Game realism with regards to dying from wounds and no respawn is truly not fun. Especially if you spend more time being dead than actually playing the game.
Counterstrike as an example, is probably about the limit for which fun can be said to be had with the relatively short rounds of gameplay.
I found Counterstrike quite awful, exactly because it was so unrealistic. It's life on fast-forward. A firefight at ridiculous speeds. I much preferred the more mellow pace of America's Army. And leg wounds really cripple you there. Another feature which I quite appreciated as lay there bleeding on the ground.
I'm not a fan on shooters or RL armies, but for a piece of military propaganda, AA was a pretty decent game.
But how do they check what you're copying, and therefore what artist/writer to send the money to? Well, if nobody knows, I guess they can just keep the money for themselves, right?
Netherland too. There's a tax on audio cassettes and recordable CDs (which annoys people who want to use CDs to backup their own data), but not on MP3 players yet, I think. And downloading copyrighted stuff is explicitly legal (but uploading isn't, so no torrenting). Of course the industry wants to tax harddisks too, and they want downloading to become illegal. And they might get that second one, but it looks like they'll lose the CD tax if that happens.
Not to mention, men tend to have to work and provide the money for her to stay home playing an MMO 24x7. Not raising unfair stereotypes here. I've seen it in action. Lazy fucking people that somehow use their tits to sucker some dumbass into busting his ass at a thankless job while the chick sits around all day playing WoW (and occasionally meeting guys she met online). I've seen that enough that I personally wouldn't ever date a chick that's really into games or the internet.
Do you think games and internet are the problem here? Would it be better if she spent all day at the mall buying stuff and meeting people (including possibly guys)? Isn't the real problem that you're dating someone who is simply too lazy to get a job?
Men have no option but to work non-stop every day of their lives from the day they're on their own (or before) until the day they die. So plenty of stress. And on top of that, they tend to have more dangerous jobs. No cushy relying on someone else to make their ends meet while they chat all day at a salon with the girls or watch oprah while the kids are playing in the yard outside all afternoon after school.
Yeah, I think you're dating the wrong people. My wife has a better paying job than I have. (If one of us ever has to give up their job for the kids, it's going to be me.)
Exactly. But GP can say from experience that a gamer girl might drag your ass out of bed at 6 am to level alts. There's little doubt that this is what he meant to say, but he didn't.
Honestly, I think it's healthy for me that my wife is a non-gamer... because otherwise I'd game far too much.
Same here. We have an 8 months old kid. If we were both gamers, who'd take care of him?
Incidentally, while she didn't like boardgames when we met, she really does like Dominion, and now almost every evening she asks me if I'd like a game of Dominion (which I do, of course), and we end up playing 4. So I may accidentally be turning her into a gamer. I hope she doesn't go as overboard as I before our son is old enough to get his own food from the fridge, though.
It only maximises shareholder value for the spammer (but does pushing an empty search page really benefit them in any way?), but it doesn't maximise shareholder value for anyone else. It hurts Google, it hurts other sites indexed by Google, and it hurts me trying to find more meaningful results than Target's empty search page.
Maybe the contract says that it's really their phone? Or, more likely, in the contract you give them explicit permission to mess with data on your phone. In which case I wonder if you shouldn't be able to revoke that permission.
AC is pretty, that's for sure. The historical accuracy, well, not so much. I mean, yes, Templars, Crusaders, Richard, Saladin - it's got the right names and places to a degree, but the plot etc is sheer fantasy (nothing wrong with that in a game, of course, but if it's historical accuracy you want, it is somewhat lacking). I'd say it's similar to the Civilization series in this manner - there's a lot of good starting points and places that can trigger you to go and learn some more, but the Aztecs didn't build the Great Wall.
I don't expect it to be a perfect historical reenactment, but a backdrop of historical characters in historical cities during a historical event (the third crusade), sounds pretty educational to me.
