De Raadt wrote "OpenSSL is not developed by a responsible team".
On the contrary, I believe it was developed by a responsible team, that unfortunately made an error.
Most everyone have made errors, even if most go unnoticed and are essentially harmless. This one appears different, but I don't think it justifies De Raadt's moronic comment.
Over the last few centuries there has been a stereotypically romanticized view of the natives in the jungles and grass plains around the world as living in harmony with the nature, until the white man came. That pathetic misconception is perpetuated by their old wise men, typically alcoholics and in turn romanticizing anything from their grandfathers childhood. Good to see some white man high-tech arguments pointing fingers at the scum who'd better invent their own refrigerators before complaining.
I'm fed up with romanticized natives.
One other reason I think this sounds "very little" is that heavy elements need a successive series of star formations to be formed. So, 18 laps for the Sun since the dawn of the universe, as Patch86 mentioned, also sounds too few.
No, I don't have any better hypothesis. Yet, perhaps we are seeing a logarithmically contracted time scale once we look back in time and that such a phenomenon produce these effects.
"In physical cosmology, the age of the universe is the time elapsed since the Big Bang. The best measurement of the age of the universe is 13.798±0.037 billion years ((13.798±0.037)×109 years or (4.354±0.012)×1017 seconds) within the Lambda-CDM concordance model.[1][2] The uncertainty of 37 million years has been obtained by the agreement of a number of scientific research projects, such as microwave background radiation measurements by the Planck satellite, the Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe and other probes. Measurements of the cosmic background radiation give the cooling time of the universe since the Big Bang,[2] and measurements of the expansion rate of the universe can be used to calculate its approximate age by extrapolating backwards in time."
Still, the Sun rotates around the Milky Way center at a rate of every 240 million years; "Sun's Galactic rotation period 240 Myr (negative rotation)" according to Sparks 2007.
Well, does that mean that the sun only has rotated around the Milky Way some 60 times (four times every billion years), since Big Bang?
That sounds very little.
Could the universe be much older than estimated?!
Can anyone with more info on this tell me how this earlier paper is different - arxiv.org/abs/0907.0042
I certainly don't pretend to understand the content of the England/Michaelian papers.
But after a quick scan of Michaelian's paper, I think the difference might be that England's paper rigorously quantifies the theory mathematically, while Michaelian's paper does not.
One should check with xarchive.org (and elsewhere) which ip-addresses have visited Michaelians' article.
A few years back some Spanish researchers were caught tapping original data
"But now evidence has been offered that Dr. Ortiz and his group did access the observing logs. Prompted by questions by Dr. Rabinowitz of Yale, one of Dr. Brown's team members, Dr. Pogge, who maintains the Smarts telescope Web site, decided to investigate the traffic on the site. He found that computers from an unfamiliar address had visited the Web site eight times from July 26 to 28, when the Spanish group was making its announcement. Each time the computers went straight to pages deep within the site that described the Brown group's observations of K40506A. The first three visits happened a few minutes apart early on July 26, a day and a half before the Ortiz group made its announcement. Another cluster of hits came on the morning of the July 28 before the object was observed in Mallorca and Dr. Ortiz made his more complete report to the astronomical union. Dr. Pogge was able to trace the computers through the so-called IPP numbers, which the Internet assigns to each computer on it. Those numbers eventually led him to the Web site of the Andalusian Institute. Dr. Pogge said he gasped out loud when it popped up."
These things happen.
Nonetheless, Jeremy L England's article is plain sloppy research for not finding Michaelian's paper.
How many people work at the Google Product Office? Probably more than 300. 300 is not enough people to be labeled more than a blip on anyone's it-radar. Perhaps they were astroturfing.
"The sum of the system's various components--including its processor, motherboard, and hard drive--came out to around $1300. The most expensive component was its Zotac GeForce GTX 780 3GB video card--estimated at more than $500. It's important to note that the 300 Steam Machine units available today for beta testers are prototype systems. Specifications, and thus price, could change before the system launches publicly in 2014. It's also important to remember that several boxes will be available, featuring an array of specifications and price points. We've asked Valve to comment on the $1300 price point, but haven't heard back."
The Steam Box, a Gabe Newell subsidized bargain or will they just minimize profit as can be done to gain traction? Newell vs Jobs, I sense a difference.
(BTW, I still think Apple sucks, even if I have to admit the new Mac Pro design is nice.)
