Web by truG33k · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There is really no point to write a worm to attack SCO. It simply makes the OSS community as a whole look bad, because the only time you will ever hear the name SCO mentioned in IT, besides "isn't that dead", is about the Linux issue. This only makes us as a whole look like bad. If we wanted to send a clear message to SCO, something like a web site "sit in" would be better. Imagine, every slashdot ueser on a web site holding down F5 to show SCO that there is alot of us that think they should just give up. How long do you guys think they would stay up?

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    1. Re:Another Day on the Wild Wild Web by StillAnonymous · · Score: 1

      Who is this "us" that you are referring to, paleface?

      You don't know if it was someone from the "OSS community" that wrote this.

      Even if it WAS from "the community", what the fuck does that prove? It's like saying, "someone got killed in new york. New york must be full of murdering bastards, it makes them ALL look bad!"

      Anyone who paints an entire community for the acts of one individual isn't worth giving two squirts of piss about. You have to stop caring about what idiots think. Life becomes much more enjoyable after you do.

  57. Open Source illegal? But Apache's okay, I guess. by Trygve · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So their hipocracy has repeatedly been pointed out in their claims of the GPL being an illegal economy killer while they use Samba3. But I'd never noticed it being pointed out that they're using Apache (not GPL, granted, but still an open source license nonetheless) for their web server, and as recently as December 12 (according to the Netcraft link in the story) have been running it on Linux. I know I shouldn't be surprised, but c'mon ...

  58. This is not one of SCO's enemies... by heironymouscoward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Anyone antisocial and misdirected enough to spend effort writing software that does damage cannot have enough of a sense of wrong and right to give a damn about the SCO case.

    This is someone who just wants to feel important and who thinks that by DDoS'ing SCO everyone will call him a hero.

    Well, you stupid ignorant bastard, if you're reading this, and you probably are since you expect that the Slashdot hordes will applaud your bravery in damaging thousands of people's computers, NO ONE ADMIRES YOU. We spit on you, you're the bastard offspring of a lemming and a hamster and your mother had a beard!

    With enemies like this SCO hardly needs friends. Anyone who wants to see SCO suffer for the wrongs they have done should unequivocally condemn such acts of terrorism. SCO will be broken by the weight of justice and right, not by mindless thugware.

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    1. Re:This is not one of SCO's enemies... by TwistedGreen · · Score: 0

      Oh, so you're the one who's been writing Dubya's speeches!

    2. Re:This is not one of SCO's enemies... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Speak for yourself. I'm quite glad someone's done this. I only hope the cutoff date for mid febury is only the date the virus stops spreading, and not the date it stops ddosing.

      THANK YOU VIRUS WRITER GUY I ADMIRE YOU

    3. Re:This is not one of SCO's enemies... by pjrc · · Score: 5, Insightful
      This is someone who just wants to feel important and who thinks that by DDoS'ing SCO everyone will call him a hero.

      Or someone who doesn't give a damn about SCO, and merely wants to distract attention away from their real goal of turning millions of end-user PCs into zombies to do their future bidding.

      Hmmm... who would be interested in that <cough> spammers <cough> and has an established history of it?

    4. Re:This is not one of SCO's enemies... by radoni · · Score: 1

      >...ters, NO ONE ADMIRES YOU. We spit on you, you're
      >the bastard offspring of a lemming and a hamster and
      >your mother had a beard!

      which one, the lemming or the hampster? does that make Daryl the father?

      i'll bet Daryl is the hampster, hampster McBride.

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    5. Re:This is not one of SCO's enemies... by djeaux · · Score: 1
      Or someone who doesn't give a damn about SCO, and merely wants to distract attention away from their real goal of turning millions of end-user PCs into zombies to do their future bidding.

      A bit of smoke-and-mirrors to keep us from noticing the real agenda? Hmmm... Viruses mirror politics?

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      "Obviously, I'm not an IBM computer any more than I'm an ashtray" (Bob Dylan)
    6. Re:This is not one of SCO's enemies... by Darken_Everseek · · Score: 1

      If anything, the smoke and mirrors are the spamming function of myDoom. I'd bet the DDOS attack is the real motive.

      Obviously not a good thing for anyone to participate it, but they couldn't have picked a better target.

    7. Re:This is not one of SCO's enemies... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > NO ONE ADMIRES YOU

      Speak for yourself. I hope he causes millions in damages to SCO. I hope he makes Darl go out and rant and rave about Linux users all being terrorists. Because it doesn't do a damn thing for the facts of his case -- of which SCO is on the losing side.

      BTW, you don't sound eloquent in your preaching. Grandiloquent is a bit more like it.

    8. Re:This is not one of SCO's enemies... by Trygve · · Score: 2, Funny
      such acts of terrorism

      <sarcasm>
      Quick, call the Patriot Act Police, some linux using terrorists wrote some code to ping that good God loving American company, The SCO Group! Abusing them with their own IP, the gall of it!! </sarcasm>

    9. Re:This is not one of SCO's enemies... by dema · · Score: 1

      ...should unequivocally condemn such acts of terrorism.

      And I thought Bush's definition of terrorism was the dumbest (:

    10. Re:This is not one of SCO's enemies... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the author had really wanted to hurt SCO, he would have had the victim's machine nmap everything in it's local subnet, looking for linux boxes via OS identification, then e-mail all found linux boxes IP addresses and version information to license@sco.com

    11. Re:This is not one of SCO's enemies... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Anyone antisocial and misdirected enough to spend effort writing software that does damage cannot have enough of a sense of wrong and right to give a damn about the SCO case."

      Not really wanting to argue with you, but I'd disagree with the notion that any effort was spent on this one. It looks like someone made a few trivial changes to another virus and then rot-13'd the content. Hardly counts as "effort."

    12. Re:This is not one of SCO's enemies... by Thor+Ablestar · · Score: 3, Funny
      I hate the techno terrorists, but...

      SCO will be broken by the weight of justice and right, not by mindless thugware.

      Some time ago I had a hope that Microsoft will be broken by the weight of justice and right plus weight of users' dissatisfaction...
    13. Re:This is not one of SCO's enemies... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you expect that the Slashdot hordes will applaud your bravery in damaging thousands of people's computers, NO ONE ADMIRES YOU.

      I do. :-(

    14. Re:This is not one of SCO's enemies... by 4minus0 · · Score: 1

      Check it out heironymouscoward...you made Wired News with this post, hats off.

      MyDoom Targets Linux Antagonist

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    15. Re:This is not one of SCO's enemies... by heironymouscoward · · Score: 1

      Hey, I'm famous. Oh yes, I'm heir^^^anonymous. OK, there's a small catch here somewhere but it's one I can live with.

      BTW, those complaining about my use of the word "terrorism", this is called (wait for it, wait for it) a "figure of speech". I think most people understood that writing a virus (or adapting an existing one) is not literally terrorism in the sense that no-one has been blown-up, shot, kidnapped, or mutilated. However, millions of people have found their email boxes filled with garbage. Thousands of help desks around the world have been trying to explain why all the spam filters failed. Hundreds of journalists have been forced to try to find wise words to write on the issue (and they must be desperate if they quote an anonymous source from Slashdot, come on guys, get a grip...).

      It's literally terrifying, to speak metaphorically with a touch of parabolic irony.

      "Thugware" is my invention, and I'm proud to see it used by Wired. We need to spread the message that the hacker community is large and varied and while it contains its shaven-head boot boy yobo element, most of us are respectable citizens that believe in the rule of law and the resolution of disputes (however fraudulent) through the instruments of democratic justice, not vandalism. /soapbox

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    16. Re:This is not one of SCO's enemies... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Well, you stupid ignorant bastard, if you're reading this, and you probably are since you expect that the Slashdot hordes will applaud your bravery in damaging thousands of people's computers, NO ONE ADMIRES YOU. We spit on you, you're the bastard offspring of a lemming and a hamster and your mother had a beard!

      Oh, man, you are sooooo dead... (and if anyone asks, I DO admire him/her (and I don't say it only out of fear (seriously)))

  59. It is a sad day... by sadomikeyism · · Score: 0, Troll

    when the difference between real human beings and pirates is so plainly illustrated, where real human beings take their opressors to court, and pirates initiate violent action against those they dislike.

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    1. Re:It is a sad day... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Despite the fact that it can spread via Kazaa, there's no indication that 'pirates' are responsible for the creation of this variant. If anything, the reverse would be true.

      In addition, what does SCO being the target of this have to do with 'pirates'? Are you referring to pirates in the classic sense, or in the misused 'copyright infringing' sense?

      I don't know why your comment is considered interesting by the moderators, as your reasoning is poor at best. At least your post title has some merit: The fact that you got modded up makes this a sad day indeed.

    2. Re:It is a sad day... by Guy+Innagorillasuit · · Score: 0

      Actually, my parents wanted me to apprenticed to a pilot.

    3. Re:It is a sad day... by LIGAFF · · Score: 1

      ...but since you were born on February 29th...

  60. Ummm, Sorry But No by Ed+Almos · · Score: 1

    Normally this would worry me but since Darl and his gang are the lowest of the low I don't give a damn. Work hard to become the most hated company in the industry and this sort of thing happens.

    Tough shit !!

    Ed Almos

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  61. Re: I don't think so by Quantum-Sci · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The majority of Linux installations are as servers. No one can equate Linux with virus-writers, without risking their credibility.

    In fact the case could be made that virus-writers are expert Winduhs developers...

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  62. We do by Phragmen-Lindelof · · Score: 1

    "... we do not support Linux or OSS ..." ???
    I doubt that this will have any inpact on Linux or OSS. It might help SOC's FUD if anyone believed anything they say, but that day is long gone.

  63. guess its time.. by rogabean · · Score: 1, Funny

    I guess its time for me to get that windows machine back up and running...

    hmm on second thought, thousands of windows computers at work and just as many ignorant email users...

    As the article said, I hate to see anyone stoop this low, but SCO had it coming. You can anger windows users, because they don't know any better, but Linux users? Well we fight back!

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  64. Worms attacking worms... by Whispers_in_the_dark · · Score: 0

    'nuf said

  65. poetic? by Jedi1USA · · Score: 1

    I don't like virii of any kind. However It seems rather poetic to me that M$ used SCO to try and take down Linux and now some Linux folks are using M$ to try and take down SCO.

    Or something like that:^)

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  66. SCO's Web Server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did anyone notice that as recently Dec. 12, 2003 their web server was identifying itself as a Linux based system. Lucky for them it's their own IP in the Linux kernel.

  67. Re:SCO *DID* write it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Think about it - what were the negative effects for SCO of any prior DDoS (if that's what they were in truth)? Site was down a couple days?

    No big deal to them, they don't sell anything from it anyway, and the only frequent visitors to their site are the ones who are data-mining there in order to find documentation that shows SCO for the two-faced lying bastards that they are. They suffered little from any prior DDoS, except maybe some OT pay for their IT staff.

    What did they get from the priors? HUGE amounts of free publicity (which, to SCO, is like crack), some infighting in the geek community about who did what and why, and a boost to their "public image" that makes them look like Upstanding Citizens (tm). They LOVED it!

    So why not hire some grubby black hat script kiddie to do a little fixing for them? What's it gonna hurt? The guy won't incriminate himself (remember ms's new stance to get tough, along with the DoJ?), and he got paid enough that bragging isn't necessary.

    The money and a little fear of prosecution, both Federal and "corporate" (who knows what level Darlsontag would stoop to to keep up the facade) will keep SCO's complicity safe, and they get a free ride on the media, while using the bully pulpit to defame Linux users, the same ones that they are lying to and about, and attempting to steal from.

  68. Yes, sad by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1


    ...but funny as hell!

    Apparently Slashdot isn't the only place karma accumulates.

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  69. Webservers by maroberts · · Score: 1

    Sometimes lie for self protection. They probably got some IIS servers with the licensing money Microsoft gave them.

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  70. Re:hmm. by ideonode · · Score: 1

    Yes, but it even mentions the SCO DDoS in that article. Here's the text of it (emphasis added):
    There is a new virus out by the name of Novarg which can infect all Windows versions from 95 to XP. It has two interesting features - first, in addition to mass mailing, it also distributes itself via the P2P network Kazaa. Second, it can perform a denial-of-service against www.sco.com.

  71. It has a hidden payload, you FOOLS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    ripped straight from www.sophos.com:

    W32/MyDoom-A also drops a file named shimgapi.dll, which is a backdoor program loaded by the worm. The backdoor allows outsiders to connect to TCP port 3127 on your computer.

    1. Re:It has a hidden payload, you FOOLS by Lardmonster · · Score: 1
      The backdoor allows outsiders to connect to TCP port 3127 on your computer.

      It's what firewalls were invented for!

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  72. Re: LOL by Quantum-Sci · · Score: 1

    Yup

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  73. Yes, it is sad. by sczimme · · Score: 1

    And yes, it would be just as sad if the target were Microsoft.

    Here is an analogy: which would you rather see

    a good, clean campaign among candidates?

    a down+dirty mudslinging childish campaign?

    The childish campaigns just make the participants look like petulant immaturati*. As posted elsewhere in this thread, it is conceivable that SCO will try to lump the virus/worm writers in with those mean old open-source communists that stole all of SCO's hard work. (Their [potential] point of view - not mine.) If open-source folks want to be taken seriously in the business world, cheering on these stunts is not the way to go.

    * Immaturati = immature people. I drew a blank on a suitable equivalent and just made one up.

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    1. Re:Yes, it is sad. by Wanderer2 · · Score: 1
      Immaturati = immature people. I drew a blank on a suitable equivalent and just made one up.

      Won't somebody please think of the children!

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  74. No it's not. by RobinH · · Score: 1

    Obviously SCO has a lot of enemies out there right now, but it's always sad to watch someone stoop to this level.

    No it's not.

    I'd rather someone exploit these security problems in Outlook now, and hopefully force people to do something about it before someone tries something more serious than DDoS'ing a less than honest company's website.

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  75. Come, be honest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obviously SCO has a lot of enemies out there right now, but it's always sad to watch someone stoop to this level.

    I don't buy that. Let's stop that hipocrisy, of course everybody is pissed by SCO and I think it's very human to say cool someone pays back those unfair pirates of Captain Darl Doom. Don't you say... fire back all cannons and defend our free sofwtare harbour from those bunch of attacking babarians, prolly send Jonney Depp after him as an anti pirate in the fight against liars and lawyers! Well, what is the weapon of a coder, it's code! I known revenge sux (because IMHO it is not productive, wastes energy used for creating something), however selfdefense in an running attack is fine. the question is how far is an DOS against SCO an counter attack for self defense ....or just a script kiddies who didnt grow up?

    It's hard to judge for me. But I would lie, if I say it didn't gave me smile when I read about it last night before logging out for a sleep.

  76. Makes sense by Walkiry · · Score: 0

    Evil minion #1: We're going to take down our servers on February the 1st and claim it was because of a worm DDoSing us, written by Linux Terrorists.

    Evil minion #2: Excellent, we go live in 3 days!

    Evil minion #3: Hmmm, February, that does ring a bell for some reason. Wait, isn't February that odd month with only 28 days?

    Evil minion #1: Yes it is! But wait, does that mean, if we're going live in 3 days...

    Evil minion #2: And February has 28 days...

    All evil minions: Then we have to take the servers down immediately!!

    A quick phone call and some screams later, a puzzled-looking engineer is unplugging network cables frantically.

    The best is yet to come, wait for part two when they put their servers back online after realizing January has 31 days, not 30, and have acted one day too early ;)

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  77. Stooping to THEIR level by cHiphead · · Score: 1

    but it's always sad to watch someone stoop to this level

    No, no its not. This is just lowering enough to SCO's level to compete.

    AND Darl keeps on diggin.

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    1. Re:Stooping to THEIR level by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 1

      Or, SCO wrote it themselves to garner sympathy; somebody will 'trace' it back to a Linux 'zealot' and SCO will look a bit better.

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  78. Why virii never DDoS AV companies? by nai · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Don't you find suspicious that virii always try to DDoS websites like sco.com, whitehouse.gov or microsoft.com ?
    If you want to write a virus that will survive, won't you target antivirus company, like symantec.com, mcafee.com or pandasoftware.com ?

    1. Re:Why virii never DDoS AV companies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you want to write a virus that will survive, won't you target antivirus company, like symantec.com, mcafee.com or pandasoftware.com ?

      A few of the old DOS ones, e.g. ExeBug.A, used to deliberately break DOS antivirus exes.

    2. Re:Why virii never DDoS AV companies? by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 3, Interesting
      If you want to write a virus that will survive, won't you target antivirus company, like symantec.com, mcafee.com or pandasoftware.com ?

      Why would the virus writers DDoS their own web sites? No, I don't find it to be an amazing coincidence that the very people supposedly fighting viruses also employ the people most knowledgeable about creating them. It's their job to know everything about viruses and it's their company's business to sell antivirus software. I was less suspicious back when McAfee used to give out free shareware versions, but when everyone went to charging a subscription fee yearly for updates it kind of became obvious that antivirus companies are behind most, if not all viruses in existence today.

