No, just shared calendars would work for me. Right now I have a RedHat server running UW IMAP, LDAP, qpopper, qmail, and squirrel mail. It works great, except all of my lusers want to share Outlook calendars. I've tried to get them to use the calendar features in squirrel mail, but they revolted and screamed like little children "Why can't I do this in Outlook. Other companies do it, why can't we." I even went as far as adding an IE shortcut in the outlook bar, so the squirrel mail pages would open up inside of Outlook, but they still screaned like little infants for their 3 am feeding. I wish I was anaccomplished programmer so I could contribute to a project, but unfortunately I am a lowly little SA that makes all of the shiny boxes talk to each other. I would gladly contribute documentation, money, or even be a beta tester. Hell I would give up my left nut if thats what it would take to be able to just share calendars for a reasonable price. I've looked into some of the replacement products, and for the price I might as well buy Exchange. Now that I'm done ranting, please somebody out there, please give me a way to just share multiple calendars. If someone could do that then I will worship you like a God!
When was the last time you installed a Distro? As each distro evolves, the supported HW has increased. In my experiences, you would have a hard time finding WinBlows HW that was not supported by a major Linix distro.
...(old dos based product that I hope dies real soon.)...
What does the NOS have to do with the type or age of the application in a ditributed network? If it is DOS based, I'm pretty sure Netware is not really running it, since Netware does not understand DOS commands or instructions. Netware 4.x can only execute NLM's.
You are right though, don'y fix what isn't broken.
...Sure, NetWare was/is available, but it requires Windows to be utilized completely...
It's been a while since I have touched or even thought about Netware, but digging back into the cob webbed areas of my brain, I seem to recall that Novell had put out a Linux client for NDS. If my recollection is correct, I believe you were even able to create Linux objects in your NDS tree. I don't think you were able to manage your tree with a linux client (I could be wrong, like I said it's been awhile), but with Netware 5, you were able to use ConsoleOne. I know, it did(and maybe still does) suck compared to the WinBlows admin utilities, but if you wanted to migrate away from Micro$oft products you were able to, with a little bit of effrot.
Damn, you stole my idea!!!!!! But I will show you, I'll get a patent for it and sue you....Wait a minute, new thought, patent the idea of selling stickers for the HOV line on ebay and then sue the State! Thanks BUUUUUWWWAAAHHHAAAA!
...so that their spouce doesn't lash them for all the cables running everywhere...
That is the reason why I don't have a rackmount system.
Wife: (dressed in red and black leather with 12" heels) Clean up this electronic mess CRACK! Me: (in a submisive, but slightly excited tone of voice) Yes mistress, thank you mistress, may I have another?
Sure this story is/. worthy. What an abuse of genitic engineering!!! I always supported the genetic engineering cause, and people would scream, "ARE YOU NUTS, YOU CAN't TRUST PEOPLE TO NOT ABUSE SUCH POWERS!". Now it seems they were right!!! What's next, nictonie free tobacco!! Where will it end!!!!
I experienced the same thing when I gave up the JOE and DEW. What helped get rid of the headaches was Excedrin extra strength. Now I am consuming 4 bottles of Excedrin extra strength a day;)
...First off, that $12,000 you spent equals approximately $60 for Microsoft....
It doesn't matter how much of the money goes to Microsoft. If I don't have to spend $12,000 in Microsoft's software, then I have saved the tax payer $12,000. As for buying a $50 box of SuSE, you are correct that this would save initially in software purchases, but unfortunately you did not RTFP. If you did, you would have noticed that I mentioned I would have to then spend the savings in training and lost wages for the disruption. Unfortunately lusers are like lemmings, and changing their habits and comfort zone would cost much more in lost time and wages.
..Things that are good for MS tend to wind up screwing everyone else...
How can you say that. I work for a small town government. I LUV linux. all of the computers that I use are run it. Unfortunately the majority of the world run's Micr$haft products. As a government entity, we must communicate with the majority that has placed us in charge of running their town. This means we need to be using their products to effectively communicate(Not accounting for the occasional GPF or BSoD;) ).
