lmao...damn, I had one mod point left to mod you down and someone beat me to it...hey, ya reckon you work for microsoft??? oh man, this is the funniest thing I've ever read...do you really think that a bit of FUD like above is going to make everyone suddenly go.."oh yeah, he's right...better stop using linux"...dude, give us a little more credit than that!
agreed...online would be more profitable...but labels don't seem to be running to fast towards that idea...you and I know the economic insentives for online music distribution...but for now (because it's only in the trial stages really) I've left it out of the debate and was commenting more on the effects of pirate downloads on the marketing strategies of labels...I mean, whether they put 2 and 2 together and figure out that sales are declining due to downloads...if sales in one area are declining...they will focus more towards the profitable areas of the business...do you see my point now...after taking online music sales out of the equation?
wha tha? you totally lost me there...no idea the point you're trying to make...wasn't going for fp...and the point was that they are planning to stop charging for packaging...on a product that has no packaging...hence wheels (I'm so over that other word) on a yacht is an appropriate analogy I think
he he he...I wonder if anyone lives at that Staten Island address....or funnier yet...if the guy living at 40 Winham St got the email....[leaning out window]..."Hey...Fred...did you take my F$%#in credit card!"...lmao...news @ 4...brawl errupts in Winham St Staten Island.
ok...normal disclaimers apply here...I don't like stereotypes anymore than the next guy...but hey, they're a fact of life. You can, statistically, boil down a socio economic group to fit certain "patterns" and "trends"...like I said, not good, but usually true...so that's my disclaimer done...now onto my point
I have heard a lot of people talking about how RIAA will shoot themselves in the foot because the economies are changing...ie, people will just not pay $20 for something they can download for $2 (taking into account time costs etc)...and I'm thinking to myself...ok...so what really will happen
Ponder the following...and flame me if you think I'm off my rocker
1) To download songs...you need internet access, possibly an mp3 player to play them back...relatively technological savy...and the willingness to spend the time on the computer to get them...this to me, says middle to high socio economic (see above disclaimer before flaming)
2) Combine this with the fact that lower socio economic groups tend to spend more on entertainment (can't back up with specific figures right now...but I think it's a fair statement, and will be backed up by most retailers)
3) Labels will spend more money promoting artists and genres that give them the greatest returns...that's just common business sense
4)If your album doesn't get promoted by a label, at the moment anyway, you don't make it big as an artist...and your music dissapears apart from a few that 'discovered' you, and play you to their friends at parties
5)If I asked someone at a record company...I'm sure they could tell me exactly what kind of music each different socio economic category listens to (statistically speaking), and indeed, could probably break it down further to gender, race etc...I would also go further, and say that these different categories would have very dissimilar tastes in music....so, here's my thoughts (I'm sure a lot of you can already see where this is going)...
We download music...statistically, all within a few different genres....those genres stop being profitable...those genres stop getting promoted...those genres dissapear and get replaced with different kind of music...that appeals to groups that buy cds.....we bitch about how there's no good music anymore.
so...a question...through free market forces, and economics...are we really just shooting ourselves in the foot (over the long term), by downloading music we like???
(Humorous side note...maybe we should all go download some rap music today...consider it a national service)
1984....by George Orwell....if you haven't read it...I suggest you do so...if you have read it...read it again....read it, look at your society...then be afraid....very afraid.
Correct me if I'm wrong...but isn't integrating IE into windows exactly what they got in trouble for all those many years ago?? Wasn't there some kind of _legal_ decision stopping them from doing that? Wow...if that's what laws are like in the U.S. I'm comin over and buyin a gun. "Yes I robbed that bank officer...but it was 2 years ago...and no one really remembers, so it doesn't count...think I'll go rob one again"
Re:DVT? Just increase the fucking legroom.
