This is a great theory as long as you don't care about having any evidence to back it up. I haven't seen any evidence that OSS will be blocked from running on a computer with TCPM. Just a lot of FUD to that effect. Doing something like that would basically destroy software development, open source or closed source, since every time I write some code I have to compile it and run it. If I can only run code that Microsoft says I can run, then after I compile, I have to ask Microsoft if it's safe? How will they know?
Besides which, your theory falls apart when you consider that there are major hardware manufacturers who are involved in OSS. Do you really think IBM is investing all the resources into Linux that they are just so that they can switch back to closed source software as soon as trusted computing becomes a reality?
There is also no reason to correct something which is universally understood to be incorrect, and for which the correct meaning is universally understood, unless you're a symantics nazi. Since being a symantics nazi adds absolutely nothing to the conversation, and in most cases, this one included, does not educate any person, in any way, about any topic, and draws only negative responses, it is no better than flamebaiting/trolling.
If you look at wikipedia, it lists three definitions for megabyte.. one is the one used by the person I was responding to, one the one used by myself. The "official" one is that a megabyte is 1 million bytes, yes, but the one most commonly used in software, and therefore the one people use the most is that a kilobyte is 1024, megabyte is 2^20, etc. Honestly, I don't really care which one the "official" meaning is, since trying to regulate language is laughable to me, especially when the meaning you wish to impose goes against the standard usage.
But mainly, I know they're both acceptable and I was just being a jerk because the person I was responding to was being so self-righteous about people not knowing tech terms. I love being a jerk.
For a programmer an improved operating system is one with less program faults, less resource requirements, and better performance on the same hardware. Microsoft seems bound and determined to go in exactly the opposite direction.
God forbid they write software that is an improvement to people other than programmers. And honestly, only one of the things you listed is high on my list of desires from an OS, even though I'm a programmer. I'd much rather have an interface that makes it easy to get things done, or an easy setup for my wireless network card, or any number of things other than utilizing hardware as efficiently as possible.
Hardware is advancing far faster than the demands software puts on it, for anyone except gamers and scientists. Windows XP is responsive on some pretty old hardware, as long as it isn't bogged down by spyware. Vista will have higher requirements of course, but then hardware will advance more and soon Vista's requirements won't seem very high.
As far as sending huge files goes, they still don't need to know the differences between file sizes. People shouldn't be sending large documents through email anyway. A few megs at the MAX. Public drives or a webserver for anything else and the users should be educated on that.
So, if they don't need to know the differences between file sizes, how do they determine what stuff they can email versus what goes on the public share? If you're suggesting that file size limits be configured on the mail server, that's all well and good, but you're saying they should be educated on using public drives and a webserver, which seems to suggest they would need to be taught when to use them, not just how to use them. I don't think educating them to just use the public drive when email gives them an error is a good idea, so you would have to teach them file sizes.
So, what's wrong with trying to destroy another company? Isn't that the whole point of competition? To drive your opponent out of business so that you can make more money? Slashdotters like to complain when markets aren't competitive because firms are too cooperative like the music industry, and slashdotters like to complain when the competition isn't friendly enough for you.
Honestly, who cares if Ballmer said he wanted to destroy Google? If I were a shareholder I wouldn't want him to be CEO if he weren't at least thinking it.
And, for the record, you cannot compare last-gen to next-gen in terms of pricing. It's going to be an entirely different ballgame.
Based on what? You can get an Xbox 360 that will play almost all of the games for $299. Sure, you'd have to buy a memory card but you had to buy a memory card for the PS2 which was also $299. The games have gone up in price 20 percent since the release of the PS1. That would mean a rate of inflation in game prices of 2% per year. Considering that the price of making the games has gone through the roof, the price to buy a game has stayed pretty even.
