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Airship Inflated To Create Monster "Stratellite"

yoderman94 writes "A huge inflatable vehicle as long as a 23-floor skyscraper is tall has become the world's largest airship in its bid to serve as a stratospheric satellite, or 'stratellite,' according to its developers."

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  1. Let's get this out of the way by dkleinsc · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is the pilot named Cid?

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    1. Re:Let's get this out of the way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's hope it's not Dr. Hugo Eckener.

    2. Re:Let's get this out of the way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For readers who don't get it (I sure didn't prior to Google-fu)...
      Reference: "Cid's Airship" http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Airships#Cid.27s_Airship_2

    3. Re:Let's get this out of the way by Simonetta · · Score: 1

      Is this an American pop culture reference somehow related to lighter-than-air atmospheric transport vehicles? If so, then how about a link for all the Slashdaughters who aren't plugged into American pop culture.

          For me, reference to lighter-than-air atmospheric vehicles always invokes a reference to Bruce Dern's portrayal of John McCain in the 1977 film "Black Sunday".
      In this film, Mr. Dern plays a tortured Vietnam Vet Navy Pilot P.O.W. who teams up with a beautiful Swiss-Palestinian female terrorist to deliver a big surprise at the Super Bowl to all the little Moms and Dads and the kids sitting in the stands, eating their little weenies, and watching the big game.

    4. Re:Let's get this out of the way by Qzukk · · Score: 5, Funny

      Is this an American pop culture reference

      Given that Cid is the recurring character name for the airship pilot/mechanic/engineer in the Final Fantasy games developed in Japan, the answer is "it depends on what you consider American".

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    5. Re:Let's get this out of the way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Was that the one where the baddie tested his "new camera" by taking a "shot" of a hick in front of his barn door? Good camera angle, as I recall, what with the sunlight streaming through the numerous frag holes.

    6. Re:Let's get this out of the way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given that you also failed to link, here is Wikipedia. Cid Highwind.

    7. Re:Let's get this out of the way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Having seen the shape of that airship, I now see why it's called Final Fantasy.

    8. Re:Let's get this out of the way by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      goatse man, is that you?

  2. Why dumb down the article? by Keebler71 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Once again...thank you "press" for giving us useless measurements... is it's max speed measured in units of cheetah velocity, its volume measured in swimming pools and its weight measured in automobiles?

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    1. Re:Why dumb down the article? by Spatial · · Score: 1

      Let's be fair. They also specified the exact speed, size and payload in both metric and imperial.

    2. Re:Why dumb down the article? by Kilrah_il · · Score: 1

      Do you want it in Library of Congress units? (Well... you knew it was coming)

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    3. Re:Why dumb down the article? by Keebler71 · · Score: 1

      Sure... but why the need to constantly compare dimensions to other objects?

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    4. Re:Why dumb down the article? by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 1

      Do you want it in Library of Congress units? (Well... you knew it was coming)

      No, I want it in something to which I can relate... speed in furlongs per fortnight, volume in hogsheads, and weight in stone (the old school Chinese ones). I have absolutely no idea the volume or weight of a Library of Congress... though I do have a rough guess as to it's current velocity...

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    5. Re:Why dumb down the article? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most men can't even judge 6 inches accurately, so I think a reference can help.

    6. Re:Why dumb down the article? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most men thing 6 inches is, like, 10 or 12 inches. Most women know better.

    7. Re:Why dumb down the article? by Mr.+DOS · · Score: 1

      ...its weight measured in automobiles?

      You gotta admit, that one's perfectly acceptable on Slashdot.

    8. Re:Why dumb down the article? by Carnildo · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's also merely the largest modern airship. The Graf Zeppelin was three times longer, and most of the interwar airships were similarly large.

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  3. Units by codeButcher · · Score: 1, Funny

    as long as a 23-floor skyscraper is tall

    How many football field lenghts would that be?

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    1. Re:Units by diskofish · · Score: 2, Funny

      .78

    2. Re:Units by the_other_chewey · · Score: 1

      as long as a 23-floor skyscraper is tall

      How many football field lenghts would that be?

      Yes.

    3. Re:Units by Culture20 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      as long as a 23-floor skyscraper is tall

      How many football field lenghts would that be?

      ((10 feet plus 5 foot drop ceiling space plus foot of actual floor plus an extra foot for good measure) times 23 divided by three) divided by 100 equals ~1.303333333 football fields

    4. Re:Units by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 4, Informative

      (235 feet) / (100 yards) = 0.783

      Not even one.

      This may be the largest current airship, but the airships of the past absolutely dwarfed this. The Hindenburg was 245m (803 ft 10 in), or 2.67 football fields.

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    5. Re:Units by thrillseeker · · Score: 1

      American football or Metric football?

    6. Re:Units by hedwards · · Score: 4, Funny

      Would that be American or European football fields?

    7. Re:Units by Culture20 · · Score: 2, Funny

      American football or Metric football?

      As these were British units of measurement, it was clearly describing the field size for the game not played in Great Britain.

    8. Re:Units by kirill.s · · Score: 1

      About 0.356 furlongs.

    9. Re:Units by cmiller173 · · Score: 1

      You forgot the end zones, an American football field is 120 yards. (235 feet)/(120 yards) = 0.65277777....

    10. Re:Units by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice.

      Now how many "laser chopsticks" is that?

    11. Re:Units by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 1

      True enough I suppose. Are endzones generally included in "length of a football field" measurements? (not a football fan)

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    12. Re:Units by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 1

      I expect lots of fanfic about this craft: "1.097 Leagues above the Sea"

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    13. Re:Units by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's nice. Can you measure it in cubits?

    14. Re:Units by cdrudge · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No. Unless you have a smart ass that wants to get technical on you.

    15. Re:Units by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      360 ft for american football
      ~390ft for metric football.

      The airship is 235ft long.

      Correct football field lengths are .65 for American football, .6 for metric football.

    16. Re:Units by An+ominous+Cow+art · · Score: 2, Funny

      Would that be American or European football fields?

      I don't know that. Aaaaggghhh!!!

    17. Re:Units by Thanshin · · Score: 1

      I expect lots of fanfic about this craft: "1.097 Leagues above the Sea"

      Football leagues, I suppose.

