Good point, except that Napster, etc. also require IE 5.5 and WMP 9.0 which takes out Mac users entirely. Granted we are only 3.7% of the market, but Apple's systems works on both Mac and Windows, which is more than I can say for the rest.
First, it assumes that somehow the theory of evolution, which has held up for 150+ years, is a tenuous set of ideas, especially in comparison to other parts of the scientific cannon. It gives evolution a position that makes it appear less valid than other scientific theories such as electromagnatism, gravity, and chemistry.
Second, it introduces doubt and confusion in students about not only evolution, but the scientific method entirely by confusing the meaning of the word theory.
Your argument continues to do what other Creation-Scientists, ID or whatever you're ilk are calling themselves, have done: you confuse theory and the scientific method with conjucture and supposition and, even religion.
If ID people really believed in their faith, they would persue the strict teaching of the scientific method and evolution allowing their kids to decide on what they want to believe.
If you have a "real job that requires real time" then why are you posting on Slashdot, not once but twice?!
Second, congrats at being an Americasn {sic} who is good at math and science, but it also be nice if you could write a coherent sentence with real punctuation.
I'm an American and I love my country, but people like you--an antagonistic fuckwit who is too busy to bother being polite and articulate--embarrass this country and I'm sick of seeing posts like this.
Think of your favorite console game; has it crashed recently? Ever?
Um, yeah, it did and it was Halo 2 on the Xbox.
However, an embedded system (OS) could be very reliable if relegated to the workings of the car and it's entertainment system, but keeping the car from crashing? We can't even get a vehicle to drive out in the desert and not fall into a ravine, so I think we're a long way from getting a system that can deal with the myriad of choices and reactions necessary to drive in a modern city.
And, MS is far too interested in extending Windows to do this properly.
Just a question, was the change from Windows 2000 to Windows XP significant enough to warrant $300 at the time it came out? Why or why not?
Couldn't it be possible that the Windows system, including Service Packs, is not the only way to develop and promote operating systems and Apple's way is just simply different from the Windows system and therefore you're comparison is flawed?
How much have you read about Tiger and do you understand that not only are there new features, but also some serious 'under-the-hood' changes?
Is it just distinctly possible that you don't know anything about Panther or Tiger and are just simply repeating another wonderful internet meme that will go round and round everytime someone mentions Apple?
"Unauthorized" biographies are the only kind worth reading...
Perhaps, the problem is with the term 'unauthorized' which is often used to promote poorly written and nearly libelous accounts of people's lives full of threadbare research that is made merely to make a great sum of money out of the empty-headed mob that make up celebrity worship. You seem them on the checkout stand at the local grocery.
However, Jobs is just reacting as a typical egomaniac would, furious that someone would write a book without his express approval. I do think the title is ill-considered, because iCon has both the meaning of icon and I Con (you?).
And, yep you're right, Wiley will make more money now than by selling the book at Apple Stores. First rule of PR, never make a big stink about anything you don't want anyone to notice.
This leads me to one fairly basic conclusion. Most of the people posting on Slashdot these days are young, easily impressionable males, that have little sense or understanding of two sides of a discussion and generally are very one-eyed about subjects with little or no flexibilty to gauge information as valid or relevant.
You know you're reading Slashdot, right?
Seriously, it is entirely possible, and even a sign of intelligence to be able to hold two intellectually opposing ideas in your head at the same time.
For example:
- Apple and OSX is good, but...
- MS is evil because of Windows which blows, however Xbox Live is remarkably well-made, and frankly if those engineers were put in charge Windows might start sucking less.
Flame wars are part of discussions on the internet unfortunately, where people are anonymous--how many flames are started or furthered by ACs?--and therefore much braver than they would normally be.
But, I agree the mods are just using the system to hammer opposing opinions; I find myself modding a lot of content 'redundant.'