"Finntroll is a folk metal band from Helsinki, Finland. They combine elements of black metal and folk metal. Finntroll's lyrics are mostly in Swedish, the only exception being the song "Madon Laulu" on Visor Om Slutet. Finntroll's first singer Katla decided to use Swedish over Finnish since he was part of a Swedish-speaking minority in Finland and the sound of the language seemed to better suit the band's "trollish" outfit. Despite several vocalist changes, this tradition has continued. According to bandmembers Vreth and Skrymer, they took their name from an old Finnish legend where Swedish priests coming to Finland had an encounter with a wild-looking man who killed most of their party. The survivors came back bearing the tale of the Finn-Troll."
the street names above your head, on the street level? Or the distances between them? People may well just like to doze off, ignoring seriously irrelevant pieces of information.
Did these "cognitively active travelers" also know the telephones of those lived along their sublime subway line? Is the distance in miles or kilometers even a useful metric for distance in L.A.? In my mind minutes would be more useful. If these "cognitively active travelers" had been travelling these roads by car or bicycle before, yes. Of course they know them better than those who hadn't. What a flawed analysis to begin with. Why didn't the compare with people from Tokya and Ghana to see what their impressions were...
These "cognitively active travelers" sound like nut cases ready for Rainman 2. Maybe they should also include the authors of the actual article - Andrew M., Evelyn B. and Brian T.
"To visualize the relationship between Denisova and the eleven present-day humans, we used Tree-Mix, which simultaneously infers a tree of relationships and migration events”. This method estimates that 6.0% of the genomes of present-day Papuans derive from Denisovans. While this procedure does not provide a perfect fit to the data (for example, it does not model Neandertal admixture), it agrees with our previous finding that Denisovans have contributed to the genomes of present-day Melanesians, Australian Aborigines, and other South-East Asian islanders"
Ouch. Ok. So, here are the images of your Denisovans?
There were high-school computer classes already in the 1982. I know, I attended them. Now, more than thirty years later, with the advent of the internet on top it, schools and politicians still speak of computers as high-tech? In my world they're commodities.
"All this talk isn't about the military, but about the economy. Anything that can be used to give other countries an edge against the largest country's economy is going to be leveraged to its fullest".
There some problems with "largest country's economy" (or "largest country's economy"). From Wikipedia:
China is the world's second largest economy by nominal GDP and by purchasing power parity after the United States. It is the world's fastest-growing major economy, with growth rates averaging 10% over the past 30 years. China is also the largest exporter and second largest importer of goods in the world. China is the largest manufacturing economy in the world, outpacing its world rival in this category, the service-driven economy of the United States of America.
The relevant part here is that the US economy may be larger but much of is becoming people scratching other peoples backs; think of hair dressers, restaurants, banking etc.
CH: GDP by sector agriculture: 10.1%, industry: 45.3%, services: 44.6%% (2012 est.) US: GDP by sector agriculture: 1.2%, industry: 19%, services: 80% (2011 est.)
Oh, there is ample of oomph left:
The US has abundant natural resources, a well-developed infrastructure, and high productivity.[24] It has the world's sixth-highest per capita GDP (PPP).[2] The U.S. is the world's third-largest producer of oil and second-largest producer of natural gas. It is the second-largest trading nation in the world behind China.[25] It has been the world's largest national economy (not including colonial empires) since at least the 1890s.[26] As of 2010, the country remains the world's largest manufacturer, representing a fifth of the global manufacturing output.[27] Of the world's 500 largest companies, 132 are headquartered in the US, twice that of any other country.[28] The country is one of the world's largest and most influential financial markets. About 60% of the global currency reserves have been invested in the US dollar, while 24% have been invested in the euro. The New York Stock Exchange is the world's largest stock exchange by market capitalization.[29] Foreign investments made in the US total almost $2.4 trillion, which is more than twice that of any other country.[30] American investments in foreign countries total over $3.3 trillion, which is almost twice that of any other country.[31] Consumer spending comprises 71% of the US economy in 2013
Note that consumers spending comprises 71% of the US economy in 2013 and put that in relation to
US Exports: $1.56 trillion (2012) US Imports: $2.3 trillion (2012)
Slashdot Mirror
De Raadt wrote "OpenSSL is not developed by a responsible team".
On the contrary, I believe it was developed by a responsible team, that unfortunately made an error.
Most everyone have made errors, even if most go unnoticed and are essentially harmless. This one appears different, but I don't think it justifies De Raadt's moronic comment.