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Actually...you guys have it _really_ bad in the U.S. I have flown internationally quite a bit...and usually I go QANTUS or Air NewZealand or something like that. The economy class of those two is actually pretty good...two seats on either side, three in the middle...it's not as good a business class, but it's quite comfortable...even on a 13 hr flight. However, a couple of years ago I had the misfortune of flying United Airways...I flew first in Business, then economy on the way back (they only had one business seat left and I was travelling with the CEO of the company...hmmmmm, wonder who got it?;) )...Business class was about as comfortable as QANTAS/Air NZ economy...except you got a little tv (yeah, thanks for that...I can watch seinfeld while I'm writhing in agony)...and economy class...I couldn't believe it...I fully did a double take when I walked in...it was like 10 seats across or something..people were nearly sitting on top of each other, and there was absolutely no room in the isles. Luck I was sitting up the back, in the only 2 seat section, next to a particularly beautiful canadian woman which made the flight 'semi' bearable. If that is what you guys consider good (note your above comment on united)...then you guys really have to fly different airlines. I will _never_ fly united again. And the stewardess was a b*tch...like I was sub human because I was in economy. United is the only U.S. airline I have flown...perhaps someone would like to comment...are the U.S. airlines like this?
read this and think the first few questions were _extremely_ scripted. "oh, Mr RIAA, I think I should be able to pirate as much music as I want...can you please tell me why that's wrong?". Next thing you know, they'll have elmo running their campaigns..."Elmo is sorry mr RIAA, elmo didn't know that p2p networks were bad...elmo will never ever share music again".
Have heard of this happening lots...especially during dot-bomb when companies were taking advantage (like you said, long hours etc to help cut costs)...you have to have the cash to start something yourself (which takes a lot of work and $$) because no other company will touch you as a group (especially if it's a small programming community like some of them out there)...the one thing that goes through the heads of prospective employers it that if they take on the group, then they'll have no control over them...nothing to stop them walking out again. And if you're the ringleader, or one of them...no one will touch you...no one wants to hire a developer that has the power to pull and entire department away from the company...watch out...could be a long time in an unemployement queue if you get a bad rep from this.
Free markets must maintain growth...if they don't, the whole thing goes to sh*t...don't blame the companies, _they_ didn't invent the free market system, they're just a product of it...nor did they create the american social experience...that was created by apathetic americans letting their rights be taken bit by bit. Every day sacrificing a little more freedom for an extra 2% per annum on their savings.
The companies didn't take your rights, the companies didn't betray you...if anything, the companies followed _your_ ("your" being the collective american masses) orders...you said you wanted growth, or you wouldn't invest in the company...you said you wanted growth at all costs to protect your 401k, you said you wanted to make money off their stock and get a good dividend...in fact, in the five years prior to 2001, how many of you (american citizens) asked companies to be loyal, patriotic, just and fair...not many...I was in america 97-99...it was insane...everyone you spoke to was going to be a millionaire from their investments...and I have been told that general view was common many years before '97. But now the bubble has burst, you all of the sudden want your soul back...to bad, you sold it years ago.
American citizens have built a system where their corporations are forced to sell anything they can, to any country that will buy, because if they don't...you'll dump their stock...and that's a lot worse than reading some obscure geek web post bitching about how unpatriotic they are...patriotism doesn't pay the 401k.
Actually...if you really wanted to make some cash...you'd run a butterfly spread on it...that way you would catch the hyped upswing when the courtcase began...and catch the crash when they lose;)...plus, because it's optioned based...the barrier to entry is like 10% of the stock ownership barrier...but given current volatility, you'd probably be have to overpay a little for the options...just my 2c
ok...I'll feed....w.r.t gutless...my god, could I have made it anymore obvious...be used to _install_ your product _anywhere_...hands up everyone that didn't understand that?!
I worked for a company where a software company (I won't name, but lets just say it bundles installer software that can apparently be used to install your product anywhere;) ) did this to us. They disabled our liscence...saying we only had a one machine liscence to use the product, and the install builder software had called back to the company supplying two different IP addresses...and thus, had been registered on two different computers.
I found this kind of suspect, because I knew for _sure_ it was only on our build system and that the originals were under lock and key and couldn't have been taken home...so I asked our build engineer to ring them back and ask what the two IP addresses were, so that we could isolate where it had been installed. The first address we were given was the address of the build machine...the second address...you guessed it...127.0.0.1.