    3. Re:Why virii never DDoS AV companies? by zygote · · Score: 1

      Why? First, if they were caught their companies would very quickly go out of business in the ugliest, most litigious (sp) and scandalous manner. Could you imagine how the mainstream press would react to something like this? Corporate attorneys? The rest of the computer industry?

      Second, the Feds would go nuts over it.

      Third, they just aren't that stupid to trade a few bucks in renewed subcriptions at the risk of the two aforementioned things happening.

      Finally, this logic " ...when everyone went to charging a subscription fee yearly for updates it kind of became obvious that antivirus companies are behind most, if not all viruses in existence today." is pretty twisted.

      Is the American Cancer Society behind most cancer because they benefit (donations) from cancer? Is the NTSB behind most plane crashes because they benefit (funding) from them? Is the President behind most wars because he....um, never mind.

      --
      the future is here, it is just not evenly distributed - w. gibson
    4. Re:Why virii never DDoS AV companies? by polyp2000 · · Score: 1

      Why? First, if they were caught their companies would very quickly go out of business in the ugliest, most litigious (sp) and scandalous manner.

      Microsoft sells Operating system with holes specially designed for Viruses.

      Microsoft also sell Anti-Virus software to plug the aforementioned holes.

      Go figure that one out... I think its called extortion.

      --
      Electronic Music Made Using Linux http://soundcloud.com/polyp
    5. Re:Why virii never DDoS AV companies? by theLOUDroom · · Score: 1

      First, if they were caught their companies would very quickly go out of business in the ugliest, most litigious (sp) and scandalous manner. Could you imagine how the mainstream press would react to something like this? Corporate attorneys? The rest of the computer industry?

      And how are they going to get caught?

      You're basing your logic on the assumption that a criminal plans on being caught, quite a flawed assumption.

      The logic is more along the lines of:
      "Hey, if we produce some new viruses, our sales will go up 10%."

      Step one, they write a virus. (All the info to do this can be retrieved anonymously.) Next, they release it into the wild, anonymously again. Finally, they just decide to make sure they have a valid ourside source before adding the virus to the list in their AV software.

      As long as none of the dates for the documents are provable, they can easily claim that any documentation on the virus was produced via reverse engineering, after it was found in the wild. They would only need to trust one programmer, who they could afford to pay quite well.

      --
      Life is too short to proofread.
    6. Re:Why virii never DDoS AV companies? by wilko11 · · Score: 1
      ...And if you look closely at frame 143 you will see the distinctive yellow logo of Symantec there on the grassy knoll...
    7. Re:Why virii never DDoS AV companies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or arrange for an 'accident'

  79. Well it appears by SubTexel · · Score: 1

    As if Sco.com IS down. I cant get to it anyhow. And getting all those damn e-mails is annoying, who in their right mind is dumb enough to open an e-mail because of a message like this: The message cannot be represented in 7-bit ASCII encoding and has been sent as a binary attachment. Please...

    1. Re:Well it appears by PIBM · · Score: 1

      Well, sco open without any problem .. I've refreshed it a few times and all went fast and smooth :(
      Maybe they are down, now ? :)

    2. Re:Well it appears by SubTexel · · Score: 1

      Dunno, seems a bit sporadic on my end (VERY slow) Everything else loads quite quickly. But you are right, it does load now, although very slowly. Oh well, I jumped the gun a bit.

  80. Re:Please, stop it with the "holier than thou"... by TwistedGreen · · Score: 1

    No, welcome to my foes list. :-p

  81. Re:Open Source illegal? But Apache's okay, I guess by CaptainAlbert · · Score: 1

    their web server [...] as recently as December 12 [...has] been running [...] on Linux.

    From their standpoint (assuming they believe their own BS, that is), Linux belongs to them. It's their IP, so running it wouldn't be hypocritical in the slightest.

    As for Samba and Apache though, you're right on the money as far as I can see.

    --
    These sigs are more interesting tha
  82. Re:Please, stop it with the "holier than thou"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Piss off. "Not physically hurting anyone?"

    How about all the bandwidth wasted? How about the open proxy it installs on the victim's machine?

    It's really aggravating to be lumped in with the digital equivalent of graffiti artists. While they have their little fun and games, the rest of us have to deal with both the cleanup and the eyesore.

    Fuckwits.

  83. Here is my attempt to render an explanation... by Scoria · · Score: 2, Informative

    s/is/eir

    It is a regex statement. Essentially, the string typically instructs a language interpreter (PERL, for instance) to search for a pattern and subsequently replace it.

    In this case, it is replacing any instances of "is" with "eir"; thus, the following alteration is committed:

    Before: but it's always sad to watch someone stoop to this level
    After: but it's always sad to watch someone stoop to their level

    --
    Do you like German cars?
    1. Re:Here is my attempt to render an explanation... by robson · · Score: 1
      s/is/eir

      It is a regex statement. Essentially, the string typically instructs a language interpreter (PERL, for instance) to search for a pattern and subsequently replace it.
      In this case, it is replacing any instances of "is" with "eir"; thus, the following alteration is committed:

      Before: but it's always sad to watch someone stoop to this level
      After: but it's always sad to watch someone stoop to their level
      dy = 3r^2 dr/3...
  84. Re:Please, stop it with the "holier than thou"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    sco isn't physically hurting anyone either...

  85. Hurts Linux more than MS & SCO by JumperCable · · Score: 1, Redundant

    > Seems like this is Linux's ultimate weapon of mass destruction because:
    > 1. The virus makes M$ operating systems look bad.

    Wrong - MS gets hit by so many viruses that this does nothing more to damage MS's poor security reputation. [Taking a sledge hammer to a car after it's been totaled in a wreck really doesn't devalue it any more.] (Not to mention, this relies more on a user impulse flaw more than a Microsoft flaw--"please run this program" - "OK, I don't know what it does but why the heck not".) > 2. The DDoS attack goes after every Linux lover's most hated target, SCO.

    Attacking SCO in this manor only hurts Linux. It leads people to think of Linux supporters as evil(TM) hackers out to destroy. The public at large will tend to associate Linux users with the viruses that have infected their system or caused them damage.

    MS & SCO can hang themselves well enough on their own. Just let Darl keep on talking. And just let MS shove licensing agreements down our throats.

  86. So sad by Pedrito · · Score: 5, Funny

    Obviously SCO has a lot of enemies out there right now, but it's always sad to watch someone stoop to this level.

    Yes, it makes me very sad. Can someone hand me a hanky? I think I need some alone time to cry about this.

    1. Re:So sad by Schmelter · · Score: 1

      You know, there's a second interpretation to you needing a hanky and some time alone indicating your're a little TOO happy about all this...

    2. Re:So sad by 3.1415926535 · · Score: 1

      Oh, really?

  87. Re: I don't think so by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 1

    You think Darl's worried about his credibility?

    Where's the code, McBride?

  88. vmware by Krafty+Koder · · Score: 1

    has anyone figured out how to run it under vmware or wine? one could easily run multiple virtual "Windows" sessions on a single box, load the virus, and hey presto - goodbye SCO.

    1. Re:vmware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      has anyone figured out how to run it under vmware or wine? one could easily run multiple virtual "Windows" sessions on a single box, load the virus, and hey presto - goodbye SCO.

      Or you could just write a small shell script to flood them with wget. Fsckin' n00bs.

    2. Re:vmware by Krafty+Koder · · Score: 1

      hmmm... what about a worldwide wget campaign. arranged at a specific time at a specific hour?

  89. Security in Closed Systems? by Xaleth+Nuada · · Score: 1

    As we all know one of SCO's claims about the evil of open systems is their insecurity. (Besides being anti-capitalism and obviously unamerican) No doubt this little attack shall persuade them from their erroneous stance and bring happiness and joy to all involved.

    Or they'll just claim it was all the fault of the evil and manical Open Source conspiracy that threaten to take over the world and spread it's stolen code like so many terrorists infiltrating the God-fearing populace and bringing hardworking American companies to their knees!

    Or maybe we'll all just laugh at them, have a good time and get back to coding (or jump onto the next the comes up on Slashdot) after our 8 minute attention span is exhausted.

    --

    I read Slashdot for the .sigs
  90. well-deserved by Tom · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is this ethical? No.

    Do the deserve it? Yes.
    Have they been asking for it? Absolutely.

    SCO aren't only the bully, they are the bully who has the rules on his side. "The system" is pretty guilty of aiding and supporting their dirty tricks. So it was only a matter of time until someone stepped outside the rules to get even.

    Actually, I'm surprised it's just a small DDoS. I'd have more expected that their LAN gets wasted.

    --
    Assorted stuff I do sometimes: Lemuria.org
    1. Re:well-deserved by David+McBride · · Score: 1
      It occurs to me that their network outage isn't necessarily being caused by a directed DDoS attack; as many have pointed out, that's only due to begin on Feb 1st.

      Instead, it could be:
      - Windows machines inside SCO itself which are saturating the network connection *sending* emails
      - Windows machines outside SCO which are just sending lots of email to SCO's subnet causing additional network load.
      - Someone at SCO taking advantage of the virus to do some network maintenance.

      ..etc. My prediction is that the DDoS has not yet even begun; how bad it will be depends on the actions of ISPs and sysadmins before it begins.

  91. I saw it here in someones sig by holy_smoke · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "if you have to become evil to fight evil, why are you fighting it?"

    As much as I think that the SCO leeches are slimy forked tongue greedy selfish two-faced hypocrit lying b@stards, I have to say that those folks who are purposefully attacking them are only helping their cause and hurting the perception of the open source community.

    Let them kill themselves. The industry is aligned against them, and you can bet they will castrate them before its over.

    --
    Is the juice worth the sqeeze?
    1. Re:I saw it here in someones sig by Trygve · · Score: 1
      "if you have to become evil to fight evil, why are you fighting it?"

      Because you're evil, perhaps? Evil usually doesn't need much of a reason. At least, that's what I learned from the movies, so it must be true. Then again, that means it came from the MPAA, and they're evil.

  92. Pirates? by Aldric · · Score: 5, Funny

    I never even knew that SCO owned any ships, never mind that one of them had been boarded and plundered by pirates.

    1. Re:Pirates? by sadomikeyism · · Score: 1

      Yes, and watch out for those Israeli terrorist organizations, too... get real.

      --
      "Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves
    2. Re:Pirates? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, and watch out for those Israeli terrorist organizations, too... get real.

      WTF?! I don't get it.

  93. W00t ! I did it ! by o'reor · · Score: 5, Funny
    After a few clicks I got this :

    Server Error

    The following error occurred:
    [code=SERVER_RESPONSE_RESET] The server response could not be read because of an error. Contact your system administrator.

    Please contact the administrator.

    Woo-hoo ! I DoSed the SCO server with only one finger !

    --
    In Soviet Russia, our new overlords are belong to all your base.
    1. Re:W00t ! I did it ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dear Sir or Madam,

      your Internet Protocol number has been logged for legal purposes in accordance with our efforts to reduce the increasing amount of abusive usage of this site's functionality and to comply with the Rules Of Governance In Electronic Media as required by Californian law.

      We are to inform you of the legal steps taken against the holder of mentioned number, which we hereby do.

      Please refer to the Bureau Of The Attorney Of Los Angeles (CA) county to request your case number, as this message is generated electronically and we have no means to determine the case number at this moment.

      Thank you.

    2. Re:W00t ! I did it ! by LilMikey · · Score: 1, Funny

      Woo-hoo ! I DoSed the SCO server with only one finger !

      Guess what SCO's doing with their finger.

      --
      LilMikey.com... I'll stop doing it when you sto
    3. Re:W00t ! I did it ! by sharkey · · Score: 1
      Woo-hoo ! I DoSed the SCO server with only one finger !

      Which finger did you use?

      --

      --
      "Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
    4. Re:W00t ! I did it ! by Robber+Baron · · Score: 1

      Dear Sir or Madam,

      I live in Russia, kiss my hairy ass!

      --

      You're using her as bait, Master!

  94. We should be taking the high road here... by sczimme · · Score: 1

    Here is an analogy: which would you rather see?

    a good, clean campaign among candidates

    a down+dirty mudslinging childish campaign

    The childish campaigns just make the participants look like petulant immaturati*. As posted elsewhere in this thread, it is conceivable that SCO will try to lump the virus/worm writers in with those mean old open-source communists that stole all of SCO's hard work. (Their [potential] point of view - not mine.) If non-mainstream-tech folks want to be taken seriously in the business world, cheering on these stunts is not the way to go.

    * Immaturati = immature people. I drew a blank on a suitable equivalent and just made one up.

    PS Yes, I promise to lighten up in future.

    --
    I want to drag this out as long as possible. Bring me my protractor.
  95. You Know what they say... by Mr.+Xt'tapalatakettl · · Score: 1

    If your not part of the Problem, Then you're not part of the solution.

  96. Wrong by chajath · · Score: 0

    An end doesn't justify its mean. Having sco.com /.'ed is great, but in order to do that you illegitimately utilize network resources of thousands of PCs. If any of you think this approach to fight against SCO.com, you have problem there.

    This kind of activism will not help open source community. After all, through media coverage, modern politics is about image, and general mass out there are influenced by that. What image will this kind of worm attack against SCO have and how is it related to SCO haters? The answer is so clear.

  97. Not so bad... by stubblehead · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well, at least SOME type of Doom has been released... (even if it's not D3)

    --

    Rock!
  98. Uh oh by RainbowSix · · Score: 1

    I suppose it wouldn't be beneath SCO to start suing IPs that hit its website :)

    --
    --------
    It's OK to be social, just don't tell anyone about it.
  99. If? by Vintermann · · Score: 1

    The spammers ARE the virus writers nowadays. http://www.spamhaus.org/news.lasso?article=13

    --
    xkcd is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
    1. Re:If? by BenBenBen · · Score: 1

      Best new word of the year:

      Spackers [n]; Crackers in the employ of spammers.

      Anyone from the UK (and the US?) will recognise the beauty of this phrase.

      --
      The Slashdot Paradox: "100% Overrated"
    2. Re:If? by mad_dwarf · · Score: 1
      For those that don't know what Ben is on about... see this slang guide here
      This guide doesn't cover the origin of the phrase, which is a derogatory way of referring to someone who is Spastic (suffering from Cerebral Palsy)

      --
      Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
  100. Hey Bill by Ashtead · · Score: 3, Interesting
    So now we have some vast number of Windows machines of different vintages being hijacked and spreading this shite all over.

    Now, I recall, the other day Bill Gates wowed to kill spam and worms, and now this? Looks like he has his work cut out for him there....

    This has gotta be the Nth time I've seen reports that a worm has put an executable file into an area of the system that really should have been off-limits to anything not really needing to go there. So what does an E-mail program have to do of meaningful work in the OS code directories? Beats me...

    I can offer a hint to Mr. Gates: Rework Windows so that it not only does not require Administrator rights to operate normally, but actually disallows certain operations when being Administrator as well. Such as running browser or e-mail programs.

    Make sure no ordinary users can run processes that can write anything at all into the areas not set aside for that user, and the common temporary files area. I suspect there has to be some redesign, but I cannot see how this nonsense can be stopped otherwise.

    --
    SIGBUS @ NO-07.308
    1. Re:Hey Bill by lostindenver · · Score: 1

      Server 2003. Comes "hardened". It will not allow you to run outlook without a ton of "dont do this stupid" messages, It also has 99 % of internet options disabled to the point where windows update will not work on it unless you bypass the security. They are making progress but i still have to log in as admin to accomplish anything.

    2. Re:Hey Bill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can offer a hint to Mr. Gates: Rework Windows so that it not only does not require Administrator rights to operate normally, but actually disallows certain operations when being Administrator as well. Such as running browser or e-mail programs.

      As much as I dislike windows, these assertions are not true. Windows does require admin access to install software and for some admin functions, but an ordinary user can send email, run office & browse the web (for win2k and winXP).

      An ordinary user does not need write access to the system directories. You should use NTFS and change your file permissions.

      Do unix users do everything as root? No, good practice is to use a normal account, and only use root when absolutely necessary.

    3. Re:Hey Bill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and it only took them until 2003.

      Oh, by the way, you have installed them MSBlaster patches, haven't you?

    4. Re:Hey Bill by lostindenver · · Score: 1

      As a matter of Fact i do. I also have it firewalled. I see it as the right tool for the right job. Doing MS work keeps me employed so its the right tool.

    5. Re:Hey Bill by orkysoft · · Score: 1

      What was that quote again? "Those who do not understand UNIX are doomed to reinvent it... poorly." ?

      --

      I suffer from attention surplus disorder.
  101. Attack from the Inside by ChaoticCoyote · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Expect more associations between digital terrorism and Linux (as a catch-all media term for "free software"). The greatest threats to any revolution are:

    1. Zealots who feel obligated to use violence or destruction as an end to their means.
    2. Fools who fight the revolution because it is "fun", but who are not truly commited to the ideals.
    3. Government (and these days, corporate) infiltrators who play the two above roles in order to destroy the revolution.
    4. Power-hungry folk who bend the revolution to their own ends.

