Marvel has substituted characters since time immemorial. Captain America has been at least two different people. Thor has been several different people, including another woman and a space alien. Maybe you don't consider this interesting, but Marvel apparently does. You don't have to buy their comics if you don't want to.
If I were Christian I don't think I'd care about anyone's portrayal because Christianity is so strong that people would know my beliefs regardless. But if I felt Norse mythology was a part of my heritage I'd be pretty concerned about what Marvel did because that would be the major exposure a lot of people got to my heritage.
True, but the time to complain about that is when Marvel first appropriated Thor and other mythological characters. What happens here is already well-established in Marvel canon.
They also made Thor come from space, speak English, made Asgard not an afterlife, and changed all sorts of other details.
What makes this change particularly galling to you?
The previous changes were necessary to integrate Thor into the Marvel universe.
This change unnecessarily alters a core characteristic of who Thor is.
No it doesn't. You just think it does, because you don't know what the core characteristic of Marvel Thor is. Thor has been different people before, including another woman and an alien.
Thor's gender is such a significant feature of his established identity that to change his gender is to change his identity from Thor into Something-that-is-not-Thor.
Thor's gender is such a significant feature of his established identity that not just a woman, but also an alien have been Thor in the past. Being Thor isn't about what's between your legs, it's about being worthy to wield Mjolnir.
Thor is a Norse God, NOT a USA Hollywood invention.
This is about the Marvel character, not Norse mythology or Hollywood.
If your problem is with Marvel appropriating mythological characters, then that's a different complaint. A totally valid one, but also one that has nothing to do with the new female Thor.
Thor is a character in Norse mythology. Those stories are part of our cultural heritage. And in those stories, Thor is male.
Yes, but Thor is also a Marvel character. The Marvel character is not the same as the one from Norse mythology, even if a lot of the trappings are the same. The Marvel Thor is whoever happens to be worthy to wield Mjolnir. The old Marvel Thor wasn't born a god, he's a mortal who is worthy to become Thor.
If you object to that, then you object just as much to the old male Thor as to the new female Thor. If you don't object tot he old Thor and you still object to the new Thor, then you're sexist. There's no reason in Marvel canon why a woman can't become Thor, so the problem is entirely in your own preconceptions.
I disagree. Aunt May has a mysterious side that is only hinted at in the comics. On a more serious note: Rogue, Moonstone, Songbird (screaming mimi), Emma Frost, Mystique, AoA Blink, She-Hulk, and plenty of other women have compelling stories (and no, She-Hulk isn't just tits on a Hulk). Granted, Ororo, Jean Grey, Sue (Storm) Richards, and Alyson Blaire are all pretty boring,
Storm is an introvert, but not boring. She's the best leader the X-Men ever had, and continued to lead them when she lost her powers. Jean Grey was the central character of the most dramatic Marvel story ever. Though it's possible that post-Claremont writers don't know what to do with them.
They certainly were, until FDR and later LBJ wanted to turn the Democrats into the civil rights party, and distanced the party from the racist southern democrats, after which Nixon decided that the Republicans should appeal to those southern former-democrats in order to gain more votes, and the parties basically switched position on this issue.
I don't know about the US, but in the Netherlands there are dating sites that cater specifically to the "highly educated", i.e. people with university degrees.
In fact, it seems to be the most lucrative market for dating sites, considering how many cater specifically for that market.
I believe someone did some research in Eindhoven, which, being the home town of tech company Philips as as major tech university, has a high ratio of engineers. Turns out there was also a higher rate of autism in kids. It's possible they also looked at genetics. I forgot the details.
Actually, if they were that smart, they should be able to find each other without a dating service. Or if they don't have time for that, at least build robots that go out there looking for smart people to date...
You mean, like a dating service? Seems to me the smartest thing to do is to use the best tool for the job.
I still have trouble believing that so many people think IQ equates to intelligence, when we don't even understand intelligence all that well.
