Of course one can like both. If somebody can like both B5 and Star Trek, anything is possible;-)
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From the Kevin Bedell article:
This new business model is based on companies and individuals increasing productivity and reducing costs by collaborating on 'shared'
IP that no one owns and is free.
Well, not quite. The IP is still owned by the contributor. It's just irrevocably licensed through the GNU Public License or another "free" license. "Open Source" is not in the public domain, but for practical purposes it is not owned. You will only get in trouble if you publish your derivative work without abiding by the license terms.
Your post is so clueless, why did you even read this story, much less comment on it? Reading the story and the article? I seem to have broken the Zen Slashdot rule of only reading the headline before posting. Yes, I read it. If "Ack! Thpppt!" is the sound of a hairball, I think the poster meant something like: "This is going to be a regurgitation of Bloom County and Outland." I don't doubt Berkeley Breathed's ability to come up with new ideas, that was not my point. My point was: "Ack! Please, no more beat-me-silly-over-the-head-with-a-lead-pipe political points from the 'Opus' guy!" "Prick" was a bad word to use. Other than that, I don't see any lost clues laying around. Could someone please provide it?
Remember, you should not leave loose wires hanging from the power supply (PSU). You know, those red, yellow and black wires hanging from the box in the back of the case. If there are wires not connected somewhere inside, it means that those people who put together your computer short-changed you or the computer store. Your computer is not getting all the power it needs, and may be going slower than it could have. Also if those wires re left hanging, there's are risk they could short out your computer and electrocute you. There ought to be some metal pins sticking up from the big green "motherboard". Attach all those wires to those pins. It doesn't matter if they don't fit exactly, the main issue here is to avoid wires swinging around in the case and damaging something. If the wire doesn't reach the motherboard, you can also connect it to pins on a harddrive, CD-ROM drive or DVD-drive. Remember to turn the computer off and unplug the computer and monitor from the wall socket before doing this. After you're done, plug it back in, switch it on, and you can be satisfied that your computer is in ship shape.
You seem to be ignorant of the difference between midichlorians and metachlorians. Methachlorians doesn't have anything to do with the Force, but rather the metabolism.:-)
I don't know about you people, but after being locked in the office with Microsoft for four days, I would try to escape as well. The garbage can used as a toilet must be full by now, and the air is pretty bad. At least they have water left in the water cooler, and Bill still has power left in the cell phone to call for pizzas.
The NFIC accepts reports about attempts to defraud consumers on the telephone or the Internet.
If the invoice/treath came by mail (in the United States), contact U. S. Postal Inspection Service instead. They are more likely to investigate if more people comlain.
Assignment: Even before the invoice goes out, national media, especially financial media read by the "pointy haired bosses", should print a "fraud warning" against this invoice. It should be factual, and state that legal proceedings are pending. All SCO could have done about this was to sue for libel but that case would be even weaker, and also easier to understand for judges and the general public.
Perhaps someone with some mail-blasting software could send a few million e-mail messages, telling people how great it would be to join this website. You just suggested spamming to combat spam. Bad idea!
Unless, of course, that your whole business is the warehousing and distribution of RFID tags. No, not if you have to RFID tag your RFID tags.
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the laughable assertion that North Korea have access to the new protocol with QoS rather than the basic RFC1149 transport layer.
Read my comment again before claiming it is wrong. The protocol with QoS is only for communication across the Demarcatition Line. Inside North Korea itself, the connection relies on the country's antiquated telephone system. In some rural areas, the students are complaining about the hassle of carrying their computer to the only phone in the village, in the middle of the night, to be available in Zone Mail Hour (ZMH). If they don't, they will be thrown out as nodes.
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Nice to see that the 'Other Nations' are outside the US. And I'm glad its South (not North) Korea at No. 4, considering that Nuclear Engineering is at No. 7!
Those figures are a bit misleading. The North Koreans are taking the course through a FidoNET gateway in South Korea. The link across the border is by an RFC2549 connection.
When will the U.S. learn, and stop educating its enemies?
Really? There is? The world is not as crazy as I thought. In the "McLibel" case (a British case), I thought it was ludricrous to see how "London Greenpeace", not affiliated with Greenpeace(TM), were allowed to spread lies untill all the appeals were trough.