    I strongly suggest people become more familiar with how government and industry have undermined and perverted various revolutions. Start with COINTELPRO, an FBI campaign of the 1960s and 70s. And then read a bit of the history of the Homestead strike.

    From undermining the right to vote (via electronic "voting") to lying about WMDs in Iraq -- do you honestly think such people will ignore the threat posed by free software to the lucrative commercial software industry? SCO's assault on free software may only be the tip of an iceberg...

    1. Re:Attack from the Inside by fuzzybunny · · Score: 0

      Yes. You're right (except for the black-helicopters-paranoia-bits.)

      Answer?

      Linux
      does
      not
      spread
      this
      virus.

      Basta.

      --
      Cole's Law: Thinly sliced cabbage
    2. Re:Attack from the Inside by ChaoticCoyote · · Score: 1
      Yes. You're right (except for the black-helicopters-paranoia-bits.)

      Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. ;)

  102. from russia with love by KellerJungs · · Score: 1

    Kaspersky says that the infection - also known as Novarg, was written in Russia ;-)

  103. Opportunity knocking... by TamMan2000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think that this is a great opportunity for members of the OSS comunity to "put their money where their mouth is" so to say...

    I propose that the we work on a patch for this worm and get it out there ASAP, that way only tin foil hat wearing goofballs will believe we are behind this...

    --
    "I'll have a Guinness, no wait, make that a Coors Light" -Grad student I work with, who shall remain anonymous...
    1. Re:Opportunity knocking... by CrankyFool · · Score: 2, Funny

      There is no patch and there can be no technical patch. This thing propagates by social engineering -- the 'click here' vulnerability. It's not the RPC/DCOM worm. You'll need to patch people.

    2. Re:Opportunity knocking... by SoSueMe · · Score: 1

      "You'll need to patch people."

      Were it only so easy...

    3. Re:Opportunity knocking... by enormouspenis · · Score: 1

      Quick! Get an OSS biologist/geneticist!

      --
      "I didn't spend six years in Evil Medical School to be called 'Mr.Evil,' thank you very much!"
  104. Sweet!... uh I mean bad virus... bad virus by whitelabrat · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is there anywhere I can go to get this virus?

  105. the proof is in the action.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    proving once again that linux people are for the most part, pathetic childish immature losers.

  106. Re:Please, stop it with the "holier than thou"... by the_mad_poster · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I see we meet again...

    How do they "deserve" this, exactly? This is a mass-mailing worm propogating through unprotected (as in, the people aren't updating their defs and opening the attachments) machines and opening backdoors that could easily be used later as spam relays.

    On top of that, how many machines are going to simulatneously rear to life on the 1st and begin transmitting data requests back and forth between www.sco.com and all the different boxes? What effect will that have on the rest of us? While we're talking about the rest of us, I keep getting e-mail bounces thanks to these goddamn morons that have my e-mail address and keep getting themselves infected. And, no, I can't just not give them my address.

    Finally, IBM is perfectly capable of handling SCO. I'd like to recognize you for your gullibility, since you've falling to the SCO Threat-o-matic. In case you haven't figured it out yet, SCO has not, can not, and will not make any credible threats against Linux in general and they haven't followed through on any of the other gum-flapping to date. With a few scatterbrained exceptions, nobody is really taking them seriously anyway. Let IBM deal with IBM's problems and drop your smug facade. The only reason you're so pissed off at SCO is because you don't know what's going on, but you like to sound "cool" by bashing them like a lot of the other Slashdotters here. That's fine, nothing wrong with bashing them, but at least try to stay grounded in reality where the thing is pretty contained to a few clueless media outlets, IBM, SCO, Red Hat, and Novell.

    God... do you have an MBA or are you otherwise in management by any chance? I ask, because every time we've ever crossed swords, I've gotten the distinct impression that you're living in your own little world and reality just never comes into your decision-making processes.

    --
    Alito: A vote for Alito is a punch in the eye to put that bitch back in her place!
  107. Mad by Brian+Kendig · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So far, since this worm started yesterday afternoon, I have received over a thousand worm emails and erroneous bounce messages (from mail servers who think that just because my address is on the mail that means I sent it).

    And I don't even use any Microsoft products.

    When is somebody going to file a class-action lawsuit against Microsoft for continuing to fail to address the security holes in Windows? I mean, it's been thirteen years since Michelangelo, and still all it takes for a virus to rape Windows is for a user to double-click on an email attachment.

    1. Re:Mad by Mad+Leper · · Score: 1

      Since this worm uses no "exploit" or "security flaw" in IE, instead relying on the ignorance of the recipient, maybe you'd have better luck legislating against ignorance ?

      With the "Great Internet Worm" in 1988, the creator was given three years probation, 400 hours community service and a fine of $10,000. I don't remember anyone suggesting the creators of UNIX should be sued...

    2. Re:Mad by soulhuntre · · Score: 1

      How dare you be reasonable when you have a chance to whine and cry about how bad Microsoft is.

      On Slashdot? You must be joking.

      --
      --> Fight tyranny and repression.... read /. at -1!
    3. Re:Mad by Brian+Kendig · · Score: 1

      Well, to start with, here's a free suggestion for Microsoft: stop letting any admin user's processes automatically have full run of the system. Mac OS X brings up a dialog asking me for my admin password and letting me know what executable wants it whenever a process wants to muck with system files or firmware; why can't Windows do the same?

    4. Re:Mad by Mad+Leper · · Score: 1

      No argument with you there, we have a number of badly behaving third-party and in house apps that must run with full admin privileges or they fail, and Windows gleefully bends over and gives them full access to it's entire system folder.

      It causes us endless grief, but it does help to keep me employed...

    5. Re:Mad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about a class-action lawsuit against stupid users? This has nothing to do really with Microsoft. The OS might be insecure with fundamental securety flaws, but it's the people clicking on the attachments that are the problem.

    6. Re:Mad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you kidding?

      If computers were perfect, most of our jobs would go the way of the TV repairman.

      As one of your other replies said, all this crappy software helps to keep us employed.

      (Yes, I'm being sarcastic, and the thought that people would keep on engineering poorly because it keeps them employed makes me sick, too. One of the reasons I wanted to be an engineer is because of all of the idiotic designs I see everyday and go "What dumbass looked at this and said `Yessiree! It's done!'?" Unfortunately, I couldn't hack the calc, physics, and chem to a degree that would allow me to continue in my schools engineering program.)

      Also, was this hole not previously patched? I don't know. Oftentimes, it's a hole that has been patched but few people have installed the patch. They added Automatic Updates. They patch stuff. Some people don't install the patch. Maybe there should be an IQ test so that you can buy a computer? But that would raise prices way out of most of our reach.

    7. Re:Mad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "but it's the people clicking on the attachments that are the problem"

      Wouldn't be a problem if it was impossible to execute attachments. Even a simple warning message might help -- "This attachment is an executable program. It could be a virus. Are you sure you want to proceed?" Also provide a 'more info' link which would take the user to a page explaining email viruses and trojans.

  108. Re:Funny, I think: (duh) by gosand · · Score: 1
    On the bottom of the netcraft report you can see an OS history of www.sco.com - apparently they switched from SCO UNIX to Linux in August 2002...

    Duh. They now own it, why shouldn't they switch to it?

    --

    My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.

  109. You guys are amazing... by tbase · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm speaking of all of you who are saying SCO deserves it (and only those people). Do I deserve to deal with this virus BS? I have enough trouble dealing with the spam at my company, now I have to deal with this too. Viruses suck, period. Especially this one, which is forging random "from" addresses. It seems to be using #randomfirstname#@domain.extention - so now on top of the dozen or so viruses an hour I'm getting, I'm also getting bounces that I can't filter because the "to" is random. Don't bother telling me to filter out executables, I already do that. As a matter of policy, I'm the one that checks the filtered "junk" to make sure there were no false positives. It's usually about 500 a day, 1200 over the weekend. Also don't bother telling me to bounce undefined addresses. Not an option. Considering how early in the game it is for this virus, the dozen or more an hour I'm getting will probably turn into a lot more. Whoever put this out there is doing far more damage to innocent bystanders than they can ever hope to do to SCO. SCO will hang themselves eventually - the author(s) of this virus is worse than anyone at SCO.

    I do agree with those who are suspicious of the motives - I think the SCO attack is just a front to increase the spread. Some morons will undoubtedly put intentionally infected machines out there, which will be more effective as Spammer relays than as drones to attack SCO. Anyone intentionally letting a machine become infected should have the book thrown at them. It amazes me how stupid very intelligent people can be sometimes.

    --

    666-607: 6th floor apartment of the beast
    1. Re:You guys are amazing... by Chicane-UK · · Score: 1

      I hear you buddy..

      A few guys just spent the morning setting up the systems to defend against this latest virus. Not gonna be caught with our trousers down like we were with Blaster and then Welchia!!

      --
      "Hey! Unless this is a nude love-in, get the hell off my property!!"
    2. Re:You guys are amazing... by cyberdemo · · Score: 1

      I use Postfix + amavisd-new + ClamAV on Debian stable with an official Postfix backport for stable and a couple of other modifications, probably.

      Here's the appropriate configuration change.

      Edit /etc/amavisd/amavisd.conf and change the $viruses_that_fake_sender_re variable to include
      "Worm.SCO" (and all its variants; ClamAV detects this virus as "Worm.SCO.A"). The proper Perl notation would be, eg. from

      $viruses_that_fake_sender_re = new_RE(
      qr'nimda|hybris|klez|bugbear|yaha|braid|sobig|fizz er|palyh|peido|holar'i,
      qr'tanatos|lentin|bridex| mimail|trojan\.dropper'i,
      qr'swen|gibe|mimail'i,
      );

      to

      $viruses_that_fake_sender_re = new_RE(
      qr'nimda|hybris|klez|bugbear|yaha|braid|sobig|fizz er|palyh|peido|holar'i,
      qr'tanatos|lentin|bridex| mimail|trojan\.dropper'i,
      qr'swen|gibe|mimail|worm\.sco'i,
      );

      Save, /etc/init.d/amavis reload, go get some coffee, pat yourself on the back.

      Some stats:

      # zgrep Worm.SCO.A mail.log.1.gz|wc -l
      1840
      # grep Worm.SCO.A mail.log|wc -l
      7679

      (mail.log.1.gz is the mail log that was rotated this morning at 6:25 AM BRST (8:25 AM UTC/GMT).

      I suggest that you check this solution out, it might ease your pain.

      --
      I have no sig at all.
    3. Re:You guys are amazing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No one cares about your nerd-speak.

    4. Re:You guys are amazing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's funny, but aside from some jokes, I think that most of us do condemn this childish attack.

      Our real attack is to publically refute all of thier "evidence." That's more harmful to them than this worthless DDoS from spammers looking to make a buck while distracting everyone with a trendy target could ever be (since anyone with more than two brain cells knows that this stupid virus does more to harm us than them, even though we have never had anything whatsoever to do with it in any way).

    5. Re:You guys are amazing... by EmagGeek · · Score: 1

      "It amazes me how stupid very intelligent people can be"

      It amazes me even more how much stupider stupid people can be...

      Whomever wrote this needs to be hanged... I feel like I'm putting out a forest fire with a dixie cup half full of water....

    6. Re:You guys are amazing... by tbase · · Score: 1

      I know it's obviously pointless, but I'll try to explain it to you anyhow. Anyone capable of writing and deploying a virus like this obviously has a certain level of intelligence. Yet the fact that they would devote their energy to something that would make so many people so miserable just to harm one company proves how stupid they are. It's similar in concept to intelligence != common sense. I'm sure you're familiar with that one, "whomever" you are.

      Sounds to me like your dixie cup is half empty, but your grammar cup overfloweth. Capital punishment for grammar offenses. Maybe you can get that in the next US PATRIOT act.

      I shall take my leave of you now, kind Maddam or Sir, for my terrier is asking me for the DNS server addresses for his domain registration.

      --

      666-607: 6th floor apartment of the beast
    7. Re:You guys are amazing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Anyone intentionally letting a machine become infected should have the book thrown at them. It amazes me how stupid very intelligent people can be sometimes. "

      It's like the SPEWS RBL and their disregard for collateral damage. I don't know if it's a case of intelligent people being stupid sometimes, or one of intelligent people just snapping and going off the deep end sometimes.

  110. Sympathy DDOSing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe, after reading that it DDOS's sco others have purposefully started DDOSing sco as well?

  111. Re: I don't think so by LMCBoy · · Score: 0

    He's already made the comparison, last time SCO was attacked. His cred is gone already, and in case you didn't notice, he does tend to say ridiculous things that have no basis in reality.

    --
    Liberal (adj.): Free from bigotry; open to progress; tolerant of others.
  112. The general in me APPROVES by puzzled · · Score: 1

    So SCO agrees to fight a proxy war against Open Source/Free Software and comes under the pay of Microsoft.

    They're going to get what every country that engages in a proxy war gets - their asses kicked, ruined infrastructure, and very little thanks at the end of the day. A few corrupt generals are lining their pockets. It *is* exactly like some little banana republic, isn't it?

    Now the natives in the homeland of the paymaster in this war have been subverted and they begin attacking the proxy in this war - excellent move - gives M$ *another* huge black eye on the security front and their puppet state of SCO is on the receiving end.

    I don't understand the problem - sure, fiaSCO will try to spin this as something IBM orchestrated, but is anyone listening? They've offended everyone in computing except the natives that live on the beach where Intel collects sand to make their silicon and I'm sure they'll get sued next over some 'fine grained' multitasking copyright SCO fantasizes that they have.

    SCO's web server is probably on fire right now. I think it is a moral duty of all slashdot readers to promptly mirror that site with wget so we can help 'em rebuild after the attack dies down. Lets enter the necessary wget command, count three simultaneously, and then press enter ...

    --
    I am very easy to get along with, but I don't have time to waste being nice to people who are being stupid. -Theo
  113. 9:41 EST It's working again. by Pebble · · Score: 1

    9:41 EST It's working again. :)

    1. Re:9:41 EST It's working again. by emilng · · Score: 1

      9:49 EST - no it's not

  114. I don't appreciate the emails... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As much as people want to enjoy this attack on SCO, I personally don't appreciate finding 30 infected emails in my Inbox.

  115. Why is sco.com already down? by setantae · · Score: 1

    Symantec say that the DDOS will begin on February 1st.
    Looks like SCO have taken their site down too early.

  116. Re:Open Source illegal? But Apache's okay, I guess by Trygve · · Score: 1
    From their standpoint (assuming they believe their own BS, that is), Linux belongs to them. It's their IP, so running it wouldn't be hypocritical in the slightest.

    Ahh, good point, that's very true.

  117. Re:Please, stop it with the "holier than thou"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    In addition to DDoS'ing SCO, the worm reportedly installs a backdoor, giving full access to the computer. We all know what this means... possible stolen identities, banking information, spam relays, new targeted DDoS attacks, etc.

    I'm just amazed people are still using Windows boxes connected directly to the Internet. How hard is it to download Zonealarm if you're too cheap to buy a router? Most of these people should have their computers taken away from them for their irresponsibility.

  118. Does it matter? by tblumer · · Score: 1

    Does it matter if SCO's web site goes down? I thought they only communicated using registered mail from lawyers these days, anyway.

  119. Real Human Beings by Thor+Ablestar · · Score: 3, Funny
    where real human beings take their opressors to court, and pirates initiate violent action against those they dislike.


    Thief (targeting a pistol): Money, quickly!

    Real Human Being (With a disarming smile): Mr Thief, Would you like to visit a court with me in order to resolve our conflict? I just happen to have some megabucks to spend for our litigation!

  120. linux is getting framed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what linux user knows enough about windows to write such a virus anyway?

    seriously though, people should not jump to conclusions about who wrote this. There are a lot of people who oppose linux who might think they could benefit from writing such a virus.

  121. yessssssssss die sco dieeeeeeeee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hahahahah...yessssssssssssssss.die sco die....................heheheheheheh

  122. Re:Open Source illegal? But Apache's okay, I guess by Trygve · · Score: 1

    And to add to the irony, they used a closed source web server (Netscape-FastTrack/2.01) back when they were on a "Caldera, Inc." owned netblock, and didn't actually switch to Apache until August of 2002. When did their litigation begin, again? It was early 2003, right? They started using other people's open source projects right before declaring open source the bane of the free market?

  123. Get the Name Right! by markhb · · Score: 1

    They are either The SCO Group, Inc., or Caldera Systems, Inc. The Santa Cruz Operation renamed itself to Tarantella, Inc. after selling whatever it sold to Caldera. The whole oldSCO / newSCO mishmash is one of Darl & Co's favorite bits of misinformation, so PLEASE keep them straight, even when being satirical!!!

