You must have read the wrong post. The grandparent post just made a small, baseless and very objectionable claim and the rest of the post was filled to overgeneralized, condescending comments. So, it isn't a matter of disagreeing with legitimate claims. It is a matter of shutting down trolls.
IMHO that's the reasoning for the decision to develop the 380 (French pride probably played a role too =)
if you looked carefully, you would know that the project isn't exclusivelly french. I seriously doubt that the stereotyped behaviour you are reffering to had any impact whatsoever. After all, ego hasn't much room in a project where 5 governments and a heck of a lot of investor's money is involved.
much as I am for civil rights and gay marriage, this is inflammatory. Just because Microsoft changed their stance from pro to neutral (not against), this makes them bigoted? I don't buy that. I don't buy that at al
You would understand imediately if you knew that the leader of GLEAM is Zapp Brannigan himself.
It's a way to stop programs needing to distribute a redhat rpm and a suse rpm and a mandrake rpm and a debian deb and so on, instead you just make a lsb rpm which works on any lsb distro.
I believe that Autopackage doesn't need a LSB to work properly.
Convicted of abusing its *monopoly*. Six of one, half-dozen of the other.
Yes, convicted of abusing it's market position. That's what I said in my previous post. It is easy to see that it is not the same thing as being a monopoly, as you claimed in your previous post. At least it you corrected yourself this time, which is always nice.
Where are your facts coming from?
You don't need a special source of information to know what was Microsoft charged for. You just need to follow the news with a bit of attention.
I find it very, very strange that some people do really believe that buying a second processor just to make an operating system work around its security problems and it's inefficience is a reasonable decision.
Yes, because it's that much better to waste it to run spyware and viruses
I believe the vast majority of people isn't forced to use a bug-ridden, spyware-haven insecure piece of sh*t Windows is. There are alternatives which don't have the need to deal with those problems, you know...
You are trying to ignore a whole lot of people who don't understand what Unix can do, whether they are regular people or even people which make suggestions about the adoption/migration of software inside a company.
Besides that point, before someone understands what Unix is/can do, that person doesn't understand what Unix is or what it can do. What is the largest group: those who are knowledgeable about Unix or those who are ignorant?
It only takes one linux distribution to be unsafe for certain marketing whores to start up the FUD machine and start cashing in on that piece of information. It may be disonest but that's the way marketing works. While the people on the know will laugh at the idea, the ignorant masses will read that linux, as a whole, is very insecure and move away from it.
MS was convicted of being a monopoly, and as such must comply with the law regardless of what you think companies should be allowed to do.
Wrong. Microsoft wasn't convicted of being a monopoly. It was convicted of abusing it's market position. They are two different things. Get your facts straight.
I guess that this must be an inverse contest. Whoever wins will prove that they spend too much valuable time thinking about pranks instead of getting an education.
But, if they release CherryOS via GPL, wouldn't it invalidate the hipotetical PearPC lawsuit? If it is released under the GPL, then PearPC can be accounted as a fork of the projects which were ripped off.
Why do it? A) Because they/we can B) Because just because it's there, no one is forced to use it C) Because a fork/spinoff doesn't "dilute the brand" (look at debian) D) Because in the first place, distros are created to scratch a certain itch that the other distros don't scratch (or scratch as well) E) Because a fork in a project doesn't necessarily mean that there will be less volunteers working on any project F) Because no one is forced to work for a certain distro, even less if that person is volunteering. IT'S VOLUNTEERING, FOR GOD'S SAKE!!
This is about the government making a decision for people it has no place making..
Well... It has a place for making that decision. First of all, it isn't forcing linux down it's citizens' throats. It is simply selecting a certain product to be available under subsidy, which happens to be a better solution than the usually adopted.
And lets not forget that, because of Brazil's push on open source, it is the smart thing to do. All in all, it is investing in its program to develop its hi-tech sector and in the process supporting the country's hi-tech infrastructure and keeping the spending to a minimum.
If you are so sure about the design errors and what would be the best way to correct them, why are you posting flames on slashdot instead of submitting patches to the g++ project?
Leave Tiemann alone. His contributions may not be the best (at your eyes, at least) but he is contributing *a lot* to the community. Let's praise what he did/does and not bad-mouth his effords.
There is something more going on here than just using a different browser. Police would never arrest someone just because of the browser he was using. Was he trying to hack into the website? If he did that, then it is a crime and the police had the right to arrest and jail him (hopefully for a long time).
According to the news, the guy was indeed jailed for using a different browser. What happened was that the site operator read the access logs and because he found the access logs a bit unusual (didn't recognized the browser identification and all), he reported them to the police, who raided the guy's house.
I am not absolutely sure if that is the whole story or if it is missing something (journalists... bah....) but if it isn't, it is quite alarming.
I have the strangest feeling the Usenet is finally dying its rather long-deserved death.
Long-deserved death? I beg to differ! The Usenet was, is and will keep on being a great tool to discussion on some rather obscure/specialized topics and therefore a great learning tool. Just because you don't know how to use it in a usefull maner it doesn't mean it should die.
