Yes, entirely right. That's the trouble with capitalism. AND it's the trouble with socialism. And with dictatorship. With every form of government and society and economic system. Greed leads to corporations running roughshod, but it also leads to corruption in government.
Actually, communist and other dictatorships are the best able to deal with runaway avarice, wrongdoing and corruption, because they are the best prepared and willing to apply ruthless force if they perceive a problem. They don't always do so, but at least there is a chance they can do so effectively.
Funny. I categorically won't even consider anything EXCEPT Intel graphics hardware for linux. It does a beautiful job for anything I need. Not only 10 year old stuff, but the latest. I've got both ancient 865 and 945, and two Sandy Bridge systems running PUIAS6 (free RHEL6 clone) and other distros - flawlessly.
I wouldn't use Nvidia and AMD power hog crap even if completely capable linux drivers WERE available open source. I don't need dozens of wasted watts to draw text and little pictures on my monitor. And I certainly don't need it to play HD accelerated video.
Please elaborate. VAAPI has been open and working for a long time. Nobody uses it (are you listening, mplayer guys??? - idiots), but that's hardly because VAAPI isn't there. (actually vlc uses it)
Well aware of that. I was trying out both Gnome and KDE on FreeBSD about 10 years ago.
Practically every distro supports lots of DEs and WMs. Any distro that still supports Gnome2 won't be able to do so for long. I'm on RHEL6 so I'm good til 2017. After that, as of now, looks like Xfce will be the only DE worth more than a bucket of warm spit.
I looked at the page too. The word "experimental" does not occur there. It's targeted at Fedora 18 and is 85% complete already.
While I might not care if Fedora gets screwed up by this abortion, Fedora is the source for Redhat Enterprise Linux, and I care VERY MUCH if RHEL 7 gets screwed up come 2013 or 2014.
Do not want. Will not accept. Have a nice day and bye. Fix stupid apps and libs; don't cater to lowest denominator. Yeah I understand in the proposal there is still an option to do updates the old way, but how long do you think that will survive?
This idiot is progressively turning linux into a cesspool. Don't take my word for it. Take the word of 18,600 guys. This guy is a one man engine of destruction.
FAIL. That's not the same as what this MIS-feature does. This abortion actually APPLIES the updates during the bootup process - like -hack- Windows -spit-.
This feature was in other distributions for years if not decades -- if kernel or libraries used by everything are updated, the updater asks the user to reboot, otherwise only affected programs are restarted.
Nobody would ever suggest Seagate's own designs lately were any better than garbage fit for the sewer. Samsung HD204UI 2TB was the ultimate. I currently have 22 of them running 24x7; never the slightest hiccup from them in three years. The last six were under the Seagate banner, with a Seagate part number but still stamped HD204UI as well, and running the exact same firmware (so they can't be too different - yet). Once the Samsung line succumbs to the inevitable crappy design, workmanship, and QC of Seagate drives in general, I'm not sure what I will do. Because the only thing worse than Seagate is -hack- WD -spit-.
Just curious. Why were we right to "go to war" with Germany? Assume you mean WW 2. Hint: it's a trick question. Germany declared war on the US first. But the question still stands. Why was war with Germany "right"?
I don't have to read anything. I have first hand experience with many kinds of antique electronics. I'm not going to tell you that electrolytics never failed until crap manufacturers started using crap constituents and crap manufacturing in the late 90's, but I CAN tell you they didn't practically always fail after a piss-poor life like they did after that. And I CAN tell you a lot of mil surplus stuff from Vietnam, Korea, and WW-II still works, original electrolytics and all. That's not a guess; that's first hand experience. I CAN tell you that it's not uncommon that computer equipment from the 70s and 80s still works, but it IS uncommon that stuff from the late 90s through at least the mid 2000's works for more than a few years, and there is still a lot of crap being built, though it is starting to recover a little from the nadir of around 2000.
They didn't make everything out of CRAP in those days. I've got electrolytics over 50 years old in an R-392 surplus tube type receiver that still work fine - the whole receiver works fine, dozens of tubes, intricate geared ganged tuning slugs and all. If you contracted to build that thing today you would probably pay north of $100,000 per, even using surplus tubes from ebay.
I've got a 10,000 uF 15 V electrolytic I bought around 1960 or so, somewhere. Or was it 100,000? If I can find it, I can test it with a DVM and a resistor.
x86 is ugly. It's one of the most screwed up, inconsistent, crufty architectures ever created.
So? Who cares? No, really. It certainly isn't even visible or detectable by the user. It matters to compiler writers, but both proprietary and FOSS compiler writers mastered the cruft, so that's a done deal. Why would anyone else give a crap?
Anyway, it's only x86_32 (aka i386) that is really grossly idiosyncratic. x86_64 fixes the gross idiosyncrasies. Unlike the paucity and specialization of registers in x86_32, x86_64 has sixteen general purpose registers, and is well suited to simple flat memory model programming.
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Yes, entirely right. That's the trouble with capitalism. AND it's the trouble with socialism. And with dictatorship. With every form of government and society and economic system. Greed leads to corporations running roughshod, but it also leads to corruption in government.
Actually, communist and other dictatorships are the best able to deal with runaway avarice, wrongdoing and corruption, because they are the best prepared and willing to apply ruthless force if they perceive a problem. They don't always do so, but at least there is a chance they can do so effectively.
Funny. I categorically won't even consider anything EXCEPT Intel graphics hardware for linux. It does a beautiful job for anything I need. Not only 10 year old stuff, but the latest. I've got both ancient 865 and 945, and two Sandy Bridge systems running PUIAS6 (free RHEL6 clone) and other distros - flawlessly.
