"Never attribute malice to that which can be explained by stupidity."
The problem with that is the volume of catastrophic mistakes that seem to "oops" happen over the last several years. When do you stop letting the baby(s) play with the gun? When the baby(s) gets advanced and secret oks and advice from folks who like accidents to happen, and when the baby(s) uses stealth means to acuire the guns anyway, dont you have to wonder at the baby's innocence?
In my opinion you couldnt do this much damage to national wellbeing by accident.
Let's be good parents and put the kids in the playpen, and lock away their access to guns before more accidents "happen".
Buying from the artists website you stand a better chance that the band will get the chunk of profit that the record store would have taken. Hey, at least you are trying to support the band in a direct manner.
What?!?! They didnt have The Ten Commandments? What kind of rental place doesnt have that one? That movie runs 220 minutes. Is there a longer single movie in existance?
I only see 2 "SPACE" movies there total. The rest are scifi sure, but to me a "space movie" is about folks going into space. The going into or traveling through space is the plot in itself. The rest are movies with a plot that isnt central to the space travel.
2001 is a damn fine space movie, Apollo 13 is also a very good space movie, but I'll be damned if any of those others really belong on the list.
I would have included Contact, but but I didnt really feel it was space travel, more like a trip down a phone line in a big pinball.
Well I guess I have some reading to do. I always respect a good counter argument. Hats off to you sir.
But I still think your expectations of the F-22 are overly optimistic. It just costs too fucking much per unit and will be too maintainance intensive. Too many eggs in that one basket, so to speak. I was a fan of the F-20 though and I think we retired the A-10 and A-6 WAY too early, so that probably tells something about how I feel about current defense spending. Also a fan of cold war soviet designs.
Look dude, Im not real happy about a lot of shit the gov does, but I'm not anti-american.
America was a part of the same treaties from WWI were we not? Were we not supposed to defend the same as Britan and France? I'm sorry your warning about the flexibility of fast armor and air support didnt get through in time to cancel the artillery bunker system they poured all their defense bucks into.
Just think we are making those same mistakes today. SDI? effective against small man deployed tactical nukes? how about bio agents poured into the water supply of a large city? I think not.
F-22? How many conventional aircraft can one defeat in a single sortie? I mean the cost is making us build MANY fewer than other nations will have in conventional, tried and trusted types. Will they stand up to the equivelent $ value of 80-90 era F-16s or MIGs? I think not. Not even if they are eventually perfected and combat ready, which is way behind schedule.
The point is, the french were caught in a war they didnt plan for. And to be using that as a bludgeon to villify them is lame, and should have been played out a long damn time ago.
The time to have done something about the Nazis was when it was appearant that their "transport planes" and "airliners" were obviously made for the role of bomber and troop transports. We knew what they were up to then and did nothing, just like the french, british and almost any other nation you can name. It was well known that they were rearming and it was against the armistice treaty. They didnt design, build and test them on the way to the first offensive battles.
As for not invalidating your point, Um... Wasnt your point that France waited to enter the war until they were attacked? I wasnt trying to invalidate your point at all, just trying to find out if you considered the American response to the war was different or better or what. It seems to me that you are the type that thinks anything america does it right, no matter what.
Look at some of my posts regarding this kind of issue.
I'm scared shitless that my daughter starts regular public school next year. Cant afford a private school and it wouldnt matter if I could. All the private schools in the area are run by bible thumpers of one kind or the other.
That said, science teachers are going to hate having my lil girl in the class.
I'm just saying, there are some thinking people here, we are already down, dont kick us too.
"So basically you're saying that the next President will be better than the one we've got now?"
No, the next president will be worse, but we will have more evidence that he sold out his ideals and/or constituants to powerfull special intrest groups and corporations.
What he means is it will make the Daily Show's job a bit easier.
How exactly will communications be better for rescue/law enforcement workers? What is the new stuff going to do that the current stuff wont/doesnt?
Seriously.
And what about all these small home video transmitters that are used to share signals around the home? Those will be off limits after the change over right? What about those folks losing the use of their property?
They really should leave the amature/pirate broadcasters and home video doohickey owners atleast a few channels (both VHF and UHF) to play with. Channels that are already being used for inputs on VCRs and wireless video sharing devices.
There is more equipment being lost here than JUST tv sets. Devices that have had sales tax paid on them, losing the use of those units seems to ammount to taxation without representation. Fuck that, and fuck them.
It means that fewer children were born to women that DIDN"T WANT children. There were fewer orphans and unloved/wanted children who became anitsocial due to abuse, extreme financial hardship, living in the social services system or lack of proper parental care or education, felt the need/desire to or land in situations that require/entice them to kill/rob/rape in adulthood. When less people are born into a situation such as that, then there has to be fewer common criminals later on.
Seems like it should be a priority to try to fix that situation, this "game+teen=crime" bullshit isnt going to fix anything.