Who cares if M$ get's a little PR out of it. Imagine the good it is still doing. Right now I just got dingned for $100/PC for W2K and $300/PC for OfficeXP * 30 PCs. If Billy wants to donate the OS and Office Suite, then I could have saved the tax payer's $12,000.00!!!! Now imagine if M$ was to do this for every small local town, and State governments. Imagine the savings that could be passed along to the tax payer.
I know what you are thinking, Well if you used OSS now you could pass those savings on now. Wrong!! Most employees are comfortable with using a particular product. By switching you generate alot of loss productivity due to people having to learn and get comfortable with a new product. (Not to mention the lost time from people griping about the switch. Trust me, I have just gone throught this by standardizing our Office productivity suite.) Now my savings is going to be spent on training to make everyone comfortable with using the new/different product.
The largest road block to getting OSS widely accepted and used is not Microsoft, but the potential end users. It is human nature to resist change. We are creatures of habit, and change means altering our habits. (I bet 75% or more of all/. readers check this site at set times during the day. I know I do.)
If I was (place your entity here) for a day, I would make the whole world run OSS software, but unfortunately I'm not, so if M$ get's a few PR miles out of it, and I can save the tax payers money, then I still don't see the harm.
...you can't behave the way Redmond has for the past couple decades and expect anyone to trust you. Which is why most people don't trust them at all...
This has nothing to do with trust. I don;t trust Micro$haft any more than you do. This comes down to $$$$. If Bill Gates himself was to come in to my office and say please purchase our product at full price because we are an honest company, I would laugh in his face and have security show him to the door. If Bill Gates was to walk in my office and say please use our product for free, I would then weigh all of my options, and determine wether it is financially responsible to use the products (which if you have read above, I would feel that it is).
If you want to flame me for supporting Microsoft's initiative, please feel free. This just shows who has removed their Rose colored glass, and who has not.
To hell with floppy drives, I'm going to MOD a Iomega Zip drive. I will be the only one with a "Click of Death"! I will rule an conquer you all BUUWWAAAHHAAA!!
Damn,
I better remove the "Guiness World Record Holder for succesfull masturbation attempts in 1 day, out of the Accomplishments section of my resume. Even though, it still would rank higher than the MCSE I have earned
Does anyone know where to get the transcripts of the rest of the meetting. If this was a public meetting, then there should be transcripts of the entire meetting, not just the "...lightly edited..." version posted on newsforge. If people are to be properly informed to make good decisions, then we should have all of the facts (Not just what newsforge puts up). I would like to know what questions were asked at the end of his "testimony", and how they were answered. Plus what the hell does lightly edited mean. What was left out, or even better what was added to the "transcripts". IMHO, the topic and susbsequent newsforge article seems kind of ironic.
Is it really asking too much to insist that we not be bombarded with advertising everywhere we look, everywhere we listen?
Well You could become a hermit and live in a log cabin in the woods. Unfortunately without the technology around to bombard you with loud annoying commercials or intrusive pop-ups, how would you know where to get the best supplies for making pipe bombs, or the best type writer to use to type up your Manifesto. Not to mention the best place to get a cool hooded sweat shirt and sun glasses for you Police sketch artist portrait.
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Guys, does it have to be that Outlook-compatible?
No, just shared calendars would work for me. Right now I have a RedHat server running UW IMAP, LDAP, qpopper, qmail, and squirrel mail. It works great, except all of my lusers want to share Outlook calendars. I've tried to get them to use the calendar features in squirrel mail, but they revolted and screamed like little children "Why can't I do this in Outlook. Other companies do it, why can't we." I even went as far as adding an IE shortcut in the outlook bar, so the squirrel mail pages would open up inside of Outlook, but they still screaned like little infants for their 3 am feeding. I wish I was anaccomplished programmer so I could contribute to a project, but unfortunately I am a lowly little SA that makes all of the shiny boxes talk to each other. I would gladly contribute documentation, money, or even be a beta tester. Hell I would give up my left nut if thats what it would take to be able to just share calendars for a reasonable price. I've looked into some of the replacement products, and for the price I might as well buy Exchange. Now that I'm done ranting, please somebody out there, please give me a way to just share multiple calendars. If someone could do that then I will worship you like a God!