Exactly. An IQ test tries to measure something we're not sure of what it is or even what we mean by it. As a result, different IQ tests measure slightly different things with different weights. Mostly, IQ tests measure your ability to do IQ tests. That IQ value does correlate strongly with all sorts of stuff, like doing well in school, university and work, but it's no guarantee.
There is no need to try to suggest that is "snobbery" of any kind. Would you call a motorcycle gang "snobs"? Or stamp collectors? MENSA is a social club, nothing more.
Exactly. I don't know much about Mensa, because I've never felt the need to join. I'm pretty sure most of the people around me would qualify, but that also means that we already have plenty of smart people to have intellectual discussions with. My sister, however, studied sports, got surrounded by other sporty people, and eventually started to miss contact with other smart people, so she joined Mensa, and now she talks about all the game events and motorcycle trips they have and all the interesting people she meets there. It fills a need for her that for me is already filled in other ways.
Looks like Ubisoft is again providing pritates with a great opportunity to deliver a superior product. This seems to be Ubisoft's thing. They probably love pirates, that they're being so nice them.
They're doing a lousy job of it. The US has become significantly less free over the past decade and a half. Keeping your country requires taking an interest in how your own country is run, rather than messing with how other countries are run.
You pay for the cable box? I get mine for free with the digital TV subscription. Well, I pay for the subscription of course, but if that included $10 for the box, there wouldn't be much else left for them.
I'm definitely surprised at how stupid many modern TVs are. It's trivial to include a computer in the TV. In fact, they do exactly that to create that awful menu system. Why not make it nicer and include a recorder and a standardized plugin system that your cable provider can put his cable decoding software in?
But should it be a required to join a streaming service in order to have your videos on YouTube? What about all the truly independent non-musicians that have videos on YouTube? It sounds like YouTube is making a difference between musicians and non-musicians for YouTube access.
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Marvel has substituted characters since time immemorial. Captain America has been at least two different people. Thor has been several different people, including another woman and a space alien. Maybe you don't consider this interesting, but Marvel apparently does. You don't have to buy their comics if you don't want to.
If I were Christian I don't think I'd care about anyone's portrayal because Christianity is so strong that people would know my beliefs regardless. But if I felt Norse mythology was a part of my heritage I'd be pretty concerned about what Marvel did because that would be the major exposure a lot of people got to my heritage.
True, but the time to complain about that is when Marvel first appropriated Thor and other mythological characters. What happens here is already well-established in Marvel canon.
They also made Thor come from space, speak English, made Asgard not an afterlife, and changed all sorts of other details.
What makes this change particularly galling to you?
The previous changes were necessary to integrate Thor into the Marvel universe.
This change unnecessarily alters a core characteristic of who Thor is.
No it doesn't. You just think it does, because you don't know what the core characteristic of Marvel Thor is. Thor has been different people before, including another woman and an alien.
Thor's gender is such a significant feature of his established identity that to change his gender is to change his identity from Thor into Something-that-is-not-Thor.
Thor's gender is such a significant feature of his established identity that not just a woman, but also an alien have been Thor in the past. Being Thor isn't about what's between your legs, it's about being worthy to wield Mjolnir.
Thor is a Norse God, NOT a USA Hollywood invention.
This is about the Marvel character, not Norse mythology or Hollywood.
If your problem is with Marvel appropriating mythological characters, then that's a different complaint. A totally valid one, but also one that has nothing to do with the new female Thor.
Thor is a character in Norse mythology. Those stories are part of our cultural heritage. And in those stories, Thor is male.
Yes, but Thor is also a Marvel character. The Marvel character is not the same as the one from Norse mythology, even if a lot of the trappings are the same. The Marvel Thor is whoever happens to be worthy to wield Mjolnir. The old Marvel Thor wasn't born a god, he's a mortal who is worthy to become Thor.
If you object to that, then you object just as much to the old male Thor as to the new female Thor. If you don't object tot he old Thor and you still object to the new Thor, then you're sexist. There's no reason in Marvel canon why a woman can't become Thor, so the problem is entirely in your own preconceptions.
