I object, on principle, to supplying perfect and complete analogies.
The real flaw in the analogy is that the consumers don't really care about the dead workers so long as they have access to cheap apples, so our scenario needs to end with an s--- load on apples rolling down the mountain and into the river to wash up on the beaches as smelly and deadly applesauce. If anyone wants to fix the analogy some more...?
I love where you're going with this. If you can somehow work Mardi Gras into it, I think a Pulitzer might be in your future.
You're confusing renewable resources with non-renewable resources.
No, the post I replied to talks specifically about blame. While I'm sure we can have a grand discussion about the merits and drawbacks of renewable vs. non-renewable resources, this specific thread has nothing to do with sustainability.
Instead of simply blaming governments and oil industries we have to think about our own desire to consume oil. We, as consumers, have a responsibility in this situation as well.
Let's say an apple farmer gives his apple pickers faulty ladders to work with and, as a result, dozens of workers every year fall and break their necks. Are you saying this would be the fault of consumers who purchase apples? Should people reduce their consumption of apples to fix this problem? Or does the fault lie with the farmer and have nothing at all to do with the people who purchase the apples?
Somebody at Google decided to write the function into the code and the database schema to collect and store that data - there is no possible way for it to have occurred accidentally.
You must have first-hand knowledge of this in order to make such a claim.
Or, you could have just answered his question in a sentence or two.
To do so would have been encouraging intellectual laziness. I expect the average Slashdotter to make a modicum of effort to educate themselves rather than posting a stupid question. In the time it took to ask the question and wait for an answer, the OP could have learned a fair bit and then come back with an interesting question instead of a stupid one.
For some reason, the United States is the only country on Earth where accidents don't happen – it's always somebody's fault, and you can sue that somebody for neglect.
OSI wants to be the One True Cathedral, through which licenses get handed down from on high. Google is taking a bazaar approach, realizing that they can use their own brains to develop a perfectly open license of their own -- a position that the Free Software Foundation agrees with. Having an open market for open source licenses threatens OSI's cathedral-based model so naturally OSI is attempting to quash such deviant behavior.
If instead of movies it was a pair of jeans or a car, even the kids would realize they are criminals. Put stealing on a computer and somehow some people think it's ok..
You mean I can download the pattern and required materials list for a pair of jeans and then make it myself using materials I purchase? Please tell me where I can find more information on this.
If someone has a place they can host a pdf of the glyph page as pdf that might be helpful, but unfortunately I'm not up on how to coax open source tools to generate pdfs with embedded fonts (up until now I always used LaTeX for serious math) - anybody know of a good way? Also be warned that offering up such a page for a slashdotting will be inviting a beating for a server and bandwidth - that'll most likely be a pdf with over 400 pages plus the embedded font payload.
When it comes to fonts, most people expect to see something along these lines:
Put together some representative samples of the a handful of typical glyphs and build a few images along those lines. If you want to upload a full PDF with embedded fonts, throw it on Scribd or use drop.io and let them take the beating... they're good at it.
Wouldn't it be better for Google make Android 100% perfect as a phone OS before branching out into other areas?
I suppose you think that Google should wait until Linux is 100% perfect before they use it to power Android, then wait until the hardware is 100% perfect, then test Android on the hardware until it's 100% perfect, then launch a product?
So what, you ask? Everyone thought Apple was dead a decade ago. Little did they know that Steve Jobs was merely pining for the fjords. And now he has reached the fjords and waved to Microsoft on the way by. Tie this in to Steve Jobs recent statement that he will reveal something surprising at the upcoming WWDC keynote, and this indicates that Steve Jobs will unveil a new product: the iFjord.
We're not talking 3,000 watts capacity, we're talking 3,000 watts 24x7 continuous draw, of redundant, backed-up power - the most expensive kind. Whole houses usually don't draw this much. And this is a *single* 42U rack.
What are you on about? 3kW is nothing and many 2 story houses running an airconditioner run 5 times that
You noticed that 3kW is for a single 42U rack that would have around an 8 square foot footprint? You could fit several hundred 42U racks into a 2 story house. Unless you know of houses with a 1MW power feed, your being unimpressed is, well... unimpressive.
I have this really great reply to your post, but it'll have to wait as Fedora 13 just came out and I have to upgrade as the older Fedora versions are no longer supported.
what about when the next fad comes along and facebook is forgotten over night?
If you subscribe to the theory that Facebook has built demand, then that demand (with the corresponding need for servers) will shift elsewhere. If it ends up being that a large part of the demand simply vanishes, then yeah... they will have overbuilt.
It's additionally about the same length as a 747. While saying "the length of a 23 story skyscraper" sounds impressive, it's quite a common thing to have in the sky.
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Your analogy is flawed and incomplete.
I object, on principle, to supplying perfect and complete analogies.
The real flaw in the analogy is that the consumers don't really care about the dead workers so long as they have access to cheap apples, so our scenario needs to end with an s--- load on apples rolling down the mountain and into the river to wash up on the beaches as smelly and deadly applesauce. If anyone wants to fix the analogy some more...?
I love where you're going with this. If you can somehow work Mardi Gras into it, I think a Pulitzer might be in your future.
You're confusing renewable resources with non-renewable resources.
No, the post I replied to talks specifically about blame. While I'm sure we can have a grand discussion about the merits and drawbacks of renewable vs. non-renewable resources, this specific thread has nothing to do with sustainability.
Instead of simply blaming governments and oil industries we have to think about our own desire to consume oil. We, as consumers, have a responsibility in this situation as well.