Here's a good idea. How about if the Fed takes your supplied email address and creates a "Do not SPAM list."
When was the last time you installed a Distro? As each distro evolves, the supported HW has increased. In my experiences, you would have a hard time finding WinBlows HW that was not supported by a major Linix distro.
...(old dos based product that I hope dies real soon.)...
What does the NOS have to do with the type or age of the application in a ditributed network? If it is DOS based, I'm pretty sure Netware is not really running it, since Netware does not understand DOS commands or instructions. Netware 4.x can only execute NLM's.
You are right though, don'y fix what isn't broken.
...Sure, NetWare was/is available, but it requires Windows to be utilized completely...
It's been a while since I have touched or even thought about Netware, but digging back into the cob webbed areas of my brain, I seem to recall that Novell had put out a Linux client for NDS. If my recollection is correct, I believe you were even able to create Linux objects in your NDS tree. I don't think you were able to manage your tree with a linux client (I could be wrong, like I said it's been awhile), but with Netware 5, you were able to use ConsoleOne. I know, it did(and maybe still does) suck compared to the WinBlows admin utilities, but if you wanted to migrate away from Micro$oft products you were able to, with a little bit of effrot.
Damn, you stole my idea!!!!!! But I will show you, I'll get a patent for it and sue you....Wait a minute, new thought, patent the idea of selling stickers for the HOV line on ebay and then sue the State! Thanks BUUUUUWWWAAAHHHAAAA!
Based upon your sig and the topic, I bet your a
;)
taxi cab driver.
...so that their spouce doesn't lash them for all the cables running everywhere...
That is the reason why I don't have a rackmount system.
Wife: (dressed in red and black leather with 12" heels) Clean up this electronic mess CRACK!
Me: (in a submisive, but slightly excited tone of voice) Yes mistress, thank you mistress, may I have another?
Sure this story is /. worthy. What an abuse of genitic engineering!!! I always supported the genetic engineering cause, and people would scream, "ARE YOU NUTS, YOU CAN't TRUST PEOPLE TO NOT ABUSE SUCH POWERS!". Now it seems they were right!!! What's next, nictonie free tobacco!! Where will it end!!!!
That was the point of the post ;)
I experienced the same thing when I gave up the JOE and DEW. What helped get rid of the headaches was Excedrin extra strength. Now I am consuming 4 bottles of Excedrin extra strength a day ;)
...First off, that $12,000 you spent equals approximately $60 for Microsoft....
It doesn't matter how much of the money goes to Microsoft. If I don't have to spend $12,000 in Microsoft's software, then I have saved the tax payer $12,000. As for buying a $50 box of SuSE, you are correct that this would save initially in software purchases, but unfortunately you did not RTFP. If you did, you would have noticed that I mentioned I would have to then spend the savings in training and lost wages for the disruption. Unfortunately lusers are like lemmings, and changing their habits and comfort zone would cost much more in lost time and wages.
..Things that are good for MS tend to wind up screwing everyone else...
;) ).
/. readers check this site at set times during the day. I know I do.)
...you can't behave the way Redmond has for the past couple decades and expect anyone to trust you. Which is why most people don't trust them at all...