Managing the response of the free and open source software communities would be like herding cats.
Londo:"Now out of that 50, how many gods do you think I must have offended to have ended up with G'Kar's teeth buried so deeply in my throat that I can barely breathe?" Vir:"All of them?" Londo:"Sounds right. And now I have to go back to the Council and explain to them that in the interest of peace the Centauri government will agree to give quadrant 37 to the Narns. I think I will stick my head in the station's fusion reactor. It would be quicker. And I suspect, after a while I might even come to enjoy it. But this; this, this, this is like being nibbled to death by; what are those Earth creatures called? Feathers, long bill, webbed feet, go 'quack'?" Vir:"Cats." Londo:"Cats. I'm being nibbled to death by cats."
Babylon 5:"Chrysalis"
In this case, Darl McBride is Londo. Londo on too much Brivari. And crack. Lots of crack.
I don't think we can agree on this point, but maybe we can agree that the definition of Democracy while today includes the forms of government you say, did not previously and originally mean a representative elected government.
I can neither agree nor disagree with that without studying this some more. Is it a case of the meaning of a word being changed, something I don't want to contribute to; or is it a case of different implementations of the concept of democracy, majority rule?
As an example of changing of the meaning of a word, consider the word "gay". It no longer means "happy", does it? That makes for misunderstandings, particularly when reading old texts, and represents some sort of abuse of the language.
As an example of a different implementation, consider the word "discussion". We are having a discussion, but when the word "discussion" was first used, nobody had any experience of the Internet. The essence of meaning remains though.
I think this is largely because of politcal marketing by the parties that control government, but this watering down of the definition could have occured through less insidious circumstance.
I think it is because "democracies" is the only name I can think of to describe a collection of countries ruled by the majority. It might consist of republics, countries with parliamentary systems, or direct democracies, all ruled by the people in different ways.
I think if people voted on laws directly they would tend to be simple, understandable and by definition would have broad public support.
I guess they would. I used to say that government could either be fair or expedient. The simple solutions championed by "populist" politicians tend to be simple, but unfair in my view. But of course, in many cases the simple solutions are also the fairest. For those laws that have to be complex, the representatives of today could rather inform the public and try to convince people of what the best choice was. Then people could choose wether to take the advise when they vote.
Far too often I see laws proposed that have broad public support in summary(like the current calling cry of lets make things safer), but then the specific laws are enacted without much public notice and the specific law or regulation has onerous and harmful consequences.
Me too. People should pay more attention to what their representatives are doing. One problem with direct voting would be people voting only for laws in which they have a special interest. Let's say a massive tax cut is enacted. Later, a large MediCare program is voted for by a majority of the voters, while those cheap bastards who annulled taxes didn't vote this time. The votes are incompatible. Perhaps people had to vote for all laws in a year, or their previous votes would be annulled?
" 3. Having a permanent legislature helps keep the rest of the government in check."
No more than direct Democracy would, perhaps less. Couldn't the executive and judicial parts of government be cowed by a legislative branch that was the people.
Well, they could. Provided that the advances of communication technology are taken advantage of, and we have people who literally pay attention. That could be the press, special interests, etc. Also the executive and judicial should keep the people informed of how they are applying the will of the people.
I agree with your thoughts on the judicial and executive.
As to your point about democracy not inlcuding all the people, sure it did. It included all those that it considers citizens. True. True. My point was that there had to be ROOM for all citizens. Again, technology can help us.
Oh and I also disagree vehamently that "mentally insane" and "convicts" should be deprived of a vote. It is far too easy to call someone crazy or to throw them in jail when they have persepective and views that are not your own.
When the elections were moved from the town square to ballot boxes, and the women were allowed to vote; was that more democracy, or less? I should point out that they still vote for individual laws at the ballot box.
I believe "Representative Democracy" is an oxymoron. Democracy does exist in the US in the form of local town meetings, during which all people vote on the laws and spending of the town within the rules that have been agreed upon and can be changed by the people.
As long as there's no legal impediment for anybody (except children, convicts and the mentally insane) to run as candidates, I don't see an oxymoron.
So, sure we have democracy... If when I vote for my congressman and there is no one else on the ballot, that is democracy. Or when I vote for my state legislator and I have one choice, that is democracy?