    18. Re:Units by nedlohs · · Score: 1

      It's a stupid metric, even stupider than normal:

      Carlton Towers Apartments - 30 stories and 248 feet high.

      Al Faisaliyah Center - 30 stories and 875 feet high.

    19. Re:Units by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      Yes, it annoys me too, but whenever someone says it is as high as an X story building, they need to also mention "provided that the X story building has exactly 10 foot floors", as that is what the inevitably use for the floor height. At least in the U.S.

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    20. Re:Units by need4mospd · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's exactly as long as a 235ft long piece of cheese.

    21. Re:Units by Vintermann · · Score: 3, Informative

      This may be the largest current airship

      .

      Nope. The Zeppelin NT is 75 meters, 2-3 meters longer than this one. It also has twice the payload.

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    22. Re:Units by Bob9113 · · Score: 1

      This may be the largest current airship

      Correcting the original post more than your response. Just to clarify; this is the largest inflatable, not the largest airship. The old and new zeppelins use a rigid frame.

    23. Re:Units by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      As these were British units of measurement, it was clearly describing the field size for the game not played very well in Great Britain.

      FTFY

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    24. Re:Units by ImprovOmega · · Score: 1

      *shrug* 235 feet = 156.666667 cubits

    25. Re:Units by CWCheese · · Score: 1

      No. Unless you have a smart ass that wants to get technical on you.

      Well then, technically yes. Otherwise you could not have touchdown runs exceeding 100 yards, such as the 109 yard play in 2007 NFL season. Typically, football field measurements presume only the offensive field of play and not the scoring areas of the end zones, each 10 yards long.

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    26. Re:Units by Billy+the+Mountain · · Score: 1

      You are right. I was just about to write this but found your posting first. In addition to the Zeppelin NT being bigger and having more useful lift, it is also being operated commercially. I saw a photo journal of a customer's flight around S.F. It looks like airship ventures http://www.airshipventures.com/ is offering scenic flights in San Diego and San Franisco.

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    27. Re:Units by cmiller173 · · Score: 1

      If you simply do a Google search on "length of a football field" at least the first page of answers will say 360 feet.

    28. Re:Units by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      I've never seen 10 foot floors, because that would mean they're actually 9-foot floors, and they usually have to have a drop ceiling for cabling and pipes, so now you're down to 8 or seven feet (which is really short for anyone 6+feet). Of course, maintenance usually likes to crawl around up there so that's at least 4 feet for the drop ceiling, so now you have 5 feet for the regular office spaces. I usually see floors that are 15+feet tall.

      Too many people measure "floor" by "carpet to drop-ceiling" They should get in a stairwell and judge "floor" by "door to door", and they'll see that floors are much taller than they think.

    29. Re:Units by blackfrancis75 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      how many Libraries of Congress?

    30. Re:Units by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I expect lots of fanfic about this craft: "1.097 Leagues above the Sea"

      Football leagues, I suppose.

      American or European?

    31. Re:Units by ozbird · · Score: 1

      A huge inflatable vehicle as long as a 23-floor skyscraper is tall ...

      It's exactly as long as a 235ft long piece of cheese.

      Thank you; finally some units for real people, not Spiderman! I'll get the crackers.

    32. Re:Units by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      Well, this explains the "sharp" increase of prices for party balloon Helium...

    33. Re:Units by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't think they played either form very well...

    34. Re:Units by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Warning - you may encounter blue skies of death if you use it before version 5.

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    35. Re:Units by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How much is that in fridges?

  4. not largest by any stretch of the imagination by meekg · · Score: 1

    It's a large inflatable ship, but not compared with other lighter-than-air ships - here's one example

    Additionally, carrying one ton at 20,000 feet is pathetic, since the propulsion (and power storage) requirements weigh many times that, and if you try to go higher (to reduce the power requirements) than the payload capacity drops as well.

    Nothing to see here.

    1. Re:not largest by any stretch of the imagination by MBGMorden · · Score: 1, Insightful

      If you read the article, they kinda explain that it's the largest MODERN airship. IE, actually built and operational. It fully acknowledges that airships "back in the day" were much larger.

      Also, propulsion and power storage are not likely included in that 2,000 lb capacity. Aircraft specs typically state a "useful load" figure, which is what it can typically carry with it's own required weight taken off of the max gross weight.

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    2. Re:not largest by any stretch of the imagination by tronbradia · · Score: 1

      I think they meant the largest currently existing airship; the article explicitly mentions that the Hindenburg was much larger.

    3. Re:not largest by any stretch of the imagination by nacturation · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's additionally about the same length as a 747. While saying "the length of a 23 story skyscraper" sounds impressive, it's quite a common thing to have in the sky.

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    4. Re:not largest by any stretch of the imagination by Vintermann · · Score: 1

      If you read the article, they kinda explain that it's the largest MODERN airship. IE, actually built and operational.

      Yes, they do. It's kind of surprising they get away with that, since a bigger ship - and a real Zeppelin, not a mere blimp - is flying regular tours over the San Fransisco bay area.

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    5. Re:not largest by any stretch of the imagination by Patch86 · · Score: 1

      Although it's not. As already mentioned above, the Zeppelin NT is a little bigger.

  5. Deju vu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should call it Cargolifter. What could possibly go wrong.

  6. Oblig by Stenchwarrior · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    "as long as a 23-floor skyscraper is tall"

    How many libraries of.....

    ugh, never mind

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    1. Re:Oblig by natehoy · · Score: 0

      As far as I can determine, the Library of Congress is a 5-story building. That means that this is 4.6 LoCs long.

      More importantly, it is somewhere on the order of 42 Smoots.

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  7. Huh? by shadow349 · · Score: 5, Informative

    From TFS:

    stratospheric satellite, or 'stratellite,' according to its developers.

    From TFA:

    The airship is designed to carry payloads of up to 2,000 pounds (907 kg) at altitudes of 20,000 feet (6,096 m).

    From Wiki:

    The stratosphere is situated between about 10 km (6 miles) and 50 km (31 miles) altitude above the surface at moderate latitudes, while at the poles it starts at about 8 km (5 miles) altitude.

    Anyone else see the issue?

    1. Re:Huh? by drumcat · · Score: 3, Funny

      Clearly he didn't measure in football fields.

    2. Re:Huh? by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's also clearly not a satellite, as it won't actually be in orbit.

