This isn't really an issue with the JDK. The source is available, and in fact, some distributions (gentoo) actually do allow you install the JDK from source.
Admittedly, it not released under an approved open source license, but it is not correct to say that you are unable to examine the source.
You can spin this stuff a thousand ways. That's interpretation for you.
The thing that it is really hard to spin (for me at least) is that Microsoft has some extremely dubious business practices and has used up any good will (again, with me) that they may have had.
And yet here i sit reading that you think that it's the fault of Sun that an agreement, signed in good faith, has not been honoured in the same spirit.
Maybe you did read it. It's like the scene in 'a fish called wanda' where kevin kliens' character says he's not an idiot because he has read neitzche and some bint tells him that it's not important to read it but to understand it...
Sun doesn't want to store your identity. Not having a single entity as a central point of failure for all account information is exactly why the Liberty Alliance was formed!
You might want to go and read the specs and learn about federated identity.
If you aren't in a position to build, test and deploy the code you are no better off.
So, you can look at the code? How exciting! What guarantee do you have that the binary that is later stuffed down your throat is the built from the source you looked at? None.
Sorry about this. Your swearing sucks. Instead of the rather anemic, "comment on fucking everything" you might want to try, "comment of every-fucking-thing". Reads much better.
Slashdot, one day at a time, raising the level of human discourse...
Scroll up a little and you'll see that Sun is *evil* too. Apparently that JSPA thing isn't worth the paper it's written on, that despite it being written by the combined legal teams of Sun and numerous competitors!
These days when i see a high numbered id telling me that it's not MS that i should be worrying about, i just roll my eyes and move on.... or reply if i've drunk enough.
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This isn't really an issue with the JDK. The source is available, and in fact, some distributions (gentoo) actually do allow you install the JDK from source.
Admittedly, it not released under an approved open source license, but it is not correct to say that you are unable to examine the source.
Hehehe. Insults from a AC.
Come on wideboy, jem for a swedge, eh?!
What he said.
You can spin this stuff a thousand ways. That's interpretation for you.
The thing that it is really hard to spin (for me at least) is that Microsoft has some extremely dubious business practices and has used up any good will (again, with me) that they may have had.
And yet here i sit reading that you think that it's the fault of Sun that an agreement, signed in good faith, has not been honoured in the same spirit.
Maybe you did read it. It's like the scene in 'a fish called wanda' where kevin kliens' character says he's not an idiot because he has read neitzche and some bint tells him that it's not important to read it but to understand it...
I think you are mistaken. You meant to say that you expect to be really surprised by the judges decision, when you've actually *read* it.
Interesting, my arse! More like, "misinformed".
Go and read the settlement (it's only 43 pages, think you can manage that with your attention span?) and then you might understand "WTF" is going on.
You've rather dramatically missed the point.
Sun doesn't want to store your identity. Not having a single entity as a central point of failure for all account information is exactly why the Liberty Alliance was formed!
You might want to go and read the specs and learn about federated identity.
If you aren't in a position to build, test and deploy the code you are no better off.
:-)
So, you can look at the code? How exciting! What guarantee do you have that the binary that is later stuffed down your throat is the built from the source you looked at? None.
False tranparency, a.k.a lipstick on a pig.
Sorry about this. Your swearing sucks. Instead of the rather anemic, "comment on fucking everything" you might want to try, "comment of every-fucking-thing". Reads much better.
Slashdot, one day at a time, raising the level of human discourse...
Scroll up a little and you'll see that Sun is *evil* too. Apparently that JSPA thing isn't worth the paper it's written on, that despite it being written by the combined legal teams of Sun and numerous competitors!
These days when i see a high numbered id telling me that it's not MS that i should be worrying about, i just roll my eyes and move on.... or reply if i've drunk enough.
I always prefered, "You go to bed with the pigs, you wake up with the pigs."
Pretty straightforward.
Bzzzt!
I thought everyone one knew the only thing ever invented in america was Jazz!
...and we'll see some cretin driving one of these down 101. Fucking americans; pretty soon we'll all be gagging on the exhaust of your "progress".