I believe that Bruce Eckel wrote Thinking in Java in a sort of middle-ground between 3D17 and your suggestion; that is he wrote it, posted it online, allowed anyone to comment on the text, and wound up incorporating many hundreds of corrections and suggestions into the final text. In a sense, it was something like 3D17, but he was the moderator of the suggestions/corrections that came in. He talks a bit about it here.
Also, I suppose a/. thread viewed at a threshold of 3 or 4 or higher would qualify as a collaborative commentary on whatever article is being discussed.
Of course, I realize that neither of these examples are exactly what 3D17 is suggesting, but they share elements.
Addictive or not, drug prohibition is a topic completely divorced from how good or bad the substances actually are for you; I'm not pro-drug or anything, but it doesn't take a neurobiologist to think that it's a little strange that cigarettes and alcohol are legal, but recreactional drugs are not.
Not to start on politics, because I'm not interested in debating the particulars of who and why, but I doubt that pharmacuetical innovation is going to change the way they write laws concerning these things.
All that to say, yes, I agree.
As well, I will be first in line for your self-washing clothes.
If you click on his nick and look at his page you find this text:
i play a pivotal role in a grand conspiracy to cripple the free software movement from within, by covertly embedding an unnecessary, yet seductively useful, patented technology in the very heart of the linux operating system's second most popular desktop environment.
This is Miguel de Icaza? I don't think so.
Look for miguel.
For some reason alien was not included in redhat 9. I'm not sure why. Now I'm using gentoo, though, and I'm very happy with it.
Probably for the average newbie who doesn't want to compile things from source (okay, I admit, typing `emerge -u world' doesn't really require you to understand what's going on), having.deb and.rpm work together would be a good thing.
apt for redhat is a good idea, too, and I believe that can be found at freshrpms.net.
That's great -- I do have Avant browser, Yet Another IE Extension (adds tabbed browsing, etc) on my PC at work, but I hardly ever use it. I don't like Netscape, really, either, I've been using Firebird quite happily since 0.5, I think. Firebird has none of the `extra' baggage of Netscape or Mozilla, and is quite fast.
Anyways, unless MYIE2 fixes IE's crappy CSS2 support, it still doesn't make the browser functional, IMHO.:-)
If they include Netscape 7 as the default browser, maybe Mom and Pop will get used to tabs (if they realize they exist), and actually realize how backward IE is becoming...
I'm sorry, but this post doesn't even make sense. If you don't care about the great things one can do with stylesheets, like being able to fix backgrounds across multiple elements (see this page in both ie and mozilla(or other gecko-based browser of your choice) for an example). So you think web developers should just not do that, because it doesn't work in ie. And somehow, because it doesn't work in ie, you blame web developers.
Pay more attention to good information design? That would be great. But that doesn't make it any less annoying when I finish making a webpage on my box at home, only to find out at work that all the stuff I did looks crappy in ie. Yeah, that's really going to turn me into a Microsoft-fan, because now I more-or-less have to redesign my site, or else just allow 90% of internet-users (okay, so 99% of the internet-users will NEVER visit my site, but whatever) to think that my site was designed by an infinite number of monkeys in my attic.
I'm trying to be reasonable here, if I said what I really thought, this would probably me modded flamebait. Yes, content should be more important than style; straight HTML will put more or less the same content on any browser. But if CSS is going to be supported at all, shouldn't web developers be able to expect the same behavior across multiple browsers, just like they did from HTML? Why should CSS or newer standards be different from HTML? If IE didn't support HTML properly, would you consider that broken or would web developers still just be whining about nothing?
I know of a 12 year old girl, at the junior high youth group in the church I attend, who apparently really dual-boots Windows and Linux. She has no older brothers so I can only presume she chose to attempt this all by herself.
If Linux ever came to the point where there was Only One True Distribution, it would cease to be what it is -- as long as it's open source any reasonably ambitious hacker can make his or her own distribution, if they really want to, even if all they do is run through `Linus From Scratch' and customize it lightly. The multidute of distros will NEVER change, and if it did, Linux would cease to be interesting to me, and a lot of other people.
Linux will never become as uniform in look and feel as windows, and it never should. Now, there may come a de facto standard -- Gnome or KDE, or perhaps the Ximian Desktop -- and that is fine. But people will, and should, always be able to run fvwm or whatever else they want.
Your search -- someone who cares what I think -- does not match any documents.
No one was found who cares what you think.
Suggestions:
-Post to discussions that are about something you're actually interested in.
-Don't read articles that you think are stupid, or don't belong.
-Make more `Soviet Russia' references, everybody loves that.