    --
    Save Maine's economy: write stuff down. All comments are exclusively my own, not my employer.
    1. Re:Get the Name Right! by CaptainAlbert · · Score: 1

      Yes, sir. :)

      OK, so I knew that (sort of), but I thought "The Santa Cruz Organisation" had more of a Nigerian-scam ring to it than any of the other candidates. Nevertheless, you have a point.

      --
      These sigs are more interesting tha
  124. Misset clocks by Gossi · · Score: 1

    To all the people adding comments saying it's not the DDoS as it's not timed to start until February 1st...

    Is your VCR clock time set right? Your Microwave? Your PC?

    Yours might be. Is your mothers, fathers, brothers, grannies? Say 2% of the infected computers have their clocks set wrong. How much is the total number of infected PCs? How much is 2% of that?

    Lots of questions, but I'd suggest that misset clocks could be causing the effects to be seen early, on a much smaller scale.

  125. Umm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Obviously SCO has a lot of enemies out there right now, but it's always sad to watch someone stoop to this level.

    Yeah. Right. But it doesn't make it any less enjoyable. Schadenfreud is what they call it, I believe. The $699 Fee Troll can suck my mancrank. We gloat over your obvious penis envy.

  126. well this is what SCO gets... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    for stockpiling WMD (weapons of mass destruction)...oops wrong thread... ;)

  127. Lets SCO claim it was "Linux hackers" by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Without probe of who it was that can be construed as libel, or whatever it is called in the US.

    If SCO is attacked they should pursue this with the appropriate authorities. I hope the perpetrator is caught, brought to justice and fairly punished.

    The OSS community should be completely unambigous about this matter, illegal means have never been supported or encouraged in order to promote the aims of OSS, not only because it is immoral but also completely unnecessary and childish.

    I am appalled that the response of many around here is "SCO deserves it". No dear slashbots, nobody deserves that their resources are abussed in this manner, not even SCO. I am behind them in any action they wish to pursue against the perpetrators, but equally I hope (perhaps in vain) that they will not do false claims without the knowledge of whom and why did this.

    I am also peeved that people here are not unambigious about the condemnation of this DOS attack. This is not only illegal and immoral but also counter productive and it would be nice to see complete and unambigous condemnation of these tactics.

    Do you want to show OSS tactics and aims are reasonable and beneficial? A wonderfule way would be for true hackers organizing themselves and try to identify, shame and denounce the perpetrators of this (or any other) charade.

    Only because people have remained silent and unwilling to help the Internet, bit by bit, little by litte, is being taken away from us, but alas, we have not protected it as it deserves.

    --
    IANAL but write like a drunk one.
  128. I'm doing my part ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... while the virus does its part.

    1.) Virus DDoS'es www.sco.com
    2.) Set default homepage to www.sco.com in Firebird.
    3.) Tabbed browsing to default homepage as set above.
    4.) ??? (something magical happens here)
    5.) Slashdotted!

  129. Re: Easy there... by Quantum-Sci · · Score: 1

    It would seem that the real goal is to show how many people are stupid enough to still click on attachments when they have no idea what the fuck they are.

    Eaaasy, big fella. All three of the virus emails I got yesterday had attachments named body.zip and test.zip. (to smuggle through corporate firewalls) Inside these were a single file, like body.txt-----------------.scr or document.html-----------------.scr (instead of -'s, spaces, and lots of them), so it looks like a harmless file to non-experts. We've always told them to not click on executable attachments.

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    Campaign finance reform is national security.
  130. No, his friends think hes cool by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    And to him ( or her ), that is all that matters.

    Plus he gets his kicks out of all the press his little 'toy' is getting...

    The damage that is being done ( in lost resources, not actual physical damage ) and the lost dollars dont effect him... its just the 'cool' factor among his buddies.

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    ---- Booth was a patriot ----
  131. Get your facts straight... by JRHelgeson · · Score: 4, Informative
    The DDoS against SCO.com doesn't start until the infected machine is rebooted any time after February 1, 2004 at 00:00:01 and will continue until the machine is rebooted after February 12, 2004. At that point in time, the DDoS will stop and the infected host will keep its back door open - listening on ports 3127 to 3198 TCP (It only listens on one port, but if 3127 isn't available it'll listen on the next port on up the chain). Presumably, after 12 Feb, the infected machine will be used as a spam relay as the virus obviously has Message Transfer capabilities encoded within it.

    The graphs that are linked to in the /. story simply illustrate that SCO's shxt keeps on crashing - which is not really suprising after Darl had to fire the network admin to feed his Lawyer habit.

    --
    Good security is based upon reality and common sense. Common sense is a function of having common knowledge.
    1. Re:Get your facts straight... by Fr33z0r · · Score: 1
      The graphs that are linked to in the /. story simply illustrate that SCO's shxt keeps on crashing - which is not really suprising after Darl had to fire the network admin to feed his Lawyer habit.
      It's also entirely possible some dumbasses figured they could get the boot in (so to speak) and take this opportunity to attack SCO on their own.

      If they're getting DoSed from everywhere at once, how are they going to catch the little guys who *mean* it?

      Well, if the little guys who mean it didn't realise the main DoS was due to start for a few days, then they may very well have shot themselves in the foot... Internet Darwin awards anybody? :D
    2. Re:Get your facts straight... by JRHelgeson · · Score: 1
      True, but you can't discount the fact that Darl is now administering his own network [Darl: I swear the terminal told me to bash it] without having even a basic understanding of the GPL or who the hell wrote the Kernel in the first place.

      Darl: Wasn't Linus the character in the Snoopy cartoon? I loved that cartoon. He seemed like a nice guy, not like someone that'd steal my code...

      --
      Good security is based upon reality and common sense. Common sense is a function of having common knowledge.
  132. He will be half right. by Kernel+Kurtz · · Score: 1

    We do all hate him.

  133. Another reason they might be up and down by infernalC · · Score: 1

    Lets all take a look at what Netcraft has to say about SCO's hosting setup today...

    Hmmm... looks like they switched operating systems on January 27, 2004. Notice the table at the bottom of the page. They used to be running Apache on a Linux kernel up until today. Now it is Apache on 'unknown'. Perhaps that explains the downtime.

    /me places tounge in cheek

    They might be switching from GNU/Linux systems to something a little bit more suited to enterprise environments.

    1. Re:Another reason they might be up and down by Zocalo · · Score: 1
      They might be switching from GNU/Linux systems to something a little bit more suited to enterprise environments.

      You must mean BSD, because you can't possibly mean MS Windows or (God forbid) SCO Unixware! ;) Of course, it's probably still Linux, but they've just changed the kernel parameters enough to obfuscate the fingerprint.

      --
      UNIX? They're not even circumcised! Savages!
    2. Re:Another reason they might be up and down by Mr.+Hankey · · Score: 1

      > They might be switching from GNU/Linux systems to something a little bit more suited to enterprise environments.

      I don't agree about the "more" suited bit, but I'll skip the flamebait. The real question is, why would they do a thing like that? They're hardly an enterprise environment outside of litigation. Given their current business model, Linux is overkill.

      Outside of a DDOS, they're probably just as well with PWS running off some Windows 98 box. More likely they're just hiding behind a proxy service like Akamai, as MS did in a similar situation. Imagine that, SCO using tactics borrowed from MS. ;-)

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      GPL: Free as in will
  134. Translations: by MyHair · · Score: 1

    emacs: meta-f meta-f meta-f meta-f meta-f meta-f meta-f meta-f meta-f meta-f meta-f meta-f eir

    vi: w w w w w w w w w w w l l c w eir

    notepad:cntrl-<right arrow> cntrl-<right arrow> cntrl-<right arrow> cntrl-<right arrow> cntrl-<right arrow> cntrl-<right arrow> cntrl-<right arrow> cntrl-<right arrow> cntrl-<right arrow> cntrl-<right arrow> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> eir

    If that's too hard, use mouse to highlight "ir" and type eir.

    1. Re:Translations: by 3.1415926535 · · Score: 1

      Or you could type :%s/is/eir/ or /is<RET>cweir<ESC>.

      Admittedly, that's still pretty bad.

  135. Re: Martyrdom? Nah. by Quantum-Sci · · Score: 1

    They'd get alot less mileage from martyrdom, than they'd lose for the embarassment of being down.

    This is complicated though, by the fact that they actually run Linux, LOL.

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    Campaign finance reform is national security.
  136. Not the intended effect by unoengborg · · Score: 4, Funny

    Doing DDoS on SCO just makes people feel sorry for them. They do not deserve that.

    Besides SCO doesn't need the internet as they hardly can expect to have any real customers left.

    Nowdays their business model is based purely on litegation. To my knowledge lawsuits are delivered by hand, so a DDoS would not disturb their business at all.

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    God is REAL! Unless explicitly declared INTEGER
    1. Re:Not the intended effect by Skavookie · · Score: 1

      God is REAL! Unless explicitly declared INTEGER

      But the reals, let alone the integers (unless you mean Gaussian integers), are not algebraically complete. Does it not seem plausible that God must be, at the very least, complex? In fact, since God is transcendental, algebraic completeness is merely neccesary and not sufficient (which doesn't rule out the complex field, but it does rule out the Gaussian integers).

  137. could it be???? by Ravenrage · · Score: 0
    iirc sco has to produce the evidence in the ibm on the 6th i find it kinda interesting that the worm runs from the first to the 12th any one else see a problem here???????

    i think sco released this virus themselves.it does seem a little funny

  138. Re:Open Source illegal? But Apache's okay, I guess by Lxy · · Score: 1

    Maybe they paid themselves the $699 to use a linux web server, then proclaimed themselves as a customer?

    --

    There is no reasonable defense against an idiot with an agenda
    :wq
  139. "always sad to watch someone stoop to this level" by CaffeineBasedLifeFrm · · Score: 1


    No it's not. I thoroughly enjoy it.

  140. Heard in the halls of SCO by scoove · · Score: 4, Funny

    [Darl] You see the stock yesterday? Kept going down. And hard. I even heard the analysts are onto our scam.

    [Bob] Yup. It's getting just plain impossible to dump this stock anymore. What do we do? We got hammered on that 'dog ate our homework' line on our court filing last week. What do you think David? You guys did a bang up job making it look like Gore won Florida when there was no way a recount would ever show that. Hell, half the country still believes that 'selected, not elected' crap.

    [Boies] Well I always say, play offense, not defense. We need to get the public back on our side. Control the spin. You know, make us out to be the victim again. It plays into these schmucks capability for pity.

    [Darl] I got it! What if we were being attacked by evil hackers again? (laughs)

    [Boies] Bingo. What can your geeks whip up quick, Darl?

    [Darl] Well they sure ain't coding operating systems and their time spent looking for code violations in Linux has been a big waste. Maybe we could put them on making some sort of johnson or trojan or something that attacks our Internet connection. Bench, you think that'd help our numbers?

    [Bob] Might. What'da say Dave?

    [Boies] Hell, it'd be perfect! I'd bet it'd not only turn the PR our way, but I could put that half-assed son of Hatch's to business suing Internet service providers for causing our business damage. And if we totally bomb in court with this asshole judge, we'll just claim the whole company imploded cause of the Internet hacks and sue the pants off of every provider.

    [Darl] Love it! Hey, let's call it some prophetic name like SCO doom or our doom like those bozos at the church are always yacking about end of world crap. Should get them riled up too. And hey, it might just be true for SCO! To the bank, buddies!

    1. Re:Heard in the halls of SCO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know that this is a joke, but...

      Well, remember that Groklaw story? You know--the one where when SCO was picketed, they brought out their own signs. The ones that said things like "we support communism" or something to that effect?

      I don't put anything past SCO right now.

      I think I know what the next trick for it will be (and it's not just blaming their failure to comply on this) but I don't care to say in case that gives them ideas (and I don't put them past taking any ideas we come up with--Darl is making this crap up as he goes along... there are some longer term plans, but lots of what we see are day to day bluffs; for reference, look at all the inconsistant statements he makes--they're whatever sounds good at the time they were said).

      IBM and Novell know what they're doing. IBM is wise never to debate anything in the media; Novell is smart to make their correspondence public (note that there may have been some more before the first letters--I noticed that one of the first Novell listed mentioned something about wanting to be open about this; e.g. so that SCO had proper warning that anything from then on could be made public).

      This is quite the circus Darl is running, though, isn't it? I wouldn't blame Boies if he did not want to be personally involved in the suit at this point (the contract only states that he may show up for key bits of litigation... I'd avoid any further association with SCO like the plague if I were him...)

    2. Re:Heard in the halls of SCO by BuckaBooBob · · Score: 1

      You for got one line of Darls!

      [Darl] Oh Hey One more thing... Make sure the programmers use as many lines of our code as possible in the trojan so we can get licencing fees later on... I am not 100% sure right now how we will be able to convince the courts to let us get the fees when we sue all the people that get infected but Hey!.. Thats never stopped us before from trying! We all can go and get drunk and see what we can come up with... Come on boys!

      --
      Who needs WiFi when we can have Packet Over Sheep! http://datacomm.org/PoS-InternetDraft.txt
    3. Re:Heard in the halls of SCO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Political commentary on slashdot is like vomit calling poop stinky.

    4. Re:Heard in the halls of SCO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You guys did a bang up job making it look like Gore won Florida when there was no way a recount would ever show that. Hell, half the country still believes that 'selected, not elected' crap.

      Moderate parent down flamebait. Not only is it wrong on too many levels to comprehend, it's irrelevant.
    5. Re:Heard in the halls of SCO by cujo_1111 · · Score: 1

      You must be a republican... or new here...

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      If I point out that you are incorrect, making me a foe does not make you any more correct.
  141. is it really sad that someone uses active measures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I dont think so. If neither government, police nor anyone else can "officially" end a threat to the freedom, property and (mental) health of humans, it is necessary to help yourself and fellow citizens. This is by no means differend than a neighbourhood watch or vigilante action anywhere in the real world.

    Mod me down if you like, but my stance is, that peaceful protest only brings you so far, but not everywhere. The time of diplomacy and fair discussion with SCO is over. They did not show any interest in a peaceful solution, in a fair settlement nor in anything else that may be a sign of peace. They kept pushing harder and harder, lobbied Congress, used every dirty trick on the book and lied and manipulated wherever they could. These people will not react to friendly protest or legal action. I frankly don't see a better solution and I'm pretty sure, no one would be surprised if a certain SCO officer would have a terrible accident or is sniped away during his lunch break.

  142. I'll miss those SCO press releases.. by morelife · · Score: 2, Funny

    DDOSing SCO's web site only prevents the general public and groklaw.net from access to their ongoing press releases and Darl's bio -- I mean -- does www.sco.com get traffic for any /other/ reason? People checking for Openserver upgrades and enhancements?? The latest download of Skunkware?? A fresh copy of the $699. Linux Licensing form???

  143. myDoom and SPEWS by circusnews · · Score: 1

    With all of the debate the other day over SPEWS, anyone care to talk about what reaction SPEWS will have to those infected with this virus?

    1. Re:myDoom and SPEWS by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
      Depends. You can bet a lot of people are watching for the first spam sent by the proxy function of MyDoom. (Although spam-proxy trojans are nothing new.)

      I doubt that SPEWS will be too quick to list ISPs with infected boxes right now. This is a new virus and it takes time to react. Later if ISPs do nothing about spam-spitting infected boxes, perhaps... (IANS)

      --
      One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
  144. Hilarious. by BoomerSooner · · Score: 1

    Isn't that why Seinfeld went to jail for?

  145. It can't be too effective by Call+Me+Black+Cloud · · Score: 1

    The site came right up for me.

  146. At least they won't lose any business by PetoskeyGuy · · Score: 1

    It's not like they have any customers left. Who would be going to their site anymore?

  147. To Whoever Did It... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    You are playing into their hands, child...and I mean "child".

    It may you feel better, but it allows SCO to accumulate another martyrdom "point" that they most certainly whine about during the real battle to come.

    You are helping SCO's cause, fool.

    1. Re:To Whoever Did It... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're not helping SCO's cause, you dumbshit. You, along with everyone else who makes this claim, are fucking stupid and don't know shit about what's to come.

  148. Most hated company in tech ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Businessweek on SCO

  149. Let's not be fooled by soloport · · Score: 1

    Who would stand to lose the most if Linux were to gain a ubiquitous foothold? Probably not Microsoft. Think about it, there's lots and lots of money at stake in unbridled spam.

    Plan:
    1. Infect willing relays.
    2. Divert everyone's attention to poor SCO.
    3. ...
    4. Profit

    Err... 4. Spam the Universe while Linux is derided for being "that hacker software".

    Widespread Linux would make the world a harder place for spammers to live. By making Linux look bad, spammers win.

    1. Re:Let's not be fooled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's complete horseshit, if Linux managed to gain a major share of the market, you'd only see the spammers change tactics. They'd just go around and rootkit Linux boxes and/or epxloit sendmail bugs.

    2. Re:Let's not be fooled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No your remark is horseshit
      If that is true why is IIS rooted WAY more then
      Apache witch is the market leader?

