No, that's what corporate officers are supposed to do.
Says who? So far I've counted you and grand-parent, if you keep on like this you can start a petetion!
It could be that the shareholders really just want a short term profit, and if so, the company isn't likely to last too long.
So basically, you don't see anything wrong with a company causing massive long-term damage as long as it's what the shareholders want? It's the rest of the world that has to live with the consequenses..
IIRC, there have been cases of shareholders sueing companies for not returning enough on their investment. A company taking the "ethical" route rather than the "profitable" route can be liable not just to its shareholders selling up/voting out the board, but also for legal action.
That sounds absolutly ridicilous. If a controlling majority is for a non-profit route (else they'd just switch out the leadership) why in heaven should the courts interfere?
Corporate officers try to make profits for their companies because that's what corporate officers are supposed to do.
Correction; you think that's what corporate officers are supposed to do.
Some of us actually hold the radical and crazy opinion that a company should make decisions based jointly on their own need and the needs of society. If a new chemical was discovered to be extremely polluting, yet slightly cheaper than the alternative and not yet covered by emmision controls, would you be comfortable with companies adopting it widely?
That would be great, except that in non-socialist countries there's no good way to retire without being a shareholder at some point or another.
First of all, there is a difference between owning stock and being an active shareholder. I'd say the mindset prevailent among the latter of these to be a major problem. Secondly, why is it difficult to retire without being a shareholder? It ain't difficult over here atleast.
meanwhile, these students have no social contract, no accountability. what is their intent? what is their motivation to do good by me? all i have to trust is their word, and i don't know them from adam. therefore, all that they have done for the average joe goes unheeded, unrecognized. the students helped the average joe, but the average joe sees them as criminals.
The difference for the students is the one between numbers and people. For the school board (or however you're organized over there), there is a case of '500 SSN's got leaked, oh well.. the bad publicity will cost us less than hiring competent people'. For the students it's, 'holy shit, they're practically giving away our SSN's, I don't want my bank-account suddenly emptied'
The victims have an inherit motivation in not becoming fucked over. The overseer's main motivation is not being yelled at.
I have mod-points, but I'm at a loss on how to mod both you and the appangly bad replies you've gotten.
You have to remember that a widespread viewership is not the goal of the RIAA, MPAA, and Microsoft. Nor do they care about increased profits.[...]
What? Seriously, what? Debunking something like this is hard, because I have friggin idea what you're basing this on. Are you seriously thinking two organisations made up of lots of large corporations have managed to create consensus to start an evil-brainwashing campaign? What planet are you living on?
Sure, some of the stuff they've pulled of is downright scaring, and needs to stop (late reports on propaganda aimed at children f.x.), but managing to conclude from this that their primary purpose is to destroy as free-thinking indiviuals is just plain lunacy! At worst, it's their secondary objective.
These people want to be in control over everybody. This is why they increasingly want to create laws limiting the rights of people to information.
Specifically, RIAA and MPAA want to restrict your freedom in concerns to movies and music. That's not very surprising either. Either way, for your sake, I do hope you have other cultural influences , because even if they succeeded, I'm not sure I'd personally notice much difference.
That, not profits, is the goal of the RIAA, MPAA, and Microsoft. Otherwise, they would wake up to the obviousness of piracy's advantages to their business.
Ever noticed Microsoft cracking down on piracy by individuals? No?
Ever seen rants on slashdot on how the RIAA, MPAA and their industries are obsolete? Now image what they're scared shitless of?
Headline should read: "Pompous university jerk buys what working class already found."
Kinda like someone discovering a continent where there's already living shitloads of people yeah? (and most likely was 'discovered' by vikings earlier anyways)
Either way, anti-intellectualism is bad okay? There is a difference between a small bunch of locals knowing about something and it being part of the general biological knowledge. Now, the knowledge will be part of what people study, and will be preserved.
I mean, how much of what you know and learn do you think you were the first to find out? Learning is next to always about learning from somebody (often by proxy though), and what markes out a discovery is the first person to discover the signifance of the knowledge.
You have no grasp of what 'kilo', 'mega', and 'giga' mean. They have meant the same thing for 45 years, computers did not change that. There is a standard for binary powers, you simply refuse to use it.
Being able to keep two thoughts in your head simultaniosly is a nice skill.
Sure, kilo, mega and giga scientific meanings never changed, but kilo, mega and giga in computer science started as out the binary values. They are still in use, when reporting free space left on your hard-drive both Windows and Linux use binary thousands. Saying this is a clear cut case is just ignoring reality, as using 1024 really does simplify alot of the math.