The real question to me is how relevant those historical aspects really are during the game. Are you just teleported from one collection of rooftops to another, where you have to find some guy with a weird name and kill him, and then on to the next one, or do you really get a taste for what those cities were like, what was really going on there, who Richard and Saladin were, etc? Do you get to hear an English king speak in a French accent, or can you easily avoid to hear him talk?
I get the point that it's a violent game. You're an assassin in the middle of the Crusades. I wouldn't expect a WW2 game to be all peace and happiness either, but I would appreciate a historically reasonably accurate representation.
Yeah, but the average toy store around here doesn't sell D&D either. You have to go to specialty game stores for that. If I wanted to buy mature games (computer or otherwise) for my kids, I wouldn't take them to a toy store, I'd take them to a store that's more appropriate for those kind of games.
I think selling these games in toy shops gives the impression that these are games for kids, when they aren't. That doesn't mean that teens can't play them. They can read mature literature too (in fact, they have to, for school), and there's tons of sex and emotional trauma in there too. But I wouldn't look for those books in a toy store.
Speaking of retailers, I'm always surprised when I see 18+ rated games in a toy store. Aren't toy stores explicitly aimed at kids? Don't adults tend to get their computer games elsewhere? Why are toy stores even selling Bio Shock or GTA?
Assassin's Creed 2 replaced by Mirror's Edge: I haven't played AC2, but I would probably agree that the original AC is "not for kids". Mirror's Edge doesn't seem outlandish as a replacement; it's not some twee kiddy game and it does contain violence. It's just a bit less "in your face" with it. So no problems with this one.
I haven't played it either, but I just read something about Assassin's Creed's historical accuracy, and I'm very impressed. Especially for a mainstream game. I don't know how much the game actually focuses on the historical parts or whether the focus is more on mindless violence (do you really kill only 9 people in that game?), but if it's done right, I could even see myself encouraging my kids to play it. I love history. Maybe I should give it a try myself.
GTA on the other hand, yeah, not for kids.
For Dragon Age (haven't played it yet, but I'm sure I will eventually), the first replacement that came to mind was Drakensang. On the whole it's pretty harmless and wholesome, although it does have a bit too much focus on combat (killing those wolfrats gets tedious after a while), and the women tend to have quite a bit of cleavage. But it's not overly gory or focusing on sexual encounters (like the Witcher. Hoo boy!).
C is almost as verbose as Java, and C++ is equally verbose.
So what's the equally verbose C version of this? (C++, because I don't know modern Java)
int foo(std::map<std::string, int>& bar) {
return ++bar["baz"]; }
There's no pointer arithmatic on memory addresses in Java, and with good reason. Yes, there are things that are more concise in C++, but you're also risking a segmentation fault by using them.
Sorry, but you don't make sense. I agree that C, Java and C++ code is more verbose than the Python or Perl counterparts, but lumping them together is ridiculous,
Compared to other languages, C++ and Java are definitely in the same league. C maybe not.
and FUD.
FUD? Do you even know what that means? It doesn't simply mean "I disagree with you".
You know what's going on, you can analyse and understand it, but you're not really part of it. You don't have an intuitive feel for it like others do.
Bleh, I wish. Analyzing and understanding both require observing something to begin with, took me years just to get that part sorted out.
Don't get me wrong, it took me ages to figure that out too. Worked hard at it. And now I understand enough of it to know what I'm missing.
(Honey, when you say "it's ok", does that mean you're not gonna be pissed off when I spend half the night playing games? No, not really? Ok, so why didn't you just fucking say so in the first place? Cue more passive-aggressive relationship stuff...)
I've always been really clear about this: when you need something from me, ask me directly, or I won't notice. If you ask me if those pants make you fat, I'll probably answer that most likely it was the food. It works. We're both sufficiently aware of this and find it occasionally very funny. And I have a great wife. That also helps.
Still, sometimes she forgets, and I don't notice, and I end up doing something that she doesn't like. But then she also knows it's her fault for not being more explicit.