We then had to explain to the guy that was handling our compaint why this didn't constitute a licence breach. Now, the serious side...you really want to give someone like this the power to pull the plug on your development system and kill your builds for however many days it takes to get through to someone with a brain? (by the way...the build box was linux...so you're not safe just by staying off windoze)
if you ask a professional programmer. I am one, I know.
Excuse me while I fall down at your feet and beg for your wisdom.
I'd think twice about begging the wisdom of a 'professional' programmer...IMHO, 'professional' in this industry means I wasn't good enough to make it on the strength of my code, so I moved into sales, marketing or management (sorry to the sales/marketing/management ppl out there:) )...again, IMHO, the best coders are damn unprofessional...they turn up late...they keep odd hours...the don't cut their hair...the wear cargos to work etc etc.
I tend to humor 'professional programmers' until I can find a replacement...but listen intently to every word that the cargo wearing slacker in the corner has to say:)
if you ask a professional programmer. I am one, I know
Dude, a lot of the ppl that read/. _are_ professional programmers.
If you don't _like_ GPL code...don't _use_ GPL code. I get really sick of programmers saying how restrictive GPL is, and how it shouldn't be allowed etc etc...a professional programmer just like you created the code that's under GPL and he or she _chose_ to release it that way...that's their right...so there's really nothing you can do about it but abide, or rewrite it. I find it so arrogant that people will take a component that is handed to them for free and get upset because they can't repackage it or wrap it, and on sell it. Bottom line...you have _no_ right to influence the liscensing, or even comment on the liscencing chosen by another programmer for his work unless you're his boss and are paying him for that work.
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lmao...damn, I had one mod point left to mod you down and someone beat me to it...hey, ya reckon you work for microsoft??? oh man, this is the funniest thing I've ever read...do you really think that a bit of FUD like above is going to make everyone suddenly go.."oh yeah, he's right...better stop using linux"...dude, give us a little more credit than that!
agreed...online would be more profitable...but labels don't seem to be running to fast towards that idea...you and I know the economic insentives for online music distribution...but for now (because it's only in the trial stages really) I've left it out of the debate and was commenting more on the effects of pirate downloads on the marketing strategies of labels...I mean, whether they put 2 and 2 together and figure out that sales are declining due to downloads...if sales in one area are declining...they will focus more towards the profitable areas of the business...do you see my point now...after taking online music sales out of the equation?
wow...you guys can get bag for 10c...that's fantastic! Gimme a green (yes, irony) card application right now!
wha tha? you totally lost me there...no idea the point you're trying to make...wasn't going for fp...and the point was that they are planning to stop charging for packaging...on a product that has no packaging...hence wheels (I'm so over that other word) on a yacht is an appropriate analogy I think
the former
he he he...I wonder if anyone lives at that Staten Island address....or funnier yet...if the guy living at 40 Winham St got the email....[leaning out window]..."Hey...Fred...did you take my F$%#in credit card!"...lmao...news @ 4...brawl errupts in Winham St Staten Island.
doh...typo...."tired" = "tyres"
asked for translation...not definition...would have been more applicable to use a regular expression I think...but well done all the same
care to translate dime and nickel for the rest of the world?
ok...normal disclaimers apply here...I don't like stereotypes anymore than the next guy...but hey, they're a fact of life. You can, statistically, boil down a socio economic group to fit certain "patterns" and "trends"...like I said, not good, but usually true...so that's my disclaimer done...now onto my point
I have heard a lot of people talking about how RIAA will shoot themselves in the foot because the economies are changing...ie, people will just not pay $20 for something they can download for $2 (taking into account time costs etc)...and I'm thinking to myself...ok...so what really will happen
Ponder the following...and flame me if you think I'm off my rocker
1) To download songs...you need internet access, possibly an mp3 player to play them back...relatively technological savy...and the willingness to spend the time on the computer to get them...this to me, says middle to high socio economic (see above disclaimer before flaming)
2) Combine this with the fact that lower socio economic groups tend to spend more on entertainment (can't back up with specific figures right now...but I think it's a fair statement, and will be backed up by most retailers)
3) Labels will spend more money promoting artists and genres that give them the greatest returns...that's just common business sense
4)If your album doesn't get promoted by a label, at the moment anyway, you don't make it big as an artist...and your music dissapears apart from a few that 'discovered' you, and play you to their friends at parties
5)If I asked someone at a record company...I'm sure they could tell me exactly what kind of music each different socio economic category listens to (statistically speaking), and indeed, could probably break it down further to gender, race etc...I would also go further, and say that these different categories would have very dissimilar tastes in music....so, here's my thoughts (I'm sure a lot of you can already see where this is going)...