Oh not this little bourbon again...a school's job is not to teach people to be little software drones, it's job is to instill critical thinking, knowledge, and ethics. Furthermore, the kid if properly taught will be able to quickly adapt to the brand-new MS Office which is somthing employers are really looking for: intelligence and adaptability.
If a graduating student cannot get a job simply because he does not know Office than we should abandon the school system entirely and just simple hand-out MS manuals.
There is more to knowledge than knowing how to dismiss Clippy with the right combinations.
But most students don't turn in papers with 'custom work' rather they create documents that, except for some minor font changes, could have been done on a typewriter. OpenOffice should be a fine change in a computer lab, with a few legacy copies of Office kept around to ensure compatibility. Frankly, even with Word you can run into problems with students who are still using WordPerfect, WordStar or some other ancient program.
There are benefits to using industry-standard standards, not programs.
And yet, even if your critiques are true Kerry actually served and saw combat, unlike a certain National Guard dropout who couldn't be bothered to finish his required term.
Well, if it's like everything else: Google Maps for example, than Mac/Linux versions are on their way. In this case I would think it would behoove Google to get Mac users up sooner because, as you pointed out, they have more self-produced video content.
I think the difference is Apple is trying to balance the need for DRM (some people really believe in this shit) and Fair Use. They haven't always succeeded, but at least they're trying. On the other hand you have Microsoft who thinks DRM is such a great idea, they're going to bring it down to the hardware level with Trusted Computing. IBM, et. al. have resisted getting into the fray at all, and thus Linux as an operating system has no real voice in this, at yet is probably the most threatened by DRM and all of it associated hobgoblins.
Remember that Apple often restricts iTunes because of a demand by the RIAA, so the fact that we still have a good system of actual rights with digital music is at least partly by the work of Apple.
I think if able to Apple would institute a transparent DRM system that was as fair as possible if given the opportunity. On the other hand, Microsoft will lock down your computer so much so you'll have to ask permission from someone in Bangalore before you can burn a CD.
I don't think you're comment is trolling, but it is redundant--there's like twelve posts stating the same thing, but then my post is probably redudant too.
I still think OSX offers some real extras that you've given up in exhange for arguably better hardware. Macs aren't even in the x86 market, so while we could argue to the crack of doom about which is faster, I would point out that user experience is also key. Maybe you could take that $350, keep in it the bank for a bit, and spend $500 on a Mac Mini to get an idea of how cool OSX is.
I would argue that the great thing about Mac is their usefulness for both people who 'wanna get stuff done' and graphic designers--who also want to get their stuff done. I think what's changed after the inception of OSX is the perception that Macs were only for graphic designers.
I've been really impressed with the wide swaths of people using OSX to do radically different things, from genetic research to cleaning up old movie negatives, from UNIX coding to setting up a wireless network in a few minutes.
Tell her about iLife, including the ability to make movies very easily, or iTunes, which is a really cool program, or Safari (cousin to Firefox) and how you don't have to worry about the associated costs of programs to protect your computer from spyware, viruses, and other fun malware. And, you can use any USB keyboard and mouse (even, gasp! a multi-button one, which can be had for like $19). The Mac Mini is tiny and silent to boot. Take her to an Apple Store or retailer, let her look at it, then be a man and buy the thing anyway, her opinion be damned.
No, the reason is the radio sucks for finding new music. However, I surf the net and iTunes and I find new music all the time. There's lots of music out there for free that very good and cutting edge and isn't the new 50 Cent single, which I couldn't give two shits about.
Clear channel has killed radio and for the rare song that's actually good I've already been listening to it for months.
Ummm no. The Shuffle can play playlists just as easily as the regular iPods, so you don't have to join all the tracks in a cd..together and make a single Mp3, that would be a huge waste of time.