That is what they would call democracy in Soviet Russia, or in Saddam Hussein's Iraq. But if the lack of candidates is due to lack of interest, then perhaps people wouldn't care about showing up to vote for the laws either?
The reason we have legislative representatives, instead of direct democracy is because
It would take too much time to keep up with the cases. It is a full time job.
All people from far reaches of the country can't travel to the capitol.
Having a permanent legislature helps keep the rest of the government in check.
Communication technology has come a long way since the colonial days, so reason 2 could be solved today. What about setting up a "senate", where people can go to their local tow hall and be in contact with town halls from all over the country? They could then vote over new laws over the Internet.
When it comes to the executive branch, we almost have to have a representative system. The executive representative would be the highest "boss" of the various departments.
But when I go to my town hall and vote on each of the laws that will effect me, what is that? Direct democracy. The problem is, that direct democracy rarely involve all the people. In ancient Rome, free male citizens were able to participate, but not the slaves or the women. In a canton in Switzerland, up untill last year, elections took place by raising hands in the town square. There wasn't room for the women. When the elections were moved from the town square to ballot boxes, and the women were allowed to vote; was that more democracy, or less?
Democratic Republic is how I would describe the form of government in the US. The Federal System is Democratic in that people vote for something, but it is not a Democracy.
This is what baffles me. I believe a Democratic Republic is both a Republic and a Democracy. If the power is "vested" in the people, then it's a Democracy. In the U.S. there is no monarch and people sharing power. All power comes from the people.
Is there some kind of bad history about the word "Democracy" in the U.S?
"A total democracy, where two wolwes and a sheep votes on what to have for dinner, is bad, because everybody belongs to some kind of minority."
Don't you think that what to have for dinner should be a personal choice?
The wolves vote to eat the sheep for dinner. The point I was making, is that the "Republic" is a constitutional democracy. The wolf example describes a total democracy, where all matters were voted on online. Including a vote to kill people the majority doesn't like. What I would call the tyrany of the majority.
As you say, the U.S. and other constitutional democracies have checks and balances to counter-act such abuses from the majority.
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Thanks for clearing things up.
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Of course one can like both. If somebody can like both B5 and Star Trek, anything is possible
Well, not quite. The IP is still owned by the contributor. It's just irrevocably licensed through the GNU Public License or another "free" license.
"Open Source" is not in the public domain, but for practical purposes it is not owned. You will only get in trouble if you publish your derivative work without abiding by the license terms.
Your post is so clueless, why did you even read this story, much less comment on it?
Reading the story and the article? I seem to have broken the Zen Slashdot rule of only reading the headline before posting. Yes, I read it.
If "Ack! Thpppt!" is the sound of a hairball, I think the poster meant something like: "This is going to be a regurgitation of Bloom County and Outland."
I don't doubt Berkeley Breathed's ability to come up with new ideas, that was not my point.
My point was: "Ack! Please, no more beat-me-silly-over-the-head-with-a-lead-pipe political points from the 'Opus' guy!"
"Prick" was a bad word to use. Other than that, I don't see any lost clues laying around. Could someone please provide it?
I think I speak for all of Berkeley's loyal fans when I say:
Ack! Thpppt!
I don't really know what that means, but I think people who think he's a prick would agree.
Remember, you should not leave loose wires hanging from the power supply (PSU). You know, those red, yellow and black wires hanging from the box in the back of the case.
If there are wires not connected somewhere inside, it means that those people who put together your computer short-changed you or the computer store. Your computer is not getting all the power it needs, and may be going slower than it could have.
Also if those wires re left hanging, there's are risk they could short out your computer and electrocute you.
There ought to be some metal pins sticking up from the big green "motherboard". Attach all those wires to those pins. It doesn't matter if they don't fit exactly, the main issue here is to avoid wires swinging around in the case and damaging something.
If the wire doesn't reach the motherboard, you can also connect it to pins on a harddrive, CD-ROM drive or DVD-drive.
Remember to turn the computer off and unplug the computer and monitor from the wall socket before doing this.
After you're done, plug it back in, switch it on, and you can be satisfied that your computer is in ship shape.
(No, don't do it.)
You seem to be ignorant of the difference between midichlorians and metachlorians. :-)
Methachlorians doesn't have anything to do with the Force, but rather the metabolism.