I wonder if this could be applied to Corp./Gov. crime somehow? Something about being born into a world where the greedy/power mad are looting retirement funds or abusing official powers is ok because they are just old people or uninformed voters.
Where would you have to set up abortion clinics to get rid of those people in 20 years?
Who was the last great american president who did something besides just speaking about it?
I hear a lot of speaking about it, very little to show except restrictions and regulation of individual freedoms and expansion and deregulation of corporate/government ones.
And you dont mind living as a terrorist/rebel/criminal/hunted animal?
Just look at the death toll on Iraqi insurgents and innocent noncombatants. Then ask yourself how worth while it will be (as a private individual) to rebel against such a force as the US war machine.
You are aware that they have tanks and planes too though right? And missiles and bombs and cannons and radar and nukes and bio-warfare agents and chem weapons? How about the ability to shut down food, water, and fuel supplies?
How does that stack up to that shotgun and 9mm pistol you keep in the closet?
My guess is that testing over Japan would be bad because it is so small. By the time it got up to speed, there would be only water to land it in.
They are testing it over a larger landmass so there will be an area large enough so that it can be recovered without resorting to ships or subs (in case it might sink).
Im just saying, dont dismiss everything just because you feel the source is annoying. Which is what the gp seems to be suggesting. He seems to be looking at the clock, that he feels is broken, to see what time it ISN'T.
When/If the awful end comes, dont you think that if anyone will have seen it coming, it will be "an alarmist"?
Sure would be a bummer to have bugged folks for years about shit that never happened and then miss the one big thing that does.
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"Never attribute malice to that which can be explained by stupidity."
The problem with that is the volume of catastrophic mistakes that seem to "oops" happen over the last several years. When do you stop letting the baby(s) play with the gun? When the baby(s) gets advanced and secret oks and advice from folks who like accidents to happen, and when the baby(s) uses stealth means to acuire the guns anyway, dont you have to wonder at the baby's innocence?
In my opinion you couldnt do this much damage to national wellbeing by accident.
Let's be good parents and put the kids in the playpen, and lock away their access to guns before more accidents "happen".
C.
Buying from the artists website you stand a better chance that the band will get the chunk of profit that the record store would have taken. Hey, at least you are trying to support the band in a direct manner.
C.
I wonder if the guys doing carjacking,killing,whoring and stealing in the 80s can sue for plagerism?
Yeah video games invented violence, greed and lawlessness, now can we move on?
C.
What?!?! They didnt have The Ten Commandments? What kind of rental place doesnt have that one? That movie runs 220 minutes. Is there a longer single movie in existance?
C.
I only see 2 "SPACE" movies there total. The rest are scifi sure, but to me a "space movie" is about folks going into space. The going into or traveling through space is the plot in itself. The rest are movies with a plot that isnt central to the space travel.
2001 is a damn fine space movie, Apollo 13 is also a very good space movie, but I'll be damned if any of those others really belong on the list.
I would have included Contact, but but I didnt really feel it was space travel, more like a trip down a phone line in a big pinball.
C.
http://www.lib.byu.edu/~rdh/wwi/versa/versa1.html
Looks like I was pretty much right, Look at artical 10 and then the list of signatory nations near the end.
We were obligated to defend poland.
And back on topic, I do think we need better incentive for sci/tech students here.
C.
Well I guess I have some reading to do. I always respect a good counter argument. Hats off to you sir.
But I still think your expectations of the F-22 are overly optimistic. It just costs too fucking much per unit and will be too maintainance intensive. Too many eggs in that one basket, so to speak. I was a fan of the F-20 though and I think we retired the A-10 and A-6 WAY too early, so that probably tells something about how I feel about current defense spending. Also a fan of cold war soviet designs.
Cheers,
C.
Look dude, Im not real happy about a lot of shit the gov does, but I'm not anti-american.
America was a part of the same treaties from WWI were we not? Were we not supposed to defend the same as Britan and France? I'm sorry your warning about the flexibility of fast armor and air support didnt get through in time to cancel the artillery bunker system they poured all their defense bucks into.
Just think we are making those same mistakes today. SDI? effective against small man deployed tactical nukes? how about bio agents poured into the water supply of a large city? I think not.
F-22? How many conventional aircraft can one defeat in a single sortie? I mean the cost is making us build MANY fewer than other nations will have in conventional, tried and trusted types. Will they stand up to the equivelent $ value of 80-90 era F-16s or MIGs? I think not. Not even if they are eventually perfected and combat ready, which is way behind schedule.
The point is, the french were caught in a war they didnt plan for. And to be using that as a bludgeon to villify them is lame, and should have been played out a long damn time ago.
The time to have done something about the Nazis was when it was appearant that their "transport planes" and "airliners" were obviously made for the role of bomber and troop transports. We knew what they were up to then and did nothing, just like the french, british and almost any other nation you can name. It was well known that they were rearming and it was against the armistice treaty. They didnt design, build and test them on the way to the first offensive battles.