Secondly, if the manufacturers actually had come out and said 'we have decided to adhere to scientific standards and use regular 1000's' and clearly marked their products as such, we wouldn't have any problems now. The problem is, they didn't. They just silently changed it, causing shitloads of confusion along the way. Of all the alternatives in this mess, they choose the one which could ruin an engineers day, only for the purpose of having your drive look a few % larger.
Some fool let the marketers in on the engineering meetings and we all lived to rue that day.
For example if Annakin and Padme had had access to contraceptive technology Annakin might never have turned to the dark side and billions of lives would have been saved.
Well.. it's late in the story, so I'll doubt this get read, however:
I think the general consensus amoung you slashdotters here mainly stem from the fact that you're a little behind in cell-phone technology. Over here, cell phones are already starting to eat away at the portable music-player market (this is going strictly from what I see with my friends though, I doubt it'll turn up at market-analysises this soon).
Good music playing phones already exist, and why shouldn't they? Playing music is simple, calling is simple, using sms is simple. There is no general purpose interface, and none of the generalization problems PDA's end up with.
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Apple never claimed to be the white night
Yeah, that would be silly, people prefer black nights.
Halfway through this game, I was ready to call it a brilliant successor, a game which I had no doubt would ultimately prove even better than the original.
Posting just to say I agree.
That game and Trojka going under(I want another Vampire: Bloodlines!) top my list of disasters in the gaming world.
At the risk of invoking Godwin's Law, I invite you to consider how differently WW2 might have turned out if Germany hadn't forced all of its Jewish scientists into exile
Well.. the costs of occupieng all those countries would have wrecked havoc on the German econemy and they most likely would have been dead broke by 42/43.
A healthy common economy was a large part of the reason the common man supported the regime, and without re-distributing wealth from jews they never would have been able to pull it of.
.. although I must admit I find the notion of allowing discrimination in the first place abhorrent, and it goes to show how different the different meanings of 'freedom' are
You don't actually think Hitler Jugend thaught to 'be evil and mean and generally fuck people up' do you? Everybody put in the good stuff, what matters is what else they put in there.
A line like 'Duty to God and the Queen' may not mean much now, but in the right context it could. I'm not scared of what the scouts are, insofar what they easily could become (is that sentence correct btw?.. not a native speaker)
Oh, and I'll assume you're either trolling, an idiot or using a gimmick with those commie references. Boy scouts have fascist roots, not commie.
Small children required to stand at attention, swearing oats they don't understand. Small children learning obidience to elders, to an organisation out of their parents control. Ever read about that anywhere? (this was a core element in italic/german fascism for the knowledge-impaired)
Sure, the organisation is benign and all nice and stuff now, but will it stay that way?
Heat transfer is a function of Heat conductivity and Temperature difference. Metals conduct heat much better, hence the energy transfer for equal temperatures will be larger for metals than water.
You are however, correct in noting that the water will heat up slower, however that is just a matter of getting the liquid away fast enough. After all, lower heat up time also means lower cool down time, so the overall temperature of the system won't be affected.
Either way, and alternate solution is to just move here to Norway and open your window occasionally.
Why oh why? Maybe democracy is more of a long-term thing than you think. Maybe a bloody war is more of a short-term thing than you think.
Oh sure, the wars are short term for us, but not for the people living there. Democrazy is long term yeah, but I'm still willing to bet quite alot large parts of the world would have been better off without the West meddling. I mean, does it matter if democrazy is long-term, it's influence on other countries ain't any better for it.
How you turn that into a sad thing, I do not know.
The sad thing was that I think the fact that poor people haven't been a major factor in the west for a long time will change. Read the sentence.
So relax people, the 21st century is yet another one where life is better than in the one before.
I guess that depends on how centric you choose to be. Asia, Europe and North America is certainly better off. Africa is not. South America is gradually rising again, but that seems to be a direct cause of lack of US interest aswell as prevailance of socialist regimes.
Oh, on that note, this is the first time I've been modded down when on these tangents, though I was modded up first. I could understand off-topic, or over-rated.. but Flamebait?!
Sorry, that link doesn't work, could you check link again mate?
I only get this stupid 'You have now successfully installed Apache' page. I mean, what is that all about?!
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we held every single corporation to blame for incorrect practices of employees and management, the economy would collapse.