I don't know about you people, but after being locked in the office with Microsoft for four days, I would try to escape as well. The garbage can used as a toilet must be full by now, and the air is pretty bad.
At least they have water left in the water cooler, and Bill still has power left in the cell phone to call for pizzas.
I think he was just put in there just now.
Neither Google, nor the Wayback Machine can find that site.
No, no, no! He's not a devout Mormon. Mormons are hard-working Americans/People too.
He's a devout Moron!
From the National Fraud Information Center:
If the invoice/treath came by mail (in the United States), contact U. S. Postal Inspection Service instead. They are more likely to investigate if more people comlain.
Assignment:
Even before the invoice goes out, national media, especially financial media read by the "pointy haired bosses", should print a "fraud warning" against this invoice. It should be factual, and state that legal proceedings are pending.
All SCO could have done about this was to sue for libel but that case would be even weaker, and also easier to understand for judges and the general public.
Perhaps someone with some mail-blasting software could send a few million e-mail messages, telling people how great it would be to join this website.
You just suggested spamming to combat spam. Bad idea!
10 languages. Is that right?
Unless, of course, that your whole business is the warehousing and distribution of RFID tags.
No, not if you have to RFID tag your RFID tags.
the laughable assertion that North Korea have access to the new protocol with QoS rather than the basic RFC1149 transport layer.
Read my comment again before claiming it is wrong. The protocol with QoS is only for communication across the Demarcatition Line.
Inside North Korea itself, the connection relies on the country's antiquated telephone system.
In some rural areas, the students are complaining about the hassle of carrying their computer to the only phone in the village, in the middle of the night, to be available in Zone Mail Hour (ZMH). If they don't, they will be thrown out as nodes.
Nice to see that the 'Other Nations' are outside the US. And I'm glad its South (not North) Korea at No. 4, considering that Nuclear Engineering is at No. 7!
Those figures are a bit misleading. The North Koreans are taking the course through a FidoNET gateway in South Korea. The link across the border is by an RFC2549 connection.
When will the U.S. learn, and stop educating its enemies?
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I guess the NRK is trying to "ease in" new ways of earning money in case the license system ends.
But I won't pay either.
Really? There is? The world is not as crazy as I thought. In the "McLibel" case (a British case), I thought it was ludricrous to see how "London Greenpeace", not affiliated with Greenpeace(TM), were allowed to spread lies untill all the appeals were trough.
Managing the response of the free and open source software communities would be like herding cats.
Londo:"Now out of that 50, how many gods do you think I must have offended to have ended up with G'Kar's teeth buried so deeply in my throat that I can barely breathe?"
Vir:"All of them?"
Londo:"Sounds right. And now I have to go back to the Council and explain to them that in the interest of peace the Centauri government will agree to give quadrant 37 to the Narns. I think I will stick my head in the station's fusion reactor. It would be quicker. And I suspect, after a while I might even come to enjoy it. But this; this, this, this is like being nibbled to death by; what are those Earth creatures called? Feathers, long bill, webbed feet, go 'quack'?"
Vir:"Cats."
Londo:"Cats. I'm being nibbled to death by cats."
Babylon 5:"Chrysalis"
In this case, Darl McBride is Londo. Londo on too much Brivari. And crack. Lots of crack.
Good luck trying to get injunctive relief against speech.
I don't think we can agree on this point, but maybe we can agree that the definition of Democracy while today includes the forms of government you say, did not previously and originally mean a representative elected government.
I can neither agree nor disagree with that without studying this some more.
Is it a case of the meaning of a word being changed, something I don't want to contribute to; or is it a case of different implementations of the concept of democracy, majority rule?
As an example of changing of the meaning of a word, consider the word "gay". It no longer means "happy", does it? That makes for misunderstandings, particularly when reading old texts, and represents some sort of abuse of the language.
As an example of a different implementation, consider the word "discussion". We are having a discussion, but when the word "discussion" was first used, nobody had any experience of the Internet. The essence of meaning remains though.
I think this is largely because of politcal marketing by the parties that control government, but this watering down of the definition could have occured through less insidious circumstance.
I think it is because "democracies" is the only name I can think of to describe a collection of countries ruled by the majority. It might consist of republics, countries with parliamentary systems, or direct democracies, all ruled by the people in different ways.
