Yeah, it's the god damned internet. That doesn't mean that people don't have emotions on the internet.
I'm actually against marking this as a criminal offense, also for free speech reasons, but seriously. The very idea that she wasn't tormenting that girl is total BS. You can torment someone in person, you can torment them on the phone, you can torment them over IM or on IRC or whatever. The internet does not grant magical anti-emotion powers.
I'll jump on this grenade. There are a couple aspects that mitigate Apple's abusiveness. The first is that they are selectively abusive, with only particular aspects of their product offerings. For example, they are abusive with many of the products related to iTunes, including DRM'd digital content, and locked down iPods, iPhones and AppleTV. For the rest of their products, including Macs, Mac OS X, and the software they write, they are typically *more open* and *less controlling* than their direct competitors (Macs use standard parts you can swap as easily as those from competing OEMs, Mac OS X is largely built on open standards, and their software typically don't have any onerous activation or any outlandishly annoying copy protection.
Sorry, but that's BS. OSX is built on open standards, yes, but not because Apple worked to do it, but because they took BSD as a base. But they haven't actively tried to be open in any sense that I've ever seen. And their parts typically *have* been extremely locked down and incompatible with everything else. In fact, the majority of the apple fans I see on here seem to be calling this out as a feature all the time. ("Apple is more stable because they don't have to worry about any multiple combinations of technology! They only have a limited amount of hardware they have to support!")
Sorry, but the whole "Apple is mostly open... just not their DRM.. or their limited hardware... or the fact that they sue people who make operating-system-compatible hardware..." stuff is just complete and total bullshit.
Actually, this isn't really much of a turnaround. Microsoft has long played the "we love open source" (but hate GPL!) stance. The Apache foundation has long since been in the BSD-like license camp (there's very little actual difference between the apache license and BSD). Microsoft really doesn't mind being able to take code. It just doesn't like the idea of having to give back. This may be a way of trying to push the open source community to move toward the BSD-style licensing community... after all, Microsoft uses BSD code. OSX *definetly* uses BSD code. It's possible to totally be proprietary and be cool with BSD.
So what about the LGPL? The LGPL does require that if you make changes to the library, you have to give them back. So if you make changes to glib, you gotta give them back. But you can make any app link to glib, and be completely proprietary, and it doesn't have to be open source. In many ways, this isn't too much of a problem for Microsoft though, since they really aren't in the business of libraries, they're in the business of applications and operating systems. It's is a small advancement though.
So... I guess this kind of mentality puzzles me. There are a lot of apple users out there, who, like you, acknowldge that they're being dicked around mostly even because you take interest.
To me it almost seems like an abusive relationship. You care about them, they beat you up, and you keep coming back. Why?
Note, I don't mean you, per se. But it seems pretty common in the Apple fanboy communities.
No, actually... I'm about as anti-mac of a linux user can be. I just also recognize the frustrations I feel when I run Windows, and that feeling these frustrations do not make me a non-geek.
anyone who can't get Windows to run decently should be turning in their geek card already.
Really? Seriously?
Okay. I can get windows to run. Really, I can. That doesn't mean it isn't a fucking pain in the ass, a terrible user experience, and a waste of resources. Sorry, I have plenty of reasons to get headaches from windows. Not being geeky enough to handle it isn't one them.
Really, I just listen to HD streaming radio these days. Specifically, WCPE (classical music) and NPR Boston both publish in OGG Vorbis, which is great.
Oh yah, because they are so standarized in Windows. Let see if they all use the Windows toolkit and have the same UI for some common Windows Apps.
Office, nope
Firefox nope
Games nope
Let's be fair about number three, that's a problem with the gaming industry in general. Almost every game reinvents its own UI, on pretty much all platforms, anywhere. Yes, even on Linux.
derStandard.at: So you would favor GNOME to switch over to QT?