One of my favorite examples of Aspergers is the guy that you meet in the street that you vaguely know and greet with "hey man, how you doing", who then walks over to you and starts telling you his life's story.
Oh yeah, I'm definitely that guy. I always tell people my life's story, even when they don't ask for it. And if someone asks me how I'm doing, I often give a slightly too honest answer.
Also, I often have no idea if I really vagualy know someone, or if he just looks vagely like someone I vagely know. I'm bad at faces and even worse at names. Doesn't exactly help me in social situations either.
Why is this modded as troll? It's actually quite truthful. I was diagnosed with aspergers as a teen. This was after my parents kicked me off home when I was 11 years old and per government requirements, I had to go to a different school (which was mostly so that the people there could diagnose me). Later I was moved to normal school, with "aspergers syndrome" stamped on me as a result.
Later I read about it and most of the things just doesn't fit.
Whenever psychologists and other "experts" describe Asperger's, I recognise absolutely nothing about it. But when someone who has it describes it, I recognise everything. Best description I ever heard was in social situations feeling like an anthropologist on Mars. You know what's going on, you can analyse and understand it, but you're not really part of it. You don't have an intuitive feel for it like others do. That's me. I recognise that completely. Social situations are hard work for me (or I just ignore them). But other than that, I have no problem functioning normally.
But as soon as a psychologist opens his mouth about Asperger's, it turns into some disability that other people have.
Sometimes? Unless you' only want to mess with individual bits and memory locations (for which C is really the only choice), C is almost as verbose as Java, and C++ is equally verbose. Sure, you don't need to wrap everything in a class, but you do need to declare everything, and you need to manage your own memory, something which no sane language requires you to do.
Actually, perpetual machines have more stringent guidelines for patent application, where there must be a working prototype first.
I thought all inventions needed a working prototype. That'd be a very sane requirement to stop the flood of silly, stupid and obvious patents that are only based on some fancy idea rather than actual research.
This means that negotiations between national entities are far more complex: you know you can't be seen talking to the enemy, but at the same, you have to find a way to talk anyway.
Why can't you be seen talking to the enemy? The enemy is about the most important person to talk to; if you can work out your differences, you're fixing a lot of problems.
I know that's not how international diplomats think, but they're wrong. I was seriously pissed after Hamas got elected in Palestine. Not just because Hamas got elected (though that wasn't exactly a glorious moment either), but much more so because everybody refused to talk to them, withdrew diplomats and stuff like that. A group that's always been part of the problem suddenly gets political responsibility (which also means the political arm gets a lot more power relative to the militant arm), and becomes an partner in negotiations. It's the best opportunity you're ever going to get to really talk (and thereby influence) them, and that's exactly the kind of opportunity you need to seize, rather than throw away.
Sorry for that rant. I don't want to turn this into a Middle-East flamewar, but this was the most flagrant example I could think of where every politician and diplomat in the world did the wrong thing. Politicians who think it's good politics not to talk to people you disagree with, need to get shot.
I've never seen a native English speaker use a diaeresis. This is actually the first time I've seen it used for the work cooperate by anyone.
The guy who used it here is most likely Dutch, where a diaeresis on cooperate is normal. (It's possible the last spelling reform changed it to a hyphen. I fail to keep up with that sort of nonsense.)
not sent by Epic themselves but rather their trigger-happy crack legal team
With all due respect, that's complete and utter apologist bullshit. Anyone on Epic's payroll is Epic. Nobody forced Epic to pay legal attack dogs, and nobody else was responsible for them doing what they were paid to do.
Epic's apology could mean something if they fired and sued that crack legal team for hurting their name.
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Game realism with regards to dying from wounds and no respawn is truly not fun. Especially if you spend more time being dead than actually playing the game.
Counterstrike as an example, is probably about the limit for which fun can be said to be had with the relatively short rounds of gameplay.