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    3. Re:Huh? by CannonballHead · · Score: 1

      It floats somewhere between here and the moon, in other words. ;)

    4. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone else see the issue?

      Yes: "Tropellite", while being technically more accurate, doesn't sound as good as "stratellite".

    5. Re:Huh? by Thanshin · · Score: 1

      So, the 'stratellite' is not a satellite and it's not stratospheric.

      It'd have been about as correct to call it the Maguilla, for Magma Anguilla, and leave the readers to imagine why on hell would they call it that way.

    6. Re:Huh? by Spazmania · · Score: 1

      You mean besides the fact that it only gets 2/3rds as high as a commercial airliner and commercial airliners don't get up in to the stratosphere?

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    7. Re:Huh? by natehoy · · Score: 1

      I'm thinking "High Altitude Airship" would also be a good term, but it's actually descriptive and not at all clever like inventing a nonsense word composed of the amalgam of two perfectly good words, neither of which even accurately describe the subject.

      I think we'll just call it a "Magiragon", which is an mushing together of the words "Magical" and "Dragon". Two other words which do not at all describe this craft, but sound good to 12-year-olds when you smush them together into a single word.

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    8. Re:Huh? by Derek+Pomery · · Score: 1

      "A Sanswire Stratellite(TM) is designed to operate at 65,000 feet"
      http://www.sanswiretao.com/

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    9. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Once again, we see 6 km = 6 US miles.

      Gotta love it!

    10. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Totally! Let me edit Wikipedia and change the truth to match...

    11. Re:Huh? by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      It's like calling these things that are called SUVs an SUV when they are neither sporty nor utility.

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    12. Re:Huh? by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 1

      I'm thinking "High Altitude Airship" would also be a good term, but it's actually descriptive and not at all clever like inventing a nonsense word composed of the amalgam of two perfectly good words, neither of which even accurately describe the subject.

      "High altitude airship" is usually a term for airships that go up to the stratosphere or higher. With a ceiling of 6km, this is at best a middling-altitude airship.

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    13. Re:Huh? by natehoy · · Score: 1

      I stand corrected.

      At a max of 6km (or a tad over 19,500 feet), you're absolutely right. These airships are barely capable of achieving Class A airspace (FL 180, or 18,000 feet, is the minimum altitude to be in Class A airspace).

      So "stratellite" is apparently intended to be double-speak for "High Altitude Airship", which the subject of the article is clearly not :)

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    14. Re:Huh? by natehoy · · Score: 1

      Yes, "stratellite" is a poor term for many reasons, one of which being that this thing will never reach anywhere near stratospheric altitude, one being that this is not a satellite, and a third being that it's just a goddamn stupid word to make up.

      However, commercial airliners routinely fly into the stratosphere. The stratosphere starts at under 33,000 feet, while a typical transatlantic flight would tend to fly at between 35,000 and 39,000 feet. Admittedly, they don't go very far into the stratosphere, but there are probably a good number of commercial airliners up in the stratosphere at any given time.

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    15. Re:Huh? by rta · · Score: 1

      They also don't specify what "80 mph" means. Is that indicated air speed or true ? If the top speed is 80mph true at 20000 that would mean less than 60mph near the ground.

      More importantly if you consider that 80mph = 70 kts so this thing would do well to stay away from the jetstream if it wants to stay in one place, even at full power
      http://www.wunderground.com/Aviation_Maps/Winds_Aloft/FL200-24.html#a_topad

    16. Re:Huh? by noidentity · · Score: 1

      Anyone else see the issue?

      Yes, the article lists the altitudes in feet and meters, while the Wiki lists them in km and miles. Unacceptable!

    17. Re:Huh? by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 1

      Yeah, basically, I think that the reporter has heard about high altitude airships, and just jumped to the conclusion that this is one of 'em.

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    18. Re:Huh? by Spazmania · · Score: 1

      I feel cheated. Flying to Hawaii the 767 only made it to 30k feet.

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  8. Let the naming ceremony beging by abbynormal+brain · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Great Big Suppository in the Sky

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    1. Re:Let the naming ceremony beging by Garble+Snarky · · Score: 1

      I think it would submerge...

  9. To Create Monster 'Stratellite' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Tokyo is so screwed!

  10. Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why?

  11. Re:Airship by Jeng · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Here I was thinking it wasn't a real airship yet because it sounds like they have only filled the balloon, but not attached anything to the balloon yet.

    At this point its just a balloon. It still needs its skin, engines, a compartment for pilot and or crew.

    They have the air part down, now they just need the ship part.

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  12. Several ideas by WindBourne · · Score: 0

    The first is that we need something like this to carry water for putting out fires. While it can carry a ton at 20K, it can carry much more at a lower altitude.

    The second thought is that this can be used to transmit power as this tech gets developed. It can either take it from space, or from a beam below and then re-distribute it. Where that would be useful is in Afghanistan, or in disaster area. IOW, it would be to our advantage to work this out so that we can beam say 5 or more miles, with at least 60% efficiency.

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    1. Re:Several ideas by triffid_98 · · Score: 1

      The first is that we need something like this to carry water for putting out fires. While it can carry a ton at 20K, it can carry much more at a lower altitude.

      I guess that rather depends on how quickly you want to douse that fire. Typically we want to put them out right away. Right away doesn't typically happen with a blimp.

      "Hello, airplanes? Yeah, it's blimps. You win!"

    2. Re:Several ideas by Neon+Aardvark · · Score: 1

      We already have airships that carry water. They're called clouds.

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    3. Re:Several ideas by tweak13 · · Score: 1

      I don't think flying a balloon into a large area of hot, unstable air is going to get you the performance you're thinking of. What's wrong with the converted tanker aircraft we have?

    4. Re:Several ideas by WindBourne · · Score: 1

      Out here in the west, we have LARGE forest fires. During those times we need to dump 10's or 100's of tonnes of H20 on it. This blimp that moves at 80 mph is more than fast enough.

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    5. Re:Several ideas by WindBourne · · Score: 1

      Far too little of water and at a much higher costs. This airship is using the engines just for forward thrust, not for overcoming the drag of lift.

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  13. Didn't we have these 50 years ago? by petes_PoV · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I remember the "Echo" satellites from the early 60's. their orbital times were even published in the newspapers and you could see them move through the night sky. I know you can see the ISS when it's around, but aren't these sorts of baloons rather old-hat now?