If this round of consoles is expensive, the last one was too. And yes, they are expensive if you want to get them right away. I remember shelling out almost as much to get my PS2 and the games and extras I bought (by choice, not because of a bundle) as I plan on spending to get my Xbox 360. I think I spent $560 or so on the stuff I bought for the PS2 on launch day. On November 22, I plan on spending something like $600 maybe $700 depending on what I decide to get. Plus maybe another $5 to get lunch on the way back from picking up my 360. I could easily stick to $450 and have a lot of fun with it though, assuming I didn't make a poor choice on what games to buy.
I'm surprised you didn't also point out that PSP discs aren't easy to damage, seeing as how you can't really take UMD discs out of their case like you can with CDs or DVDs.
And I hadn't heard about Megaman X on the PSP, that'll be sweet..
Why is it for people to go ape shit saying how great Nintendo is because of this without playing it but if I say I don't think it'll be good, I get modded down? Oh well, nine times of ten when I say things just to be an ass, I get modded up. Getting mod down once in a while won't kill me.
Damn you! How did you figure out that I really hate all innovation? I try so hard to pretend that what I really hate is people who get excited about something just because it's different, rather than because it's good.
I once had a friend in high school who wanted to dye himself orange, just to be different, and challenge peoples' perceptions. Because being different is great, right? That idea was retarded. The idea that this controller is good just because it's different is also retarded. If you want to argue it'll be better, saying it's different doesn't help your case.
If you think it'll be fun to control games like this, then that's super. I can't say for sure that you're wrong, but I definitely consider it unlikely that I'll enjoy it more than the controller's used for the current generation.
So call me a troll if you want. What do I care? I'll openly admit the main reason I post on slashdot is because I like pissing off fanboys of Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, Linux, and I like pointing out to people when the things they say are idiotic, especially if they're being sanctimonious about it.
So, if I don't like it, I didn't think about it? And I'm the one who gets modded as a troll. Jesus fucking christ.
So I move the controller in response to what I'm doing. Oh my fucking god. This must be the best idea EVER. BECAUSE IT'S FOM NINTENDO! Since you pointed that out, I just had an orgasm thinking about this fantastic new controller.
Wait, no, I forgot... Actually, I did think about it! And I am not looking forward to my arm getting tired from playing games for a few horus. I'm not looking forward to the added risk of carpal tunnel. I'm not looking forward to not having buttons. I'm not looking forward to have to hold a controller in each hand to have an analog stick. God forbid I move my hands too far apart and yank the cable between the two controllers out. I'm not saying it won't be fun in certain situations, but despite your super helpful comments, I'm not going to get at all excited about this until I see some great games for it that don't wear me out to play for more than an hour.
I didn't say it was going to be crap. I said I am very skeptical. I have what I consider to be good reasons for being skeptical. For example, my arm would get seriously tired holding it up if I wanted to play an FPS for hours, as I tried to aim at the screen. I don't really want another input device that requires me to move my wrist constantly and increase the chances of getting carpal tunnel. I think a lot of types of games will be limited by a lack of buttons.
Personally, even ignoring these concerns, I don't see how this controller would make things more fun. So for me, I see more negative than positive. So I don't see why I should pretend that I think it's more likely to be a bad change than a good one.
Screw innovation when it gets in the way of enjoyment. Just because it's different doesn't mean it's good and innovation in gaming has no value to me if it doesn't improve the quality of my gaming experience, and I'm not at all convinced that the Revolution controller will.
Obviously this isn't based on any actual information from Microsoft or the developer, but I'd bet on Ninety-Nine Nights being a launch title, because I've heard more about that than any other xbox 360 game so far. There's a lot of interest in it, so Microsoft is going to push hard to have it out as soon as possible.
So what would a language above knocking look like? Would it force you to use exactly the sort of syntax that the author thought "looked" the best, right down to the indentation/bracketing style?
I've seen beautiful but bloated Perl, and efficient but ugly Perl, and all shades in between. It's just a matter of compromise, and I for one like being able to choose where in the spectrum I want my code to fit.
Maybe a language above knocking would be one that didn't force you to choose between unreadable code and efficient code.