How can you say that. I work for a small town government. I LUV linux. all of the computers that I use are run it. Unfortunately the majority of the world run's Micr$haft products. As a government entity, we must communicate with the majority that has placed us in charge of running their town. This means we need to be using their products to effectively communicate(Not accounting for the occasional GPF or BSoD
Who cares if M$ get's a little PR out of it. Imagine the good it is still doing. Right now I just got dingned for $100/PC for W2K and $300/PC for OfficeXP * 30 PCs. If Billy wants to donate the OS and Office Suite, then I could have saved the tax payer's $12,000.00!!!! Now imagine if M$ was to do this for every small local town, and State governments. Imagine the savings that could be passed along to the tax payer.
I know what you are thinking, Well if you used OSS now you could pass those savings on now. Wrong!! Most employees are comfortable with using a particular product. By switching you generate alot of loss productivity due to people having to learn and get comfortable with a new product. (Not to mention the lost time from people griping about the switch. Trust me, I have just gone throught this by standardizing our Office productivity suite.) Now my savings is going to be spent on training to make everyone comfortable with using the new/different product.
The largest road block to getting OSS widely accepted and used is not Microsoft, but the potential end users. It is human nature to resist change. We are creatures of habit, and change means altering our habits. (I bet 75% or more of all
If I was (place your entity here) for a day, I would make the whole world run OSS software, but unfortunately I'm not, so if M$ get's a few PR miles out of it, and I can save the tax payers money, then I still don't see the harm.
This has nothing to do with trust. I don;t trust Micro$haft any more than you do. This comes down to $$$$. If Bill Gates himself was to come in to my office and say please purchase our product at full price because we are an honest company, I would laugh in his face and have security show him to the door. If Bill Gates was to walk in my office and say please use our product for free, I would then weigh all of my options, and determine wether it is financially responsible to use the products (which if you have read above, I would feel that it is).
If you want to flame me for supporting Microsoft's initiative, please feel free. This just shows who has removed their Rose colored glass, and who has not.
I wonder if the experiments will coincide with the release of Half-Life 2. Hmmmmm.....Coincidence, I think not.
How much for a 1 year lease ?
Only if you wear it inside out :)
Imagine if they could incorporate this technology into a G-String! You would have a modern, state-of-the-art, 21st century, chastity belt :)
Is ...thingy... a technical term?
...thingy...
...thingy... shop, or ...thingy... catalog I can buy the equipment?
...tower thingy... cost?
...modem thingy... cheap?
Where can I buy a
Is there a
How much does a
Is a
To hell with floppy drives, I'm going to MOD a Iomega Zip drive. I will be the only one with a "Click of Death"! I will rule an conquer you all BUUWWAAAHHAAA!!
boat anchors maybe?
:)
That make good door stops too
Damn, I better remove the "Guiness World Record Holder for succesfull masturbation attempts in 1 day, out of the Accomplishments section of my resume. Even though, it still would rank higher than the MCSE I have earned
Does anyone know where to get the transcripts of the rest of the meetting. If this was a public meetting, then there should be transcripts of the entire meetting, not just the "...lightly edited..." version posted on newsforge. If people are to be properly informed to make good decisions, then we should have all of the facts (Not just what newsforge puts up). I would like to know what questions were asked at the end of his "testimony", and how they were answered. Plus what the hell does lightly edited mean. What was left out, or even better what was added to the "transcripts". IMHO, the topic and susbsequent newsforge article seems kind of ironic.
I've seen this sort of tactic in pop-ads for at least a year now if not a lot longer.
I've seen it around a lot longer than that, but I've been surfing pr0n a lot longer than a year
Is it really asking too much to insist that we not be bombarded with advertising everywhere we look, everywhere we listen?
Well You could become a hermit and live in a log cabin in the woods. Unfortunately without the technology around to bombard you with loud annoying commercials or intrusive pop-ups, how would you know where to get the best supplies for making pipe bombs, or the best type writer to use to type up your Manifesto. Not to mention the best place to get a cool hooded sweat shirt and sun glasses for you Police sketch artist portrait.
doesn't get *EVERY TINY LITTLE DETAIL*
That's why I don't read The Register. It's kind of like saying Entertainment Tonight is the News