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    1. Re:Didn't we have these 50 years ago? by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

      but aren't these sorts of baloons rather old-hat now?

      Balloons are cheaper and retrievable.
      Which means the payload can be repleaced on demand.
      Best of all, it will never end up as space junk.

      High altitude balloons (which this isn't) are the new satellite.

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  14. Worlds largets vs TFA by OzPeter · · Score: 3, Insightful
    From the summary

    .. become the worlds largest airship..

    from TFA

    But even the modern record-holder for size dwindles in comparison to airships back in their heyday, such as the 804-foot (245 m) Hindenberg.

    There must be some strange use of the word "largest" that I don't understand

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    1. Re:Worlds largets vs TFA by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      Replying to my own comment .. I just realized that both comments are in the same article. So I'l change my statement to be that there are some elements of journalism that I don't understand.

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    2. Re:Worlds largets vs TFA by Jeng · · Score: 1

      I guess they mean the "largest" that currently exists. Then again its not even close to complete so even that one is pre-mature.

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    3. Re:Worlds largets vs TFA by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 1

      So I'l change my statement to be that there are some elements of journalism that I don't understand.

      Actually there seem to be elements of the english language you don't understand, specifically tense. Just because there used to be something larger doesn't mean this isn't the largest currently in existence. What you're confusing is "the largest" for "the largest that ever existed", or the record holder for the largest size. The article is correct. It just doesn't mean what you seem to have thought.

    4. Re:Worlds largets vs TFA by tronbradia · · Score: 1

      There must be some strange use of the word "largest" that I don't understand

      Largest as in "Largest currently existing" not "largest ever." For example, I can safely say that Great White sharks are the largest sharks, despite this.

    5. Re:Worlds largets vs TFA by cmiller173 · · Score: 1

      Lets see if I can put it in perspective. Get out your tape measure and go measure the Hindenburg right now. Or any other larger one right now. The story didn't say it was the world largest airship EVER. It is only the largest airship available right now. (for certain narrow definitions of available)

    6. Re:Worlds largets vs TFA by yotto · · Score: 1

      They left out the word "ever" for a reason.

      Who's the tallest person in the world? Is it the person who is the tallest right now, or the tallest person who ever lived at any time in history?

    7. Re:Worlds largets vs TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      No. Airship Ventures Zepplin NT is longer, and you can get a ride, too, if you're up for $499 / hr (!) http://www.airshipventures.com/comparison.php

    8. Re:Worlds largets vs TFA by bkr1_2k · · Score: 1

      Generally held usage of "world's largest" implies the title remains such until something larger comes along, not just until that particular thing is "retired".

      Semantics aside, the article is clearly wrong on several details that have already been pointed out.

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    9. Re:Worlds largets vs TFA by N0Man74 · · Score: 1

      But they didn't have lasers...

    10. Re:Worlds largets vs TFA by werfele · · Score: 1

      Generally held usage of "world's largest" implies the title remains such until something larger comes along, not just until that particular thing is "retired".

      Quick, what's the world largest land animal? I'm pretty sure most people will say "elephant."

    11. Re:Worlds largets vs TFA by timeOday · · Score: 1

      I was going to reply that although smaller, the higher-tech materials now available should result in a larger carrying capacity... but not so. The Hindenberg had a payload of 123.5 tons, whereas this new craft is limited to 1 measly ton. How can that be!?

    12. Re:Worlds largets vs TFA by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Just because there used to be something larger doesn't mean this isn't the largest currently in existence.

      No. However the facts do mean that. There are currently operational Zeppelins that re just a gnat's chuff longer.

      --
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    13. Re:Worlds largets vs TFA by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      There must be some strange use of the word "largest" that I don't understand

      That's okay, lots of people don't understand context.

      Some even think not considering context is the only valid way to (mis-)understand things! So it could be worse.

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    14. Re:Worlds largets vs TFA by cmiller173 · · Score: 1

      Yes, my point exactly.

    15. Re:Worlds largets vs TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hydrogen vs helium ? also altitude will make a large difference afaik hindenburg didnt go very high fully loaded im guessing this thing will beat it by 5000m or so

    16. Re:Worlds largets vs TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There must be some strange use of the word "largest" that I don't understand

      Means it's the largest airship in the world. Same way the elephant is the largest land animal -- it excludes the actual & proverbial dinosaurs.

      We haven't had large airships for about eighty years now. They're extinct like dinos, so technically it's correct, but contextually we really don't have 'airships' anymore, we've got frigging blimps. When you say 'airships' people think of the Hindenberg et al, so the submission is indeed a dick-move to generate clicks through false interest.

      Which, given this is /. ... isn't exactly a "strange use" but rather business as usual. But props to you sir for continuing to act as if one should expect better here.

    17. Re:Worlds largets vs TFA by Trogre · · Score: 1

      I suspect they mean the worlds largest current airship.

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  15. This will not PROTECT the environment by saurongt · · Score: 3, Insightful
    FTFA:

    "Our airships are radically different designs that move beyond the performance limitations of traditional blimps or zeppelins by combining advanced technology with simple construction and the ability to fuel with algae, protecting our environment"

    Fueling with algae protects the environment as much as buying a Prius. Alternative fuels do not protect the environment, they only reduce the damage slightly.

    1. Re:This will not PROTECT the environment by Thanshin · · Score: 1

      Fueling with algae protects the environment as much as buying a Prius. Alternative fuels do not protect the environment, they only reduce the damage slightly.

      Unless it's poisonous algae and it somehow kills all humans.

      Or, in the case of the prius... If it's a... hmmm... Decepticon that came to Earth to kill us all!

      Ok, ok, I know. My theory makes no sense. The cars were the Autobots.

    2. Re:This will not PROTECT the environment by jandrese · · Score: 1

      You know, a poisonous algae that killed all humans would be lauded as the savior of the environment by some.

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    3. Re:This will not PROTECT the environment by Thanshin · · Score: 1

      I just did so. Your comment makes me now think you disagree.

      I took it as a self evident truth. Kill puny hunams -> Environment is happy and can keep on with whatever it was doing before we started all that killing.

    4. Re:This will not PROTECT the environment by Solandri · · Score: 1

      Alternative fuels do not protect the environment, they only reduce the damage slightly.