I think if people voted on laws directly they would tend to be simple, understandable and by definition would have broad public support.
I guess they would. I used to say that government could either be fair or expedient. The simple solutions championed by "populist" politicians tend to be simple, but unfair in my view. But of course, in many cases the simple solutions are also the fairest.
For those laws that have to be complex, the representatives of today could rather inform the public and try to convince people of what the best choice was. Then people could choose wether to take the advise when they vote.
Far too often I see laws proposed that have broad public support in summary(like the current calling cry of lets make things safer), but then the specific laws are enacted without much public notice and the specific law or regulation has onerous and harmful consequences.
Me too. People should pay more attention to what their representatives are doing.
One problem with direct voting would be people voting only for laws in which they have a special interest. Let's say a massive tax cut is enacted. Later, a large MediCare program is voted for by a majority of the voters, while those cheap bastards who annulled taxes didn't vote this time. The votes are incompatible.
Perhaps people had to vote for all laws in a year, or their previous votes would be annulled?
" 3. Having a permanent legislature helps keep the rest of the government in check."
No more than direct Democracy would, perhaps less. Couldn't the executive and judicial parts of government be cowed by a legislative branch that was the people.
Well, they could. Provided that the advances of communication technology are taken advantage of, and we have people who literally pay attention. That could be the press, special interests, etc. Also the executive and judicial should keep the people informed of how they are applying the will of the people.
I agree with your thoughts on the judicial and executive.
As to your point about democracy not inlcuding all the people, sure it did. It included all those that it considers citizens.
True. True. My point was that there had to be ROOM for all citizens. Again, technology can help us.
Oh and I also disagree vehamently that "mentally insane" and "convicts" should be deprived of a vote. It is far too easy to call someone crazy or to throw them in jail when they have persepective and views that are not your own.
I was referring to the h
When the elections were moved from the town square to ballot boxes, and the women were allowed to vote; was that more democracy, or less?
I should point out that they still vote for individual laws at the ballot box.
As long as there's no legal impediment for anybody (except children, convicts and the mentally insane) to run as candidates, I don't see an oxymoron.
So, sure we have democracy... If when I vote for my congressman and there is no one else on the ballot, that is democracy. Or when I vote for my state legislator and I have one choice, that is democracy?
That is what they would call democracy in Soviet Russia, or in Saddam Hussein's Iraq. But if the lack of candidates is due to lack of interest, then perhaps people wouldn't care about showing up to vote for the laws either?
The reason we have legislative representatives, instead of direct democracy is because
Communication technology has come a long way since the colonial days, so reason 2 could be solved today. What about setting up a "senate", where people can go to their local tow hall and be in contact with town halls from all over the country? They could then vote over new laws over the Internet.
When it comes to the executive branch, we almost have to have a representative system. The executive representative would be the highest "boss" of the various departments.
But when I go to my town hall and vote on each of the laws that will effect me, what is that?
Direct democracy. The problem is, that direct democracy rarely involve all the people. In ancient Rome, free male citizens were able to participate, but not the slaves or the women.
In a canton in Switzerland, up untill last year, elections took place by raising hands in the town square. There wasn't room for the women. When the elections were moved from the town square to ballot boxes, and the women were allowed to vote; was that more democracy, or less?
I totally agree with your first paragraph.
Democratic Republic is how I would describe the form of government in the US. The Federal System is Democratic in that people vote for something, but it is not a Democracy.
This is what baffles me. I believe a Democratic Republic is both a Republic and a Democracy.
If the power is "vested" in the people, then it's a Democracy. In the U.S. there is no monarch and people sharing power. All power comes from the people.
Is there some kind of bad history about the word "Democracy" in the U.S?
"A total democracy, where two wolwes and a sheep votes on what to have for dinner, is bad, because everybody belongs to some kind of minority."
Don't you think that what to have for dinner should be a personal choice?
The wolves vote to eat the sheep for dinner. The point I was making, is that the "Republic" is a constitutional democracy.
The wolf example describes a total democracy, where all matters were voted on online. Including a vote to kill people the majority doesn't like. What I would call the tyrany of the majority.
As you say, the U.S. and other constitutional democracies have checks and balances to counter-act such abuses from the majority.