The current situation is not a result of a few individual isolated wrongdoings. There are fare too many of them, and lack of long-term/real perspective is so pervavise in so many aspects of the society is downright frightening.
Me, as a fairly anti-US government European see this very clearly in your foreign policy. Sanity/long-term strategy has been thrown out of the window (christ, you guys actually invaded both Afghanistan and bloody Iraq! why oh why?!) and replaced by short-term goals and quick profits. I'm fairly certain I'd find much of the same if I payed as much attention to European foreign politics as US ones, but I'm frankly too scared to look, and am starting to prefer to keep my illusions.
I think, in the end real changes come from the bottom. The poorer people in the west has had it too good for too long now, and isn't a factor to be feared anymore. I'm fairly certain, sadly enough, that is going go change.
"CBS news is reporting that SMARTGUARD software is releasing a new application that will allow parents to have the illusion that they control their children's PC gaming".
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Says who? So far I've counted you and grand-parent, if you keep on like this you can start a petetion!
It could be that the shareholders really just want a short term profit, and if so, the company isn't likely to last too long.
So basically, you don't see anything wrong with a company causing massive long-term damage as long as it's what the shareholders want? It's the rest of the world that has to live with the consequenses..
That sounds absolutly ridicilous. If a controlling majority is for a non-profit route (else they'd just switch out the leadership) why in heaven should the courts interfere?
Correction; you think that's what corporate officers are supposed to do.
Some of us actually hold the radical and crazy opinion that a company should make decisions based jointly on their own need and the needs of society. If a new chemical was discovered to be extremely polluting, yet slightly cheaper than the alternative and not yet covered by emmision controls, would you be comfortable with companies adopting it widely?
That would be great, except that in non-socialist countries there's no good way to retire without being a shareholder at some point or another.
First of all, there is a difference between owning stock and being an active shareholder. I'd say the mindset prevailent among the latter of these to be a major problem. Secondly, why is it difficult to retire without being a shareholder? It ain't difficult over here atleast.
Yeah, I'm totally with them!
The difference for the students is the one between numbers and people.
For the school board (or however you're organized over there), there is a case of '500 SSN's got leaked, oh well.. the bad publicity will cost us less than hiring competent people'.
For the students it's, 'holy shit, they're practically giving away our SSN's, I don't want my bank-account suddenly emptied'
The victims have an inherit motivation in not becoming fucked over. The overseer's main motivation is not being yelled at.
You have to remember that a widespread viewership is not the goal of the RIAA, MPAA, and Microsoft. Nor do they care about increased profits.[...]
What? Seriously, what? Debunking something like this is hard, because I have friggin idea what you're basing this on. Are you seriously thinking two organisations made up of lots of large corporations have managed to create consensus to start an evil-brainwashing campaign? What planet are you living on?
Sure, some of the stuff they've pulled of is downright scaring, and needs to stop (late reports on propaganda aimed at children f.x.), but managing to conclude from this that their primary purpose is to destroy as free-thinking indiviuals is just plain lunacy! At worst, it's their secondary objective.
These people want to be in control over everybody. This is why they increasingly want to create laws limiting the rights of people to information.
Specifically, RIAA and MPAA want to restrict your freedom in concerns to movies and music. That's not very surprising either. Either way, for your sake, I do hope you have other cultural influences , because even if they succeeded, I'm not sure I'd personally notice much difference.
That, not profits, is the goal of the RIAA, MPAA, and Microsoft. Otherwise, they would wake up to the obviousness of piracy's advantages to their business.
Ever noticed Microsoft cracking down on piracy by individuals? No?
Ever seen rants on slashdot on how the RIAA, MPAA and their industries are obsolete? Now image what they're scared shitless of?
Kinda like someone discovering a continent where there's already living shitloads of people yeah? (and most likely was 'discovered' by vikings earlier anyways)
Either way, anti-intellectualism is bad okay? There is a difference between a small bunch of locals knowing about something and it being part of the general biological knowledge. Now, the knowledge will be part of what people study, and will be preserved.
I mean, how much of what you know and learn do you think you were the first to find out? Learning is next to always about learning from somebody (often by proxy though), and what markes out a discovery is the first person to discover the signifance of the knowledge.
Being able to keep two thoughts in your head simultaniosly is a nice skill.
Sure, kilo, mega and giga scientific meanings never changed, but kilo, mega and giga in computer science started as out the binary values. They are still in use, when reporting free space left on your hard-drive both Windows and Linux use binary thousands. Saying this is a clear cut case is just ignoring reality, as using 1024 really does simplify alot of the math.