      Depends how you define "damage". If you define it as "people shouldn't undo what nature has done" (ignoring for the moment that basically everything in nature undoes what something else in nature has done) then yeah it damages the environment. OTOH if you define it using a (more sensible IMHO) state-based system, then taking alternative fuel made from algae extracting CO2 from the atmosphere, and converting it back into CO2 just puts you right back at the original state things were in before you ever grew the algae in the first place. So there's no damage done to the environment. You're just (re)using the hydrocarbons as an energy storage and transport medium.

    5. Re:This will not PROTECT the environment by Darkman,+Walkin+Dude · · Score: 1

      How does that work, I thought algae were carbon neutral, in that they don't put out more carbon than they sequester. On another note, how possible would it be to build an airship of some kind that keeps itself afloat via internal algae tanks or a coating of algae inside the balloon, needing only injections fo water and whatnot?

    6. Re:This will not PROTECT the environment by Darkman,+Walkin+Dude · · Score: 1

      Environment is happy and can keep on with whatever it was doing before we started all that killing.

      What it was doing before we started all that killing was an extraordinary amount of killing.

    7. Re:This will not PROTECT the environment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The decepticons disguised themselves as machines of war, which isn't really that much of a deception, since they *were* soldiers. The autobots on the other hand disguised themselves as civilian vehicles and equipment and hid among the non-combatant population. Just like terrorists...

    8. Re:This will not PROTECT the environment by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      The cars were the Autobots.

      Huh?

      - Michael Bay

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    9. Re:This will not PROTECT the environment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, don't tell me. I consider humans to be part of teh environment so "protecting the environment" makes no sense.

      However, for the people who do mean that expression, I think killing all humans would indeed protect the environment.

    10. Re:This will not PROTECT the environment by lennier · · Score: 1

      So what did you do to protect the environment in this case?
      Well, the ship was towed outside the environment.
      Into another environment.
      No no no, it was towed beyond the environment. It's not in the environment.
      But from one environment to another environment.
      No it's not in an environment. It's beyond the environment. It's been towed beyond the environment.
      Well what's out there?
      Nothing's out there!
      But there must be something out there!
      There is nothing out there. All there is is sea, and birds, and fish.
      And?
      And 20,000 tons of crude oil.
      And what else?
      And a fire.
      And anything else?
      And the part of the ship that the front fell off.

      Ah John Clarke, we love you.

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    11. Re:This will not PROTECT the environment by noidentity · · Score: 1

      No, you've clearly got it wrong. For example, the local metro bus company tells me that I can help the environment by riding the bus. So, I daily ride the bus for hours around and around its route. I bet I've done as much as 100 normal people to improve the environment.

    12. Re:This will not PROTECT the environment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you are either oversimplifying, or wrong in this case. While you have a small point in that both gernerating the fuel and building the airship probably have some effect on the environment, the exact same argument holds for simply keeping a human in enough food to survive (regardless of the source).

      The largest single environmental problem with our fuel sources today is that they are dredging up energy and polutants that have been stored up over millions of years and using them in relativly short periods of time. In the case of fossil fuels this is releasing a lot of carbon that has been sequestered, noticably changing the carbon dioxide content of our atmoshere and oceans.

      However with algae produced fules we would simplly be sequestering and then re-releasing carbon dioxide that is already in the atmosphere, thus only using it as a storage cell for sunlight that is currenly falling on the earth (slightly delaying the flow of energy, but not changing the overall numbers). This is a huge improvement on what we have been doing, and could be a vast improvement on our overall impact on the environment (mediated of course by us just making more of ourselves... another conversation).

    13. Re:This will not PROTECT the environment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes and a bulletproof vest won't protect you, it will only reduce the damage from being shot where any of your vital organs are (except your brain)

  16. Monster by Propaganda13 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Am I the only one that started reading the title thinking they had made a giant airship that looked like Mothra only to be disappointed by the time I finished reading the title?

    1. Re:Monster by spydum · · Score: 1

      No.

    2. Re:Monster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nope

  17. Helium or Hydrogen? by bmo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What I want to know is if we're going to waste expensive helium on this or inflate it with hydrogen?

    Weather balloons, hobbyist stratospheric balloons, etc, are usually filled with helium. But the only rationale for using helium is that it doesn't burn. It's more expensive than hydrogen. It's less efficient than hydrogen, and we only have so much helium left. We're not sending up people. There is no reason to use helium, really.

    It's time to get rid of the Hindenburg meme.

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    1. Re:Helium or Hydrogen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed

    2. Re:Helium or Hydrogen? by Sockatume · · Score: 1

      Well, depending on the actual risk of explosion and the cost of the balloon and its typical payloads, it might prove uneconomical to use hydrogen. The potential for human tragedy isn't the only consideration. However it's worth crunching the numbers on.

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    3. Re:Helium or Hydrogen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      the Hindenburg was a thermite fire, not a hydrogen fire

    4. Re:Helium or Hydrogen? by g8oz · · Score: 1

      How about methane from cow farts/Taco Bell bathrooms?

    5. Re:Helium or Hydrogen? by vlm · · Score: 1

      and we only have so much helium left.

      We also "only have so much hydrogen left" since, with the exception of rounding errors, its all industrially produced by steam reforming natural gas, coal, oil, etc. You do the old fashioned "town gas" process, remove the yummy CO and unreacted N2 (and I suppose the one percent or so trace of Ar and friends) and whats left is .... H2. Oh there are some fine details besides that to steam reforming, but thats the basic idea.

      So you can fractionally distill He from natgas, probably powered by burning lots of natgas, or you can steam reform natgas to make H2, probably powered by natgas. I'm totally at a loss as to which will "run out" first or which is supposed to be more "environmentally sound-er". I'm guessing on a cubic foot of natgas vs pound of payload lifted basis, He production might use slightly fewer resources, but its a pretty tight race. An excellent homework assignment for the ChemEng slashdot set.

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    6. Re:Helium or Hydrogen? by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 1

      No need to start calculating here - He resources are severely limited, as not every natural gas reservoir is containing He in significant concentrations. The best source are still the gas wells in the southern US, though other producers have stepped up their yield lately. Helium will run out long before all gas wells run dry - at which point we still can produce hydrogen from electrolysis or thermolysis. Losing He as a lifting gas for lighter-than-air vehicles is a minor problem. I used to work with He-cooled cryomagnets, which will be a pain in the arse to maintain when you gotta switch to other coolants, probably to hydrogen. That will not only affect labs - think of MRI machines in hospitals. Also, think of its use as inert gas for welding, as component of air mixtures for professional diving and also for air mixtures used in intensive care respirators.