Shuttleworth: Well, I think it would be perfectly possible to deliver the values of GNOME on top of QT. There are licensing issues, GNOME is very much built on the LGPL, allowing companies to build their own products on a free software system, giving them some freedom and flexibility in their choice of licensing. That's very frankly been a huge drive for the adoption of GNOME by corporate ISVs.
He says in this article that GNOME was chosen for how easy to use it is. He's saying that the widget set doesn't dictate that, so the same thing could be done with QT, not that GNOME should be rewritten with QT.
Try watching them with Miro. Fullscreen functionality, saved to your computer in high definition, automatic downloads of the latest episodes, and yeah, fullscreen downloads. Search for TED in the Miro guide after installing and add the channel. Watching TED talks is one of the things that got me interested in Miro development:)
(The UI is nice but sometimes feels a little slow and clunky... that's being totaly overhauled for the next release.)
Back in the day, when I started using Linux, Mandrake (now Mandriva) was a great distribution that helped newbies like me hit the ground running. But now it seems like Ubuntu has gobbled up that market. Afaict, they don't have much of an "enterprise" market, and they don't have much of a "hacker" market... or am I wrong? What market is Mandriva serving these days?
So, there's a chance here, in this brief window of opportunity, to drum up proper opposition to this bill. I'm sure I'm not the only one who felt deeply hurt by Obama not really opposing this bill. Perhaps now's a good chance to get him to show us that he's a candidate of change we can actually believe in?
Oh yeah? And on that note, why not telecommute from India?
This helps bring blue collar jobs back home. That doesn't say anything about programming, or graphic design, or any of the jobs that most people who visit here probably have or want.
They're not limited to a single carrier, but Apple has gone above and beyond normal lockdowns with the iPhone. Limit to a single carrier? Not really new, though they did make themselves link up to AT&T, who has really been at the center of this. And cell phone OS'es have been pretty locked down in the past, and Apple had a chance to bring that in a different direction. They did the opposite, and brought monopolies to an entirely new level. To quote Steve Jobs:
"You don't want your phone to be an open platform," meaning that anyone can write applications for it and potentially gum up the provider's network, says Jobs. "You need it to work when you need it to work. Cingular doesn't want to see their West Coast network go down because some application messed up."
Now we know that's bullshit that you can't have a network be able to just run any application users want on it. We have the internet. Directly deciding who can run an application and who can not on your platform is really pretty much creating a monopoly to the most extreme level possible.
And some people have told me, "That's less Apple's doing than AT&T's." But do you really want to support a company who's willing to bend over that far for the will of the telecoms? Come on, if you really believe in these things, vote with your money!
Unfortunately, Apple TV is still DRM-laden, and if the internet was to go the direction that Apple TV is, it's going to become a pretty awful place to be IMO.
Fortunately there's a project that looks like it's going to become the Firefox of internet tv... and it's called Miro. It's based on simple, common and open standards... RSS, bittorrent, and just plain old DRM-free codecs. It's not pretending to be something magical, and indeed, it shouldn't.
It's already pretty enjoyable to use, but I've been doing some volunteering on the project. Trust me, the next iteration is going to be really slick.
True, unlikely they'll meet the 10 million mark. But originally they were setting a goal of 5 million. Seeing as how it's well over 6 million when I'm writing this, I'd say they're doing a damn fine job.
Would be a super generous donation, but if you honestly don't have a practical idea, perhaps donate to your local Free Geek chapter? Good drives at that size could help in the fight for bringing technology to those who couldn't afford it otherwise.
It's true that the phone is not ready for anybody but the nerdiest of the nerd crowd, but there's a difference between this and Duke Nukem Forever. I already have one, and it does work, the software just isn't that good yet. But I can see that it's a project that *already runs*. Because the software is free and open, it's not a mystery whether or not anything is really happening.
I've already made calls with my openmoko phone on T-Mobil. It might not be being enthusiastically embraced by the industry, but it does "work" (although the software is not very reliable yet.)