      It is really poor security implementation.
      No matter how MS fan boys try to spin it.

  150. Re:Sad?? Speak for yourself... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only a moron would rate something like this overrated :)

    Fuck slashdot moron mods!

  151. Yes, this is vigilante justice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and I don't agree with it!

    Whenever it looks like legal recourses are not serving the cause of justice, then poeple will get frustrated and try to create their own justice.

    This case has dragged on far too long with no muzzle being applied to Darl and Co. I mean, come on, it took Germany a matter of weeks to shut SCO up in a completely legal manner. This has dragged on in America for far too long with no end in sight.

    In the last round of this legal battle, they were ordered by the courts to produce evidence of SCO code in Linux. Their response: "We need evidence from IBM to prove our case." Why in the hell doesn't the judge just throw this out? SCO admitted that they have no proof of their own and that they are counting on IBM to provide evidence of IBM's own guilt!

    This whole thing is a mockery of justice and a condemnation of the US legal system. No wonder people are resorting to vigilantism!

  152. Re:Open Source illegal? But Apache's okay, I guess by sepluv · · Score: 1

    It would be, because, as much as anyone can understand McBride (of what-is-he-smoking fame), my understanding is that he only claims that part of Linux is his (and definitely only part of GNU), therefore his company is using GPLed software (that they think is evil) (includig the stuff they claim contains their EIER aka IP) and probably distributing it under the GPL terms.

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    [This post is in the public domain (copyright-free) unless otherwise stated]
  153. Build a Better DDOS by GangstaLean · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A better DDOS would be a smtp based attack. If you flooded your enemy's MXers it would hurt them more than taking out their web site.

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    -- Bird in the Bush: The Renewable Energy Blog http://www.birdinthebush.org
  154. Funny but..... by OldGuySythe · · Score: 1

    No love lost here for SCO but I am absolutly and completely against the idea that a DDOS attack is a good thing. The open source community will be blamed for this and it would seem to me that a concerted effort by the resources in the "open source community' could actually find out who is responsible. Besides...you don't want to keep them from receiving hate mail...you want to keep them from spewing FUD....in the days of CB radio...we would have "pinned" their coax :)

  155. Cool! by bigjnsa500 · · Score: 1

    The one good worm ;)

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    This is a test. This is a test of the emergency sig system. This has been only a test.
  156. Re:Please, stop it with the "holier than thou"... by Ender+Ryan · · Score: 1
    Vigilanteeism, however, is just malice operating under false pretenses.

    I don't buy that. Vigilanteeism[sic] is taking the law into ones' own hands. Malice is not a prerequisite for such a thing, and sometimes, vigilanteism is the only avenue of justice.

    Sometimes the law is wrong, sometimes the law fails, and sometimes there is a lack of law. In those cases, vigilanteism is often an acceptable avenue of justice. The Internet was once, and sometimes still is, a modern place where lawlessness runs rampant, and many a system administrator has handed down his own rule of law, ie. engaged in vigilanteism.

    However, you are most certainly correct that in this case, the law must be given time to sort things out; doing otherwise right now only damages "our" reputation. It is possible, however remote, that the law may fail us. If it does, would certain acts of vigilanteism be acceptable? I certainly believe so, but not the sort that this discussion is about(ie. not email worms and the like).

    So, while I agree that the OP was justifying an excersie in delinquency, perhaps his heart is not in the wrong place, and I wouldn't be so quick to judge him too harshly.

    Cheers.

    --
    Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken - Tyler Durden
  157. Perfect... by Fr33z0r · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I got a copy of this virus before I left for work this morning, saw the mail and thought "ok, I don't know them and it's got an attachment, it's a virus", opened up the zip for a look though and saw the payload.

    "Fair enough, a new virus, I gotta go to work."

    Flash forward 7 hours to now and I can't *believe* what a great opportunity this virus has afforded me and no doubt countless others reading.

    The mailbox it was delivered to was a spamtrap, chances are spamtraps all over the world are being sent the real, legitimate IP addresses of spammers dumb enough to click malicious attachments.

    Viruses are bad, DoSing SCO is bad, but god damn, all this time we've been bitching and moaning about viruses when we could have been using them on spamtrap addresses to track down spammers to their *own* internet connection.

  158. Re: We need arnold, skynet is starting.... by cheekyboy · · Score: 1

    One thing is for sure, it probably WILL easily have a buffer overflow error in it to make sure NEW code can be uploaded and place anything on their or a massive super worm that would DDoS everything in site. Who knows. This could be a Commy attack ;)

    Or it could be the doing of the CIA/BushCO to then later bring in Patriot III, which would OUTLAW all non-registered ISPS/Websites and force super monitoring of ALL systems, welcome to 1984.

    --
    Liberty freedom are no1, not dicks in suits.
  159. SCO uses Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did anyone notice at the bottom of the netcraft page http://uptime.netcraft.com/perf/graph?site=www.sco .com that SCO seems to have switched to Linux (from SCO Unix) on their servers back in August, 2002?

    I guess SCO Unix just wasn't cutting it...

  160. Sad but hilarious by Techmaniac · · Score: 1

    Sad because the talent is lost on childish pranks such as this. Hilarious because it's happening to SCO. The market has spoken!

  161. www.sco.com by preclose · · Score: 1

    The page cannot be displayed The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. The Web site might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you may need to adjust your browser settings.

    Brings a tear to my eye.....

  162. If SCO ran Ninnle... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...this never could have happened!

  163. *chomp chomp* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ok, I'll bite; What has Greenpeace done to belong in that list of nutbags? How can you mention religios nutbags and forget Scientology?

    1. Re:*chomp chomp* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Disagreed with the Cato institute of course! You know that's an instant way to lose all credibility. The Cato institute is one of the finest thinktanks in the world, and their expertise in issues like economics and the free market makes them experts in the causes of global warming.

  164. The really funny thing about this virus... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is that it's really a bit contradictory. Most people who are vehemently against SCO use Linux... and their computers won't be infected. So it really doesn't make sense that this was written by someone in the OSS community. They would most suredly write something that allowed people on Linux to play along.

    But given my experience with the OSS people... they wouldn't do it this way. They'd send out a mass communication asking be to voluntarily ping SCO.com as many times as possible on a particular date.

  165. Honestly children... by raytracer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Get over it. Yes, SCO is a company that appears to be litigating themselves into profitability, at least until they can manage a stock dump. Yes, they are lobbying Congress with lies about the GPL and the open source movement.

    But this doesn't justify a lynch mob. What you are doing is illegal.

    If that doesn't convince you, think of the millions of people whose days are inconvenienceda and/or wrecked. Don't you think that their misery far exceeds any temporary hurt you could deal to SCO? It's not like they need to have a whole lot of internet connectivity to litigate their cases. If anything, being DOS'ed helps them make their point.

    Think of the big picture. Act responsibly.

  166. SPF by koehn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Now this is something that SPF could actually help with: when the virus sends a message with a spoofed from (and HELO, based on what I'm seeing) address, the mail server will read the SPF TXT record, figure out that that address is NOT allowed to send messages for that domain, and nuke the message. Even without anti-virus software.

    All that said, I'm feeling really lucky to have installed amavis-new/clamav last night. I didn't even know this was coming, and it's caught about 200 messages already this morning.

  167. This is just so, well, SCO... by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 1

    This SMACKS of SCO.

    I would lay BIG MONEY on it that SCO paid some Russian 1337357 to do this.

    How much you wanna bet??

  168. what is there to DDoS? by bigpat · · Score: 1

    It isn't like they are distributing products from their website or have any new customers going to their website. The only place you can hurt SCO these days is in the courts, because that is where they are doing business.

  169. Microsoft Windows Enables Terrorism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think this is a clear cut case where the windows platform is being used as a tool to conduct terrorist activities. I think it should be banned.

  170. Article gone by Gordo_1 · · Score: 1

    Anyone notice they (temporarily?) took this article off the Slashdot main page? Slashdot was probably contributing to the DDoS. Prudent thing to do I suppose...

  171. Do I want this one? by Frobozz0 · · Score: 1

    Okay, hear me out... do I WANT this virus? I think I might. Hmmm...

    --
    "Politicians find new names for institutions which under old names have become odious to the people."
  172. Send worm to me please! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd be glad to allow a virus attack SCO. How do I get a copy?

  173. Reporters are already spinning it that way :-( by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now "the open source community" is being blamed for writing this...

  174. What about the self-infected? by The1Genius · · Score: 1

    It would be interesting to find out who out there would infect their own machines or allow their machines to be infected and not clean the virus out just because they WANT to take part in a DDOS of SCO. For all those that agree that SCO is a basket full of idiots and want to do something that will 'fight back' but don't quite have the means to do a DOS themselves - This may be an option for them...

    Just a thought...

    --
    The1Genius - Littera Scripta Manet
  175. Attention all coders: by TachyonAT · · Score: 1

    We need some of you guys to crack this thing and set it to also attack the RIAA come on, you know its for the greater good

  176. H0M35734D1NG 7he 13375pH3R3 by HopeOS · · Score: 1
    An excerpt from a recent text by a prominent internet anthropologist.
    After observing a contradiction between the official ideology defined by script kiddie culture and the actual behavior of worm writers, I examine the customs which regulate the 'mad pr0pz' and authorship of virus software. I show that they imply an underlying theory of property rights homologous to the '1 ownz joo!' principal of acquisition. I then relate that to an analysis of the script kiddie community as a 'loudest fart wins' culture in which participants compete for prestige by DDOS'ing public resources, defacing prominent websites, and bragging about their exploits in IRC. Finally, I examine the implications of this analysis for conflict resolution in the culture, and develop some prescriptive implications. - Eric S. Raymond, Fat Worms and Flat Worms, Musings on 1337 Script Kiddies by an Accidental Bystander
  177. I am simply SHOCKED! by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 1

    FOR SHAME! I can not believe that ANYONE here would even CONSIDER doing something like this. I am SHOCKED! Simply SHOCKED! al queda SHOCKED, I say. Communist conspiracy It is unimaginable that a true Open Source advocate would do something like this, I am simply SHOCKED! Fidel Castro SHOCKED, I am. This really undermines the intergety of the whole movement RMS picking fleas out of his beard and everything we stand for. SHOCKED is not a strong enough word for this dastardly dead, and I know that nobody here at Slashdot would ever do anything like this everyone and their bastard brother. This is just a SHOCKING thing, and I for one, am SHOCKED! Whoever has done this bad thing that truly SHOCKS me your sister, needs to sit down and take a long hard look at them selves Che Guevara. SHOCKED! I simply do NOT believe that any true Open Source advocate everyone on the planet would do something like this. I am SHOCKED!

    --
    "Who are in control, they are not in control of anything - they don't even control themselves!" - Glen Beck
    1. Re:I am simply SHOCKED! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SHOCKED and AWED!

      Free the source! It is your RELIGIOUS DUTY!

  178. They ought to change the name... by Illbay · · Score: 1

    ...to the Schadenfreude Worm.

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    Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
  179. Microsoft Not Getting Money's Worth by PonyHome · · Score: 1

    Of course, with the theories about MS being behind SCO's campaign, and SCO attacking itself to gain sympathy, it's obvious Microsoft isn't calling the shots. Nothing has hurt MS in the market more than the easy proliferation of viruses and owned machines.

  180. Actually, it does make Microsoft look bad... by burnin1965 · · Score: 1
    From the McAfee security bulletin:

    When this file is run, it copies itself to the WINDOWS SYSTEM directory as taskmon.exe

    %SysDir%\taskmon.exe
    (Where %Sysdir% is the Windows System directory, for example C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM)


    The Windows operating system has a very insecure design which has been apparent for years and yet Microsoft continues to use the same insecure paradigm again and again, version after version.

    Seems to me you can't blame Microsoft's stupidity on their dumb users.

    burnin
    1. Re:Actually, it does make Microsoft look bad... by soulhuntre · · Score: 1

      Since Winsows 2000 there has been no reason to run your daily activities under an administrator account there is no "security flaw" here either - just bad administration.

      A user in any of the places I admin who ran this virus would do no damage - because they simply do not have access to over-write that file.

      --
      --> Fight tyranny and repression.... read /. at -1!
    2. Re:Actually, it does make Microsoft look bad... by vondo · · Score: 1
      I don't think that's right. I can't run Warcraft except as administrator, I think, so it's not like I'm going to log into a special crippled account to surf the web when I can't play games in that mode.

      Maybe there is a security setting I'm missing, though, since I use Windows so infrequently,

  181. RIAA by SpyPlane · · Score: 2, Funny

    The RIAA did it.

    1) Attacks users of Kazaa
    2) Attacks evil corporation on top and finally returns RIAA to their hard fought spot!

    --
    "We need a fourth law of Robotics: Stop Fingering My Wife"
  182. DDoS Seems to have started ?? by soupa · · Score: 1

    www.sco.com seems to be having issues.

    It has failed to load from multiple locations around the globe.

    I thought it was for FEB ? hmmm interesting.

  183. Too Late by cgenman · · Score: 1

    Monsanto already patented that business model.

  184. Really? by fudgefactor7 · · Score: 1

    "Obviously SCO has a lot of enemies out there right now, but it's always sad to watch someone stoop to this level."

    Why do I have the feeling that if it was Microsoft being DOSed your statement would be more along the lines of "go get 'em!"? Is it because it was most likely an OSS/GNU/Linux person who wrote the malware and you're just trying to cover for them?

    I'm sorry, but I smell hypocracy.

    1. Re:Really? by iapetus · · Score: 1

      Shame you can't spell it. Try simpler words, like 'straw' and 'man', and look back at the coverage of Blaster.

      And quite how accusing someone of being sad for stooping to set up a DDoS counts as 'covering for them' is a mystery...

      --
      ++ Say to Elrond "Hello.".
      Elrond says "No.". Elrond gives you some lunch.
    2. Re:Really? by fudgefactor7 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And you can go back and look at the discussions with many people who all played the tune of "fuck Microsoft". Being a spelling Nazi doesn't prove your point; neither does crying strawman when the case is not warranted. Too many people on /. complain when anything hurts their precious Linux or any OSS project (even if the OSS project [or Linux] violates international laws), but if something harms the company-we-love-to-hate their backs are turned and then the snickering begins.

  185. Nobody Touch Nothin' by HopeOS · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Any attempt to involve yourselves in this will be viewed as complicit behavior. Do not get this mess associated with Open Source developers in any way, shape, or form. The culture and purpose of worm authors and OSS developers are completely orthogonal and must remain so.

    SCO has enough enemies to worry about, and they can point fingers all they want. They do not deserve an olive branch, they did not ask for one -- do not take the bait and proactively offer one. You will lose fingers.

    -Hope

    1. Re:Nobody Touch Nothin' by Jerhiak · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but more than SCO's precious website is at stake here. You've forgotten all of the machines that are getting infected in the crossfire. Also, as a lot of people have mentioned, this could just be the word of spammers and scammers, both of which would be more interested in exploiting all of the chaos while SCO and the Linux geeks are taking all of the bad press. Are you suggesting we just leave everyone else to rot because doing so might make the attack on SCO a little more severe?

  186. SCO probably just paid for it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go and ask Microsoft black ops, they're fighting for their survival. A large-scale movement of openness across the planet will make some corporations and The Cabal (in the Winston Churchill meaning of it, google it up) collapse as people re-think their values and if it is worthwhile to shell out money for everything.

  187. Too much time on my hands... by T-Kir · · Score: 1

    ...so I thought I'd try the imaginary URL and see the response, and that certainly surprised me (using the above link):

    Document Not Found

    To find the document you're looking for, please see our company sitemap

    or use the following search:

    If you're having problems with a broken link, send us your e-mail and we'll find the page for you. If the page is on the Linux Documentation Project site (http://www.sco.com/LDP/), email feedback@linuxdocs.org

    How long have they been 'battling' Linux?!

    --
    Are you local? There's nothing for you here!
  188. The Public Wants a Fair Fight by HopeOS · · Score: 2, Insightful

    SCO has been steadily losing credibility since their first accusations. For OSS developers to initiate a DDOS on SCO would be seen as a strike below the belt, and a completely unnecessary one as well.

    This is one of the reasons that I don't believe it was created by anyone in the OSS community. The general concensus has been to wait for IBM to knock SCO clear out of the ring in just under two weeks. A DDOS at this time would be completely unexpected and anticlimactic. It's more likely a private joke in the distributed spam world, and locating and bringing those idiots to justice would be time well spent.

    -HopeOS

  189. Patches don't help by Theatetus · · Score: 1

    This seems to be a trend lately in worms: this isn't targeting any software vulnerability, it's just targeting dumb users. I hate to say this, but like the past couple of big worms, this one isn't really Microsoft's fault. Even with a more POSIX-like user security model, if the user can send mail the OS can host a worm like this.

    --
    All's true that is mistrusted
    1. Re:Patches don't help by allism · · Score: 1

      The user doesn't really even have to be able to send mail (as in having an email program) - the worm has its own SMTP engine.