We download music...statistically, all within a few different genres....those genres stop being profitable...those genres stop getting promoted...those genres dissapear and get replaced with different kind of music...that appeals to groups that buy cds.....we bitch about how there's no good music anymore.
so...a question...through free market forces, and economics...are we really just shooting ourselves in the foot (over the long term), by downloading music we like???
(Humorous side note...maybe we should all go download some rap music today...consider it a national service)
BMG, Universal, and Warner have announced plans to do away with such deductions for digital downloads.
awwwww, that's so thoughtful of them...kinda like a yacht salesman saying to you..."and just for you, I won't charge you for the tired"....wha tha?
1984....by George Orwell....if you haven't read it...I suggest you do so...if you have read it...read it again....read it, look at your society...then be afraid....very afraid.
represents years of IBM innovation, hundreds of millions of dollars of investment and many patents
uh oh....watch out SCO...they've opened their patent library...you're fscked
Correct me if I'm wrong...but isn't integrating IE into windows exactly what they got in trouble for all those many years ago?? Wasn't there some kind of _legal_ decision stopping them from doing that? Wow...if that's what laws are like in the U.S. I'm comin over and buyin a gun. "Yes I robbed that bank officer...but it was 2 years ago...and no one really remembers, so it doesn't count...think I'll go rob one again"
Actually...you guys have it _really_ bad in the U.S. I have flown internationally quite a bit...and usually I go QANTUS or Air NewZealand or something like that. The economy class of those two is actually pretty good...two seats on either side, three in the middle...it's not as good a business class, but it's quite comfortable...even on a 13 hr flight. However, a couple of years ago I had the misfortune of flying United Airways...I flew first in Business, then economy on the way back (they only had one business seat left and I was travelling with the CEO of the company...hmmmmm, wonder who got it? ;) )...Business class was about as comfortable as QANTAS/Air NZ economy...except you got a little tv (yeah, thanks for that...I can watch seinfeld while I'm writhing in agony)...and economy class...I couldn't believe it...I fully did a double take when I walked in...it was like 10 seats across or something..people were nearly sitting on top of each other, and there was absolutely no room in the isles. Luck I was sitting up the back, in the only 2 seat section, next to a particularly beautiful canadian woman which made the flight 'semi' bearable. If that is what you guys consider good (note your above comment on united)...then you guys really have to fly different airlines. I will _never_ fly united again. And the stewardess was a b*tch...like I was sub human because I was in economy. United is the only U.S. airline I have flown...perhaps someone would like to comment...are the U.S. airlines like this?
read this and think the first few questions were _extremely_ scripted. "oh, Mr RIAA, I think I should be able to pirate as much music as I want...can you please tell me why that's wrong?". Next thing you know, they'll have elmo running their campaigns..."Elmo is sorry mr RIAA, elmo didn't know that p2p networks were bad...elmo will never ever share music again".
Have heard of this happening lots...especially during dot-bomb when companies were taking advantage (like you said, long hours etc to help cut costs)...you have to have the cash to start something yourself (which takes a lot of work and $$) because no other company will touch you as a group (especially if it's a small programming community like some of them out there)...the one thing that goes through the heads of prospective employers it that if they take on the group, then they'll have no control over them...nothing to stop them walking out again. And if you're the ringleader, or one of them...no one will touch you...no one wants to hire a developer that has the power to pull and entire department away from the company...watch out...could be a long time in an unemployement queue if you get a bad rep from this.