Personally, thanks to the Usenet not only do I know how to program in Fortran, C++ and a bit of C too but I also discovered Linux and was able to get it up and running flawlessly. Whenever I have some troubleshooting problems or doubts, google groups is always there. If it doesn't return a result, I post and moments later I get an answer. Are you able to show me any other method to do that at least as efectively as Usenet? You can't.
Mandrake's objective isn't to outperform microsoft (or any other company) in the earnings column. Mandrake's objective is to create a linux distribution which is very solid and so user-friendly that can be considered a realistic alternative to other OSs out there and making a nice pile of euros from it. They are succeeding at it and I hope they keep it up.
The fact that although they are all projects made by the community and for the community, they hold up pretty well against professional products and in some cases they even outperform them, whether it is in terms of functionality or in terms of technical achievement. That's what I consider inspiring and newsworthy.
On the other hand, I don't find dissimulated commercials inspiring and in the end this is one.
What part of "News for Nerds" translates into "News for OSS zealots?"
So, do you consider the release of a new version of an uninspiring IM client "News for Nerds" ? Personally I don't or at least I don't find it worthy of a front page release. If it is, I guess the new releases of other, more inspiring clients (gaim, aMsn, kopete, adium, miranda, etc...) will be shown in the main page too.
Torus-shaped water pipe? Where in the world did you come up with that stupid idea? You are certainly not a civil engineer or have a background in construction.
First of all, that isn't exactly a "off the shelve" product and custom parts take a whole pile of money to make and another whole pile of money to maintain. Those two details alone would invalidate that sugestion in any constructor's mind.
Now on the technical solution. If a torus-shaped design was used, it would certainly not be just a torus-shaped water pipe cut in half horizontally. It would have to be a custom valve of some sorts. And valves always break seals. They break seal when they are working and when they malfunction. Remember that in them there is a fluid under pressure.
But the biggest annoyance would be the instaltion/replacement of those valves. Valves like that aren't eternal and they would have to be replaced sooner or later. Static piping is a lot more durable and still, it needs to be changed once in a while. How would you do do that? Cut off the building's axis? Create a multi-segmented valve? If the former design leaked, imagine what that one would do. That isn't practical at all.
The rotor solution may easily work with electrical current but with fluids? Not trivial at all.
P.S.: how in the world did this brain fart got +5 informative?
Now I hope that the linux kernel people learned their lesson and that the project's next stable release is really stable, which wasn't by far the 2.6 case.
Don't get me wrong. I love linux and I'm very gratefull for the work that group of people invests into the project. Still, 2.6 wasn't by far near the stable status it got and that misslabelling can be very counterproductive. After all, the common idea is that linux is difficult, not ready for serious work and incredibly buggy and a buggy release just helps to perpetuate those ideas.
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You must have read the wrong post. The grandparent post just made a small, baseless and very objectionable claim and the rest of the post was filled to overgeneralized, condescending comments. So, it isn't a matter of disagreeing with legitimate claims. It is a matter of shutting down trolls.
if you looked carefully, you would know that the project isn't exclusivelly french. I seriously doubt that the stereotyped behaviour you are reffering to had any impact whatsoever. After all, ego hasn't much room in a project where 5 governments and a heck of a lot of investor's money is involved.
You would understand imediately if you knew that the leader of GLEAM is Zapp Brannigan himself.
I believe that Autopackage doesn't need a LSB to work properly.
Yes, convicted of abusing it's market position. That's what I said in my previous post. It is easy to see that it is not the same thing as being a monopoly, as you claimed in your previous post. At least it you corrected yourself this time, which is always nice.
You don't need a special source of information to know what was Microsoft charged for. You just need to follow the news with a bit of attention.
I find it very, very strange that some people do really believe that buying a second processor just to make an operating system work around its security problems and it's inefficience is a reasonable decision.
I believe the vast majority of people isn't forced to use a bug-ridden, spyware-haven insecure piece of sh*t Windows is. There are alternatives which don't have the need to deal with those problems, you know...
You are trying to ignore a whole lot of people who don't understand what Unix can do, whether they are regular people or even people which make suggestions about the adoption/migration of software inside a company.
Besides that point, before someone understands what Unix is/can do, that person doesn't understand what Unix is or what it can do. What is the largest group: those who are knowledgeable about Unix or those who are ignorant?
Not quite.
It only takes one linux distribution to be unsafe for certain marketing whores to start up the FUD machine and start cashing in on that piece of information. It may be disonest but that's the way marketing works. While the people on the know will laugh at the idea, the ignorant masses will read that linux, as a whole, is very insecure and move away from it.
Wrong. Microsoft wasn't convicted of being a monopoly. It was convicted of abusing it's market position. They are two different things. Get your facts straight.
I guess that this must be an inverse contest. Whoever wins will prove that they spend too much valuable time thinking about pranks instead of getting an education.
