From what I have seen of the posts, I can't believe no one has mentioned PBS. There are all kind of educational things on their site for all age groups. As the child grows and becomes more educated, they can still visit the site and leran more. My kids (5 and 7 years old) love the Zoom and cyberchase pages.
You could save a couple of kilos on the launch, and their energy requirements...
You still wouldn't save that many kilos. That's 500 days these ladies would be in sapce. The amount of kilos saved, would then be replcaed with...(shudder)...feminine hygene products.
Wait, I have it all figured out. They are going to make a Reality based TV show out of it. This is how Lance Bass from N'Sync is going to pay for the trip, except the whole group is going to go. Every 9 to 13 year old girl will be glued to the TV for 500 days. Imagine the ratings.
Even if the mission end in catastrophic failure, at least there will be one less boy band on this planet.
What I did say, is that Windows security is arguably (we do it here and elsewhere all the time) the least secure major OS available, and why it seems fine to people....
Well if you are going to argue that M$ is the most un-secure OS on the market, it would be nice if you were to give some proof. I know that for the minimally installed RedHat server that I am using to run qmail has had 78 security updates, 4 enhancemnt fixes, and 16 bug fixes in the last year. My W2K machines have had 12 patches and 3 SP's unfortunately I do not know how many of those fixes were for security reasons(Thank you Bill Gates for making it slightly difficult to find out. Automatic Updates are a double edged sword...), but if I was to bet money I would bet that more than half of the fixes were not security related.
The main reason WinBlow$ is less secure is due to the fact that the majority of programs and services that run on the PC must run with root access. This was a choice that Redmond made, just like the orginal Unix developers made when creating the first release of Unix. The orginal Unix developers decided security was more important than useability. Redmond on the other hand decided useability was more important than security. Apparently M$ was more intune with what the masses wanted. If they were not, then we all woild be running Unix.
As for all the people who yell and jump around that their XP boxes are stable and they never have to worry about anything, I say that's garbage. I've seen XP boxes everywhere on this campus (dorms, classrooms, administrative), and the OS is remarkably good at breaking.
In my many travels, usually what I see is that it doesn't matter the OS, usually the probelm lies between the keyboard and chair.
Your analogy doesn't quite support your argument. If a flaw is unknown, it is not being exploited. A security vulnerability is not a problem until someone discovers it. How can you have a fix for an undiscovered problem.
If I bought a TV from Sony which developed a fault due to a design flaw, I'd expect the store I bought it from to replace it with a new version that doesn't have the same flaw
If the fault uncovered a design flaw, then yes you would be correct in requesting some kind of compensation, replacement, or fix. (I was actually part of a class action suit for RCA TV's for this exact reason. We received a whole whopping $30 in RCA coupons.) If your Sony TV and millions of others has a design flaw, and no one ever discovers it and the sets all seem to work to the end user, then do you really expect the store to replace it, even though nobody knows of the problem?
As someone in another thread mentioned, red hat update is for a few hundred at least applications vs microsoft update which is for, what windows, IE and media player
Isn't windows media player and IE applications. I know M$ has them so tightly integrated into the OS that it is next to imposible to remove them, but they are still applications. Isn't the latest fix that everyone is screaming about a non-OS related problem. I know the JVM is installed by default and is required by the Sun lawsuit, but it's not a kernel problem. So once again, a fix is a fix, and it seems to me anyways that both OS'es seem to have lots of fixes and bugs.
...How many have been for the acutal operating system? Like say the kernel or glibc?...
I could say the same thing about Windows. How many were for the actual NT kernel? Does it really matter? a fix is a fix. The only point I am trying to get across, is I can't stand the small faction of Linux Zealots out their that seem to bash any problems that pops up with Windows. Get over yourselves. All operating systems have problems. If you want to b*tch about Micro$hafts license policies, outrageous EULAS, and the fact that they are willing to rape there customers to make an extra dime, then I will be right there with you, but evertime you little cry babies start waving your finger at Micr$oft and start yelling look see Linux is better you actually hurt the cause. Anybody with 3 brain cells is going to realize that all OSes have problems and require fixes and updates. Make legitmate arguments on why to switch, and maybe then people might actually do get rid of WinBlow$ and use a more license friendly operating system.