The guy broke a NDA, he signed an agreement not to release the software. This is speaks to the one of the foundation of our society, the ability to make an hold to an agreement. The ad hominem attack on Jobs is a nice little aside to the fact that the law recognizes agreements as important to the structure of business. Plus, it has to do with karma, Slashdot currently sees MS and the RIAA as entities without karma, both have done so many stupid and malicious things that they can't help but react with pitchforks and 'effigies'. Meanwhile, Apple has created nice products without finding interesting ways of screwing its customers. That's the difference; you shouldn't have gotten Troll but rather Redundant for saying something that has been in every thread here for the last year.
Try to be more clever; like 'Reich-publicans' I like that.
I hate replying to ACs, but if you never noticed a single homeless person in Europe it's because your fricking blind or you spent all your time in the countryside.
However, you are correct about the differences between net income between Europe and the US, as well as adding in the factor that Americans typically work longer hours and take fewer vacations.
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Linux users are entirely screwed either way.
I'm kidding.
First, it assumes that somehow the theory of evolution, which has held up for 150+ years, is a tenuous set of ideas, especially in comparison to other parts of the scientific cannon. It gives evolution a position that makes it appear less valid than other scientific theories such as electromagnatism, gravity, and chemistry.
Second, it introduces doubt and confusion in students about not only evolution, but the scientific method entirely by confusing the meaning of the word theory.
Your argument continues to do what other Creation-Scientists, ID or whatever you're ilk are calling themselves, have done: you confuse theory and the scientific method with conjucture and supposition and, even religion.
If ID people really believed in their faith, they would persue the strict teaching of the scientific method and evolution allowing their kids to decide on what they want to believe.
Second, congrats at being an Americasn {sic} who is good at math and science, but it also be nice if you could write a coherent sentence with real punctuation.
I'm an American and I love my country, but people like you--an antagonistic fuckwit who is too busy to bother being polite and articulate--embarrass this country and I'm sick of seeing posts like this.
However, an embedded system (OS) could be very reliable if relegated to the workings of the car and it's entertainment system, but keeping the car from crashing? We can't even get a vehicle to drive out in the desert and not fall into a ravine, so I think we're a long way from getting a system that can deal with the myriad of choices and reactions necessary to drive in a modern city. And, MS is far too interested in extending Windows to do this properly.
Couldn't it be possible that the Windows system, including Service Packs, is not the only way to develop and promote operating systems and Apple's way is just simply different from the Windows system and therefore you're comparison is flawed?
How much have you read about Tiger and do you understand that not only are there new features, but also some serious 'under-the-hood' changes?
Is it just distinctly possible that you don't know anything about Panther or Tiger and are just simply repeating another wonderful internet meme that will go round and round everytime someone mentions Apple?
And, Macs only have a one-button mouse and they're expensive, and Al Gore claimed he invented the internet. See sig.
I wish I had mod points that was funny as hell.
How much memory did that iMac have?
waiting the requisite 14 seconds, so I'll just point out that designer yuppie shit is exactly what the parent poster was talking about.
Perhaps, the problem is with the term 'unauthorized' which is often used to promote poorly written and nearly libelous accounts of people's lives full of threadbare research that is made merely to make a great sum of money out of the empty-headed mob that make up celebrity worship. You seem them on the checkout stand at the local grocery.
However, Jobs is just reacting as a typical egomaniac would, furious that someone would write a book without his express approval. I do think the title is ill-considered, because iCon has both the meaning of icon and I Con (you?).
And, yep you're right, Wiley will make more money now than by selling the book at Apple Stores. First rule of PR, never make a big stink about anything you don't want anyone to notice.
Seriously, it is entirely possible, and even a sign of intelligence to be able to hold two intellectually opposing ideas in your head at the same time.
For example:
- Apple and OSX is good, but...
- MS is evil because of Windows which blows, however Xbox Live is remarkably well-made, and frankly if those engineers were put in charge Windows might start sucking less.
Flame wars are part of discussions on the internet unfortunately, where people are anonymous--how many flames are started or furthered by ACs?--and therefore much braver than they would normally be.