I found Counterstrike quite awful, exactly because it was so unrealistic. It's life on fast-forward. A firefight at ridiculous speeds. I much preferred the more mellow pace of America's Army. And leg wounds really cripple you there. Another feature which I quite appreciated as lay there bleeding on the ground.
I'm not a fan on shooters or RL armies, but for a piece of military propaganda, AA was a pretty decent game.
But how do they check what you're copying, and therefore what artist/writer to send the money to? Well, if nobody knows, I guess they can just keep the money for themselves, right?
I for one welcome my new beowolf clustered meme overlords from Soviet Russia!
(Doesn't look like it gets funnier if you add more of them, does it?)
Netherland too. There's a tax on audio cassettes and recordable CDs (which annoys people who want to use CDs to backup their own data), but not on MP3 players yet, I think. And downloading copyrighted stuff is explicitly legal (but uploading isn't, so no torrenting). Of course the industry wants to tax harddisks too, and they want downloading to become illegal. And they might get that second one, but it looks like they'll lose the CD tax if that happens.
Agreed. I don't think it was anti-technology, but rather all about using your resources wisely.
I haven't seen it yet, but from what I've heard, it's more anti-exploitation and oppression rather than anti-technology.
Then again, Lord of the Rings was a pretty high-tech movie too, but also had an anti-technology sub-theme. And it's certainly pro-pastoral life.
I mean, other than both being fucked-in-the-head video game sexual fetishists?
Ass, not head. It's an easy mistake to make, though.
Not to mention, men tend to have to work and provide the money for her to stay home playing an MMO 24x7. Not raising unfair stereotypes here. I've seen it in action. Lazy fucking people that somehow use their tits to sucker some dumbass into busting his ass at a thankless job while the chick sits around all day playing WoW (and occasionally meeting guys she met online). I've seen that enough that I personally wouldn't ever date a chick that's really into games or the internet.
Do you think games and internet are the problem here? Would it be better if she spent all day at the mall buying stuff and meeting people (including possibly guys)? Isn't the real problem that you're dating someone who is simply too lazy to get a job?
Men have no option but to work non-stop every day of their lives from the day they're on their own (or before) until the day they die. So plenty of stress. And on top of that, they tend to have more dangerous jobs. No cushy relying on someone else to make their ends meet while they chat all day at a salon with the girls or watch oprah while the kids are playing in the yard outside all afternoon after school.
Yeah, I think you're dating the wrong people. My wife has a better paying job than I have. (If one of us ever has to give up their job for the kids, it's going to be me.)
Exactly. But GP can say from experience that a gamer girl might drag your ass out of bed at 6 am to level alts. There's little doubt that this is what he meant to say, but he didn't.
Honestly, I think it's healthy for me that my wife is a non-gamer... because otherwise I'd game far too much.
Same here. We have an 8 months old kid. If we were both gamers, who'd take care of him?
Incidentally, while she didn't like boardgames when we met, she really does like Dominion, and now almost every evening she asks me if I'd like a game of Dominion (which I do, of course), and we end up playing 4. So I may accidentally be turning her into a gamer. I hope she doesn't go as overboard as I before our son is old enough to get his own food from the fridge, though.
It only maximises shareholder value for the spammer (but does pushing an empty search page really benefit them in any way?), but it doesn't maximise shareholder value for anyone else. It hurts Google, it hurts other sites indexed by Google, and it hurts me trying to find more meaningful results than Target's empty search page.
Maybe the contract says that it's really their phone? Or, more likely, in the contract you give them explicit permission to mess with data on your phone. In which case I wonder if you shouldn't be able to revoke that permission.
AC is pretty, that's for sure. The historical accuracy, well, not so much. I mean, yes, Templars, Crusaders, Richard, Saladin - it's got the right names and places to a degree, but the plot etc is sheer fantasy (nothing wrong with that in a game, of course, but if it's historical accuracy you want, it is somewhat lacking). I'd say it's similar to the Civilization series in this manner - there's a lot of good starting points and places that can trigger you to go and learn some more, but the Aztecs didn't build the Great Wall.