...Do you really not mind running machines that are completely insecure...
What a stupid statement too make. Any person that is not a newbiew or stupid luser knows that the only secure computer is a computer that is off and unplugged. It doesn't matter what the OS is. It could be Unix, Linux, MS Windows, Amiga, Mac OS, etc. As long as people are writing the code, there will always be bugs, and security holes problems.
All of the Microsoft bashing that happens on this site is almost enought to make me go elswhere. Don't get me wrong, I am a big Open Source proponent, and I definetilly hate the business practices of Microsoft. Unfortunately you small minded people can't get past the my OS is better than yours menatllity.
You want to b*tch about the way microsft licenses its product fine, I'll be right there with you. You want to complain about the way they dominate the market, fine. You would be correct in my opnion. But let me tell you, any good black hat that wants to hack into a system, doesn't care if its Microsoft Windows or not. First thing they want to know is, is the computer on.
...security freedom...
Not that I love M$, but it seems that your bashing Micro$haft unjustly. Linux seems to be pumping out even more fixes and patches than old Billy boy's crappy product.
It seems like for the last month or so I have received at least 2 RedHat erratas a day, and the majority of them are for security reasons.
For my RedHat email server, there have been 98 updates put out by RedHat and the Linux community. Of those 98, 16 were bug fixes, 4 were enhancements, and 78 were for security concerns. On my W2K workstation, I have installed 12 hotfixes and 3 service packs
Linux enthusiasts like you that bash Microsoft without knowing what you are saying make the entire Linux community look bad. Instead of bashing them, we should at least praise them for responding quickly (this time), once the bug was found.
The way I would handle this, is to do a little bit of research to make valid arguments why it is not a good reason. Make sure you make your arguments so as to reflect all of your technical concerns, but the big argument to make will be financial. If you start spewing forth too much technical jargon, you will lose the intrest of your customer and then lose the argument. People understand money. If you make it a financial argument, people will listen. Trying to justify the cost of Citrix for remote admin should be an easy argument to defeat. How long would it take to recoup the expense of purchasing and installing Citrix for the use of remote administration, especially if it is for one programmer. Just make sure that when you argue your points, everyone is aware that you are using your best professional judgement to assist the company technically and finacially.
I know, If I take a peice of code with legitmate uses (lets say MS Windows) and then use it to committ a crime, maybe then thet will sue Micro$oft and place Bill Gates in jail for creating it.
Privacy? Anonymity? If people truly think they are private or anonymous on the internet, then they are insane. Every time you access the web, your ISP knows, every site you access, the site know. Yeah I know, only your IP is logged, but anyone can find out who owns that IP address with a very nominal amount of work. If you know who owns it, you can find out where that individual is. If you are surfing at work, hell they can have filters and monitors setup to log every thing you do. Privacy and anonymity is an illusion. The only thing this is going to do is make it even easier to trackdown where you are.
Yeah I know what you mean, the scary thing is, I've noticed a change in there voices. My lead engineer is starting to sound like Woody Allan, my structured cable guy is starting to sound like Sly Stallone, and for some reason I noticed my voice is starting to sound like Gene Hackman. I just wish my wife would sound more like Sharon Stone:)
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It's kind of like appointing Tommy Chong as the new Drug Czar.
Interviewer: Mr. Chong, what can you bring to this position?
Tomy Chong: Like.....Man....I know alot about....Hey, who's hungry?
Actually you can do this. Go to:
Microsoft's Software Update Services page.
There is a white paper on how to deploy an Update server. Kind of funny though, they already have a SP1 for the software.
From the article:
...'growing' microscopic, whisker-like carbon nanotubes...
:)
My wife has been doing this in our bed room for years
Try this:
freevix.org
Yeah, I understand the fumble factor, but on the plus side, It would be pretty darn hard to loose in your sofa. :)
AWWWWWW! I can't find it on ThinkGeek
/. would even post something about a gadget that is not 4 sale on ThinkGeek
;P
It can't be that cool if its not 4 sale at ThinkGeek
ThinkGeek is the only place that sells cool gadgets.
