In Rio you probably will earn at most R$4,000 they pay lower salaries than here in Sao Paulo. You may be able to rent a nice condo in Rio, but you'll have to pay attention to the violence. It's getting pretty scary there (Sao Paulo is better, but far worse than pre-Giulianni New York).
Let's make a deal, you come here to Brazil and get a nice apartment in oceanfront. Somewhere nice and safe and take jobs via your US contacts. I help you and we split the money;)
Seriously, if you are able to work at home, anywhere in the world, come to Florianopolis, one of the top five best cities to live in Brazil. The ladies are beautiful, it's an island and the weather is not too hot. Rio is a dream the brazilian government try to sell, but currently it chaotic (the drug-dealers managed to close the main avenue in Rio (Avenida Brasil) for 5 hours in this year!).
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I'm actually thinking it might be a good idea to move offshore myself. I'd earn less, but I might earn more when adjusted to the cost of living in, say, the Philippines or Brazil.
I'm Brazilian and I can tell you that you won't earn more when adjusted. Even if counting the living costs.
Let's do some math using your US$100,000 example. It's something like US$8,334 per month, which would give us R$24,167 per month. No IT worker in Brazil earns that much, the top salaries are around R$5~6k. So lets give you a R$6,000 salary. You decide to buy a 30 gb iPod (US$299) but you'll discover that it'll cost you R$2,000. That's right even with the 1/3 conversion of US$ to R$ it's more than twice the cost. Every other piece of technology you decide to buy will be expensive, unless you buy a "illegal" copy (without paying taxes). Rent will be around R$1,000, car costs between R$600 to R$1,000, broadband internet access R$100. Even CDs will cost relatively more (from R$20 to R$30).
I'm sorry to give you the bad news, but living in a "third world" economy isn't cheap, unless you decide to live in a bad neighbourhood, move using a bus, ignore entertainment (including books) and computers. of course there are a few cheap things, but everything imported is costly.
These costs are from Sao Paulo, the largest city in Brazil. Other cities are cheaper, but the salary is worse.
There's one benefit you ignored. If, in future versions, they want to put additional information (i.e. new tags or attributes) the older software versions will be able to read the new documents, keeping backwards compatibility. This is the most important feature for organizations that work with standardized software, they're able to keep using old verified versions of the applications .
There are two big problems in Brazil: corruption and distance between poor and rich.
While in US the minimum wage is more than US$900 per month, in Brazil it's around US$75 per month. But I, a J2EE developer, earn around US$2000 per month, while a US J2EE developer will earn around US$6000 per month ( average from this survey). In this situation the rate distance in US is about 6.7, where in Brazil is 26.7! This is the lead cause of crimes and poor quality of life in several places in Brazil.
The corruption issue is a bit worse. Most of politicians and judges in Brazil believe they have the right to be very rich, even if they have to steal from the people. Last month a countryside city with less than 50,000 people spent US$1,000,000 (IIRC) in furniture for the representatives, even with the city's hospitals lacking resources.
Even with these problems people here tend to be warm, gentle and hopeful for the future. It's a very strange, and sometimes unpleasant, place to live, but the future seems good (hey I'm still here;)
It has been my subjective experience, as well as my objective oberservation of what amounts to a less than perfect statistical universe, that people don't fully appreciate the positive things in their lives without actually experiencing the corresponding negatives. It seems like good lacks definition without evil providing a frame of reference. How can you know how good you have it if it's not even possible to have it any other way?
So can't a person enjoy consesual sex unless she was raped before? Can't you appreciate freedom unless you where imprisoned? IME people who experience evil not always are able to appreciate good after it, sometimes they're scarred permanently. People don't need to eat crap to realize that *insert your favorite food here* is delicious;)
had no criminals in it there would be no need for a police force.
That's correct. No need for a police force.
Now, when a criminal does arrive from some far off land, no one is prepared for it.
This is a fallacy. While there's no need for a police force in a crimeless society, it doesn't mean that people would have no defense against it. There are several reasons for that:
people will know that there's crime in other countries, so some kind of security or vigilance against foreign criminals would be likely to happen.
a reduced police force could be maintained for emergencies (crowd control, psychosis induce crimes, etc.) so they would be able to handle a few criminals
Ordinary citizens could be able to defend themselves, either using guns or just their wits/defense trainment. There are millions of people around the world skilled in martial arts, knife bearing criminals aren't a tough challenge for them.
