Its a pity the US doesn't ask the russians to give them the plans, if they are so advanced and only money was the limiting factor then it would seem the perfect conbination if the US supplied the money and the russians did the work.
lets hope not. I mean a company, HOPING that the general population will steal from them in order to gain market share? What kind up stupid fucked up thinking is that? I doubt that will happen anyway once little Jimmy fails to install half life 2 on his new operating system.
"Does Quark still have a future or is the future Adobe and Macromedia?"
If you have to ask that, then you know nothing about the design industry. Quark is a superior product to its competitors, it has features that far surpass the next best offering (Indesign). There are plugins for Quark and other products written for Quark which you won't find for Indesign as well, a lot of which are very important, so important its strange how Adobe havn't tackled them yet.
Indesign can't touch Quark for its pagination features alone. If you have a complex print job anybody with half an ounce of self respect for their time will use Quark. With Indesign you have to jump through hoops as do the printers, they hate it.
I recently had a print job, a 32 page booklet using Indesign, I didn't have Quark at hand and damn using it is a nightmare. I had to re-arrange all the pages into a print order myself (Quark does it for you) and it was lacking features with sending the job to the printer. I wouldn't touch it again after that, not unless somebody wrote some decent plugins for it in order to get up to the standard of Quarks features.
Macromedia doesn't have anything on Quark either, they don't have a competing product. You have to remember as well that Quark is an entrenched product, design companies are reluctant to move to something else just because its shiny and Adobe gets chanting about it.
Quark were staggering around after they released an OSX version of their software (what with its crappiness and product activation). But they have since turned around since there backs were up against the wall with Indesign (it being bundled in a suite with the most popular image manipulation program). They improved customer support and now offer a student version of their software when they didn't before.
Quark has a future and always will due to the shittyness that is Indesign, nothing out there comes close either to Indesign, never mind Quark.
I don't know about openRAW but I use cameras which work with Adobes new open Digital Negative standard. Check out its FAQ sheet for cameras which support it. That fact that it is an open standard should be good enough.
The geeks have had enough of star wars you mean? The children love the stuff and the non geeks don't know any better, hence the massive openings for episode 3, big promo's and big sales of the DVD's and games. If people had had enough it would of bombed years ago. Get out of your bubble you have created for yourself.
there is no article or link, it was someting I had written out with the intent of learning more myself about how I and other "designers" could help. It keeps cropping up in discussions about poor UI interfaces and such and I thought it was time slashdot covered it and got a decent discussion out of it. However, since I got nowhere with it all I can do is bitch like an old bitter man.
I am sick and fucking tired of all these Star Wars stories, regardless of whether it isn't really about this film, its hidden underneath a technical issue with said film. Wouldn't of been posted otherwise.
I submitted a story which was much more worthwhile for a topic to discuss rather than *this* film again. It was pending for over 2 weeks and yet rejected, no story similar like it has been posted since so I doubt there was a conflict. This story addressed the issue of creative people types working for open source software, given that developers are not designers in the aesthetic sense. What could they do to help or get involved.
Why am I submitted to more bullshit worthless stories about a film rather than learn something new and constructive? Flame on bitches.
The whole "freedom" line was actually what I thought was a joke that I inserted into the comment, I expected my post to be modded funny and not insightful.
I didn't say they didn't contribute, I'm saying they didn't invent certain things, thats all, talk about misreading a post. Plus the GP was talking about inventions in the last century, so we are discussing modern examples FROM THE LAST CENTURY, not what the Chinese did (I know they did).
Plus all those companies you mention which have made computers what they are today wouldn't of done so without the initial invention and turning it into a useful application.
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ZosX, (just out of interest) why the relationship change? :-)
Your post is the most interesting thing in this thread. The rest is yawn worthy.
Its a pity the US doesn't ask the russians to give them the plans, if they are so advanced and only money was the limiting factor then it would seem the perfect conbination if the US supplied the money and the russians did the work.
I wasn't trolling. I thought it was his opinion again, something that Timothy does quite often. I missed the quotes, as did the moderator.