    2. Re:Patches don't help by Kent+Recal · · Score: 1

      But with a proper firewall (iptables ruleset) the worm wouldn't be listening on any port and maybe not connecting to the outside world either.

  190. I thought the wrapper was clever by stuffduff · · Score: 1
    Before the idiots who were sending it out got it quite right there were a few goofs, a couple of which I got. I thought it was clever to simulate the bounce of an outbound e-mail rather than the usual spam wrapper.

    As for SCO, when the full scope of the cost of all their crap is finally added up, I'm sure it will have cost Americans more than all the Terrorists we have faced since 1776. He'll make Enron look like a swiped candybar.

    But hey; that's GREED for you.

    --
    "Can there be a Klein bottle that is an efficient and effective beer pitcher?"
  191. Same mistake again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Releasing a virus/worm which attacks on a future
    date lets anti virus soft guys and web site
    maintainers thank you for helping them to defend
    against your brain dead attack.

    Imagine a worm which doesn't wait until URLs are
    changed, routers are reprogrammed or anti virus
    soft is rewritten...

  192. Re: Easy there... by Cruciform · · Score: 1

    I tell my family and co-workers that unless you were expecting the attachment, don't open it. Doesn't matter what kind of file it is. Save it to a /suspect directory where it can be scanned later or you can verify that the person sending it did.

    The number of people I know that click on anything has dropped considerably. There's a couple that would get infected even if the file was called "Data_Destroying_Spam_Serving_Executable.zip", but they'll never come around.

    It's like people driving into a pothole to see how deep it is.

  193. SCO sets out to sue myDoom by Nuclear_Loser · · Score: 1

    This just in.
    SCO annouces that they will sue the creators
    of the myDoom worm for infringing to SCO's
    intellectual property.

    SCO claims that several lines of code in the
    myDoom worm were stolen from UNIX, but thus far
    SCO has failed to show the infringing code.

    More at eleven.

    --


    You've got 8% of my love - 8% of my love - 8/100's of the time you're the only girl I'm dreaming of.
  194. Meanwhile, for Postfix admins... by sunset · · Score: 4, Informative

    I just created and installed a Postfix remedy for this recent deluge, and thought I'd pass it on.

    In main.cf, insert this:

    body_checks=pcre:/etc/postfix/virus_body_checks

    Create a file virus_body_checks containing this:

    /^TVqQAAMAAAAEAAAA\/\/8AALg/ REJECT Microsoft executable attachments are not allowed here.
    /^UEsDBAoAAAAAA...OzDKJx\+eAFgAAABYAA/ REJECT Attached zip file appears to contain a virus.

    If anyone has an improved solution, let me know, but this seems to work.

    1. Re:Meanwhile, for Postfix admins... by TwinkieStix · · Score: 3, Informative

      I would have moderated this as informative, but I'm going to reply instead. We're going to take your idea and change it in two ways. First, it appears that the virus is forging the senders address, so we shouldn't reply to the message because it causes undue hysteria. Instead, we're going to simply send the virus to /dev/null with a procmail script after postfix gets the message:

      :0 B
      * ^UEsDBAoAAAAAA...OzDKJx\+eAFgAAABYAA
      /dev/null

      Does this work for everybody? We haven't gotten another e-mail since implimenting it.

    2. Re:Meanwhile, for Postfix admins... by MrBlue+VT · · Score: 1

      YES, definately do not send back a reply. I've gotten about 5,000 copies of the virus in my personal mailbox and about 1,000 auto replys from virus filters who just blindly send the message to the From: field. I think the virus just generates random emails with common first names, and is thus using my email address a whole lot.

      I hate this virus with a passion.

  195. Guy's a prick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
    one guy in the group who came out in a lawn chair with a six pack and watched it all happen. Raised his beer with a "Hell yea!"

    I would have asked him whether he did the same thing on September 11th. There's nothing amusing about being an ignorant asshole.

    1. Re:Guy's a prick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder how long until Goodwin's Law includes 9/11 references.

      This line added to beat the lameness filter. Sucks when your point is so.. simple.

  196. Re:Survival strategies for street games? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I remember 2036 very clearly. It is difficult to describe 2036 in detail without spending a great deal of time explaining why things are so different. In 2036, I live in central Florida with my family and I'm currently stationed at an Army base in Tampa. A world war in 2015 killed nearly three billion people. The people that survived grew closer together. Life is centered on the family and then the community. I cannot imagine living even a few hundred miles away from my parents. There is no large industrial complex creating masses of useless food and recreational items. Food and livestock is grown and sold locally. People spend much more time reading and talking together face to face. Religion is taken seriously and everyone can multiple and divide in the heads.

  197. Maybe they will follow Microsoft's example... by KaLoSoFt · · Score: 1

    ...and subscribe for caching services from Akamai.
    Hey, they could offer a free Linux binary licence for Akamai in exchange for the services :)
    Akamai uses a few thousand Linux servers to ballance load to it's clients' machines and Microsoft had to hide behind them when MSBlaster attacked their windows update site

  198. Apache on Linux? by scoove · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Anyone notice the bottom of the Netcraft report (under OS, Web Server and Hosting History for www.sco.com)?

    unknown Apache 27-Jan-2004 216.250.128.12 NFT

    Linux Apache 12-Dec-2003 216.250.128.12 NFT

    Now we know why they were too busy to respond to the judge's discovery order - they were getting their website converted over to another OS (or hiding that the OS was Linux).

    Curiously, the netcraft site shows they tried this for a day earlier in December and presumably had problems with the cutover. The full Netcraft report shows an interesting evolution in webservers:

    unknown Apache 27-Jan-2004 216.250.128.12 NFT
    Linux Apache 12-Dec-2003 216.250.128.12 NFT
    unknown Apache 11-Dec-2003 216.250.128.12 NFT
    Linux Apache 3-Sep-2003 216.250.128.12 NFT
    Linux Apache 21-Aug-2003 216.250.140.112 NFT
    Linux Apache/1.3.14 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.7.1 OpenSSL/0.9.6 PHP/4.3.2-RC 17-Jun-2003 216.250.140.112 NFT
    Linux Apache/1.3.14 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.7.1 OpenSSL/0.9.6 PHP/4.0.3pl1 20-Nov-2002 216.250.140.112 NFT
    Linux Apache/1.3.14 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.7.1 OpenSSL/0.9.6 PHP/4.0.3pl1 14-Aug-2002 216.250.140.125 NFT
    SCO UNIX Netscape-FastTrack/2.01 13-Aug-2002 132.147.210.109 Caldera, Inc.
    SCO UNIX Netscape-FastTrack/2.01 12-Aug-2002 132.147.210.109 Caldera, Inc.

    From SCO to Linux? Linux running as recently as December 2003? Of course, since they own Linux, I guess this is ok...

  199. SCO DDOS by rockwood · · Score: 1
    Quote:
    Obviously SCO has a lot of enemies out there right now, but it's always sad to watch someone stoop to this level.

    HUH? Stoop to this level? Hell - when I found out the virus was DDOSing SCO, I intentioanlly infected all of my machines with it! :)

    After all, it's the end goal that counts... not the means by which you get there.

    --
    Never try to beat a professional at his own game!
  200. virus writing is NOT terrorism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Writing a virus is NOT terrorism. Stop equating everything stupid people do with terrorism, it only demeans the many many thousands of people around the world who have been killed by actual terrorists. The person who wrote this is a criminal and a loser, but he or she is no terrorist.

    1. Re:virus writing is NOT terrorism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ever heard of a metaphor, you codpiece?

      Oh, you'd prefer "writing a virus is like... like... like writing a virus, damn their black virus-writing hearts!!"

  201. someone should bulk email that to nigeria by bobsalt · · Score: 1

    :D

  202. Send in the black helicopters by Analogy+Man · · Score: 1

    One thing those of us out here won't find is the truth. I see you were scored zero...shouldn't be. My observation was just the same. Why not let their site get whacked...it is not like they have business to do right?

    --
    When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
  203. Idea for catching the virus writers? by schmiddy · · Score: 1

    I was just thinking about this after getting copies of this crap in an inbox of an email address I've only given out to a few people. The return addresses were indeed spoofed from places like foo@travelocity.com , but I'm still able to narrow the possible culprits down to the few people who know my address. So.. how about this. Get together with the admin of a reasonably popular forum that's scoured by spammers. Whip up a script that will create a unique email address for each IP address that visits, such as HASHOFADDRESS@foo.com , and is displayed on the pages. When you start getting these viruses in the mail, just check which IP the email address corresponds to. With luck, you'll find the virus writers scouring for more addresses. At the very least, you'll catch a spammer or two.

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  204. The Finger-Pointing has Begun! by LowLoki · · Score: 1
    There's an article about the worm on CNN's front page... In the article, the following quote:

    Virus experts suggested MyDoom's author was a fan of the Linux open source community, because the bug, which targets computers running Microsoft Windows, launched a Denial of Service Attack on SCO's site. Utah-based SCO Group, owner of the UNIX operating system, claims some versions of the Linux operating system use its proprietary code.

    "The MyDoom worm takes the Linux Wars to a new intensity," said Chris Belthoff, an analyst for anti-virus firm Sophos. "It appears that the author of MyDoom may have taken the war of words from the courtrooms and Internet message boards to a new level by unleashing this worm which attacks SCO's Web site."

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    1. Re:The Finger-Pointing has Begun! by LoadWB · · Score: 1

      hehehe I just saw that shortly after you did and in a fit of rage posted the same thing. :)

  205. Distracting the Press = Distracting the Police? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's say these virus writers ACTUALLY divert peoples anger towards the Open Source community and SCO. (Why would people who actually care to read stories be stupid enough blame the Open Source community?)

    HOW would distracting the press and a few clueless people actually help the criminals? Are the police going to stop chasing them? Are anti-virus companies going to start ignoring them? Are people going to start liking SPAM all of the sudden?

    Seriously, What do the criminals get out of it other than enjoying sticking it to SCO.

    1. Re:Distracting the Press = Distracting the Police? by pjrc · · Score: 1
      HOW would distracting the press and a few clueless people actually help the criminals? .... Seriously, What do the criminals get out of it other than enjoying sticking it to SCO.

      Fewer people will act quickly to clean up their systems to remove the keystroak logger, which the criminals hope will capture credit card numbers, passwords to on-line banking or paypal accounts, and other sensitive information.

      If the main message is "virus uses your computer to attack SCO", that's different than "virus is spying on you, to capture your credit card number and passwords", and ordinary people who couldn't care less about SCO, but care rather deeply about their credit card numbers, will respond differently depending on which message the media manages to deliver past their short attention spans (you know, the sort of people who saw the "computer error" and then clicked on the attachment to "solve" it without giving it a second thought).

  206. The writer is OSS??? by Jason_D_Berg · · Score: 1

    I see so many people saying that the guy who wrote this is open source...My only question is 'Then where's the source?' :-)

  207. I stand corrected by burnin1965 · · Score: 0, Troll

    I haven't used Windows since NT4, so I stand corrected.

    However, tell me this. When someone purchases a box from Dell, or picks up a shrink wrapped XP to install, do they end up with the same secure system as the one you would have put together or do they end up with an admin user?

    burnin

    1. Re:I stand corrected by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Typical shrink-wrapped dell uses XP-Home edition which is an Admin everywhere and cant be configured differently.

      XP Pro uses admin by default.

      The reason is obvious, of course, that the typical Dell customer has no concept of "Admin" vs standard user. Thier head would probably explode if you told them they had to use sudo to install thier fav screensaver or IM program.

  208. I dont think the attack on sco is because of linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think it's because of their attack on all free software. anything free, (without cost) would be banned if they have their way.

  209. Re:I wonder... by theendlessnow · · Score: 1

    SCO already looked at the MyDoom code and have determined beyond a shadow of a doubt based on the opinions of their technical developers that MyDoom could not have been written by the open source community. They suspect IBM currently.

  210. Blame users and MS alike! by SteveXE · · Score: 1

    Everyone blames Windows and MS for this bs, lets be honest for a second, if Linux had as many users as Windows there would be virus's for that too, maybe not as many but they would show up. It cant be stopped, no code can ever be perfect or free of bugs and when you have billions of people using the same software finding and exploiting bugs can be as easy as going to google.

    Lets face facts, if more windows users took an hour and learned a little bit more about how their pc and the internet works, and how to protect themselves the world would be a better place. I know 5 windows users who have NEVER update their anti virus software or installed a single patch, i know 7 people who leave their pc on 24/7, have broadband yet dont use a firewall, yes i know some fault has to go to MS but if it werent for the idiots of the world who are to lazy to learn about the basics of security and virus's we wouldnt have these problems.

  211. To everyone running that virus by alexdm · · Score: 0

    be sure to license it first!.

    dont want a lawsuit on your hands, now do you?

  212. Blocking the virus on the mail server by eadz · · Score: 1

    I don't know about you, but I don't want to /download/ the virus.

    For those blocking at the server level, please silently drop, DON'T BOUNCE the message, as it has spoofed from addresses. E.g. 1000s of these bounce messages:

    host xxx: 550-message rejected -- looks like a virus 550 (attachment 'file.zip' contains executable file

    are as bad as 1000 viruses..

    1. Re:Blocking the virus on the mail server by sunset · · Score: 1

      550 would be the SMTP response code, not a bounce, and does not care about forged headers. It's highly preferred to reject unacceptable mail at the front door like this, than to accept the mail and then figure out later that you don't want it.

      But once you have accepted the mail, your point is perfectly valid.

    2. Re:Blocking the virus on the mail server by eadz · · Score: 1

      I copied the 550 from the bounce message. So yes, it is a SMTP response code.. but from a bounce message, that also contained the complete attachments.

      USER A gets the viris
      The virus then spoofs an email FROM me to SERVER A
      SERVER A then sends me a bounce message.

  213. Clock Set Wrong? by EmagGeek · · Score: 1

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  214. In my inbox today by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I found this message, the funny part about it is the forged headers.

    A FREE SERVICE FOR SUBSCRIBERS OF JAYWALK INTERACTIVE CC
    Free virus scanning, and improved SPAM control
    Call +27.21.790-7459

    The Declude Virus v1.75 software on lodestone.co.za has reported that you
    sent an E-mail to allan@lodestone.co.za, containing the W32/Mydoom.A@mm virus in the
    test.zip attachment. The subject of the E-mail was "hi".
    The E-mail containing the virus has been quarantined to prevent further damage.

    Headers Follow:
    Received: from xxx.org [193.253.216.105] by mail.directories.co.za with ESMTP
    (SMTPD32-8.02) id AEC126B020E; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 15:59:29 +0200
    From: xxx@xxx.org
    To: allan@lodestone.co.za
    Subject: hi
    Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 14:56:22 +0100
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
    boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_1330887B.A92835D B"
    X-Priority: 3
    X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
    Message-Id:

    Virus Name = W32/Mydoom.A@mm
    Virus File = test.zip
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    [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus and Jaywalk Interactive]
    [Mail is also scanned to reduce SPAM using statistical and other methods]

    *sigh*

  215. Pirates! by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

    Yarr!

    Heave to and prepare to pay yer $799, ya scaliwags!

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  216. Offer hosting! by spitzak · · Score: 1

    Why doesn't OSDL or somebody with enough machines to handle this DDOS offer to host the SCO site for free? Offer to put it on some machines so that if the DDOS is big enough to take them down it will also take down some OSS sites like SlashDot. If SCO turns them down it is proof that SCO wants this DDOS to happen, and a press release to this effect can be done.

    I agree that some spam house wrote this and the intention is to install a backdoor. And the virus writer likely has a vendetta against the "Linux community" and wants it to get bad publicity. They probably don't care one bit about SCO.

    I also think SCO mistakenly took down their own site in anticipation of this virus, which really does not happen until Feb 1st. Watch for it to reappear later today after they read some slashdot comments pointing this out, and then promptly disappear on Feburary 1st Utah time (rather than gradually being DDos'd over a 24-hour period). The number of Windows machines set exactly 3 to 15 days ahead is a trivial number that could not DDOS anybody. Though SCO probably did not write the virus, they are certainly interested in making it look like it hurts them.

  217. the DarkSide helps out the Force by jedi_odin · · Score: 1

    looks like a few people straddle the fence when it comes to using the DarkSide to help the Force. However, in my humble opinion, they might as well go on ahead do RIAA as well. I know that I'll have a few windows boxes up and runnin just to see if I can "catch" this nasty little bugger of a bug.

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  218. Has anyone ever wondered... by lubeboy · · Score: 1

    .. if SCO is doing this themselves? Think about it... what better way to make hackers everywhere lose credibility than by releasing a virus that DoSs SCO.com?

    Then they can blame "those" linux hacktivists for causing all this trouble.
    Once again they can seem the victim.. yet again, after all, we stole their IP, and now we steal their business by knocking down their web server.

    Or maybe I've seen too many X-File/Conspiracy TV shows....

  219. Linux losers at work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If as many people hated linux as windows, there would be just as many linux viruses.