Probably some kind of army would be maintained (even if not permanent), because crimeless doesn't imply in without enemies (or terrorists).
Some people may commit crimes (and be labeled criminals) because they don't realize they're breaking some law or they think the law is unfair (civil disobedience anyone?). We still need police in these situations.
People don't need to be threatened to develop defenses against attacks.
we salute you. When I saw the/. headline I was shocked (I'm brazilian but I don't watch TV or read newspapers). It's really sad when people work so hard for something only to die without seeing their dreams fly away. But we will continue and their work will be fulfilled. The USA has a tradition of spaceflight and working on Nasa is a dream of many young geeks. Here in Brazil it's different, because we are starting and it's not so glamurous. But I always had this dream of working in INPE (our Nasa), that was one of my goals after finishing physics graduation. I quit college but I still has this dream, even after this tragedy.
Over in Brazil we have like 170 million inhabitants, a electronic voting system and no real problems with fraud, ambiguous votes or anything like that. Sure we are just a "third-world" nation but I don't see a reason why this shouldn't scale up.
After seeing two different successful cases using distinct technologies I don't see a logical reason to blame one method or other for "human" faults. Humans fraud elections, miscount votes and use software they don't have the source. If you believe in democracy, you should use your voting system (as lame as it is) to elect the people who won't make this thing possible.
I don't think it's that simple. Try to live a week using only one of your eyes. You'll still be able to recognize faces at night, rain, etc. I had to (a serious cornea injury in one eyes and a light one in the other) and have myopia in both eyes. Without 90% of my left eye's vision I could recognize people I never saw before in that week (I was going to vacation in the day before my injury). There's also a friend with myopia only in one eye (10 degrees), who lived normally until diagnosed. Several years without any kind of problems. AFAIK we don't know how information is stored in our brains so, while I believe that images are 3D inside our heads, we can just make guesses on how it really works.
Over in Brazil we have like 170 million inhabitants, a electronic voting system and no real problems with fraud, ambiguous votes or anything like that. Sure we are just a "third-world" nation but I don't see a reason why this shouldn't scale up.
After seeing two different successful cases using distinct technologies I don't see a logical reason to blame one method or other for "human" faults. Humans fraud elections, miscount votes and use software they don't have the source. If you believe in democracy, you should use your voting system (as lame as it is) to elect the people who won't make this thing possible.
Those features we're asked by D's users, but they are simpler and safer than C++ version. Right now C++ has more expressive features, but D is improving.
D supports both function pointers and delegates, and a general sorting function exists both in the Phobos Standard Library (come with dmd compiler)and Deimos Template Library (or DTL, it's LGPL'd)http://www.minddrome.com/d/deimos/deimos-0. 0.1.zip. Phobos version is similar to C quicksort and the version in Phobos is a simple mergesort with no optimizations (later versions of the library will have faster algorithms).
Every language's first compiler must be written in some other language. D's compilers use C, because most D developers like C, but want more safe and expressive features. In D arrays are safer and faster than C arrays via pointers, because the compiler can do some optimizations, knowing it is working on a array, not some bare pointer. But current version is good enough for rewriting the compiler in D.
Best regards,
Daniel Yokomiso.
D isn't proprietary. Currently it's one man's job (Walter Bright http://www.walterbright.com/) doing the dmd compiler (from Digital Mars http://www.digitalmars.com) and designing the language. There's also a port to linux on www.opend.org and some people working on a gcc frontend. It's usable now (somewhat), if you don't push it too much (e.g. templates are still tricky). Version 2 or 3 will probably be standardized, but IMO version 1.x will be stable and usable enough to be a complete language.