So if person P is skeptical of claim C about entity E, then it logically follows that P thinks that E "can do no wrong"? That sounds a like a fringe-whacko line of thought to me.
You don't really want to get into the business of pointing out wackos on slashdot. It's easily a full time job and it doesn't pay.
I think he might've been saying they're in that order in terms of quality, not popularity? At least it makes sense that way, even if it is completely subjective.
Umm... how many memorable new characters have made their debut on the Game Cube? As games mature, there become less and less new memorable characters, because games no longer require cartoon mascots. In ten years, who's going to remember who Carl Johnson is? I'd guess not many people, despite the fact that he starred in a hugely successful game.
The Xbox has a ton of great games. I'd still take the PS2 catalog over the Xbox catalog, but I'm buying an Xbox 360 because I suspect in the next generation they will have a better catalog. Apart from Halo. Just because Nintendo has more first party titles, does that mean they're more successful? They sure didn't sell more consoles. Excluding the GBA, but that's a different market altogether.
And if the Xbox was such a miserable failure, how about the PS2? The games people will remember from the PS2 era were made by Rockstar and others, not by Sony. How many memorable characters can you name from Sony's IP?
If you really think MS failed that badly in the console market, you are what is commonly referred to as a dumbass.
Even if a game company wanted to do this, it wouldn't help much, because a game company can only mandate the feature for their games, Microsoft can do it with for the entire Xbox platform. Even EA, if they wanted to, could only do so much because even the biggest company only makes a minority of the games. Even if other companies agreed to do it, there would be squabbles over the details, inconsistent implementations, etc.
And unless everyone does it, it doesn't benefit the people who do, so why bother?
All this adds up, i could build you a 800 dollar computer that would put any online console game into the 'shit' category.
For about a year, at which point it's just an average computer, and after another year new games start to run sluggishly. A console on the other hand tends to get better over the life of the console, because the games for it tend to get better but run just as smoothly.
But hey, here's a thought. Let's use some logic before we even get to that quest. Let's take the $500 console. Wait, it's $400. So let's buy a memory card. Wait, don't need one. Already got a HDD in the $400 package. Ok, let's buy a hard drive. Wait, already got one in the $400 package. Need more controllers. Wait, PC games require an extra PC for each additional player, so the $50 more for an extra wireless controller is going to cost less than the price of an extra PC, so there isn't much point in factoring that in for comparison purposes. So what's next? Overpriced games? $60 for a Xbox360 game, $55 for HL2 and Doom 3 at launch, wasn't it? Yes, those console games sure are a rip off. A network adapter! Oh wait, built in. A television... wait, already have one of those, along with everyone else in America. A video adapter (I'm assuming you mean the cables). Cables for HDTV and regular TV are included in the $400 package. So, what's our total price so far? $400 plus the cost of games. And you can build a gaming PC for what was that again? $800 plus the price of games?
So how about I buy an Xbox 360 and build a $300 PC that can do everything but play games just as well as your $800 PC?
Yes, because having to pay and renew sure did keep Xbox Live from becoming popular on the original Xbox.
After dealing with online gaming on both the PC and the PS2, I won't hesitate to pay a fee (one that is actually quite reasonable in this case, compared to say, the $15 a month that WoW costs me) to be able to play all my Xbox 360 games online on a polished service and be able to text or voice chat with anyone else on Xbox Live, etc.
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Besides which, your theory falls apart when you consider that there are major hardware manufacturers who are involved in OSS. Do you really think IBM is investing all the resources into Linux that they are just so that they can switch back to closed source software as soon as trusted computing becomes a reality?
What about Grand Theft Mario? Who needs all these kiddy games... and don't say kids, they don't matter.
There is also no reason to correct something which is universally understood to be incorrect, and for which the correct meaning is universally understood, unless you're a symantics nazi. Since being a symantics nazi adds absolutely nothing to the conversation, and in most cases, this one included, does not educate any person, in any way, about any topic, and draws only negative responses, it is no better than flamebaiting/trolling.