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    7. Re:Helium or Hydrogen? by mangu · · Score: 3, Interesting

      the Hindenburg was a thermite fire, not a hydrogen fire

      You have been watching too much MacGyver. Anybody who has ever worked with thermite knows how difficult it is to ignite.

      Even the Mythbusters have debunked that old bullshit about the Hindenburg paint. This story was funny once, it stopped being funny about the millionth time it was repeated on the internet.

    8. Re:Helium or Hydrogen? by Sockatume · · Score: 1

      You can also get hydrogen by hydrolysis fairly efficiently, which of course just shunts the energy renewability issue off someplace else, but means you don't have an issue with trying to maintain a supply of raw material. On an airship, hydrolysis could be a perk, because it'd give you a way to turn ballast into lifting gas plus breathing gas in an emergency situation.

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      No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?
    9. Re:Helium or Hydrogen? by flink · · Score: 2, Informative

      Elemental hydrogen is very easily gotten many different ways at various level of expense as it is one of the most abundant elements on the planet. Refining it from oil reserves isn't the only way. Electricity + H2O -> H2 + O is pretty well known.

      Elemental helium by contrast is relatively rare on Earth and is only got from natural gas deposits. The He in these deposits builds up over millennia as a consequence of beta decay of other radioactive elements. Additionally many refineries aren't equipped to process He, so a lot of it that is mined just gets lost.

    10. Re:Helium or Hydrogen? by N0Man74 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The earth only has so much matter left!

    11. Re:Helium or Hydrogen? by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      And we've just scratched the surface, what, five miles deep? Only 3995 more to go to see what's there.

      --
      “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    12. Re:Helium or Hydrogen? by tsotha · · Score: 1

      Actually, that not-burning thing is pretty important. There isn't anything you can make the envelop out of that will actually keep hydrogen from permeating through the walls. That means your hydrogen-filled blimp is always a spark away from disaster. Not a big deal at 20,000 ft, but who would want to service the thing while it's on the ground? I wouldn't go anywhere near it. Also, storing and handling hydrogen is dangerous and adds quite a bit to the cost of the ground operations - it's one of the things that makes the shuttle so expensive to operate.

      Everybody in that business considers using hydrogen at one point or another, and they always reject it.

    13. Re:Helium or Hydrogen? by Anachragnome · · Score: 1

      Correct me if I am wrong, but I was always under the impression that one of the reasons that helium is preferred is because there is less "bleeding" of gas through the envelope material, as opposed to hydrogen.

      For a long-term flight, this might be of crucial importance.

    14. Re:Helium or Hydrogen? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      You have been watching too much MacGyver. Anybody who has ever worked with thermite knows how difficult it is to ignite.

      I hear magnesium wire works. And the Hindenburg was built with a great deal of magnesium, not just in the skin, but in the frame.

      Even the Mythbusters have debunked that old bullshit about the Hindenburg paint.

      You are not permitted to cite Mythbusters as scientific evidence.

      --
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    15. Re:Helium or Hydrogen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not thermite again. Yipes. Just read this:

      http://www.airships.net/hindenburg/disaster/myths

  18. Obligatory Russian joke: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fuck, Slashdot can't understand cyrillic!

    1. Re:Obligatory Russian joke: by Kiuas · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      But in Soviet Russia, the cyrrillic alphabets understand Slashdot.

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  19. Airvertising in the near future? by blankoboy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If these huge airships become common place you can bet that it will not be long until we have 'airvertising' similar to what we saw in Bladerunner? I imagine a huge airship with a Geisha commercial plastered on one side.

    1. Re:Airvertising in the near future? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      As long as it's just a Geisha commercial, then it's OK.

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    2. Re:Airvertising in the near future? by blankoboy · · Score: 1

      But then it becomes a Geisha selling viagra and penis enlargements.

    3. Re:Airvertising in the near future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, they might put crazy stuff like "Budweiser" on the side and fly it around outdoor sporting events!

    4. Re:Airvertising in the near future? by Thanshin · · Score: 1

      If these huge airships become common place you can bet that it will not be long until we have 'airvertising'

      You must have a pretty damn good sight.

    5. Re:Airvertising in the near future? by jakob_grimm · · Score: 1

      When I think of advertising on an airship, I always think of the the one in Syndicate: http://imgur.com/YwRYY.jpg

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      "No prints can come from fingers / If machines become our hands." -- Jack Johnson

    6. Re:Airvertising in the near future? by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      If these huge airships become common place you can bet that it will not be long until we have 'airvertising' similar to what we saw in Bladerunner?

      From My Name Is Earl (News show "Inside Probe" investigates the disappearance of the Crab Shack owner, thinking that he was abducted by aliens. Michael Waltrip and geraldo Rivera guest star)

      "It was Aliens from the planet Goodyear!"

    7. Re:Airvertising in the near future? by tsotha · · Score: 1

      We already have blimps doing advertising at sporting events, beaches, and county fairs. How would this be different?

    8. Re:Airvertising in the near future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I ever see Enzyte or any brand of brats or hot dogs advertised on the side of a blimp, I'll buy whatever product it is purely because of the ad.

  20. Good news and Bad news by DesScorp · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "and we only have so much helium left"

    That's the bad news. The good news is actually two-sided. For one...

    For helium-3's true believers - the ones who think the isotope's fusion power will take us to the edge of our solar system and beyond - talk of the coming shortage is overblown: There's a huge, untapped supply right in our own backyard.

    "The moon is the El Dorado of helium-3," says Savage, and he's right: Every star, including our sun, emits helium constantly. Implanted in the lunar soil by the solar wind, the all-important gas can be found on the moon by the bucketful."

    So all of the helium we could need is on the moon, and if we can reach them, the gas giant planets. So the second part of the good news is that this gives us a real, economically viable reason to go back to the moon and stay this time... to actually build a base and commence helium mining and collection. And there's other resources on the moon waiting for us as well.

