So, if you really want to help, then provide education to these people instead of money or services. Let them know how to get organized and how to defend themselves against the landlords.
I have to say, as a developer I see this as a resounding failure on the part of the open source community to self regulate. I quite regularly talk to software organisations that would like to open source part of their product or a less feature rich version. The reasons for this are usually altruistic...but at the same time, they don't want to have their whole business taken away from them and end up in the poor house...so they err on the side of caution.
Bitkeeper offered their free (yes I know) version for open source development. They spent a lot of money developing proprietary, innovative and unique IP and, in support of the open source development community, decided to let them use it at no charge (if they wanted to). The open source community, in contrary to the licence agreement, tried to steal that IP and put bitkeeper out of business.
I see so many posts saying "don't want to honour the GPL, don't use open source"...how about the open source community practice what it preaches?! They accepted bitkeeper and had a massive surge in productivity...they accepted the license, accepted the benefits but didn't honour the agreement...something the community is always complaining about with other companies.
The reverse engineering efforts show in no uncertain terms that the open source community can't be trusted to their honour. That they put their beliefs about everything needing to be open above their word. Their word is worth nothing.
This is a sad, sad day for business/open source relations. The efforts to steal bitkeepers technology is dispicable.
I'm a developer who regular assists on mailing lists and has contributed not an insignificant number of bug fixes to open source products, but I also want a job in 5 years that pays me more than praise, and I see this as an open act of aggression against a commercial entity that did nothing more than offer free use of their IP to help speed up development.
Is brazil really developing? I thought it was pretty developed already?.
Oh, quick question if anyone can answer it I would be very appreciative (massivly off topic). My girlfiend and I are taking our first holiday in about 5 years at the end of this year and would like to spend it in central/south america doing volunteer work. Does anyone know (preferrably someone in the area) of a good place to start hunting to track down contacts. It's a two month period, so only a short stay, but we would like to do as much as we can while we're there.
was very young in the 70s, but yes, I remember the cold war (in a vague, childs viewpoint way). Yes it was scary, yes it was terrible, yes it's now over...I guess I don't understand why, if the U.S. can move so rapidly to forgive China and Russia, but maintains crippling embargoes on Cuba...for an outsider it really looks like it's solely because they stand to make more money from China and Russia so they're happy to bastardise their beliefs...which doesn't say a lot for the country as a whole.
Also, do you have any idea what lengths and what level of massacre Cuba went to while "choosing" to be a communist country?
Actuall, no I don't...I'm not very knowledgable with the history which is why I was asking...was hoping to get some more knowledgable viewpoints...but I would have to ask, was it more or less than was killed in Russia? China? America seems to be fine doing business with both of those?
They followed an order from another country to aim armed nuclear missiles at Florida.
Didn't Russia have nukes pointing at just about every U.S. city for like 20 years?! America seems to not have embargoes on Russia?
yeah...what's up with Cuba...as far as I can see they've done nothing to the U.S. apart from choosing to be a communism country...U.S. deals happily with other communist countries....the cold war is over, why does America still persecute cuba?
by 2008 Americans who crossed freely into Canada will be unable to return to the United States without a passport
Has anyone asked Canada what they think about all the dickhead americans that didn't bring their passport with them being left in their country...american arrogance at it's best:
America: And if you don't bring your passport we won't let you back.
Canada: Hang aboot...don't we get a say in who get's to stay in our country and for how long?
U.S. citizens get pretty pissed off when you try and fingerprint them as they enter another country. And more countries will follow suit with this. The principle of reciprocality is enforced by most nations on this planet....so get ready to be fingerprinted U.S. citizens...you treat guests in your country like criminals, and we'll treat you the same way if you ever come to ours...only we'll probably dick you around for 9 hours in the airport as a bit of payback.
don't forget the biggest concern...the gross out factor. Guy picks his nose, uses a finger print scanner at shopping center...I have to now use that same scanner!?!?! Multiply that by the thousands of people that will use that scanner during the day and the gross things that some people can get up to with their finger!
From my experience, contractors get paid quite a bit more than a permanent employee doing the same work and also have to work significantly less (i.e. if a contractor works overtime, it's _always_ paid...permanents not so lucky). The reason for this premium is because they don't get the same rights as perms. Compare these guys wages to the perms and I think you'll see that it's up to double the standard perm hourly rate. Want rights...then give back that fat contractors wage...what, you want both...ok, screw you, you're contract is terminated:)
don't have to have a presence...international patent treaties ensure that patents processed as 'international' are upheld by all signatories. I don't know whether this one is international, and I'd imagine it's a little harder to get something like this through international patents...but technically you don't need a presence:)
...don't bite the hand that feeds you? How about look after your workers so they're not so pissed off all the time. Does anyone know exactly when we all traded good leadership for threats and extortion?
In the article, RS is implying that Bill Gates once agreed with him on patents, and the quote he gives would make it seem so....however, if you include the bit that he "conveniently" left out, it reads quite the opposite, gates stance on patents has always been the same, and against RSs stance. Nice to know that Microsoft isn't the only one capable of FUD...well done RS.
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hey, for a chance to go into space, I'd probably be happy with 1 in 3
offtopic my ass...hibernate and OJB are direct competitors to each other...I would say that's directly bloody on-topic.
Me thinks someone has an affiliation with the hibernate crew
IMHO significantly better...but click and decide yourself
So, if you really want to help, then provide education to these people instead of money or services. Let them know how to get organized and how to defend themselves against the landlords.
:)
Sheesh...I've only got 2 months off!