Hopefully at some point soon OpenMoko will become good enough for normal phone usage. Now there's a company that, from the very beginning, has wanted to play by our rules.
Want to get the linux community's support? Asus did it, even though I'm not entirely sure they realized it when they began doing so. By releasing a machine that's linux friendly and not locked down, you're sure to get a community surrounding you that will help even improve the usefulness of your product.
I was an Interdisciplinary Humanities major in college. I took a lot of non-computer related classes. And I was a hell of a lot more productive when I took notes using my laptop than otherwise.
Granted, I intentionally kept myself pretty restricted in the technology I used. The wireless drivers didn't work on my laptop, and I never got an external one just because I didn't want to be distracted. (I've since graduated, and now have one.) I also typed up all my notes in emacs fullscreened. I don't mean the "you can still see your panel" fullscreen, I mean the actual fullscreen, where it takes up the whole damn space.
As someone who has trouble either handwriting at a decent speed or even producing legible handwritten text, I finally was able to actually keep notes that I could use later. I also kept them, and all of my papers, under SVN. Even a year after graduating, I'm still able to return to the notes I wrote up, grep through them, and find interesting things that I only sorta remember. I can't do that with any of my paper notes. I don't even know where most of them are.
But I'm a highly distractable person, and I took specific steps to restrict myself in what I had access to. If I gave myself internet access, I probably would have been a lot less productive. My setup was also pretty nerdy, which might make it more inaccessible. But whatever, the point remains that my the courses I brought my laptop to are the courses I did best in, and the courses I still have the best data from to this day.
I realize it's anecdotal, but talking to a number of my friends who were ardent Clinton supporters I've become worried that they simply won't vote Democrat due to what they perceive was the unfairness and sexism of the campaign.
Okay. Yes. Sure. There certainly was a lot of sexism in these primaries. I'll buy that.
But there was also a lot of racism. Both candidates fought a lot of bigotry. I don't think it's fair to say that Obama's success came from him being a man, just as I don't think it's fair to say that Hillary's success came from being white. Maybe in any other election setting. Maybe even in the general election, where it will be a white man versus a black man. But not in these primaries.
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Yeah, it's the god damned internet. That doesn't mean that people don't have emotions on the internet.
I'm actually against marking this as a criminal offense, also for free speech reasons, but seriously. The very idea that she wasn't tormenting that girl is total BS. You can torment someone in person, you can torment them on the phone, you can torment them over IM or on IRC or whatever. The internet does not grant magical anti-emotion powers.
I'll jump on this grenade. There are a couple aspects that mitigate Apple's abusiveness. The first is that they are selectively abusive, with only particular aspects of their product offerings. For example, they are abusive with many of the products related to iTunes, including DRM'd digital content, and locked down iPods, iPhones and AppleTV. For the rest of their products, including Macs, Mac OS X, and the software they write, they are typically *more open* and *less controlling* than their direct competitors (Macs use standard parts you can swap as easily as those from competing OEMs, Mac OS X is largely built on open standards, and their software typically don't have any onerous activation or any outlandishly annoying copy protection.
Sorry, but that's BS. OSX is built on open standards, yes, but not because Apple worked to do it, but because they took BSD as a base. But they haven't actively tried to be open in any sense that I've ever seen. And their parts typically *have* been extremely locked down and incompatible with everything else. In fact, the majority of the apple fans I see on here seem to be calling this out as a feature all the time. ("Apple is more stable because they don't have to worry about any multiple combinations of technology! They only have a limited amount of hardware they have to support!")
Sorry, but the whole "Apple is mostly open... just not their DRM.. or their limited hardware... or the fact that they sue people who make operating-system-compatible hardware..." stuff is just complete and total bullshit.
ORLY?