Type the headline and a short blurb and leave out the opinion. If you want yours heard, post it like the rest of us.
Not until the headline I read mentioned it!
lets hope not. I mean a company, HOPING that the general population will steal from them in order to gain market share? What kind up stupid fucked up thinking is that? I doubt that will happen anyway once little Jimmy fails to install half life 2 on his new operating system.
Using a cliche to open your post, how clever.
./ is a web portal for lonely people, why would i read that site?
You could get that guy who does all the intros for movies on this as well for extra fun. "In a world..."
Me brag about knowing the design industry, hmmm?
I don't care how long you done what for Mr AC, you still havn't given me a good reason for Indesign.
Beatles reference?
I notice you failed to list one reason why Indesign is better.
why it takes so long to issue a patch is because it takes 8 days a week for them to get off their ass .
"Does Quark still have a future or is the future Adobe and Macromedia?"
If you have to ask that, then you know nothing about the design industry. Quark is a superior product to its competitors, it has features that far surpass the next best offering (Indesign). There are plugins for Quark and other products written for Quark which you won't find for Indesign as well, a lot of which are very important, so important its strange how Adobe havn't tackled them yet.
Indesign can't touch Quark for its pagination features alone. If you have a complex print job anybody with half an ounce of self respect for their time will use Quark. With Indesign you have to jump through hoops as do the printers, they hate it.
I recently had a print job, a 32 page booklet using Indesign, I didn't have Quark at hand and damn using it is a nightmare. I had to re-arrange all the pages into a print order myself (Quark does it for you) and it was lacking features with sending the job to the printer. I wouldn't touch it again after that, not unless somebody wrote some decent plugins for it in order to get up to the standard of Quarks features.
Macromedia doesn't have anything on Quark either, they don't have a competing product. You have to remember as well that Quark is an entrenched product, design companies are reluctant to move to something else just because its shiny and Adobe gets chanting about it.
Quark were staggering around after they released an OSX version of their software (what with its crappiness and product activation). But they have since turned around since there backs were up against the wall with Indesign (it being bundled in a suite with the most popular image manipulation program). They improved customer support and now offer a student version of their software when they didn't before.
Quark has a future and always will due to the shittyness that is Indesign, nothing out there comes close either to Indesign, never mind Quark.
The irony of your statement...
I don't know about openRAW but I use cameras which work with Adobes new open Digital Negative standard. Check out its FAQ sheet for cameras which support it. That fact that it is an open standard should be good enough.
The geeks have had enough of star wars you mean? The children love the stuff and the non geeks don't know any better, hence the massive openings for episode 3, big promo's and big sales of the DVD's and games. If people had had enough it would of bombed years ago. Get out of your bubble you have created for yourself.
I gave a reply to the other guy regarding this story, check it out.
there is no article or link, it was someting I had written out with the intent of learning more myself about how I and other "designers" could help. It keeps cropping up in discussions about poor UI interfaces and such and I thought it was time slashdot covered it and got a decent discussion out of it. However, since I got nowhere with it all I can do is bitch like an old bitter man.
I am sick and fucking tired of all these Star Wars stories, regardless of whether it isn't really about this film, its hidden underneath a technical issue with said film. Wouldn't of been posted otherwise.
I submitted a story which was much more worthwhile for a topic to discuss rather than *this* film again. It was pending for over 2 weeks and yet rejected, no story similar like it has been posted since so I doubt there was a conflict. This story addressed the issue of creative people types working for open source software, given that developers are not designers in the aesthetic sense. What could they do to help or get involved.
Why am I submitted to more bullshit worthless stories about a film rather than learn something new and constructive? Flame on bitches.
There is a flaw in your last sentence, one should head for the asteroid belt with Bruce Willis and drill the rock!
The whole "freedom" line was actually what I thought was a joke that I inserted into the comment, I expected my post to be modded funny and not insightful.
Plus all those companies you mention which have made computers what they are today wouldn't of done so without the initial invention and turning it into a useful application.