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In Rio you probably will earn at most R$4,000 they pay lower salaries than here in Sao Paulo. You may be able to rent a nice condo in Rio, but you'll have to pay attention to the violence. It's getting pretty scary there (Sao Paulo is better, but far worse than pre-Giulianni New York). ;)
Let's make a deal, you come here to Brazil and get a nice apartment in oceanfront. Somewhere nice and safe and take jobs via your US contacts. I help you and we split the money
Seriously, if you are able to work at home, anywhere in the world, come to Florianopolis, one of the top five best cities to live in Brazil. The ladies are beautiful, it's an island and the weather is not too hot. Rio is a dream the brazilian government try to sell, but currently it chaotic (the drug-dealers managed to close the main avenue in Rio (Avenida Brasil) for 5 hours in this year!).
See the news here.
I'm Brazilian and I can tell you that you won't earn more when adjusted. Even if counting the living costs.
Let's do some math using your US$100,000 example. It's something like US$8,334 per month, which would give us R$24,167 per month. No IT worker in Brazil earns that much, the top salaries are around R$5~6k. So lets give you a R$6,000 salary. You decide to buy a 30 gb iPod (US$299) but you'll discover that it'll cost you R$2,000. That's right even with the 1/3 conversion of US$ to R$ it's more than twice the cost. Every other piece of technology you decide to buy will be expensive, unless you buy a "illegal" copy (without paying taxes). Rent will be around R$1,000, car costs between R$600 to R$1,000, broadband internet access R$100. Even CDs will cost relatively more (from R$20 to R$30).
I'm sorry to give you the bad news, but living in a "third world" economy isn't cheap, unless you decide to live in a bad neighbourhood, move using a bus, ignore entertainment (including books) and computers. of course there are a few cheap things, but everything imported is costly.
These costs are from Sao Paulo, the largest city in Brazil. Other cities are cheaper, but the salary is worse.
That is already happening!!!.
There's one benefit you ignored. If, in future versions, they want to put additional information (i.e. new tags or attributes) the older software versions will be able to read the new documents, keeping backwards compatibility. This is the most important feature for organizations that work with standardized software, they're able to keep using old verified versions of the applications .
There are two big problems in Brazil: corruption and distance between poor and rich.
;)
While in US the minimum wage is more than US$900 per month, in Brazil it's around US$75 per month. But I, a J2EE developer, earn around US$2000 per month, while a US J2EE developer will earn around US$6000 per month ( average from this survey). In this situation the rate distance in US is about 6.7, where in Brazil is 26.7! This is the lead cause of crimes and poor quality of life in several places in Brazil.
The corruption issue is a bit worse. Most of politicians and judges in Brazil believe they have the right to be very rich, even if they have to steal from the people. Last month a countryside city with less than 50,000 people spent US$1,000,000 (IIRC) in furniture for the representatives, even with the city's hospitals lacking resources.
Even with these problems people here tend to be warm, gentle and hopeful for the future. It's a very strange, and sometimes unpleasant, place to live, but the future seems good (hey I'm still here
It has been my subjective experience, as well as my objective oberservation of what amounts to a less than perfect statistical universe, that people don't fully appreciate the positive things in their lives without actually experiencing the corresponding negatives. It seems like good lacks definition without evil providing a frame of reference. How can you know how good you have it if it's not even possible to have it any other way? ;)
So can't a person enjoy consesual sex unless she was raped before? Can't you appreciate freedom unless you where imprisoned? IME people who experience evil not always are able to appreciate good after it, sometimes they're scarred permanently. People don't need to eat crap to realize that *insert your favorite food here* is delicious
That's correct. No need for a police force.
Now, when a criminal does arrive from some far off land, no one is prepared for it.
This is a fallacy. While there's no need for a police force in a crimeless society, it doesn't mean that people would have no defense against it. There are several reasons for that:
- people will know that there's crime in other countries, so some kind of security or vigilance against foreign criminals would be likely to happen.
- a reduced police force could be maintained for emergencies (crowd control, psychosis induce crimes, etc.) so they would be able to handle a few criminals
- Ordinary citizens could be able to defend themselves, either using guns or just their wits/defense trainment. There are millions of people around the world skilled in martial arts, knife bearing criminals aren't a tough challenge for them.
- Probably some kind of army would be maintained (even if not permanent), because crimeless doesn't imply in without enemies (or terrorists).
- Some people may commit crimes (and be labeled criminals) because they don't realize they're breaking some law or they think the law is unfair (civil disobedience anyone?). We still need police in these situations.