Free markets must maintain growth...if they don't, the whole thing goes to sh*t...don't blame the companies, _they_ didn't invent the free market system, they're just a product of it...nor did they create the american social experience...that was created by apathetic americans letting their rights be taken bit by bit. Every day sacrificing a little more freedom for an extra 2% per annum on their savings.
The companies didn't take your rights, the companies didn't betray you...if anything, the companies followed _your_ ("your" being the collective american masses) orders...you said you wanted growth, or you wouldn't invest in the company...you said you wanted growth at all costs to protect your 401k, you said you wanted to make money off their stock and get a good dividend...in fact, in the five years prior to 2001, how many of you (american citizens) asked companies to be loyal, patriotic, just and fair...not many...I was in america 97-99...it was insane...everyone you spoke to was going to be a millionaire from their investments...and I have been told that general view was common many years before '97. But now the bubble has burst, you all of the sudden want your soul back...to bad, you sold it years ago.
American citizens have built a system where their corporations are forced to sell anything they can, to any country that will buy, because if they don't...you'll dump their stock...and that's a lot worse than reading some obscure geek web post bitching about how unpatriotic they are...patriotism doesn't pay the 401k.
Actually...if you really wanted to make some cash...you'd run a butterfly spread on it...that way you would catch the hyped upswing when the courtcase began...and catch the crash when they lose ;)...plus, because it's optioned based...the barrier to entry is like 10% of the stock ownership barrier...but given current volatility, you'd probably be have to overpay a little for the options...just my 2c
ok...I'll feed....w.r.t gutless...my god, could I have made it anymore obvious...be used to _install_ your product _anywhere_...hands up everyone that didn't understand that?!
I worked for a company where a software company (I won't name, but lets just say it bundles installer software that can apparently be used to install your product anywhere ;) ) did this to us. They disabled our liscence...saying we only had a one machine liscence to use the product, and the install builder software had called back to the company supplying two different IP addresses...and thus, had been registered on two different computers.
I found this kind of suspect, because I knew for _sure_ it was only on our build system and that the originals were under lock and key and couldn't have been taken home...so I asked our build engineer to ring them back and ask what the two IP addresses were, so that we could isolate where it had been installed. The first address we were given was the address of the build machine...the second address...you guessed it...127.0.0.1.
We then had to explain to the guy that was handling our compaint why this didn't constitute a licence breach. Now, the serious side...you really want to give someone like this the power to pull the plug on your development system and kill your builds for however many days it takes to get through to someone with a brain? (by the way...the build box was linux...so you're not safe just by staying off windoze)
of having more realestate if it just means that you have bigger text/icons?
if you ask a professional programmer. I am one, I know.
:) )...again, IMHO, the best coders are damn unprofessional...they turn up late...they keep odd hours...the don't cut their hair...the wear cargos to work etc etc.
:)
Excuse me while I fall down at your feet and beg for your wisdom.
I'd think twice about begging the wisdom of a 'professional' programmer...IMHO, 'professional' in this industry means I wasn't good enough to make it on the strength of my code, so I moved into sales, marketing or management (sorry to the sales/marketing/management ppl out there
I tend to humor 'professional programmers' until I can find a replacement...but listen intently to every word that the cargo wearing slacker in the corner has to say
if you ask a professional programmer. I am one, I know
/. _are_ professional programmers.
Dude, a lot of the ppl that read
If you don't _like_ GPL code...don't _use_ GPL code. I get really sick of programmers saying how restrictive GPL is, and how it shouldn't be allowed etc etc...a professional programmer just like you created the code that's under GPL and he or she _chose_ to release it that way...that's their right...so there's really nothing you can do about it but abide, or rewrite it. I find it so arrogant that people will take a component that is handed to them for free and get upset because they can't repackage it or wrap it, and on sell it. Bottom line...you have _no_ right to influence the liscensing, or even comment on the liscencing chosen by another programmer for his work unless you're his boss and are paying him for that work.
GPL...abide, or write it yourself.