Hmmm, testy. I was simply saying howing a closed but fair system was working for them. Just like the mac, it doesn't support tons of differing hardware so works better than MS's system of many hardware and making it compatible. Whether I support Apple or not has nothing to do with it.
that most of the problems lies with using wma files, a lot of iTunes users there are happy. In this case, a closed, simple but fair system seems to be working well.
Thats a side issue and nothing to do with the topic at hand, I was being specific with regard to ownership between the customer and Nikon, but you are correct.
In addition, its supposed to replace the various types of RAW into one standard making it easier for photographers to do their work without worrying about incompatiblities.
Oh I agree, but they had to wait for him to enter the states before arresting him. This is the basis for my original post, if he could do it out of the states then so could Adobe, but as somebody pointed out, the DMCA would still apply to them because the company is still in the US regardless of whether they break the encryption on non-US soil.
You dick, how the fuck do you pirate your own material? Guess what, when you click the button on the camera, the image you take is yours, not Nikons. Its nothing to do with ethics, they'd do it if it weren't for the DMCA.
But it doesn't matter if they broke the law where its unapplicable? Remember the guy who broke the encryption on Adobe E-books? He did it in Russia and if he never went stateside he would never of been arrested.
Why doesn't Adobe just break the encryption outside of the United States, and keep all the infringing information on non-US servers so they cannot be sued for breaking the law in the US. I'm sure other people work around the DMCA in the same way?
Dude, why you made me a foe? I was being funny, I got a genuine laugh out of your post because its sadly true. Damn mods should of modded me offtopic not troll!
Good point, can see why the Next developers didn't want it but from personal experience, I can say I have had no trouble with it and like it as it is. Then again I am on a 12" iBook... small screen and all!:)
I wonder if the black suits are at the door now because of your dissent? I had a laugh anyway so remember that in jail when bubba is stroking your hair!
The menu at the top makes perfect sense when it comes to good UI. All the menus come down, no matter the program. MS made theirs go on the bottom (distancing it from the mac btw on purpose) and because of that, you have menus come up from the top and the bottom.
Of course, Fidel Catsro knows all about legal threats and what not! I bet this pales in comparision to the cuban missle crisis hey Fidel? I knew infamous people posted here like Wil Weeton, William Shatner, RMS and Linus but you sir are the best yet, may you rule Cuba for another 40 more years. Thankyou for taking the time to support of yet another minority group, the mac users. I know you must be busy in your country as well so my adoration will be short and sweet. Maybe there is sanctuary in your country for us. You don't support dracionan laws like the DMCA, nor sue filesharers who like listening to music, corporations don't seem to have a foothold in your country either. I would like to share in your paradise please.
If I am wrong then thats okay with me, I'm just trying to point out that what Xerox started or what Doug Englebart started had been continued with by Apple back then.
I'm going to nitpick your nitpick, but the original license for the GUI from Xerox was way back in 1980 something, plus Apple did license the GUI to MS for windows 1.0. A loophole allowed MS to use it for future versions, something which Apple took them to court over and lost. You are talking about later events in Apples history.
The GUI is Xerox's idea, they had the basics, with drag and drop and clicking on icons, the desktop metaphor is Apples idea where you have a trashcan and folders and the finder.
If you go to Applefolklore.org, they have a ton of stories there about the incident, not saying thats where I got my info, its just a nice place to read sometimes. Back then btw when Xerox demo'd it to Apple, Steve Jobs wasn't actually interested in seeing what they were doing, he was repeatedly asked to go on the demo and its a good job he did in the end!
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Dude THAT'S innovation! Scroll bars INSIDE menu's!
The first screen shot is in monochrome, the original Macintosh had more shades of grey than this! :)
Hmmm, testy. I was simply saying howing a closed but fair system was working for them. Just like the mac, it doesn't support tons of differing hardware so works better than MS's system of many hardware and making it compatible. Whether I support Apple or not has nothing to do with it.
that most of the problems lies with using wma files, a lot of iTunes users there are happy. In this case, a closed, simple but fair system seems to be working well.
Thats a side issue and nothing to do with the topic at hand, I was being specific with regard to ownership between the customer and Nikon, but you are correct.
In addition, its supposed to replace the various types of RAW into one standard making it easier for photographers to do their work without worrying about incompatiblities.
Oh I agree, but they had to wait for him to enter the states before arresting him. This is the basis for my original post, if he could do it out of the states then so could Adobe, but as somebody pointed out, the DMCA would still apply to them because the company is still in the US regardless of whether they break the encryption on non-US soil.
Oh okay, just wanted to know more clearly as I don't live in the US anyway, thanks.
Nikon has competition, Adobe just bought theirs out. Who do you think will suffer over a format tussle?
You dick, how the fuck do you pirate your own material? Guess what, when you click the button on the camera, the image you take is yours, not Nikons. Its nothing to do with ethics, they'd do it if it weren't for the DMCA.
But it doesn't matter if they broke the law where its unapplicable? Remember the guy who broke the encryption on Adobe E-books? He did it in Russia and if he never went stateside he would never of been arrested.
Why doesn't Adobe just break the encryption outside of the United States, and keep all the infringing information on non-US servers so they cannot be sued for breaking the law in the US. I'm sure other people work around the DMCA in the same way?
I know you get the same problem, I checked and read your comment history... :)
Dude, why you made me a foe? I was being funny, I got a genuine laugh out of your post because its sadly true. Damn mods should of modded me offtopic not troll!
Good point, can see why the Next developers didn't want it but from personal experience, I can say I have had no trouble with it and like it as it is. Then again I am on a 12" iBook... small screen and all! :)
I wonder if the black suits are at the door now because of your dissent? I had a laugh anyway so remember that in jail when bubba is stroking your hair!
The menu at the top makes perfect sense when it comes to good UI. All the menus come down, no matter the program. MS made theirs go on the bottom (distancing it from the mac btw on purpose) and because of that, you have menus come up from the top and the bottom.
Seems like a fair review, but what do you think of rice burners?
Of course, Fidel Catsro knows all about legal threats and what not! I bet this pales in comparision to the cuban missle crisis hey Fidel? I knew infamous people posted here like Wil Weeton, William Shatner, RMS and Linus but you sir are the best yet, may you rule Cuba for another 40 more years. Thankyou for taking the time to support of yet another minority group, the mac users. I know you must be busy in your country as well so my adoration will be short and sweet. Maybe there is sanctuary in your country for us. You don't support dracionan laws like the DMCA, nor sue filesharers who like listening to music, corporations don't seem to have a foothold in your country either. I would like to share in your paradise please.
Best post of the day! Thanks for the laugh. I wish I could use it as my sig.
If I am wrong then thats okay with me, I'm just trying to point out that what Xerox started or what Doug Englebart started had been continued with by Apple back then.
I'm going to nitpick your nitpick, but the original license for the GUI from Xerox was way back in 1980 something, plus Apple did license the GUI to MS for windows 1.0. A loophole allowed MS to use it for future versions, something which Apple took them to court over and lost. You are talking about later events in Apples history.
Wow thats even worse than it being 2005.
The GUI is Xerox's idea, they had the basics, with drag and drop and clicking on icons, the desktop metaphor is Apples idea where you have a trashcan and folders and the finder.
If you go to Applefolklore.org, they have a ton of stories there about the incident, not saying thats where I got my info, its just a nice place to read sometimes. Back then btw when Xerox demo'd it to Apple, Steve Jobs wasn't actually interested in seeing what they were doing, he was repeatedly asked to go on the demo and its a good job he did in the end!