Let's say an apple farmer gives his apple pickers faulty ladders to work with and, as a result, dozens of workers every year fall and break their necks. Are you saying this would be the fault of consumers who purchase apples? Should people reduce their consumption of apples to fix this problem? Or does the fault lie with the farmer and have nothing at all to do with the people who purchase the apples?
Substitute farmer and apples with BP and oil.
Somebody at Google decided to write the function into the code and the database schema to collect and store that data - there is no possible way for it to have occurred accidentally.
You must have first-hand knowledge of this in order to make such a claim.
Or, you could have just answered his question in a sentence or two.
To do so would have been encouraging intellectual laziness. I expect the average Slashdotter to make a modicum of effort to educate themselves rather than posting a stupid question. In the time it took to ask the question and wait for an answer, the OP could have learned a fair bit and then come back with an interesting question instead of a stupid one.
For some reason, the United States is the only country on Earth where accidents don't happen – it's always somebody's fault, and you can sue that somebody for neglect.
How do you accidently collect wi-fi data through Street View photos?
That was a poorly written summary. You can read through the many Slashdot stories which covered Google's logging of wifi data if you need more info.
"Tastes as good as a pecker... really fowl"?
OSI wants to be the One True Cathedral, through which licenses get handed down from on high. Google is taking a bazaar approach, realizing that they can use their own brains to develop a perfectly open license of their own -- a position that the Free Software Foundation agrees with. Having an open market for open source licenses threatens OSI's cathedral-based model so naturally OSI is attempting to quash such deviant behavior.
You could pump the super-saline to many locations via small pipelines (with holes drilled lengthwise).
Is lengthwise not the traditional orientation of the hole in a pipe? Wouldn't make for much of a pipe otherwise.
The Gulf of Mexico is now a fuel cell.
If instead of movies it was a pair of jeans or a car, even the kids would realize they are criminals. Put stealing on a computer and somehow some people think it's ok..
You mean I can download the pattern and required materials list for a pair of jeans and then make it myself using materials I purchase? Please tell me where I can find more information on this.
If someone has a place they can host a pdf of the glyph page as pdf that might be helpful, but unfortunately I'm not up on how to coax open source tools to generate pdfs with embedded fonts (up until now I always used LaTeX for serious math) - anybody know of a good way? Also be warned that offering up such a page for a slashdotting will be inviting a beating for a server and bandwidth - that'll most likely be a pdf with over 400 pages plus the embedded font payload.
When it comes to fonts, most people expect to see something along these lines:
http://www.linotypelibrary.com/1563/universalmathematicalpi-family.html
http://www.typography.com/collections/index.php?collectionID=700007
Put together some representative samples of the a handful of typical glyphs and build a few images along those lines. If you want to upload a full PDF with embedded fonts, throw it on Scribd or use drop.io and let them take the beating... they're good at it.
Hmm, I'll have to email Comcast. Even after simply logging in, I get taken to the Manage My User Account section with no "My Devices" area (or meter).
Or maybe you don't want to if no devices effectively means they are unable to meter what your usage is, so it's always unlimited.
I actually want PointCast back! Any oldtimers here will remember the info-packed screensaver. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PointCast_(dotcom)
Wouldn't it be better for Google make Android 100% perfect as a phone OS before branching out into other areas?
I suppose you think that Google should wait until Linux is 100% perfect before they use it to power Android, then wait until the hardware is 100% perfect, then test Android on the hardware until it's 100% perfect, then launch a product?
Maybe you should take a few books as well, or better, read them before you move.
Also, be careful with your eyeglasses. If you dropped them, it just wouldn't be fair when you finally had time enough to read.
Actually, food is probably the exact worse thing to buy. It's perishable, with no inherent method to obtain more.
I don't know... how long does your dried pasta, canned spaghetti sauce, and canned tuna last before it perishes?
A wizard?
are you out of your fucking mind?
How else are you going to get a robe and wizard hat?
A novice had a problem and could not find a solution. "I know," said the novice, "I'll just use Perl!" The novice now had two problems.
So what, you ask? Everyone thought Apple was dead a decade ago. Little did they know that Steve Jobs was merely pining for the fjords. And now he has reached the fjords and waved to Microsoft on the way by. Tie this in to Steve Jobs recent statement that he will reveal something surprising at the upcoming WWDC keynote, and this indicates that Steve Jobs will unveil a new product: the iFjord.
We're not talking 3,000 watts capacity, we're talking 3,000 watts 24x7 continuous draw, of redundant, backed-up power - the most expensive kind. Whole houses usually don't draw this much. And this is a *single* 42U rack.
What are you on about? 3kW is nothing and many 2 story houses running an airconditioner run 5 times that
You noticed that 3kW is for a single 42U rack that would have around an 8 square foot footprint? You could fit several hundred 42U racks into a 2 story house. Unless you know of houses with a 1MW power feed, your being unimpressed is, well... unimpressive.
I have this really great reply to your post, but it'll have to wait as Fedora 13 just came out and I have to upgrade as the older Fedora versions are no longer supported.
what about when the next fad comes along and facebook is forgotten over night?
If you subscribe to the theory that Facebook has built demand, then that demand (with the corresponding need for servers) will shift elsewhere. If it ends up being that a large part of the demand simply vanishes, then yeah... they will have overbuilt.
It's additionally about the same length as a 747. While saying "the length of a 23 story skyscraper" sounds impressive, it's quite a common thing to have in the sky.