    1. Re:Linux losers at work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I belive its time for you to go buy a clue ...

  220. Hurt? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why do so many think this will "hurt" tho OS community?

    Most people know our corporate leaders snif coke, evade tax payment, bribe politicians, visit hookers and do we ever stop buying things from them?

    I'm not talking about one rotten apple, there's usually more than one rotten apple in the basket.

    If yhe OS communuty wanted to, then SCO would not be able to connect to the net, I think the OS community is recourcefull(massive) enough to do just that and even get away with it, dissapearing into the crowds,

    It takes one script kiddie to pull a stunt like this, and sure most Open Sourcers are laughing out loud.

    Eat shit MacBribe!

  221. are the scammers helping windows? by theCat · · Score: 1

    MyDoom==MiMail, that much is known. The MiMail malware runs on Windows, for the most part (know of any exceptions?) and in the past as been a tool to build spam and relay zombies for UCE and possibly criminal activity. That MyDoom would be the product of Linux supporters is immediately suspicious; far more likely (as others have already noted) it is going to do what every other MiMail variant did and that is to create zombies for organized crime, to be sold/rented to the Mafia and online gangs of Nigerian 419ers, singly and in bulk.

    Now, the windows angle. As viruses become more common, not less, Windows platforms running in mission-critical roles might decrease, not increase. This is even more likely as the Linux/SCO thing is resolved in favor of Linux remaining open and free; one can imagine something of a stampede onto Liniux or FreeBSD after the court findings. So if you were a Mafia hacker, and you were watching all this, and you thought maybe you could sort of swing things in favor of the status quo, which certainly would keep you employeed writing viri for your Boss, why not involve SCO for a few days? Maybe influence the courts, some politicians, you know the friends of Big Money. And after that, why not MSN? Microsoft could use the public forum to decry their opponents. And then DDoS maybe a combination of SCO, MSN and the the Department of Homeland Security. You know, just so it is obvious how anti-Democratic and anti-choice these Linux freaks really are. During an election cycle.

    Then sit back and let those wheels of power do their beautiful thing. With luck, Linux falls under the IP of SCO Group, the OSS community goes into shock, Linux and even FreeBSD deployments collapse, Microsoft issues an "I told you so" PR and rolls up the server market, their Trusted Computing development budget withers on the vine because they don't need it anymore to counter any external threat to their marketing drivel. Viruses run rampant for another 10 years until some later excess makes the governments of the world take action, by then too late. In the meantime the gangster are essentially printing money, they 0wnz the Internet, and r00t perhaps half the computers in the world.

    You think I'm nuts? Tin-foil hat askew? Don't ever underestimate the criminal, or political, communities.

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  222. hmm.. by micq · · Score: 1

    a worm to ddos attack SCO? where do I download it?

    Feature request for version 2: add Microsoft, **AA, and that stupid fragger on bf42 who can't seem to stop killing his own teammates to the list of targets.

  223. The problems of decentralisation by cynicalmoose · · Score: 1

    The major problem is that SCO can rush out FUD press releases about how this is an attack on their integrity caused by evil forces, a result of the open-source model, and that clearly those who write worms would not stop at stealing IP (1).

    The OS community can respond - Linus could make a press release, but so could several others, all saying different things. There is no - there cannot be an - overall coordinated response by the community to this problem.

    Under that scenario, likely SCO's release would get as much, if not more, coverage, as all the response releases put together. That makes Open Source look bad.

    1) I make no claim that such a series of press releases has or will be made.

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  224. unfortunately by twistedcubic · · Score: 1

    all this does is raise their stock price even more.

  225. Virus/Financial Damage Ratio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was wondering what the Virus/Financial Damage Ratio of this virus is on the long run...
    $ 5 billion, 10 billion ?
    It must be astronomous though...

  226. Just look the other way... by BubbaJonBoy · · Score: 2

    Moral decisions - I hate 'em.
    If I find this thing on my computer do I have to take it off? ;->

  227. Were it only so easy... by hummassa · · Score: 1

    Yeah, yesterday I tried to patch a girl I met in a club, but she slapped me in the face... Let me put my diff in your patch, baby! :(

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  228. On the contrary.... by Elusive_Cure · · Score: 2, Informative
    Quoting from parent : "all this time we've been bitching and moaning about viruses when we could have been using them on spamtrap addresses to track down spammers to their *own* internet connection."


    1. ... On the contrary, that's what honeypots all over the web do, it's a fairly effective way to back-trace spam...
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  229. Who the worm spares by neoThoth · · Score: 1
    Apart from who the worm targets I think it's interesting who the worm is sparing.
    Any of the following domains gets spared:


    avp
    syma
    icrosof
    msn.
    hotmail
    panda
    sopho
    borlan
    inpris
    example
    mydomai
    nodomai
    ruslis .gov
    gov. .mil
    foo.
    berkeley
    unix
    math
    bsd
    mit.e
    gnu
    fsf.
    ibm.com
    google
    kernel
    linux
    fido
    usene t
    iana
    ietf
    rfc-ed
    sendmail
    arin.
    ripe.
    isi .e
    isc.o
    secur
    acketst
    pgp
    tanford.e
    utgers. ed
    mozilla


    Borland, Microsoft?, packetstorm, securityfocus, stanford, rutgers, mit and the list goes on. Some are only partials and have to be figured out (eg acketst=packetstorm) but most are pretty obvious.
    the question is why they left these out. Hotmail would be a horrible vector to spread this worm, and the .mil and .gov addresses would most likely filter. Also if they didn't there would be a global manhunt till someone ended up in the military slaught^h^h^h^h^h^h^h tribunals of Camp Delta. DNS was also left out which is smart since this allows resolution to continue.

    I hate SCO too for what they are doing to the linux movement. I also don't agree with dealing with them using a worm. But this rant isn't a polictical one, this rant is technical.

    this worm is smarter then any I've seen before. It has a target, a date, and makes use of an exclusion list so as not to kill itself off. If this intellegence were in a 0day worm that didn't need the 'blended threat' model we'd all be in a lot of trouble.

  230. This is bad for Open Source by Animats · · Score: 1

    Recall that SCO is lobbying Congress for restrictions on open source. This will help their lobbying.

  231. or people have their dates set wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why make up conspiracy theories?

    With 1 in 12 emails containing this worm (cnn.com) there are a lot of infected computers. If only 0.1% of them have their date set wrong there could already be significant traffic against SCO.

  232. CNN opens is mouth; FUD spews forth by LoadWB · · Score: 1
    CNN is running an article about this now:

    Experts: Vicious worm 'Linux war' weapon

    Excerpted from the article posted 12:40PM EST:

    (CNN) -- A sneaky e-mail worm continued to clog Internet traffic Tuesday, spreading faster than previous Web bugs by appearing as an innocuous error message.

    The worm -- dubbed "MyDoom," "Novarg" or "WORM_MIMAIL.R" -- was copying itself at a fierce pace, so fast that some companies were having to shut down their mail servers to stop it. And a new clue was emerging as to the source of the infection.

    Virus experts suggested MyDoom's author was a fan of the Linux open source community, because the bug, which targets computers running Microsoft Windows, launched a Denial of Service Attack on SCO's site. Utah-based SCO Group, owner of the UNIX operating system, claims some versions of the Linux operating system use its proprietary code.

    "The MyDoom worm takes the Linux Wars to a new intensity," said Chris Belthoff, an analyst for anti-virus firm Sophos. "It appears that the author of MyDoom may have taken the war of words from the courtrooms and Internet message boards to a new level by unleashing this worm which attacks SCO's Web site."

    Below is feedback I sent to them in response:

    Re: Experts: Vicious worm 'Linux war' weapon

    What a load of media-hyped FUD. Amazing how the article doesn't mention that back door left on an infected machine which allows Internet traffic to pass through, such as SMTP (email -- for spam) and other traffic.

    As a respected news outlet, one would expect CNN to do its research on matters such as these, especially when such information is easily located:

    http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc /data/w32.novarg.a@mm.html

    Other conclusions could be drawn, such as the attack on SCO is just a diversion to the real intent of the worm. I will avoid making such conclusions, as the intentions of the writer may never be known. But you have stuck your neck out making such conclusions and slanted the provided information to that end.

    Jeordan Legon, this article ear-marks you as a piss-poor journalist, and if this tripe is what we can expect from you, I hope you never again publish a technical article.

    Anti-virus vendor: One in 12 e-mails infected

    Yeah, and 10 out of 12 are spam!

  233. Well then, I stand by my comments by burnin1965 · · Score: 1

    If that is the case, a shrink wrapped copy of XP will by default have the user as admin, then nothing has changed at Microsoft.

    Having security capability doesn't mean squat if you bypass it by default. Sounds like usual inept Microsoft to me.

    And claiming users will end up bewildered is a false assumption. There are ways around this such as installing apps in user space. This works for linux and it works for OS X. Windows simply suffers from poor design by Microsoft.

    burnin

  234. WaitaMinnit . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The SCO lawsuit is about Linux right, right?

    And Mydoom is a Windos worm/virus, right?

    So exactly how is the Linux community supposed to be involved in the authoring of it, if we are all happily wonking away on our penguins?

  235. ultimate goal? by timothy · · Score: 0

    re: "mainly that its ultimate goal is apparently to DDoS SCO":

    Maybe, but I doubt it.

    I think the ultimate goal is the same as most viruses (and it may not be clear even to the ones doing it) -- to make people dislike and distrust each other, inch by inch. In this case, the writer has tried to put a big kick-me sign on the backs of two different groups, two-for-one. Incidentally, I think that's the same goal that drives a lot of the malicious stuff posted on Slashdot and any other forum nice enough to provide a soapbox to the jerks as well as the nice guys.

    When someone posts (posted? one can hope, about a particular site with a .cx domain ...) a link to shocking or hateful stuff, or (read at -1 sometime) posts the shocking, hateful stuff itself, he's not doing it because they're nice, or because they're cute pranksters. They're expressing anger / derision / hatred / malice that they didn't learn in kindergarten to sublimate or control. If I were a psychologist, maybe you'd take more seriously my guess that they're mostly angry with their parents, if not The Whole World. It's a lot easier to ruin a conversation than take part in one as a positive contributor, and if your goal is destruction, a lot more satisfying, too.

    The same sort of people (when / if they interact with the real world) are probably tempted to kick dogs and push old ladies down stairways, pee in public pools, feed exlax to pigeons, and leave flaming lunchbags on doorsteps. Oh, well.Hopefully one day the old ladies will be armed, the dogs will bite, the pigeons will explode over their lunch, and the swimming pool incident will lead to an indecent exposure charge.

    timothy

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  236. anyone else suprised SCO is still up by mgoodman · · Score: 1

    kinda weird. i was hoping that sco.com would just stay down forever...

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  237. stooping to a new low by guacamolefoo · · Score: 1

    it's always sad to watch someone stoop to this level.

    Yeah...the next thing you know, someone will start sending out invoices to people for imaginary things that they "sold" to "customers".

  238. sad to watch someone stoop this low by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but it's always sad to watch someone stoop to this level.
    To whom are you referring, the virus writer or SCO?

  239. dream on by mabu · · Score: 1

    What makes you think this worm's objective is to DDOS SCO? I contend that's just a distraction. The worm's real intent is to create a smokescreen while opening up a back door for spammers to install proxy-relaying software. All the circumstantial evidence points more to these worms being launched by spammers who are trying to steal more IP space from which to operate. Getting entangled in the SCO debacle simply makes an excellent diversion, that will mislead investigators. Also, attacking SCO enhances their case and claim they're being "victimized", which seems to be SCO's primary business model these days.

  240. Fari medicine by adun · · Score: 1

    "Obviously SCO has a lot of enemies out there right now, but it's always sad to watch someone stoop to this level."

    WTFever. SCO's legal "strategy" is nothing more than a litigious DOS attack, filing briefs and injunctions on whatever they can, whenever they can. Those assholes had this coming.

  241. Linux @ SCO? by FlashBuster3000 · · Score: 1

    Does the History at the bottom of Netcraft SCO History mean that they're using Linux?
    Or used it in the Past?
    hehe, damn bastards!

  242. The MyDoom orc is clearly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the creature of a desperate cabal of corporate IT types mired in the vast wasteland under m$ dominion.

    These intrepid, beleaguered souls must feel certain that the SCO assault on Linux threatens to obliterate the one dim ray of hope they can glimpse shining through the miasma of spam and swirling swarms of virii arising out of the m$-infected forests of FUDdery - the gleaming outlines of free (as in RMS) software and openness in standards.

    And thus, using the only tools they have to hand, no matter that the tools are of dubious and perhaps treacherous provenance, they are counterattacking the minions of the dark forces in IT in the only way they know, in order to aid any possible relieving force bringing brighter hopes of an IBM or Novell or Sun or *anyone* Linux rollout in their workplace.

    Naaaah.

    I have to agree: it is probably devious spammers. Second guess: someone getting paid by a cutout for interests threatened by free software, because they can't sell lock-in crap when better software is freely available.

  243. Re:I never thought I'd say this... Part II by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    . . . me neither, I never thought I'd say this but. . .

    The lowly dirty execs at the SCO Group deserve every bit of this DDoS attack. I hope it brings their business to ruin. Some of you may say, that people shouldn't do this because it makes the OSS community look bad. Quite frankly, I don't give a d@mn. I'd say it is just punishment for the m0r0ns at SCO.

    My advice to SCO Group employees, workerbees, leave while you can. The SCO Group ship is going to sink and it is going to sink VERY badly and this time there will be any survivors; especially after IBM gets done with them.

    Here's a company that takes claim to other peoples work and threatens customers with a bullsh*t lawsuit if they do not pay up; yeah, right, me pay up? Who the heck are these guys(SCO) kidding?!

    I hope IBM crushes them like a fly. . . .

  244. This is what I am talking about.... by holy_smoke · · Score: 1

    http://money.cnn.com/2004/01/27/technology/techinv estor/lamonica/index.htm

    "Of worms and penguins? ....
    So where does the worm come in? Chris Belthoff, senior security analyst with privately held anti-software firm Sophos, said that it looks like the main intention of MyDoom is to launch a denial of service attack against the Web site of SCO Group. "This appears to be a facet of the Linux war," said Belthoff. "This is the first time we've seen a virus or malicious code used in this legal battle.""

    The LAST thing the Linux effort needs is the label of "a community of electronic terrorists". That would invite ALL the WROING folks into the picture (think government agencies, arrests, a general and aggressive "clamping down"). Worm attacks are not constructive - they are DEstructive.

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  245. Probably put out by SCO by Eric+Damron · · Score: 1

    SCO probably put out the virus itself and soon will be billing anyone running it.

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  246. Open Source it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whoever wrote this virus should open source it and make it for download on Sourceforge.net under the GPL. This will allow Linux hackers to make improvements to it so the anti-virus programs can't defeat it! We will shut down SCO once and for all!

  247. OMG INFORMATIVE????? Is This A Joke? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I suggest you stick with windows as being a Linux administrator is a very lonely job.

    You've got to be kidding me. Programming the backend for one website could be a full time job.

    A server farm with 500+ takes a large team.

  248. CNN: Worm is a "Linux War Weapon." by Maul · · Score: 1

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/01/27/mydoom .spread/index.html

    CNN calls the virus a "Linux War Weapon" and describes the author as being a "fan" of Linux.

    I wish these idiots would stop setting up attacks against SCO. It isn't helping a thing, it only hurts. SCO is trying to make Linux users seem like criminals, and I'm sure they are very pleased when they are attacked, since it helps them do just that.

    If you really support Linux and want to help, you should spend your time educating people about SCO's FUD. You should not write these annoying worms that make Linux users look like punks.

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  249. SCO Unix? not anymore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    huh?

    All this talk about 'DDOS this' and 'spammers back door' etc. yes, very obvious..and already covered in many many threads.

    not many comments...if at all, about the Netcraft stats.

    SCO certainly didnt keep SCO Unix for their web server. no, they are quite happy with Linux. in fact, they are quite happy with lots of Open Source to be doing their legwork for them.

  250. SCO is Prepared for This by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SCO appears to be prepared for a (D)DOS attack against their web server. A quick DNS query for www.sco.com revealed this:

    www.sco.com. 60 IN A 216.250.128.12

    If SCO is hit with a DDOS attack, they can simply change the IP address for www.sco.com to point to a mirror of their web server on a completely different network. They are able to do this by setting the time to live (TTL) value to 60 seconds (above) for the host www.sco.com, so that a change like this would essentially take 60 seconds to become active.

    Why do people attack web servers anyway? Isn't the communications system (e-mail) a better target (wink, wink)?

  251. feeding the trolls by r_j_howell · · Score: 1

    Haven't you noticed? Sco is now the oficial "Love to Hate" company of slashdot now. That's why there are so many (misguided IMHO) Let-em-burn posts on here. I appreciate seeing a grown up attitudeamong /. posters myself

  252. Karma by AvengerXP · · Score: 1

    "Obviously SCO has a lot of enemies out there right now, but it's always sad to watch someone stoop to this level."