As for not invalidating your point, Um... Wasnt your point that France waited to enter the war until they were attacked? I wasnt trying to invalidate your point at all, just trying to find out if you considered the American response to the war was different or better or what. It seems to me that you are the type that thinks anything america does it right, no matter what.
C.
"the French sat around and waited to be attacked."
How was it that America entered the war again?
C.
There are a lot of lower middle class folks who vote republican (should know better) too, but I dont know what their problem is either.
C.
I'm from Kansas, we aint all hicks.
Look at some of my posts regarding this kind of issue.
I'm scared shitless that my daughter starts regular public school next year. Cant afford a private school and it wouldnt matter if I could. All the private schools in the area are run by bible thumpers of one kind or the other.
That said, science teachers are going to hate having my lil girl in the class.
I'm just saying, there are some thinking people here, we are already down, dont kick us too.
C.
"So basically you're saying that the next President will be better than the one we've got now?"
No, the next president will be worse, but we will have more evidence that he sold out his ideals and/or constituants to powerfull special intrest groups and corporations.
What he means is it will make the Daily Show's job a bit easier.
C.
Wow, and they give Star Trek geeks shit for spending so much time reading and thinking about a fictional history?
I'll see your Jesus and raise you a Spock.
CB.
They are always happy to reach out with their message, but its a one-way street.
From the blog:
"This is the future. And it is a new way for us to get our message out."
We need some folks in office who listen to the folks they talk at.
C.
How exactly will communications be better for rescue/law enforcement workers? What is the new stuff going to do that the current stuff wont/doesnt?
Seriously.
And what about all these small home video transmitters that are used to share signals around the home? Those will be off limits after the change over right? What about those folks losing the use of their property?
They really should leave the amature/pirate broadcasters and home video doohickey owners atleast a few channels (both VHF and UHF) to play with. Channels that are already being used for inputs on VCRs and wireless video sharing devices.
There is more equipment being lost here than JUST tv sets. Devices that have had sales tax paid on them, losing the use of those units seems to ammount to taxation without representation. Fuck that, and fuck them.
C.
It means that fewer children were born to women that DIDN"T WANT children. There were fewer orphans and unloved/wanted children who became anitsocial due to abuse, extreme financial hardship, living in the social services system or lack of proper parental care or education, felt the need/desire to or land in situations that require/entice them to kill/rob/rape in adulthood. When less people are born into a situation such as that, then there has to be fewer common criminals later on.
Seems like it should be a priority to try to fix that situation, this "game+teen=crime" bullshit isnt going to fix anything.
I wonder if this could be applied to Corp./Gov. crime somehow? Something about being born into a world where the greedy/power mad are looting retirement funds or abusing official powers is ok because they are just old people or uninformed voters.
Where would you have to set up abortion clinics to get rid of those people in 20 years?
C.
Wow man, Im'm glad you posted. I was begining to think I was caught in some heavy deja-vu action.
I dont remember the "christian rock" angle though, but maybe I just filtered out that crap the first time.
Hell, maybe this guy just cut and pasted his original rap.
C.
Who was the last great american president who did something besides just speaking about it?
I hear a lot of speaking about it, very little to show except restrictions and regulation of individual freedoms and expansion and deregulation of corporate/government ones.
C.
And you dont mind living as a terrorist/rebel/criminal/hunted animal?
Just look at the death toll on Iraqi insurgents and innocent noncombatants. Then ask yourself how worth while it will be (as a private individual) to rebel against such a force as the US war machine.
C.
You are aware that they have tanks and planes too though right? And missiles and bombs and cannons and radar and nukes and bio-warfare agents and chem weapons? How about the ability to shut down food, water, and fuel supplies?
How does that stack up to that shotgun and 9mm pistol you keep in the closet?
C.
Thats right man! Money talks and bullshit, well, in this case they are both rapped up in the same package.
I'll be sticking with XP, fuck em.
C.
Ever read the Bible? Lots of violent/sexual content in there and I damn sure dont want my kids exposed to that kind of crap.
And many of the more freakish God pushers that support the Bible seem to be pro-murder and child-rape. Many are tax evaders to boot.
I want them kept under raps too.
A big fine per offence should do nicely.
C.
Thunderbirds are GO, Spectrum is Green.
;-)
I like the way you think though
C.
My guess is that testing over Japan would be bad because it is so small. By the time it got up to speed, there would be only water to land it in.
They are testing it over a larger landmass so there will be an area large enough so that it can be recovered without resorting to ships or subs (in case it might sink).
C.
Im just saying, dont dismiss everything just because you feel the source is annoying. Which is what the gp seems to be suggesting. He seems to be looking at the clock, that he feels is broken, to see what time it ISN'T.
When/If the awful end comes, dont you think that if anyone will have seen it coming, it will be "an alarmist"?
Sure would be a bummer to have bugged folks for years about shit that never happened and then miss the one big thing that does.
C.