But, if they release CherryOS via GPL, wouldn't it invalidate the hipotetical PearPC lawsuit? If it is released under the GPL, then PearPC can be accounted as a fork of the projects which were ripped off.
Why do it?
A) Because they/we can
B) Because just because it's there, no one is forced to use it
C) Because a fork/spinoff doesn't "dilute the brand" (look at debian)
D) Because in the first place, distros are created to scratch a certain itch that the other distros don't scratch (or scratch as well)
E) Because a fork in a project doesn't necessarily mean that there will be less volunteers working on any project
F) Because no one is forced to work for a certain distro, even less if that person is volunteering. IT'S VOLUNTEERING, FOR GOD'S SAKE!!
Well... It has a place for making that decision. First of all, it isn't forcing linux down it's citizens' throats. It is simply selecting a certain product to be available under subsidy, which happens to be a better solution than the usually adopted.
And lets not forget that, because of Brazil's push on open source, it is the smart thing to do. All in all, it is investing in its program to develop its hi-tech sector and in the process supporting the country's hi-tech infrastructure and keeping the spending to a minimum.
It may not be mozilla-based but still, take a look at psi. It is cross-platform, it is open-source software and it uses an open protocol: jabber.
If you are so sure about the design errors and what would be the best way to correct them, why are you posting flames on slashdot instead of submitting patches to the g++ project?
Leave Tiemann alone. His contributions may not be the best (at your eyes, at least) but he is contributing *a lot* to the community. Let's praise what he did/does and not bad-mouth his effords.
...if other "reputable" download services like soulseek are up to the same wrongdoings as kazaa. How can anyone know for sure?
According to the news, the guy was indeed jailed for using a different browser. What happened was that the site operator read the access logs and because he found the access logs a bit unusual (didn't recognized the browser identification and all), he reported them to the police, who raided the guy's house.
I am not absolutely sure if that is the whole story or if it is missing something (journalists... bah....) but if it isn't, it is quite alarming.
Long-deserved death? I beg to differ! The Usenet was, is and will keep on being a great tool to discussion on some rather obscure/specialized topics and therefore a great learning tool. Just because you don't know how to use it in a usefull maner it doesn't mean it should die.
Personally, thanks to the Usenet not only do I know how to program in Fortran, C++ and a bit of C too but I also discovered Linux and was able to get it up and running flawlessly. Whenever I have some troubleshooting problems or doubts, google groups is always there. If it doesn't return a result, I post and moments later I get an answer. Are you able to show me any other method to do that at least as efectively as Usenet? You can't.
Mandrake's objective isn't to outperform microsoft (or any other company) in the earnings column. Mandrake's objective is to create a linux distribution which is very solid and so user-friendly that can be considered a realistic alternative to other OSs out there and making a nice pile of euros from it. They are succeeding at it and I hope they keep it up.
The fact that although they are all projects made by the community and for the community, they hold up pretty well against professional products and in some cases they even outperform them, whether it is in terms of functionality or in terms of technical achievement. That's what I consider inspiring and newsworthy.
On the other hand, I don't find dissimulated commercials inspiring and in the end this is one.
So, do you consider the release of a new version of an uninspiring IM client "News for Nerds" ? Personally I don't or at least I don't find it worthy of a front page release. If it is, I guess the new releases of other, more inspiring clients (gaim, aMsn, kopete, adium, miranda, etc...) will be shown in the main page too.
Gaim doesn't handle voice/video chat... yet. So, it doesn't quite replace an IM client like Trillian.
But don't get me wrong. Gaim, as a basic IM client, is pretty handy and is improving rapidly. It is my main IM client under windows and linux.
Torus-shaped water pipe? Where in the world did you come up with that stupid idea? You are certainly not a civil engineer or have a background in construction.
First of all, that isn't exactly a "off the shelve" product and custom parts take a whole pile of money to make and another whole pile of money to maintain. Those two details alone would invalidate that sugestion in any constructor's mind.
Now on the technical solution. If a torus-shaped design was used, it would certainly not be just a torus-shaped water pipe cut in half horizontally. It would have to be a custom valve of some sorts. And valves always break seals. They break seal when they are working and when they malfunction. Remember that in them there is a fluid under pressure.
But the biggest annoyance would be the instaltion/replacement of those valves. Valves like that aren't eternal and they would have to be replaced sooner or later. Static piping is a lot more durable and still, it needs to be changed once in a while. How would you do do that? Cut off the building's axis? Create a multi-segmented valve? If the former design leaked, imagine what that one would do. That isn't practical at all.
The rotor solution may easily work with electrical current but with fluids? Not trivial at all.
P.S.: how in the world did this brain fart got +5 informative?
Now I hope that the linux kernel people learned their lesson and that the project's next stable release is really stable, which wasn't by far the 2.6 case.
Don't get me wrong. I love linux and I'm very gratefull for the work that group of people invests into the project. Still, 2.6 wasn't by far near the stable status it got and that misslabelling can be very counterproductive. After all, the common idea is that linux is difficult, not ready for serious work and incredibly buggy and a buggy release just helps to perpetuate those ideas.