I wouldn't use Nvidia and AMD power hog crap even if completely capable linux drivers WERE available open source. I don't need dozens of wasted watts to draw text and little pictures on my monitor. And I certainly don't need it to play HD accelerated video.
Please elaborate. VAAPI has been open and working for a long time. Nobody uses it (are you listening, mplayer guys??? - idiots), but that's hardly because VAAPI isn't there. (actually vlc uses it)
[fnj@baldur FullDisc]$ rpm -qa|grep libva
libva-devel-1.0.15-1.puias6.x86_64
libva-1.0.15-1.puias6.x86_64
libva-freeworld-1.0.14-1.puias6.x86_64
libva-utils-1.0.15-1.puias6.x86_64
[fnj@baldur FullDisc]$
Unfortunately I'm afraid it's not him calling it linux. It's Redhat who is giving this weirdo power and calling his crap linux.
Well aware of that. I was trying out both Gnome and KDE on FreeBSD about 10 years ago.
Practically every distro supports lots of DEs and WMs. Any distro that still supports Gnome2 won't be able to do so for long. I'm on RHEL6 so I'm good til 2017. After that, as of now, looks like Xfce will be the only DE worth more than a bucket of warm spit.
If you had said Xfce I could accept that :-)
I looked at the page too. The word "experimental" does not occur there. It's targeted at Fedora 18 and is 85% complete already.
While I might not care if Fedora gets screwed up by this abortion, Fedora is the source for Redhat Enterprise Linux, and I care VERY MUCH if RHEL 7 gets screwed up come 2013 or 2014.
Assuming you don't want to RTFA, how about the the feature page itself.
Official feature page
Do not want. Will not accept. Have a nice day and bye. Fix stupid apps and libs; don't cater to lowest denominator. Yeah I understand in the proposal there is still an option to do updates the old way, but how long do you think that will survive?
This idiot is progressively turning linux into a cesspool. Don't take my word for it. Take the word of 18,600 guys. This guy is a one man engine of destruction.
FAIL. That's not the same as what this MIS-feature does. This abortion actually APPLIES the updates during the bootup process - like -hack- Windows -spit-.
And just what do you think BSD will do when the orphaned Gnome2 is no longer a viable desktop (security vulnerabilities, unfixed bugs, etc)?
Nobody would ever suggest Seagate's own designs lately were any better than garbage fit for the sewer. Samsung HD204UI 2TB was the ultimate. I currently have 22 of them running 24x7; never the slightest hiccup from them in three years. The last six were under the Seagate banner, with a Seagate part number but still stamped HD204UI as well, and running the exact same firmware (so they can't be too different - yet). Once the Samsung line succumbs to the inevitable crappy design, workmanship, and QC of Seagate drives in general, I'm not sure what I will do. Because the only thing worse than Seagate is -hack- WD -spit-.
I have one word for you. Samsung 830 series. OK, that's three words, but that's totally where the performance, life, and reliability come together.
If (when) they did (do) have nuclear weapons, exactly how will that stop the US from "fucking with" them? Eh?
Just curious. Why were we right to "go to war" with Germany? Assume you mean WW 2. Hint: it's a trick question. Germany declared war on the US first. But the question still stands. Why was war with Germany "right"?
I don't have to read anything. I have first hand experience with many kinds of antique electronics. I'm not going to tell you that electrolytics never failed until crap manufacturers started using crap constituents and crap manufacturing in the late 90's, but I CAN tell you they didn't practically always fail after a piss-poor life like they did after that. And I CAN tell you a lot of mil surplus stuff from Vietnam, Korea, and WW-II still works, original electrolytics and all. That's not a guess; that's first hand experience. I CAN tell you that it's not uncommon that computer equipment from the 70s and 80s still works, but it IS uncommon that stuff from the late 90s through at least the mid 2000's works for more than a few years, and there is still a lot of crap being built, though it is starting to recover a little from the nadir of around 2000.
They didn't make everything out of CRAP in those days. I've got electrolytics over 50 years old in an R-392 surplus tube type receiver that still work fine - the whole receiver works fine, dozens of tubes, intricate geared ganged tuning slugs and all. If you contracted to build that thing today you would probably pay north of $100,000 per, even using surplus tubes from ebay.
I've got a 10,000 uF 15 V electrolytic I bought around 1960 or so, somewhere. Or was it 100,000? If I can find it, I can test it with a DVM and a resistor.
So? Who cares? No, really. It certainly isn't even visible or detectable by the user. It matters to compiler writers, but both proprietary and FOSS compiler writers mastered the cruft, so that's a done deal. Why would anyone else give a crap?
Anyway, it's only x86_32 (aka i386) that is really grossly idiosyncratic. x86_64 fixes the gross idiosyncrasies. Unlike the paucity and specialization of registers in x86_32, x86_64 has sixteen general purpose registers, and is well suited to simple flat memory model programming.
Ubuntu 10.04, Debian 6.0, Fedora 16, and OpenSUSE 12.1 ONLY. Are you kidding me?
OP is not a troll. Deal with the content, not the language.
There's a much easier way to get the shit off your pc. Insert CD or USB drive, install linux. Done. And it will STAY DONE.
Complete bullshit.
Bingo. That's exactly what I have always done. It is the only safe course of action if you think you might ever need the warranty.
Most. Twisted. Logic. Ever.
As an aside, I find open source drivers as a rule to be far better quality than manufacturer-supplied drivers.
Somehow I don't think the Dalai Lama sees himself as what you see him as.