I'm suprised
Hey CmdTaco, did I plug ThinkGeek.com to make up for it?
From what I have seen of the posts, I can't believe no one has mentioned PBS. There are all kind of educational things on their site for all age groups. As the child grows and becomes more educated, they can still visit the site and leran more. My kids (5 and 7 years old) love the Zoom and cyberchase pages.
You could save a couple of kilos on the launch, and their energy requirements ...
...(shudder)...feminine hygene products.
You still wouldn't save that many kilos. That's 500 days these ladies would be in sapce. The amount of kilos saved, would then be replcaed with
ICK!!
Wait, I have it all figured out. They are going to make a Reality based TV show out of it. This is how Lance Bass from N'Sync is going to pay for the trip, except the whole group is going to go. Every 9 to 13 year old girl will be glued to the TV for 500 days. Imagine the ratings.
Even if the mission end in catastrophic failure, at least there will be one less boy band on this planet.
What I did say, is that Windows security is arguably (we do it here and elsewhere all the time) the least secure major OS available, and why it seems fine to people....
Well if you are going to argue that M$ is the most un-secure OS on the market, it would be nice if you were to give some proof. I know that for the minimally installed RedHat server that I am using to run qmail has had 78 security updates, 4 enhancemnt fixes, and 16 bug fixes in the last year. My W2K machines have had 12 patches and 3 SP's unfortunately I do not know how many of those fixes were for security reasons(Thank you Bill Gates for making it slightly difficult to find out. Automatic Updates are a double edged sword...), but if I was to bet money I would bet that more than half of the fixes were not security related.
The main reason WinBlow$ is less secure is due to the fact that the majority of programs and services that run on the PC must run with root access. This was a choice that Redmond made, just like the orginal Unix developers made when creating the first release of Unix. The orginal Unix developers decided security was more important than useability. Redmond on the other hand decided useability was more important than security. Apparently M$ was more intune with what the masses wanted. If they were not, then we all woild be running Unix.
As for all the people who yell and jump around that their XP boxes are stable and they never have to worry about anything, I say that's garbage. I've seen XP boxes everywhere on this campus (dorms, classrooms, administrative), and the OS is remarkably good at breaking.
In my many travels, usually what I see is that it doesn't matter the OS, usually the probelm lies between the keyboard and chair.
Your analogy doesn't quite support your argument. If a flaw is unknown, it is not being exploited. A security vulnerability is not a problem until someone discovers it. How can you have a fix for an undiscovered problem.
If I bought a TV from Sony which developed a fault due to a design flaw, I'd expect the store I bought it from to replace it with a new version that doesn't have the same flaw
If the fault uncovered a design flaw, then yes you would be correct in requesting some kind of compensation, replacement, or fix. (I was actually part of a class action suit for RCA TV's for this exact reason. We received a whole whopping $30 in RCA coupons.) If your Sony TV and millions of others has a design flaw, and no one ever discovers it and the sets all seem to work to the end user, then do you really expect the store to replace it, even though nobody knows of the problem?
As someone in another thread mentioned, red hat update is for a few hundred at least applications vs microsoft update which is for, what windows, IE and media player
Isn't windows media player and IE applications. I know M$ has them so tightly integrated into the OS that it is next to imposible to remove them, but they are still applications. Isn't the latest fix that everyone is screaming about a non-OS related problem. I know the JVM is installed by default and is required by the Sun lawsuit, but it's not a kernel problem. So once again, a fix is a fix, and it seems to me anyways that both OS'es seem to have lots of fixes and bugs.
...How many have been for the acutal operating system? Like say the kernel or glibc?...