I have to say, as a developer I see this as a resounding failure on the part of the open source community to self regulate. I quite regularly talk to software organisations that would like to open source part of their product or a less feature rich version. The reasons for this are usually altruistic...but at the same time, they don't want to have their whole business taken away from them and end up in the poor house...so they err on the side of caution.
Bitkeeper offered their free (yes I know) version for open source development. They spent a lot of money developing proprietary, innovative and unique IP and, in support of the open source development community, decided to let them use it at no charge (if they wanted to). The open source community, in contrary to the licence agreement, tried to steal that IP and put bitkeeper out of business.
I see so many posts saying "don't want to honour the GPL, don't use open source"...how about the open source community practice what it preaches?! They accepted bitkeeper and had a massive surge in productivity...they accepted the license, accepted the benefits but didn't honour the agreement...something the community is always complaining about with other companies.
The reverse engineering efforts show in no uncertain terms that the open source community can't be trusted to their honour. That they put their beliefs about everything needing to be open above their word. Their word is worth nothing.
This is a sad, sad day for business/open source relations. The efforts to steal bitkeepers technology is dispicable.
I'm a developer who regular assists on mailing lists and has contributed not an insignificant number of bug fixes to open source products, but I also want a job in 5 years that pays me more than praise, and I see this as an open act of aggression against a commercial entity that did nothing more than offer free use of their IP to help speed up development.
Is brazil really developing? I thought it was pretty developed already?.
Oh, quick question if anyone can answer it I would be very appreciative (massivly off topic). My girlfiend and I are taking our first holiday in about 5 years at the end of this year and would like to spend it in central/south america doing volunteer work. Does anyone know (preferrably someone in the area) of a good place to start hunting to track down contacts. It's a two month period, so only a short stay, but we would like to do as much as we can while we're there.
lmao...if only I could mod that
same with china
was very young in the 70s, but yes, I remember the cold war (in a vague, childs viewpoint way). Yes it was scary, yes it was terrible, yes it's now over...I guess I don't understand why, if the U.S. can move so rapidly to forgive China and Russia, but maintains crippling embargoes on Cuba...for an outsider it really looks like it's solely because they stand to make more money from China and Russia so they're happy to bastardise their beliefs...which doesn't say a lot for the country as a whole.
Cheers...all I knew about was the missile crisis bit. Thanks for the quick run down :)
Also, do you have any idea what lengths and what level of massacre Cuba went to while "choosing" to be a communist country?
Actuall, no I don't...I'm not very knowledgable with the history which is why I was asking...was hoping to get some more knowledgable viewpoints...but I would have to ask, was it more or less than was killed in Russia? China? America seems to be fine doing business with both of those?
They followed an order from another country to aim armed nuclear missiles at Florida.
Didn't Russia have nukes pointing at just about every U.S. city for like 20 years?! America seems to not have embargoes on Russia?
yeah...what's up with Cuba...as far as I can see they've done nothing to the U.S. apart from choosing to be a communism country...U.S. deals happily with other communist countries....the cold war is over, why does America still persecute cuba?
by 2008 Americans who crossed freely into Canada will be unable to return to the United States without a passport
Has anyone asked Canada what they think about all the dickhead americans that didn't bring their passport with them being left in their country...american arrogance at it's best:
America: And if you don't bring your passport we won't let you back.
Canada: Hang aboot...don't we get a say in who get's to stay in our country and for how long?
America: Is that oil?
Canada: Oh shit
U.S. citizens get pretty pissed off when you try and fingerprint them as they enter another country. And more countries will follow suit with this. The principle of reciprocality is enforced by most nations on this planet....so get ready to be fingerprinted U.S. citizens...you treat guests in your country like criminals, and we'll treat you the same way if you ever come to ours...only we'll probably dick you around for 9 hours in the airport as a bit of payback.
...because no one here ever presents political opinions and I'm sure many would blow over $1000 worth of man hours here a year?
...you watch a show about the english channel and the increase in the volume of ships using it.
don't forget the biggest concern...the gross out factor. Guy picks his nose, uses a finger print scanner at shopping center...I have to now use that same scanner!?!?! Multiply that by the thousands of people that will use that scanner during the day and the gross things that some people can get up to with their finger!
Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
they should at least make sure it works with GJC out of the box
Actually, no...if GJC wants to call itself a java compiler, it should make sure it properly implements the spec.
From my experience, contractors get paid quite a bit more than a permanent employee doing the same work and also have to work significantly less (i.e. if a contractor works overtime, it's _always_ paid...permanents not so lucky). The reason for this premium is because they don't get the same rights as perms. Compare these guys wages to the perms and I think you'll see that it's up to double the standard perm hourly rate. Want rights...then give back that fat contractors wage...what, you want both...ok, screw you, you're contract is terminated :)
don't have to have a presence...international patent treaties ensure that patents processed as 'international' are upheld by all signatories. I don't know whether this one is international, and I'd imagine it's a little harder to get something like this through international patents...but technically you don't need a presence :)
Trust me...if you want to do anything in comp sci in upcoming years, you're going to need a lawyer...might as well make it you and save some money.
...don't bite the hand that feeds you? How about look after your workers so they're not so pissed off all the time. Does anyone know exactly when we all traded good leadership for threats and extortion?
...no so funny when you realise that they tried to make it illegal to collect rain water in Bolivia as it was bypassing the water company (Bechtel).
for an outsider...what's wrong with mexicos water?
...of the bill gates quote
The solution is patenting as much as we can.
In the article, RS is implying that Bill Gates once agreed with him on patents, and the quote he gives would make it seem so....however, if you include the bit that he "conveniently" left out, it reads quite the opposite, gates stance on patents has always been the same, and against RSs stance. Nice to know that Microsoft isn't the only one capable of FUD...well done RS.