Actually, this isn't really much of a turnaround. Microsoft has long played the "we love open source" (but hate GPL!) stance. The Apache foundation has long since been in the BSD-like license camp (there's very little actual difference between the apache license and BSD). Microsoft really doesn't mind being able to take code. It just doesn't like the idea of having to give back. This may be a way of trying to push the open source community to move toward the BSD-style licensing community... after all, Microsoft uses BSD code. OSX *definetly* uses BSD code. It's possible to totally be proprietary and be cool with BSD.
So what about the LGPL? The LGPL does require that if you make changes to the library, you have to give them back. So if you make changes to glib, you gotta give them back. But you can make any app link to glib, and be completely proprietary, and it doesn't have to be open source. In many ways, this isn't too much of a problem for Microsoft though, since they really aren't in the business of libraries, they're in the business of applications and operating systems. It's is a small advancement though.
It's this kind of situation which is why the FSF, which originally produced the LGPL, wrote an essay saying that it's not always strategically the best choice for free and open source software.
So... I guess this kind of mentality puzzles me. There are a lot of apple users out there, who, like you, acknowldge that they're being dicked around mostly even because you take interest.
To me it almost seems like an abusive relationship. You care about them, they beat you up, and you keep coming back. Why?
Note, I don't mean you, per se. But it seems pretty common in the Apple fanboy communities.
...then the future for computer users and developers is heading toward some pretty shitty seas.
No, actually... I'm about as anti-mac of a linux user can be. I just also recognize the frustrations I feel when I run Windows, and that feeling these frustrations do not make me a non-geek.
anyone who can't get Windows to run decently should be turning in their geek card already.
Really? Seriously?
Okay. I can get windows to run. Really, I can. That doesn't mean it isn't a fucking pain in the ass, a terrible user experience, and a waste of resources. Sorry, I have plenty of reasons to get headaches from windows. Not being geeky enough to handle it isn't one them.
Really, I just listen to HD streaming radio these days. Specifically, WCPE (classical music) and NPR Boston both publish in OGG Vorbis, which is great.
Oh yah, because they are so standarized in Windows. Let see if they all use the Windows toolkit and have the same UI for some common Windows Apps.
Let's be fair about number three, that's a problem with the gaming industry in general. Almost every game reinvents its own UI, on pretty much all platforms, anywhere. Yes, even on Linux.
He says in this article that GNOME was chosen for how easy to use it is. He's saying that the widget set doesn't dictate that, so the same thing could be done with QT, not that GNOME should be rewritten with QT.
Try watching them with Miro. Fullscreen functionality, saved to your computer in high definition, automatic downloads of the latest episodes, and yeah, fullscreen downloads. Search for TED in the Miro guide after installing and add the channel. Watching TED talks is one of the things that got me interested in Miro development :)
(The UI is nice but sometimes feels a little slow and clunky... that's being totaly overhauled for the next release.)
Back in the day, when I started using Linux, Mandrake (now Mandriva) was a great distribution that helped newbies like me hit the ground running. But now it seems like Ubuntu has gobbled up that market. Afaict, they don't have much of an "enterprise" market, and they don't have much of a "hacker" market... or am I wrong? What market is Mandriva serving these days?
I dunno, but let's throw a party! A Linux party!!!
(Yes, I'm as stunned and excited as you are.)
So, there's a chance here, in this brief window of opportunity, to drum up proper opposition to this bill. I'm sure I'm not the only one who felt deeply hurt by Obama not really opposing this bill. Perhaps now's a good chance to get him to show us that he's a candidate of change we can actually believe in?
Their homepage has some information on there asking people to protest the olympics.
Of course a piece of editing software can't itself consciously object to a global event. No software AI is that advanced, not even in a text editor.
... though it's my understanding that Emacs comes close.Oh yeah? And on that note, why not telecommute from India?
This helps bring blue collar jobs back home. That doesn't say anything about programming, or graphic design, or any of the jobs that most people who visit here probably have or want.