I could say the same thing about Windows. How many were for the actual NT kernel? Does it really matter? a fix is a fix. The only point I am trying to get across, is I can't stand the small faction of Linux Zealots out their that seem to bash any problems that pops up with Windows. Get over yourselves. All operating systems have problems. If you want to b*tch about Micro$hafts license policies, outrageous EULAS, and the fact that they are willing to rape there customers to make an extra dime, then I will be right there with you, but evertime you little cry babies start waving your finger at Micr$oft and start yelling look see Linux is better you actually hurt the cause. Anybody with 3 brain cells is going to realize that all OSes have problems and require fixes and updates. Make legitmate arguments on why to switch, and maybe then people might actually do get rid of WinBlow$ and use a more license friendly operating system.
...I wonder how many more flaws there are that haven't been discovered yet?...
The same could be said about Linux. How may bugs are in the product that have not been found.
...Do you really not mind running machines that are completely insecure...
What a stupid statement too make. Any person that is not a newbiew or stupid luser knows that the only secure computer is a computer that is off and unplugged. It doesn't matter what the OS is. It could be Unix, Linux, MS Windows, Amiga, Mac OS, etc. As long as people are writing the code, there will always be bugs, and security holes problems.
All of the Microsoft bashing that happens on this site is almost enought to make me go elswhere. Don't get me wrong, I am a big Open Source proponent, and I definetilly hate the business practices of Microsoft. Unfortunately you small minded people can't get past the my OS is better than yours menatllity.
You want to b*tch about the way microsft licenses its product fine, I'll be right there with you. You want to complain about the way they dominate the market, fine. You would be correct in my opnion. But let me tell you, any good black hat that wants to hack into a system, doesn't care if its Microsoft Windows or not. First thing they want to know is, is the computer on.
Preach it Brother !!!!
...security freedom...
Not that I love M$, but it seems that your bashing Micro$haft unjustly. Linux seems to be pumping out even more fixes and patches than old Billy boy's crappy product.
It seems like for the last month or so I have received at least 2 RedHat erratas a day, and the majority of them are for security reasons.
For my RedHat email server, there have been 98 updates put out by RedHat and the Linux community. Of those 98, 16 were bug fixes, 4 were enhancements, and 78 were for security concerns. On my W2K workstation, I have installed 12 hotfixes and 3 service packs
Linux enthusiasts like you that bash Microsoft without knowing what you are saying make the entire Linux community look bad. Instead of bashing them, we should at least praise them for responding quickly (this time), once the bug was found.
People who throw stones....
I like your sig.... nipple pink is a really color too :P
The way I would handle this, is to do a little bit of research to make valid arguments why it is not a good reason. Make sure you make your arguments so as to reflect all of your technical concerns, but the big argument to make will be financial. If you start spewing forth too much technical jargon, you will lose the intrest of your customer and then lose the argument. People understand money. If you make it a financial argument, people will listen. Trying to justify the cost of Citrix for remote admin should be an easy argument to defeat. How long would it take to recoup the expense of purchasing and installing Citrix for the use of remote administration, especially if it is for one programmer. Just make sure that when you argue your points, everyone is aware that you are using your best professional judgement to assist the company technically and finacially.
No Windows in not Neurotic, it's psychotic :P
I know, If I take a peice of code with legitmate uses (lets say MS Windows) and then use it to committ a crime, maybe then thet will sue Micro$oft and place Bill Gates in jail for creating it.
Privacy? Anonymity? If people truly think they are private or anonymous on the internet, then they are insane. Every time you access the web, your ISP knows, every site you access, the site know. Yeah I know, only your IP is logged, but anyone can find out who owns that IP address with a very nominal amount of work. If you know who owns it, you can find out where that individual is. If you are surfing at work, hell they can have filters and monitors setup to log every thing you do. Privacy and anonymity is an illusion. The only thing this is going to do is make it even easier to trackdown where you are.
They use the VW Bug because that is a cute car.
Cute = Safe
If they were to use the term SUV people think BIG
BIG = Aw crap this is going to hurt!!!
Kinda sounds like Command and Conquere....
Yeah I know what you mean, the scary thing is, I've noticed a change in there voices. My lead engineer is starting to sound like Woody Allan, my structured cable guy is starting to sound like Sly Stallone, and for some reason I noticed my voice is starting to sound like Gene Hackman. I just wish my wife would sound more like Sharon Stone :)
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