I don't expect it to be a perfect historical reenactment, but a backdrop of historical characters in historical cities during a historical event (the third crusade), sounds pretty educational to me.
The real question to me is how relevant those historical aspects really are during the game. Are you just teleported from one collection of rooftops to another, where you have to find some guy with a weird name and kill him, and then on to the next one, or do you really get a taste for what those cities were like, what was really going on there, who Richard and Saladin were, etc? Do you get to hear an English king speak in a French accent, or can you easily avoid to hear him talk?
I get the point that it's a violent game. You're an assassin in the middle of the Crusades. I wouldn't expect a WW2 game to be all peace and happiness either, but I would appreciate a historically reasonably accurate representation.
Yeah, but the average toy store around here doesn't sell D&D either. You have to go to specialty game stores for that. If I wanted to buy mature games (computer or otherwise) for my kids, I wouldn't take them to a toy store, I'd take them to a store that's more appropriate for those kind of games.
I think selling these games in toy shops gives the impression that these are games for kids, when they aren't. That doesn't mean that teens can't play them. They can read mature literature too (in fact, they have to, for school), and there's tons of sex and emotional trauma in there too. But I wouldn't look for those books in a toy store.
Speaking of retailers, I'm always surprised when I see 18+ rated games in a toy store. Aren't toy stores explicitly aimed at kids? Don't adults tend to get their computer games elsewhere? Why are toy stores even selling Bio Shock or GTA?
Assassin's Creed 2 replaced by Mirror's Edge: I haven't played AC2, but I would probably agree that the original AC is "not for kids". Mirror's Edge doesn't seem outlandish as a replacement; it's not some twee kiddy game and it does contain violence. It's just a bit less "in your face" with it. So no problems with this one.
I haven't played it either, but I just read something about Assassin's Creed's historical accuracy, and I'm very impressed. Especially for a mainstream game. I don't know how much the game actually focuses on the historical parts or whether the focus is more on mindless violence (do you really kill only 9 people in that game?), but if it's done right, I could even see myself encouraging my kids to play it. I love history. Maybe I should give it a try myself.
GTA on the other hand, yeah, not for kids.
For Dragon Age (haven't played it yet, but I'm sure I will eventually), the first replacement that came to mind was Drakensang. On the whole it's pretty harmless and wholesome, although it does have a bit too much focus on combat (killing those wolfrats gets tedious after a while), and the women tend to have quite a bit of cleavage. But it's not overly gory or focusing on sexual encounters (like the Witcher. Hoo boy!).
I learned all my social skills in fantasy worlds.
So what's the equally verbose C version of this? (C++, because I don't know modern Java)
There's no pointer arithmatic on memory addresses in Java, and with good reason. Yes, there are things that are more concise in C++, but you're also risking a segmentation fault by using them.
Sorry, but you don't make sense. I agree that C, Java and C++ code is more verbose than
the Python or Perl counterparts, but lumping them together is ridiculous,
Compared to other languages, C++ and Java are definitely in the same league. C maybe not.
and FUD.
FUD? Do you even know what that means? It doesn't simply mean "I disagree with you".
You know what's going on, you can analyse and understand it, but you're not really part of it. You don't have an intuitive feel for it like others do.
Bleh, I wish. Analyzing and understanding both require observing something to begin with, took me years just to get that part sorted out.
Don't get me wrong, it took me ages to figure that out too. Worked hard at it. And now I understand enough of it to know what I'm missing.
(Honey, when you say "it's ok", does that mean you're not gonna be pissed off when I spend half the night playing games? No, not really? Ok, so why didn't you just fucking say so in the first place? Cue more passive-aggressive relationship stuff...)
I've always been really clear about this: when you need something from me, ask me directly, or I won't notice. If you ask me if those pants make you fat, I'll probably answer that most likely it was the food. It works. We're both sufficiently aware of this and find it occasionally very funny. And I have a great wife. That also helps.