    No, it's not. What goes around comes around. Isn't that "Karma"?

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  253. Why DDoS SCO? by rbird76 · · Score: 1

    SCO:

    1) seems to have a business plan predicated on lawsuits (their lawyers are likely to be web isolated and so not hurt by this) and press releases (which, while they probably are placed on the web, can also be sent to lots of other places and news organizations)

    2) probably doesn't have many programmers now (they don't seem to make much of a product after all) and they probably would be isolated as well.

    3) doesn't sell anything - see their revenue (if it weren't for M$ and Sun^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Htwo unnamed Fortune 500 companies, they wouldn't have much in the way of revenue at all), so losing their web portal isn't exactly catastrophic.

    A DDoS against SCO doesn't hurt them but could potentially hurt the reputation of Linux and OSS.
    If the virus was written by a Linux or OSS partisan, it was really misguided - like trying to hit Darl McBride's car with a pistol but only hitting the bumper and then getting hit by the ricochet. Of course, if the virus was written to attack SCO, the ports that the virus opens and other goodies contained in the virus which do not expire (unlike the DDoS on SCO) don't make any sense.

    Spammers, however, are logical authors for this virus. they are, after all, malicious and evil. They likely wrote the virus on which this was based. The port opening and other functions fit well the MO of spammers. as a bonus, hurting Linux might helps spammers - while Linux does have vulnerabilities, it doesn't open functionality as root by default, and the diversity of Linux variants means that Linux boxes should be harder to attack en masse. Spammers would prefer an OS monoculture - even if MS improves its security, computers (90% of which run MS OSes) will still be easier to attack than a large number of computers with diversity of OSes.

  254. I for one.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I for one welcome our new SCO doom bringers!

  255. Re:Please, stop it with the "holier than thou"... by rokzy · · Score: 1

    I said SCO deserved to be DDOS'd. that's what the story's about [hint: read the title]. where did I say anything about back doors?

    I stopped reading after "back doors". I suspect having set up a nice straw man you just tear into it for all the "Insightful" mods you can get.

  256. Stoop to what level? by VTg33k · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Slashdot DDoS's websites every day, crashing servers, costing people thousands of dollars in bandwidth, without even so much as a friendly warning... this is just another stupid virus, not a political agenda, move along, nothing to see here...

  257. Another article by Kelz · · Score: 1
  258. Alright! Who did it????? by Darth23 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I just read abot the SCO connection on CNN (busy day today). Interesting symbolism, using Microsoft Windows vulnerabilities to attack a company that's trying to 'close-source' Linux.

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  259. MOD PARENT UP by Wandering+Idiot · · Score: 1

    Only laugh I've had in this whole thread...

  260. Re:Please, stop it with the "holier than thou"... by the_mad_poster · · Score: 1

    ...says the guy who responded to 1/2 of my post like it was the whole thing.

    Here's a hint buddy: try reading more than 50% of something before you respond to it. It's amazing how much less of a dumbass you can sound like when you actually read the entire text and understand its context.

    Now, again: care to explain how SCO "deserves" someone DDoS'ing them when they are IBM's problem and IBM's problem only?

    You know, I normally don't comment on .sigs, but let's see here... if there are all these idiots around you, and you're the common demonitator, what does that actually suggest? I may be crude and rude and nasty to people, but at least I take the time to craft my responses carefully when I'm trying to make a point and don't just wildly fly off the handle and say stupid shit like your post that started this thread.

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  261. SCO desperation move by Ogman · · Score: 1

    These morons at SCO have shown that they will do ANYTHING to stay in the news. I suspect they attacked their own damned website. Unrealistic? Yeah, so is every other thing they have done in the last year.

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  262. SCO response in the press by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its main purpose, he [MessageLabs marketing chief Brian Czarny] said, is to attack and overload the website of one of the world's biggest vendors of the Unix operating system, a competitor to Microsoft Windows....Meanwhile, the apparent target of the virus, Unix operating system owner SCO Group, said it was offering a $US250,000 ($A321,667) reward for information leading to the arrest and prosecution of the virus creators.

    Utah-based SCO confirmed that it was being hit with a distributed Denial-of-Service (DDOS) attack, or bombarded with information requests in an effort to crash its central computers.

    "During the past ten months, SCO has been the target of several DDOS attacks," said Darl McBride, SCO president and chief executive.

    "The perpetrator of this virus is attacking SCO, but hurting many others at the same time. We do not know the origins or reasons for this attack, although we have our suspicions. This is criminal activity and it must be stopped."

    SCO said it was working with US law enforcement authorities including the US Secret Service and FBI in the probe.

    http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/01/28/107508 80 55588.html

  263. Re:Please, stop it with the "holier than thou"... by rokzy · · Score: 1

    It's amazing how much less of a retard you can sound when you don't start your argument by bitching about something I didn't even say.

    what's a demonitator? ...yeah, crafted REALLY carefully.

    Please explain how SCO is only IBM's problem when Darl has made it clear he believes Linux to be, among other things, a tool for terrorist states to develop WMDs and a threat to the entire US computer industry. And he has the backing of the world's richest man. And the US government isn't known for making a habit of putting people before profits when lobbied by rich companies. Or understanding technology enough to produce quality legislature (e.g. software patents, DMCA).

  264. So I'm supposed to trust my enterprise computing.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to a bunch of children who can't even obey the law? Makes me wonder what other laws Linuxs users are breaking, and how much of a case SCO really has to get them so riled up.

  265. ummm look closely at what they are running by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Umm, has anyone bothered to stop and ponder the link in the actual article?

    http://uptime.netcraft.com/perf/graph?site=www.s co .com

    that one? You'll please note at the bottom.....the dates/server types that www.sco.com is running on...... I'm not going to say anything more.

  266. SCO is offering a bounty by paranoid123 · · Score: 1

    SCO is offering a bounty of a quarter million dollars to anyone providing information that leads to the arrest of the virus writer. Here's the article.

    But what is SCO so worried about? It's not like their business model involes selling anything...

  267. Avoid a black eye by helping SCO? by ediron2 · · Score: 1
    So, since there's such a high likelihood of bad PR for Open Source, why don't we try to get *good* PR instead by stepping up and putting in measures to stop this.

    I mean, as much as I despise SCO, the virus author rates lower in my book.

    Once things are cleaned up, we can put out a nice press release that says something to the effect of "As much as we dislike SCO, we wanted to keep SCO focussed on their court case. When (not if) they lose in court, there should be no ambiguity. SCO didn't lose because they were distracted, or reviled. They lost because they were evil^h^h^h^h wrong."

  268. SCO announced a $250,000 reward by JumperCable · · Score: 1

    On Tuesday, SCO announced a $250,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of Mydoom's creator.

    1st one to catch SCO wins!

  269. Re:I wonder... by pjrc · · Score: 1

    Yes, but are 100% certain. But until IBM provides every revision of AIX, Dynix, and every other operting system and piece of software they've ever written over the last 40 years, SCO won't be able to say with specifity exactly why they are 100% certain....

  270. What to do when you get the worm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    But it's not DDOSing now. The attack is set to begin February 1st and end on the 12th.

    1 - Set your local date to February 1st.
    2 - Repeat step 1 every week.

  271. Come on guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This isn't cool! Get that site back online so we have a complete, infinite mirrored version of their whole site!

    wget -nd -m http://www.sco.com --retry-connrefuse --waitretry=5

  272. What about their IP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apparently, SCO's "valuable" Intellectual Property did not include ways to keep a script kiddie from crashing their servers. ...morons

  273. dude, you're on eweek! by IshanCaspian · · Score: 1

    http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1463923,00.as p

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  274. I can send you the fabled "su" for Windows. by Ayanami+Rei · · Score: 1

    They released it a looooong time ago in a Service Pack.

    You can create "bounce" scripts that su to a cripple user (still in the admin group) which runs the application.

    So you'd create a warcraft user in the Administrators group, deny interactive/network logon, then create the bounce script reference by a shortcut on your desktop.

    For full protection, you make the bounce script invisible to everyone except for "interactive users". (The bounce script contains the password for the special admin user, so you don't want people browsing your network share to see it if you can avoid it)

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  275. Re:Please, stop it with the "holier than thou"... by the_mad_poster · · Score: 1

    what's a demonitator?

    A bit of a chuckle for me. If the best you can do is point out my typos, you're in a sorry state. The only thing you'll prove is that I don't spend enough time previewing my posts on a board with a S/N ratio of about 1:500, but I already knew that.

    What did I falsely claim you said? I started my original response to your thread by bitching about the side effects of this, then retaliated against your claim that SCO somehow "deserves" being illegally attacked by the most lowbrow, idiotic, mind-numbingly uncreative, and dull attack since mailbombs. I never claimed YOU said any of that stuff in the first half of my first post, I simply said it.

    If I'm missing something, please do quote me so I can see where I misquoted you or misrepresented what you said. I'm all ears (or eyes.. or whatever).

    SCO is suing IBM. SCO is not suing you. SCO is not suing Linus. SCO is not suing anybody else. Why? Because the crux of SCO's suit is that IBM pissed all over one or more of their contracts regarding UNIX code.

    Now, SCO is most certainly attempting to prod stupid people with near extortionist tactics. However, I emphasize stupid because only a complete gibbering moron would pay up based on imaginary code and vague written threats. In addition, I suppose SCO is the problem of stupid investors who don't bother to research the company at all.

    So, I amend my original statement. SCO still isn't really our problem since if everyone would just ignore them, IBM's lawyers would thump the shit out of them and they'd silently die off. SCO is a problem for IBM and for stupid people.

    If they start suing Linux users, things change. Until then - they're just full of hot air, and you'd do the FOSS community much better to go preach the benefits of FOSS and, more importantly, help people who've decided to take it for a spin. Standing around cheering on some moron who couldn't think of anything better to do then write another spam-enabling POS application that happens to DDoS sco.com only makes people think you're just as technologically incompetent and morally stunted.

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  276. An Open Letter to the Virus' Author: STOP NOW! by borgheron · · Score: 1

    Although there is no evidence that you're a Linux user, by doing this you're giving the Linux community a bad name. Please stop this foolish and childish attack. Open Source and Free Software are a force for good and you're damaging that by doing this.

    Please remember the following.

    1) No one likes or respects you for this.

    2) It's illegal.

    3) It harms GNU/Linux's image as the good guy against SCO's obviously bogus case.

    4) It makes the community look bad even though 99.999999% of us aren't foolish enough to engage in something like this.

    In short you're accomplishing nothing by doing this.

    SCO *will* be dealt with by lawful means. I urge you to stop the attack by whatever means NOW.

    GJC

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  277. Supid question how windows executes programs by probert · · Score: 1

    This is a stupid question. But can someone explain why windows would execute a file with .zip extention? How windows knows if a given file is executable or not? (can't be looking at extentions or it would not execute .zip files :) Thanks

    1. Re:Supid question how windows executes programs by nomel · · Score: 1

      it usually has .zip.pif or .zip.bat or .zip.exe. not sure how this one does it. haven't got it...yet.

    2. Re:Supid question how windows executes programs by probert · · Score: 1

      I had a chance to examine one with a .zip attachment. Inside of the .zip file exists another .pif file.

      Which means that someone has to click it twice to get infected.

      I just thought this virus was somehow innovative and it spoofed the Windows into executing .zip files.

  278. The spammers have done this before. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

    It does seem odd that the worm has a trigger to stop spreading on Feb 12. If SCO were to unleash a self-attacking worm, wouldn't they likely include such a provision?

    There has been a series of spam forwarder viruses published, each with a stop-spreading date and one or more further self-destruct or stop-working dates.

    The idea seems to be that after a while the anti-virus community will get it cleaned out anyhow. So the virus conveniently dies out to take the heat off and clear the field for the next version.

    Without this mechanism the spammer is dependent on the old verion, which is gradually cleared out (reducing his zombie population) AND the remainders watched for his usage, eventually leading his discovery and capture. With it, he presents much like a mutating virus - flu or common cold - constantly changing slightly to re-infect the same population of victims and distract its "immune system" (the antivirus companies and security/law-enforcement community).

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  279. No Good Deed Goes Unpunished... by HopeOS · · Score: 1

    We have weathered the last dozen email viruses; certainly, we can last through this one. My simple mail server is receiving hundreds of these messages an hour, and I'm plenty irritated by the whole thing. Nonetheless, I have not one tear for SCO.

    -Hope

  280. Re:Please, stop it with the "holier than thou"... by part15guy · · Score: 1

    Vigilanteeism, however, is just malice operating under false pretenses.

    Revenge of the nerds!!!

  281. Damn lawyer clients.... by quinkin · · Score: 1
    Yeah I have just been though it all agin with my lawyer clients. Every email virus they get hit by they have to "let me know my servers are infected"...

    Each time I explain that email is insecure and people can forge your email address then point out that it is unlikely that the windows virus has infected my linux mail server...

    Q.

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  282. Who's payroll is Ziff-Davis on? by ShirKahn · · Score: 1

    I opened my email this evening and look what Ziff-Davis has to say about the OpenSource community's reaction to the planned attack of SCO-
    "...Find out who's saying what, and where
    these sophomoric and misguided posts are coming from."
    Followed by:
    "..Ignorant Open-Source Fans Praise MyDoom:
    http://eletters.wnn.ziffdavis.com/zd1/cts ?d=75-117 -1-1-588930-5203-1" They cite only TWO posts that might come close to this description, yet the lead in makes it sound like the whole O-S community is a bunch of net-thuging twits.

    At least they put in a plug for our beloved Slashdot (backhanded as it may be)
    "..Reactions on Slashdot, arguably the largest discussion board for technophiles, displayed a cathartic wave of pleasure, "Finally a worthwhile virus!" exclaims one poster."

    They take a few potshots at folks who hold the theory that this is all a ploy by SCO to discredit the O-S movement.

    So the question remains- is Z/D taking SCO money to say un-nice things about Linux users, or have they snuggled up with Bills check book for the same reason? Might make a nice Slashdot poll?

  283. Re:Please, stop it with the "holier than thou"... by rokzy · · Score: 1

    "If they start suing Linux users, things change..."

    "First they came for the Jews..."

  284. Re:Please, stop it with the "holier than thou"... by the_mad_poster · · Score: 1

    Yea, good comparison. That would be an awesome response if it wasn't for the fact that you're using the quote totally out of context and there's an ENORMOUS difference between a psychotic government kidnapping and offing its citizens and some crazy company digging its own grave. I guess if there were a risk that SCO was coming to your house or IBM's house to kick them in the nuts, then you might have made some sense. However, since SCO is merely attempting to play on stupid people's fears and to play the court system - two things which can easily be remedied legally with a little patience, I can only conclude that your neurons were just firing randomly when you trotted out that sorry excuse of a response. Quick! Explain to me how genocide and not having a business plan are somehow related!

    Here's a hint, wait... stop me if you've heard this one: IBM CAN TAKE CARE OF ITSELF. Oh.. gee... imagine that.. the court system will actually foil SCO's dirty little plans... meaning.. anyone... who... starts... or... cheers on.. such a thugish, dull attack is nothing more than a petty criminal or an idiot.

    So, again, seeing as how IBM is capable of taking care of itself, I'll ask: how is it that SCO deserves to be DDoS'ed? I figure if I ask you often enough, maybe the odds will play out in my favor that you actually answer the question.

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  285. Modded Troll?!? by burnin1965 · · Score: 1

    You have got to be kidding. I admit my lack of knowledge when someone points out my mistake so I ask an honest question to clarify my misunderstanding and I'm modded a Troll?

    Since the question is innocent enough it must be considered a troll because someone doesn't like what the answer will be.

    Whatever,
    burnin

  286. here they are again by Ogman · · Score: 1

    Every time SCO is out of the news for two days something else happens to put them there. Personally, I suspect they manufacture these incidents just to avoid their inevitable irrelevancy.

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    1. Re:here they are again by ShirKahn · · Score: 1

      Carefull what you say- you could end up being labeled "sophmoric" or worse by the the Ziff-Davis Media Jugernaught......

  287. Read this! Moronic linux users?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And he claimes to be a linux user... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/zd/ 20040127/tc_zd/117511

  288. Better luck next time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is really... I don't even know the words to put it in... You've got the idiots that bitch about how the virus is hurting them more than it's helping the "revolution." You've got the other idiots that are praising the virus because it takes down the SCO website (So?) You've still got more idiots that praise the "revolution" but hate SCO but hate the virus even though it takes down the SCO website (again... So?) To summarize... This little Linux revolution.. Hmm.. let me put this in terms some of you might understand... This little Linux revolution is just one line of coding. There's a lot more to life than just sitting around feeling like a freedom fighter, because you're more comfortable using an operating system that is not dominant. Hate to break this to all of you... Shutting down the SCO website isn't very impressive, still less, it does almost nothing. This "revolution" has got to be the most pathetic attempt at feeling better about oneself... that I have ever seen. Better luck next time...