I disagree. Aunt May has a mysterious side that is only hinted at in the comics. On a more serious note: Rogue, Moonstone, Songbird (screaming mimi), Emma Frost, Mystique, AoA Blink, She-Hulk, and plenty of other women have compelling stories (and no, She-Hulk isn't just tits on a Hulk). Granted, Ororo, Jean Grey, Sue (Storm) Richards, and Alyson Blaire are all pretty boring,
Storm is an introvert, but not boring. She's the best leader the X-Men ever had, and continued to lead them when she lost her powers. Jean Grey was the central character of the most dramatic Marvel story ever. Though it's possible that post-Claremont writers don't know what to do with them.
Parent seems to be the comment that this entire uninformed discussion has been waiting for. Where are my mod points?
The question isn't if you're paranoid, it's if you're paranoid enough.
Ku-Klux-Klan were Democrats, not Republicans.
They certainly were, until FDR and later LBJ wanted to turn the Democrats into the civil rights party, and distanced the party from the racist southern democrats, after which Nixon decided that the Republicans should appeal to those southern former-democrats in order to gain more votes, and the parties basically switched position on this issue.
Not all dating sites are scammy, though admittedly some of them definitely are.
I don't know about the US, but in the Netherlands there are dating sites that cater specifically to the "highly educated", i.e. people with university degrees.
In fact, it seems to be the most lucrative market for dating sites, considering how many cater specifically for that market.
Because I am smart enough to know I don't need to be part of a group to be smart.
It's the opposite: you need to be smart to be part of the group. And somehow people like being part of a group.
I believe someone did some research in Eindhoven, which, being the home town of tech company Philips as as major tech university, has a high ratio of engineers. Turns out there was also a higher rate of autism in kids. It's possible they also looked at genetics. I forgot the details.
Has that been corrected for cultural differences?
Actually, if they were that smart, they should be able to find each other without a dating service. Or if they don't have time for that, at least build robots that go out there looking for smart people to date...
You mean, like a dating service? Seems to me the smartest thing to do is to use the best tool for the job.
I still have trouble believing that so many people think IQ equates to intelligence, when we don't even understand intelligence all that well.
Exactly. An IQ test tries to measure something we're not sure of what it is or even what we mean by it. As a result, different IQ tests measure slightly different things with different weights. Mostly, IQ tests measure your ability to do IQ tests. That IQ value does correlate strongly with all sorts of stuff, like doing well in school, university and work, but it's no guarantee.
There are motorcycle groups within Mensa. How's that for snobbery?
There is no need to try to suggest that is "snobbery" of any kind. Would you call a motorcycle gang "snobs"? Or stamp collectors? MENSA is a social club, nothing more.
Exactly. I don't know much about Mensa, because I've never felt the need to join. I'm pretty sure most of the people around me would qualify, but that also means that we already have plenty of smart people to have intellectual discussions with. My sister, however, studied sports, got surrounded by other sporty people, and eventually started to miss contact with other smart people, so she joined Mensa, and now she talks about all the game events and motorcycle trips they have and all the interesting people she meets there. It fills a need for her that for me is already filled in other ways.
Steam may be DRM, but it does provide some advantages in other areas that might balance things out.
Looks like Ubisoft is again providing pritates with a great opportunity to deliver a superior product. This seems to be Ubisoft's thing. They probably love pirates, that they're being so nice them.
They are keeping you free.
They're doing a lousy job of it. The US has become significantly less free over the past decade and a half. Keeping your country requires taking an interest in how your own country is run, rather than messing with how other countries are run.
You pay for the cable box? I get mine for free with the digital TV subscription. Well, I pay for the subscription of course, but if that included $10 for the box, there wouldn't be much else left for them.
I'm definitely surprised at how stupid many modern TVs are. It's trivial to include a computer in the TV. In fact, they do exactly that to create that awful menu system. Why not make it nicer and include a recorder and a standardized plugin system that your cable provider can put his cable decoding software in?
But should it be a required to join a streaming service in order to have your videos on YouTube? What about all the truly independent non-musicians that have videos on YouTube? It sounds like YouTube is making a difference between musicians and non-musicians for YouTube access.