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    1. Re:Good news and Bad news by NevarMore · · Score: 1

      So we use the last of the helium on Earth to go to the Moon and get more helium so we can go back to Earth with more helium so we can go back to the Moon. Brilliant!

    2. Re:Good news and Bad news by Tekfactory · · Score: 4, Informative

      Helium-3 is not Helium like you put in Balloons, its the Isotope of Helium you put in Fusion Reactors and Medical Imaging technology.

      It is worth $46,500 per troy ounce.

      Hydrogen would be much less expensive for this application, and like others have stated if you don't paint the sides of the airship with rocket fuel, a rigid airship with segmented air bladders is pretty safe.

      Maybe we can even reopen the Blimp port on the top of the Empire State Building.

    3. Re:Good news and Bad news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can we just agree, up front, to not staff it with a series of short-lived clones? Clone tears are real tears!

    4. Re:Good news and Bad news by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

      And there's other resources on the moon waiting for us as well.

      But probably not whales.

    5. Re:Good news and Bad news by DesScorp · · Score: 1

      "Helium-3 is not Helium like you put in Balloons, its the Isotope of Helium you put in Fusion Reactors and Medical Imaging technology."

      True, but the article link indicates that good ole' regular helium is plentiful there too.

      "Hydrogen would be much less expensive for this application, and like others have stated if you don't paint the sides of the airship with rocket fuel, a rigid airship with segmented air bladders is pretty safe."

      You may be right or not, but if going back to hydrogen would usher in a new golden age of airship use, I'd be all for it.

      "Maybe we can even reopen the Blimp port on the top of the Empire State Building."

      I've dreamed of seeing that happen for years. I'm a big fan of the interwar period, where so much promising technology, art, and vision were born. Art deco skycrapers, beautiful bullet shaped trains, grand airships, the heyday of radio... if I could time travel, I'd be back in the 30's pronto-like. Look at our comic books of the period. The modern American imagination was born in the 30's. How fine it would be to see at least part of it realized again, if 70 years later.

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    6. Re:Good news and Bad news by dfenstrate · · Score: 1

      Maybe we can even reopen the Blimp port on the top of the Empire State Building.

      I seem to recall seeing a history channel story discussing that port, and recall that it was horrible to actually dock an airship there.

      ah well here's a relevant quote:

      One depression-era scheme didn't work out -- the plan to make the Empire State Building a blimp port in the sky. A dirigible mooring was built on what is now the base of the television tower. The idea was that passengers could fly directly into Manhattan, getting off at the ESB, rather than landing in one of the boroughs or New Jersey. Only one blimp ever successfully docked with the Empire State, and that was only for three minutes. Near disasters, unpredictable winds, and the thought of passengers walking a catwalk 1,350 feet above the ground scuttled the plan.

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    7. Re:Good news and Bad news by Sibko · · Score: 1

      The moon is the El Dorado of helium-3

      This is a commonly parroted meme, but it's simply not true. Helium 3 on the moon measures about 0.01ppm - you need to dig up around 100 million tons of lunar regolith to get one ton of Helium-3. Sorry to say, that's neither cost effective nor net-energy positive. The moon will never be mined for Helium-3. Ever. Especially not when there are multiple gas-giants in our solar system with Helium-3 floating in their atmosphere's that could simply be scooped up.

  21. Balloon? by wombatmobile · · Score: 2, Funny

    it sounds like they have only filled the balloon, but not attached anything to the balloon yet.

    Still time to rent it out as a condom.

    1. Re:Balloon? by bar-agent · · Score: 2, Funny

      Still time to rent it out as a condom.

      Finally, one that fits me!

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    2. Re:Balloon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      "rent" and "condom" should never be used in the same sentence

    3. Re:Balloon? by Phoghat · · Score: 1

      For whom?

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      Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
  22. Estimation inflation by N0Man74 · · Score: 1

    TFA actually has the length.

    By ignoring the actual length provided in and just relying on trying to calculate an estimation based included in the summary, which itself was used to give a frame of reference regarding the size, you've managed to *cough* inflate the size of this airship from 235 feet (72 m) to 368 feet, or nearly 37 floors! Uh-oh, here we go again!

    1. Re:Estimation inflation by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      You think I read the article? Ha! I blame the submitter for thinking that a skyscraper floor can be 10 feet tall. Floors in modern non-residential buildings are usually 15+feet tall, because they include far more than the normally visible space.

    2. Re:Estimation inflation by N0Man74 · · Score: 1

      The submitter was quoting the TFA, not making any estimation himself. TFA gave the length in both units of feet, and units of "floors".

      Of course, since you didn't read TFA, then it's easy to blame the submitter rather than the author of the article.

  23. You jest, but... by N0Man74 · · Score: 1

    American football fields do have end zones, while the other football does not. Does this factor into the estimation for the football field length conversion?

    Won't someone please think of the end zones!

    1. Re:You jest, but... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Rugby football fields have end zones, but they're called "in goal areas".

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  24. I Dub Thee.... by Theoboley · · Score: 1

    Hindenburg 2.0

    Destined to Fail

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    Stupidity only gets you so far, then you've gotta try
  25. Re:Airship by buback · · Score: 1

    It still needs its skin, engines, a compartment for pilot and or crew.

    They have the air part down, now they just need the ship part.

    Yeah, except that your totally wrong.

    read the article.

  26. It's a balloon by mangu · · Score: 1

    It isn't a satellite either, the proper name for that thing is "balloon"

    1. Re:It's a balloon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is a Derigible.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derigibles

    2. Re:It's a balloon by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      It's deridable - like you and the article you linked to.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  27. Re:Airship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    His totally wrong what?

  28. God Bless our Government Funding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Well, if it creates all those jobs in Alabama, it obviously qualified for TARP money!!!!

    And it is green!!!

    Two for the price of one.

  29. Black Sunday by Simonetta · · Score: 1

    Yes, You're right. I got a chance to see this movie again recently when I found it as a DVD on the shelf of the local library. It's a forgotten classic. The plot, editing, and pace is crisp and timeless. The characters are scary and cruel without slipping (too much) into over-dramatic parody. The issues and background is as relevant now as it was then. And it's fascinating to see South Beach without all blonde T&A and psychedelic colors that characterizes CGI:Miami.

        And speaking of hot T&A with not-a-little bit of B&D, Martha Keller's character Dhalia Ihad is one true bad-ass for the ages. "Zhere ahre no accidents!"