Still, sometimes she forgets, and I don't notice, and I end up doing something that she doesn't like. But then she also knows it's her fault for not being more explicit.
One of my favorite examples of Aspergers is the guy that you meet in the street that you vaguely know and greet with "hey man, how you doing", who then walks over to you and starts telling you his life's story.
Oh yeah, I'm definitely that guy. I always tell people my life's story, even when they don't ask for it. And if someone asks me how I'm doing, I often give a slightly too honest answer.
Also, I often have no idea if I really vagualy know someone, or if he just looks vagely like someone I vagely know. I'm bad at faces and even worse at names. Doesn't exactly help me in social situations either.
Plagiarism is easy to avoid by mentioning the original in the credits.
Why is this modded as troll? It's actually quite truthful. I was diagnosed with aspergers as a teen. This was after my parents kicked me off home when I was 11 years old and per government requirements, I had to go to a different school (which was mostly so that the people there could diagnose me). Later I was moved to normal school, with "aspergers syndrome" stamped on me as a result.
Later I read about it and most of the things just doesn't fit.
Whenever psychologists and other "experts" describe Asperger's, I recognise absolutely nothing about it. But when someone who has it describes it, I recognise everything. Best description I ever heard was in social situations feeling like an anthropologist on Mars. You know what's going on, you can analyse and understand it, but you're not really part of it. You don't have an intuitive feel for it like others do. That's me. I recognise that completely. Social situations are hard work for me (or I just ignore them). But other than that, I have no problem functioning normally.
But as soon as a psychologist opens his mouth about Asperger's, it turns into some disability that other people have.
C is terse, but sometimes it's not concise.
Sometimes? Unless you' only want to mess with individual bits and memory locations (for which C is really the only choice), C is almost as verbose as Java, and C++ is equally verbose. Sure, you don't need to wrap everything in a class, but you do need to declare everything, and you need to manage your own memory, something which no sane language requires you to do.
If you want concise, you need to look at Ruby.
Actually, perpetual machines have more stringent guidelines for patent application, where there must be a working prototype first.
I thought all inventions needed a working prototype. That'd be a very sane requirement to stop the flood of silly, stupid and obvious patents that are only based on some fancy idea rather than actual research.
This means that negotiations between national entities are far more complex: you know you can't be seen talking to the enemy, but at the same, you have to find a way to talk anyway.
Why can't you be seen talking to the enemy? The enemy is about the most important person to talk to; if you can work out your differences, you're fixing a lot of problems.
I know that's not how international diplomats think, but they're wrong. I was seriously pissed after Hamas got elected in Palestine. Not just because Hamas got elected (though that wasn't exactly a glorious moment either), but much more so because everybody refused to talk to them, withdrew diplomats and stuff like that. A group that's always been part of the problem suddenly gets political responsibility (which also means the political arm gets a lot more power relative to the militant arm), and becomes an partner in negotiations. It's the best opportunity you're ever going to get to really talk (and thereby influence) them, and that's exactly the kind of opportunity you need to seize, rather than throw away.
Sorry for that rant. I don't want to turn this into a Middle-East flamewar, but this was the most flagrant example I could think of where every politician and diplomat in the world did the wrong thing. Politicians who think it's good politics not to talk to people you disagree with, need to get shot.
I've never seen a native English speaker use a diaeresis. This is actually the first time I've seen it used for the work cooperate by anyone.
The guy who used it here is most likely Dutch, where a diaeresis on cooperate is normal. (It's possible the last spelling reform changed it to a hyphen. I fail to keep up with that sort of nonsense.)
With all due respect, that's complete and utter apologist bullshit. Anyone on Epic's payroll is Epic. Nobody forced Epic to pay legal attack dogs, and nobody else was responsible for them doing what they were paid to do.
Epic's apology could mean something if they fired and sued that crack legal team for hurting their name.