Who says I don't use a Mac? I'm sure I wouldn't be the first person on slashdot to own more than one computer.
But mainly, I know they're both acceptable and I was just being a jerk because the person I was responding to was being so self-righteous about people not knowing tech terms. I love being a jerk.
God forbid they write software that is an improvement to people other than programmers. And honestly, only one of the things you listed is high on my list of desires from an OS, even though I'm a programmer. I'd much rather have an interface that makes it easy to get things done, or an easy setup for my wireless network card, or any number of things other than utilizing hardware as efficiently as possible.
Hardware is advancing far faster than the demands software puts on it, for anyone except gamers and scientists. Windows XP is responsive on some pretty old hardware, as long as it isn't bogged down by spyware. Vista will have higher requirements of course, but then hardware will advance more and soon Vista's requirements won't seem very high.
1,000,000 KB = 1,000 MB = 1 GB
1GB = 1024 MB = 1048576 KB! Apparently one more unit of measurement isn't that easy.
So, if they don't need to know the differences between file sizes, how do they determine what stuff they can email versus what goes on the public share? If you're suggesting that file size limits be configured on the mail server, that's all well and good, but you're saying they should be educated on using public drives and a webserver, which seems to suggest they would need to be taught when to use them, not just how to use them. I don't think educating them to just use the public drive when email gives them an error is a good idea, so you would have to teach them file sizes.
Honestly, who cares if Ballmer said he wanted to destroy Google? If I were a shareholder I wouldn't want him to be CEO if he weren't at least thinking it.
But Google is a corporation! Doesn't everyone who works for a corporation eat babies?
Based on what? You can get an Xbox 360 that will play almost all of the games for $299. Sure, you'd have to buy a memory card but you had to buy a memory card for the PS2 which was also $299. The games have gone up in price 20 percent since the release of the PS1. That would mean a rate of inflation in game prices of 2% per year. Considering that the price of making the games has gone through the roof, the price to buy a game has stayed pretty even.
If this round of consoles is expensive, the last one was too. And yes, they are expensive if you want to get them right away. I remember shelling out almost as much to get my PS2 and the games and extras I bought (by choice, not because of a bundle) as I plan on spending to get my Xbox 360. I think I spent $560 or so on the stuff I bought for the PS2 on launch day. On November 22, I plan on spending something like $600 maybe $700 depending on what I decide to get. Plus maybe another $5 to get lunch on the way back from picking up my 360. I could easily stick to $450 and have a lot of fun with it though, assuming I didn't make a poor choice on what games to buy.
I'm surprised you didn't also point out that PSP discs aren't easy to damage, seeing as how you can't really take UMD discs out of their case like you can with CDs or DVDs.
And I hadn't heard about Megaman X on the PSP, that'll be sweet..
Why is it for people to go ape shit saying how great Nintendo is because of this without playing it but if I say I don't think it'll be good, I get modded down? Oh well, nine times of ten when I say things just to be an ass, I get modded up. Getting mod down once in a while won't kill me.
I once had a friend in high school who wanted to dye himself orange, just to be different, and challenge peoples' perceptions. Because being different is great, right? That idea was retarded. The idea that this controller is good just because it's different is also retarded. If you want to argue it'll be better, saying it's different doesn't help your case.
If you think it'll be fun to control games like this, then that's super. I can't say for sure that you're wrong, but I definitely consider it unlikely that I'll enjoy it more than the controller's used for the current generation.
So call me a troll if you want. What do I care? I'll openly admit the main reason I post on slashdot is because I like pissing off fanboys of Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, Linux, and I like pointing out to people when the things they say are idiotic, especially if they're being sanctimonious about it.
So I move the controller in response to what I'm doing. Oh my fucking god. This must be the best idea EVER. BECAUSE IT'S FOM NINTENDO! Since you pointed that out, I just had an orgasm thinking about this fantastic new controller.