Why are there a few hundred perfectly serious,informative posts giving an answer to the question?
If you don't care about the topic, why read and post in the thread? I, for one, welcome our new MUD-fanatic overlords, and feel that all right thinking people should do the same.
Agreed. But no one's saying `X++' would make sense... just that it would be more in keeping with tradition. I think people have been making the ++C joke for years. And lets not even start on the C-- subset....
We had to arrange clusters of single-bead abacuses with gears, wires, and pulleys, into simple logic gates, and tip the first gear by hand to get it started. Then it took us days to decipher the results and figure out if our program worked correctly.
Major Oil companies encourage manufacturers not to develop cars which do not rely on fossil fuels, as this may prevent people from being able to participate in the global Oil business.
I know, Linux machines use intel processors, too. But unless I'm mistaken, intel and MS are pretty closely aligned. It doesn't seem like a very unbiased party, hence the analogy.
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Also, I suppose a /. thread viewed at a threshold of 3 or 4 or higher would qualify as a collaborative commentary on whatever article is being discussed.
Of course, I realize that neither of these examples are exactly what 3D17 is suggesting, but they share elements.
Not to start on politics, because I'm not interested in debating the particulars of who and why, but I doubt that pharmacuetical innovation is going to change the way they write laws concerning these things.
All that to say, yes, I agree.
As well, I will be first in line for your self-washing clothes.
This is Miguel de Icaza? I don't think so. Look for miguel.
Probably for the average newbie who doesn't want to compile things from source (okay, I admit, typing `emerge -u world' doesn't really require you to understand what's going on), having .deb and .rpm work together would be a good thing.
apt for redhat is a good idea, too, and I believe that can be found at freshrpms.net.
Anyways, unless MYIE2 fixes IE's crappy CSS2 support, it still doesn't make the browser functional, IMHO. :-)
If they include Netscape 7 as the default browser, maybe Mom and Pop will get used to tabs (if they realize they exist), and actually realize how backward IE is becoming...
Up until I recently killed (don't ask) my wife's computer, it still had Crystal Caves 1, 2, and 3 on it. Go Milo!
Pay more attention to good information design? That would be great. But that doesn't make it any less annoying when I finish making a webpage on my box at home, only to find out at work that all the stuff I did looks crappy in ie. Yeah, that's really going to turn me into a Microsoft-fan, because now I more-or-less have to redesign my site, or else just allow 90% of internet-users (okay, so 99% of the internet-users will NEVER visit my site, but whatever) to think that my site was designed by an infinite number of monkeys in my attic.
I'm trying to be reasonable here, if I said what I really thought, this would probably me modded flamebait. Yes, content should be more important than style; straight HTML will put more or less the same content on any browser. But if CSS is going to be supported at all, shouldn't web developers be able to expect the same behavior across multiple browsers, just like they did from HTML? Why should CSS or newer standards be different from HTML? If IE didn't support HTML properly, would you consider that broken or would web developers still just be whining about nothing?
Sheesh. Okay, rant over.
There is hope for the youth of America!
Wow, someone has way too many mod points.
Linux will never become as uniform in look and feel as windows, and it never should. Now, there may come a de facto standard -- Gnome or KDE, or perhaps the Ximian Desktop -- and that is fine. But people will, and should, always be able to run fvwm or whatever else they want.
Have fun.
I'm sorry, I'm sick of these jokes too, but this was funny. It's a recursive soviet russia joke. What's not to like?
Your search -- someone who cares what I think -- does not match any documents.
No one was found who cares what you think.
Suggestions:
If you don't care about the topic, why read and post in the thread? I, for one, welcome our new MUD-fanatic overlords, and feel that all right thinking people should do the same.
But it was just a joke -- it was only a joke. I didn't see any `insightful' mods on it, thank God...
Agreed. But no one's saying `X++' would make sense... just that it would be more in keeping with tradition. I think people have been making the ++C joke for years. And lets not even start on the C-- subset....
...wouldn't it be more in keeping with tradition to call it X++?
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You mean Rowan Atkinson?
The parent was joking. YHBT. YHL. HAND.
BTW, I use Linux; IANAT.
We had to arrange clusters of single-bead abacuses with gears, wires, and pulleys, into simple logic gates, and tip the first gear by hand to get it started. Then it took us days to decipher the results and figure out if our program worked correctly.
Ah, but we had it rough...
...you insensitive clod!
I know, Linux machines use intel processors, too. But unless I'm mistaken, intel and MS are pretty closely aligned. It doesn't seem like a very unbiased party, hence the analogy.
Yuo inesnsivite cold!