People don't need to be threatened to develop defenses against attacks.we salute you. /. headline I was shocked (I'm brazilian but I don't watch TV or read newspapers). It's really sad when people work so hard for something only to die without seeing their dreams fly away. But we will continue and their work will be fulfilled.
When I saw the
The USA has a tradition of spaceflight and working on Nasa is a dream of many young geeks. Here in Brazil it's different, because we are starting and it's not so glamurous. But I always had this dream of working in INPE (our Nasa), that was one of my goals after finishing physics graduation. I quit college but I still has this dream, even after this tragedy.
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Koreans ignore him
It's just a game
Over in Brazil we have like 170 million inhabitants, a electronic voting system and no real problems with fraud, ambiguous votes or anything like that. Sure we are just a "third-world" nation but I don't see a reason why this shouldn't scale up.
;)
After seeing two different successful cases using distinct technologies I don't see a logical reason to blame one method or other for "human" faults. Humans fraud elections, miscount votes and use software they don't have the source. If you believe in democracy, you should use your voting system (as lame as it is) to elect the people who won't make this thing possible.
Just my 2 cents (brazilian cents
Here people are voting for Super Cool Overperformers.
If he only answers via MSN?
I don't think it's that simple. Try to live a week using only one of your eyes. You'll still be able to recognize faces at night, rain, etc. I had to (a serious cornea injury in one eyes and a light one in the other) and have myopia in both eyes. Without 90% of my left eye's vision I could recognize people I never saw before in that week (I was going to vacation in the day before my injury).
There's also a friend with myopia only in one eye (10 degrees), who lived normally until diagnosed. Several years without any kind of problems.
AFAIK we don't know how information is stored in our brains so, while I believe that images are 3D inside our heads, we can just make guesses on how it really works.
Do you know that Phobos and Deimos are the sons of Ares (Mars it's the roman name), god of war, don't you?
"I suppose this could be better explained if I could read German."
I can read a little german, and I'll tell you: it won't help with a danish article.
Clearly Tengwar is superior.
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Perhaps you should try Google toolbar 2.0 beta . It blocks popups, and such. I clicked on the link and there were neither popups nor Gator install.
Over in Brazil we have like 170 million inhabitants, a electronic voting system and no real problems with fraud, ambiguous votes or anything like that. Sure we are just a "third-world" nation but I don't see a reason why this shouldn't scale up.
;)
After seeing two different successful cases using distinct technologies I don't see a logical reason to blame one method or other for "human" faults. Humans fraud elections, miscount votes and use software they don't have the source. If you believe in democracy, you should use your voting system (as lame as it is) to elect the people who won't make this thing possible.
Just my 2 cents (brazilian cents
Those features we're asked by D's users, but they are simpler and safer than C++ version. Right now C++ has more expressive features, but D is improving.
Best regards,
Daniel Yokomiso.
D supports both function pointers and delegates, and a general sorting function exists both in the Phobos Standard Library (come with dmd compiler)and Deimos Template Library (or DTL, it's LGPL'd)http://www.minddrome.com/d/deimos/deimos-0. 0.1.zip. Phobos version is similar to C quicksort and the version in Phobos is a simple mergesort with no optimizations (later versions of the library will have faster algorithms).
Best regards,
Daniel Yokomiso.
Every language's first compiler must be written in some other language. D's compilers use C, because most D developers like C, but want more safe and expressive features. In D arrays are safer and faster than C arrays via pointers, because the compiler can do some optimizations, knowing it is working on a array, not some bare pointer. But current version is good enough for rewriting the compiler in D. Best regards, Daniel Yokomiso.
D isn't proprietary. Currently it's one man's job (Walter Bright http://www.walterbright.com/) doing the dmd compiler (from Digital Mars http://www.digitalmars.com) and designing the language. There's also a port to linux on www.opend.org and some people working on a gcc frontend. It's usable now (somewhat), if you don't push it too much (e.g. templates are still tricky). Version 2 or 3 will probably be standardized, but IMO version 1.x will be stable and usable enough to be a complete language.
Best regards,
Daniel Yokomiso.