Wait, no, I forgot... Actually, I did think about it! And I am not looking forward to my arm getting tired from playing games for a few horus. I'm not looking forward to the added risk of carpal tunnel. I'm not looking forward to not having buttons. I'm not looking forward to have to hold a controller in each hand to have an analog stick. God forbid I move my hands too far apart and yank the cable between the two controllers out. I'm not saying it won't be fun in certain situations, but despite your super helpful comments, I'm not going to get at all excited about this until I see some great games for it that don't wear me out to play for more than an hour.
Personally, even ignoring these concerns, I don't see how this controller would make things more fun. So for me, I see more negative than positive. So I don't see why I should pretend that I think it's more likely to be a bad change than a good one.
Screw innovation when it gets in the way of enjoyment. Just because it's different doesn't mean it's good and innovation in gaming has no value to me if it doesn't improve the quality of my gaming experience, and I'm not at all convinced that the Revolution controller will.
Obviously this isn't based on any actual information from Microsoft or the developer, but I'd bet on Ninety-Nine Nights being a launch title, because I've heard more about that than any other xbox 360 game so far. There's a lot of interest in it, so Microsoft is going to push hard to have it out as soon as possible.
I've seen beautiful but bloated Perl, and efficient but ugly Perl, and all shades in between. It's just a matter of compromise, and I for one like being able to choose where in the spectrum I want my code to fit.
Maybe a language above knocking would be one that didn't force you to choose between unreadable code and efficient code.
You don't really want to get into the business of pointing out wackos on slashdot. It's easily a full time job and it doesn't pay.
I think he might've been saying they're in that order in terms of quality, not popularity? At least it makes sense that way, even if it is completely subjective.
The Xbox has a ton of great games. I'd still take the PS2 catalog over the Xbox catalog, but I'm buying an Xbox 360 because I suspect in the next generation they will have a better catalog. Apart from Halo. Just because Nintendo has more first party titles, does that mean they're more successful? They sure didn't sell more consoles. Excluding the GBA, but that's a different market altogether.
And if the Xbox was such a miserable failure, how about the PS2? The games people will remember from the PS2 era were made by Rockstar and others, not by Sony. How many memorable characters can you name from Sony's IP?
If you really think MS failed that badly in the console market, you are what is commonly referred to as a dumbass.
And unless everyone does it, it doesn't benefit the people who do, so why bother?
For about a year, at which point it's just an average computer, and after another year new games start to run sluggishly. A console on the other hand tends to get better over the life of the console, because the games for it tend to get better but run just as smoothly.
But hey, here's a thought. Let's use some logic before we even get to that quest. Let's take the $500 console. Wait, it's $400. So let's buy a memory card. Wait, don't need one. Already got a HDD in the $400 package. Ok, let's buy a hard drive. Wait, already got one in the $400 package. Need more controllers. Wait, PC games require an extra PC for each additional player, so the $50 more for an extra wireless controller is going to cost less than the price of an extra PC, so there isn't much point in factoring that in for comparison purposes. So what's next? Overpriced games? $60 for a Xbox360 game, $55 for HL2 and Doom 3 at launch, wasn't it? Yes, those console games sure are a rip off. A network adapter! Oh wait, built in. A television... wait, already have one of those, along with everyone else in America. A video adapter (I'm assuming you mean the cables). Cables for HDTV and regular TV are included in the $400 package. So, what's our total price so far? $400 plus the cost of games. And you can build a gaming PC for what was that again? $800 plus the price of games?
So how about I buy an Xbox 360 and build a $300 PC that can do everything but play games just as well as your $800 PC?
After dealing with online gaming on both the PC and the PS2, I won't hesitate to pay a fee (one that is actually quite reasonable in this case, compared to say, the $15 a month that WoW costs me) to be able to play all my Xbox 360 games online on a polished service and be able to text or voice chat with anyone else on Xbox Live, etc.