But, I agree the mods are just using the system to hammer opposing opinions; I find myself modding a lot of content 'redundant.'
Oh not this little bourbon again...a school's job is not to teach people to be little software drones, it's job is to instill critical thinking, knowledge, and ethics. Furthermore, the kid if properly taught will be able to quickly adapt to the brand-new MS Office which is somthing employers are really looking for: intelligence and adaptability. If a graduating student cannot get a job simply because he does not know Office than we should abandon the school system entirely and just simple hand-out MS manuals. There is more to knowledge than knowing how to dismiss Clippy with the right combinations.
But most students don't turn in papers with 'custom work' rather they create documents that, except for some minor font changes, could have been done on a typewriter. OpenOffice should be a fine change in a computer lab, with a few legacy copies of Office kept around to ensure compatibility. Frankly, even with Word you can run into problems with students who are still using WordPerfect, WordStar or some other ancient program. There are benefits to using industry-standard standards, not programs.
And yet, even if your critiques are true Kerry actually served and saw combat, unlike a certain National Guard dropout who couldn't be bothered to finish his required term.
Well, if it's like everything else: Google Maps for example, than Mac/Linux versions are on their way. In this case I would think it would behoove Google to get Mac users up sooner because, as you pointed out, they have more self-produced video content.
Remember that Apple often restricts iTunes because of a demand by the RIAA, so the fact that we still have a good system of actual rights with digital music is at least partly by the work of Apple.
I think if able to Apple would institute a transparent DRM system that was as fair as possible if given the opportunity. On the other hand, Microsoft will lock down your computer so much so you'll have to ask permission from someone in Bangalore before you can burn a CD.
I still think OSX offers some real extras that you've given up in exhange for arguably better hardware. Macs aren't even in the x86 market, so while we could argue to the crack of doom about which is faster, I would point out that user experience is also key. Maybe you could take that $350, keep in it the bank for a bit, and spend $500 on a Mac Mini to get an idea of how cool OSX is.
Sometimes quality is hard to quantify.
I've been really impressed with the wide swaths of people using OSX to do radically different things, from genetic research to cleaning up old movie negatives, from UNIX coding to setting up a wireless network in a few minutes.
And, yep Apple's laptops are very competitive.
Tell her about iLife, including the ability to make movies very easily, or iTunes, which is a really cool program, or Safari (cousin to Firefox) and how you don't have to worry about the associated costs of programs to protect your computer from spyware, viruses, and other fun malware. And, you can use any USB keyboard and mouse (even, gasp! a multi-button one, which can be had for like $19). The Mac Mini is tiny and silent to boot. Take her to an Apple Store or retailer, let her look at it, then be a man and buy the thing anyway, her opinion be damned.
Clear channel has killed radio and for the rare song that's actually good I've already been listening to it for months.
Ummm no. The Shuffle can play playlists just as easily as the regular iPods, so you don't have to join all the tracks in a cd..together and make a single Mp3, that would be a huge waste of time.
The guy broke a NDA, he signed an agreement not to release the software. This is speaks to the one of the foundation of our society, the ability to make an hold to an agreement.
The ad hominem attack on Jobs is a nice little aside to the fact that the law recognizes agreements as important to the structure of business.
Plus, it has to do with karma, Slashdot currently sees MS and the RIAA as entities without karma, both have done so many stupid and malicious things that they can't help but react with pitchforks and 'effigies'. Meanwhile, Apple has created nice products without finding interesting ways of screwing its customers. That's the difference; you shouldn't have gotten Troll but rather Redundant for saying something that has been in every thread here for the last year.
Try to be more clever; like 'Reich-publicans' I like that.
I hate replying to ACs, but if you never noticed a single homeless person in Europe it's because your fricking blind or you spent all your time in the countryside.
However, you are correct about the differences between net income between Europe and the US, as well as adding in the factor that Americans typically work longer hours and take fewer vacations.
So, wait why are you a conservative?