  30. any editing at all? by roman_mir · · Score: 1

    "A huge inflatable vehicle as long as a 23-floor skyscraper is tall has become the world's largest airship in its bid to serve as a stratospheric satellite, or 'stratellite,' according to its developers."

    - it is a single sentence, one fucking sentence. How difficult is is to proofread one stinking sentence? I may make construct an unreadable sentence in my comments, I may make grammatical or syntax errors, but it is a comment, not a story on the front page.

    What the fuck is "as long as a 23-foot skyscraper is tall"?

    1. Re:any editing at all? by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      Oh, Christ, I am also blind, not a 23-foot, a 23-floor. OK. So HOW FUCKING TALL IS IT?

      Apparently it's the second paragraph of TFA:

      The 235-foot (72 m) long airship, known as the Bullet 580, has a top speed of 80 mph (129 km/h) and can serve as a high-flying sentinel that stays aloft for long periods of time.

      - so why couldn't this be the first sentence and the short description on /.?

    2. Re:any editing at all? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're right, that should be "so long as a 23-floor skyscraper is tall".

  31. Hindenburg by G-News.ch · · Score: 1

    The HindenbErg, eh? I'd like that with my Cheeseberger in Pittsberg, before I lose all my money to a bergler, thx.

  32. Big Blimp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hi folks,
        Just pumping up a big bag full of air may mean something to the press, but it is a long way from that first step to a useful modern airship certified for public transport like the Skyship 600 used by Fuii Film to tour all over the USA and Canada. If you want to see more on modern airships try www.airshipblimp.com or if you just want a helium sniffing laugh try www.airship.me the worlds only lighter than air comedy site.
        Regards Bond, James Bond from the Skyship in A View to a Kill, the last Roger Moore Bonf film.

  33. I should get royalties for this... by Daswolfen · · Score: 1

    ... after all, I did this in a RIFTS campaign years ago to set up a global communications network for our group :)

    Yes.. I am a huge geek. Thanks for asking.

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    Don't rush me, Sonny. You rush a miracle man, you get rotten miracles.
  34. Re: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    /Ali-G/ Me thinks dat it iz hacktually pronunced "Satrillights" ... Bo /! Ali-G"

  35. largest airship ... not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At 72m length, this is tiny compared to the original Zeppelins. Hell it is even smaller than the new ones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeppelin_NT)

  36. Story... by scottwilkins · · Score: 0

    Is it me, or is this story full of hot air?

  37. Buy puts by Baldrson · · Score: 1

    TFA: "and the ability to fuel with algae, protecting our environment"

    All I can say is "short this now".

    Literally anything can have "the ability to fuel with algae".

    These guys are really reaching for the dumb money. That's a sign of desperation and/or a con.

    Of course, I may be unfair to these guys given the kinds of people the capital markets have put in charge of investments...

  38. Flying building... by ZwJGR · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one whose first thought at this headline was the flying party building from the Hitchhiker's Guide?

    I can't imagine that this new venture will be significantly more productive...

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    There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face - Ben Williams
  39. Re:Several (bad) ideas by Shihar · · Score: 1

    First, the idea of using this in fire fighting is silly. It can't carry squat. It has a paltry carrying capacity of 2000 lbs. My shitty 1998 Honda Accord could tow more water to a fire. On top of that, it is slow and I am betting isn't going to be such an awesome platform to fly over a fire with. This is worse than a normal fire fighting airplane in exactly every single way, which is faster, caries more water, and can quickly fill up in a lake and hit the fire again.

    Second, 20k feet up is more or less useless for "beaming" energy around. You are better off to just use a mountain at that point. As a bonus, the mountain isn't going to move and can carry a lot more than 2000 lbs of equipment.

    The only use this thing has is as surveillance or maybe as a transmitter for something boring like a cell phone signal. Even then, it is only good for temporary measures. At 20k feet it is going to be kicked around by the wind and need to constantly be expending energy to maintain its position. I would be shocked to learn it can maintain its position for even a week.

  40. Re:Several (bad) ideas by WindBourne · · Score: 1

    Look again. It says that it can carry 1 ton up to 20K feet. However, it can carry a GREAT deal more at lower altitude (read denser air). And this craft can go 80 mph. Fuel is a LARGE costs of fighting fires.

    How many mountains are there over Haiti? Or over Florida? Or over an Afghanistan base?

    What I find interesting is that you speak of beaming data around via cell, yet,think that beaming power is not going to happen? The fact is that beaming power is being researched and happening now.

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    I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
  41. SCAM by jroysdon · · Score: 1

    This is a scam just like the many stratosphere airship scam companies that have been around in the last decade or so. They have no working product. They have no customers. It's all just a scam.

    previous scam links

  42. 23 floor building isn't skyscaper at all. by Ux64 · · Score: 1

    In the United States and Europe now draws the lower limit of a skyscraper at 150 meters (~500 ft). I got my own two floor skyscraper! Or at least I like to call it as one, even if it isn't one.

  43. Re:Several (bad) ideas by SpinyManiac · · Score: 1

    You'll find that helium is a substantial cost if you use an airship to fight fires. Dropping a ton of water gives an extra ton of lift, which will send you quite a lot higher. To get back down, you can either force it down with the engines or vent lifting gas. A cubic metre of helium gives about one kilogram of lift, so that's a lot of helium to throw away each time.

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    It's never too late to have a happy childhood.
  44. Re:Several (bad) ideas by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    Dropping a ton of water gives an extra ton of lift, which will send you quite a lot higher. To get back down, you can either force it down with the engines or vent lifting gas.

    Or compress it. However, this is still a very stupid idea, because helicopters can carry a fuck of a lot more than a ton of water. IIRC water weighs about 8.3lb/gal and the most popular heli for firefighting can lift 2,650 gallons, or about 21,995 pounds of water. Firefighting airplanes can lift an order of magnitude more.

    So you get an order of magnitude more water by using a heli, and ANOTHER order of magnitude by using an airplane. What a retarded idea.

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    "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  45. Well, since you asked... by zimboptoo · · Score: 1

    Length: 0.49 LoCs ; Top Speed: 890 LoCs/LoC ; Payload: .0000026 LoCs ; Flight Ceiling: 102 LoCs