They're not limited to a single carrier, but Apple has gone above and beyond normal lockdowns with the iPhone. Limit to a single carrier? Not really new, though they did make themselves link up to AT&T, who has really been at the center of this. And cell phone OS'es have been pretty locked down in the past, and Apple had a chance to bring that in a different direction. They did the opposite, and brought monopolies to an entirely new level. To quote Steve Jobs:
Now we know that's bullshit that you can't have a network be able to just run any application users want on it. We have the internet. Directly deciding who can run an application and who can not on your platform is really pretty much creating a monopoly to the most extreme level possible.
And some people have told me, "That's less Apple's doing than AT&T's." But do you really want to support a company who's willing to bend over that far for the will of the telecoms? Come on, if you really believe in these things, vote with your money!
Unfortunately, Apple TV is still DRM-laden, and if the internet was to go the direction that Apple TV is, it's going to become a pretty awful place to be IMO.
Fortunately there's a project that looks like it's going to become the Firefox of internet tv... and it's called Miro. It's based on simple, common and open standards... RSS, bittorrent, and just plain old DRM-free codecs. It's not pretending to be something magical, and indeed, it shouldn't.
It's already pretty enjoyable to use, but I've been doing some volunteering on the project. Trust me, the next iteration is going to be really slick.
True, unlikely they'll meet the 10 million mark. But originally they were setting a goal of 5 million. Seeing as how it's well over 6 million when I'm writing this, I'd say they're doing a damn fine job.
Would be a super generous donation, but if you honestly don't have a practical idea, perhaps donate to your local Free Geek chapter? Good drives at that size could help in the fight for bringing technology to those who couldn't afford it otherwise.
It's true that the phone is not ready for anybody but the nerdiest of the nerd crowd, but there's a difference between this and Duke Nukem Forever. I already have one, and it does work, the software just isn't that good yet. But I can see that it's a project that *already runs*. Because the software is free and open, it's not a mystery whether or not anything is really happening.
I've already made calls with my openmoko phone on T-Mobil. It might not be being enthusiastically embraced by the industry, but it does "work" (although the software is not very reliable yet.)
Hopefully at some point soon OpenMoko will become good enough for normal phone usage. Now there's a company that, from the very beginning, has wanted to play by our rules.
Want to get the linux community's support? Asus did it, even though I'm not entirely sure they realized it when they began doing so. By releasing a machine that's linux friendly and not locked down, you're sure to get a community surrounding you that will help even improve the usefulness of your product.
I was an Interdisciplinary Humanities major in college. I took a lot of non-computer related classes. And I was a hell of a lot more productive when I took notes using my laptop than otherwise.
Granted, I intentionally kept myself pretty restricted in the technology I used. The wireless drivers didn't work on my laptop, and I never got an external one just because I didn't want to be distracted. (I've since graduated, and now have one.) I also typed up all my notes in emacs fullscreened. I don't mean the "you can still see your panel" fullscreen, I mean the actual fullscreen, where it takes up the whole damn space.
As someone who has trouble either handwriting at a decent speed or even producing legible handwritten text, I finally was able to actually keep notes that I could use later. I also kept them, and all of my papers, under SVN. Even a year after graduating, I'm still able to return to the notes I wrote up, grep through them, and find interesting things that I only sorta remember. I can't do that with any of my paper notes. I don't even know where most of them are.
But I'm a highly distractable person, and I took specific steps to restrict myself in what I had access to. If I gave myself internet access, I probably would have been a lot less productive. My setup was also pretty nerdy, which might make it more inaccessible. But whatever, the point remains that my the courses I brought my laptop to are the courses I did best in, and the courses I still have the best data from to this day.
Okay. Yes. Sure. There certainly was a lot of sexism in these primaries. I'll buy that.
But there was also a lot of racism. Both candidates fought a lot of bigotry. I don't think it's fair to say that Obama's success came from him being a man, just as I don't think it's fair to say that Hillary's success came from being white. Maybe in any other election setting. Maybe even in the general election, where it will be a white man versus a black man. But not in these primaries.