Secondly, if the manufacturers actually had come out and said 'we have decided to adhere to scientific standards and use regular 1000's' and clearly marked their products as such, we wouldn't have any problems now. The problem is, they didn't. They just silently changed it, causing shitloads of confusion along the way. Of all the alternatives in this mess, they choose the one which could ruin an engineers day, only for the purpose of having your drive look a few % larger.
Some fool let the marketers in on the engineering meetings and we all lived to rue that day.
[raving idiot]
Abstinence is the only 100% sure way!
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I think the general consensus amoung you slashdotters here mainly stem from the fact that you're a little behind in cell-phone technology. Over here, cell phones are already starting to eat away at the portable music-player market (this is going strictly from what I see with my friends though, I doubt it'll turn up at market-analysises this soon).
Good music playing phones already exist, and why shouldn't they? Playing music is simple, calling is simple, using sms is simple. There is no general purpose interface, and none of the generalization problems PDA's end up with.
Yeah, that would be silly, people prefer black nights.
A manual car doesn't roll away when left in gear.
Posting just to say I agree.
That game and Trojka going under(I want another Vampire: Bloodlines!) top my list of disasters in the gaming world.
Well.. the costs of occupieng all those countries would have wrecked havoc on the German econemy and they most likely would have been dead broke by 42/43.
A healthy common economy was a large part of the reason the common man supported the regime, and without re-distributing wealth from jews they never would have been able to pull it of.
What?
Seriously
I am never, ever going to understand you guys.
Freedom to oppress, or freedom from oppression?
Microsoft Europe is a pure salesmachine afaik. They don't do anything usefull ever.
A line like 'Duty to God and the Queen' may not mean much now, but in the right context it could. I'm not scared of what the scouts are, insofar what they easily could become (is that sentence correct btw? .. not a native speaker)
Oh, and I'll assume you're either trolling, an idiot or using a gimmick with those commie references. Boy scouts have fascist roots, not commie.
Post-it notes all the way baby!
Boy scouts scare the shit out of me.
Small children required to stand at attention, swearing oats they don't understand. Small children learning obidience to elders, to an organisation out of their parents control. Ever read about that anywhere? (this was a core element in italic/german fascism for the knowledge-impaired)
Sure, the organisation is benign and all nice and stuff now, but will it stay that way?
You are however, correct in noting that the water will heat up slower, however that is just a matter of getting the liquid away fast enough. After all, lower heat up time also means lower cool down time, so the overall temperature of the system won't be affected.
Either way, and alternate solution is to just move here to Norway and open your window occasionally.
Oh sure, the wars are short term for us, but not for the people living there. Democrazy is long term yeah, but I'm still willing to bet quite alot large parts of the world would have been better off without the West meddling. I mean, does it matter if democrazy is long-term, it's influence on other countries ain't any better for it.
How you turn that into a sad thing, I do not know.
The sad thing was that I think the fact that poor people haven't been a major factor in the west for a long time will change. Read the sentence.
So relax people, the 21st century is yet another one where life is better than in the one before.
I guess that depends on how centric you choose to be. Asia, Europe and North America is certainly better off. Africa is not. South America is gradually rising again, but that seems to be a direct cause of lack of US interest aswell as prevailance of socialist regimes.
Oh, on that note, this is the first time I've been modded down when on these tangents, though I was modded up first. I could understand off-topic, or over-rated.. but Flamebait?!
Sorry, that link doesn't work, could you check link again mate?
I only get this stupid 'You have now successfully installed Apache' page. I mean, what is that all about?!
The current situation is not a result of a few individual isolated wrongdoings. There are fare too many of them, and lack of long-term/real perspective is so pervavise in so many aspects of the society is downright frightening.
Me, as a fairly anti-US government European see this very clearly in your foreign policy. Sanity/long-term strategy has been thrown out of the window (christ, you guys actually invaded both Afghanistan and bloody Iraq! why oh why?!) and replaced by short-term goals and quick profits. I'm fairly certain I'd find much of the same if I payed as much attention to European foreign politics as US ones, but I'm frankly too scared to look, and am starting to prefer to keep my illusions.
I think, in the end real changes come from the bottom. The poorer people in the west has had it too good for too long now, and isn't a factor to be feared anymore. I'm fairly certain, sadly enough, that is going go change.
Sounds like a win-win situation to me