Over the last few centuries there has been a stereotypically romanticized view of the natives in the jungles and grass plains around the world as living in harmony with the nature, until the white man came. That pathetic misconception is perpetuated by their old wise men, typically alcoholics and in turn romanticizing anything from their grandfathers childhood. Good to see some white man high-tech arguments pointing fingers at the scum who'd better invent their own refrigerators before complaining. I'm fed up with romanticized natives.
Sorry, it wasn't Patch86 but you iggymanz who made that reflection
One other reason I think this sounds "very little" is that heavy elements need a successive series of star formations to be formed. So, 18 laps for the Sun since the dawn of the universe, as Patch86 mentioned, also sounds too few. No, I don't have any better hypothesis. Yet, perhaps we are seeing a logarithmically contracted time scale once we look back in time and that such a phenomenon produce these effects.
The age of the universe is according to Wikipedia
"In physical cosmology, the age of the universe is the time elapsed since the Big Bang. The best measurement of the age of the universe is 13.798±0.037 billion years ((13.798±0.037)×109 years or (4.354±0.012)×1017 seconds) within the Lambda-CDM concordance model.[1][2] The uncertainty of 37 million years has been obtained by the agreement of a number of scientific research projects, such as microwave background radiation measurements by the Planck satellite, the Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe and other probes. Measurements of the cosmic background radiation give the cooling time of the universe since the Big Bang,[2] and measurements of the expansion rate of the universe can be used to calculate its approximate age by extrapolating backwards in time."
Still, the Sun rotates around the Milky Way center at a rate of every 240 million years; "Sun's Galactic rotation period 240 Myr (negative rotation)" according to Sparks 2007. Well, does that mean that the sun only has rotated around the Milky Way some 60 times (four times every billion years), since Big Bang? That sounds very little. Could the universe be much older than estimated?!
You called me out, and ... I had forgotten I still need to keep my Dunning-Kruger syndrome at bay.
Can anyone with more info on this tell me how this earlier paper is different - arxiv.org/abs/0907.0042
I certainly don't pretend to understand the content of the England/Michaelian papers.
But after a quick scan of Michaelian's paper, I think the difference might be that England's paper rigorously quantifies the theory mathematically, while Michaelian's paper does not.
One should check with xarchive.org (and elsewhere) which ip-addresses have visited Michaelians' article.
A few years back some Spanish researchers were caught tapping original data
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09...
"But now evidence has been offered that Dr. Ortiz and his group did access the observing logs. Prompted by questions by Dr. Rabinowitz of Yale, one of Dr. Brown's team members, Dr. Pogge, who maintains the Smarts telescope Web site, decided to investigate the traffic on the site. He found that computers from an unfamiliar address had visited the Web site eight times from July 26 to 28, when the Spanish group was making its announcement. Each time the computers went straight to pages deep within the site that described the Brown group's observations of K40506A. The first three visits happened a few minutes apart early on July 26, a day and a half before the Ortiz group made its announcement. Another cluster of hits came on the morning of the July 28 before the object was observed in Mallorca and Dr. Ortiz made his more complete report to the astronomical union. Dr. Pogge was able to trace the computers through the so-called IPP numbers, which the Internet assigns to each computer on it. Those numbers eventually led him to the Web site of the Andalusian Institute. Dr. Pogge said he gasped out loud when it popped up."
These things happen.
Nonetheless, Jeremy L England's article is plain sloppy research for not finding Michaelian's paper.
The difference is that Jeremy L England has more influential friends within media.
Yeah, this is serious matter
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"300 posts to the Google Product Forums "
How many people work at the Google Product Office? Probably more than 300. 300 is not enough people to be labeled more than a blip on anyone's it-radar. Perhaps they were astroturfing.
Windows 8 (and the entire Windows 8.x by extension) may be the prime example of that.
That interface on a desktop computer may be worse than anything else built by Microsoft.
Yes, use the interquartile range instead https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interquartile_range
It is like the median a very robust method, not readily influenced by outliers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median
The median is wickedly robust, with a breakdown point at 50%, meaning that you can throw a huge a mount of junk data at it and it still doesn't care.
The arithmetic mean and the standatd deviation are both junk, often worse than the too-often-assumed-normal data thrown at it.
Hmmm. A Donald Duck pr0n version?
Wait, a pr0n version of Sherlock and Wa..., err, John Holmes? A century worth of speculations is over?
In a similar vein, there is a Gamespot.com comparison of the Steam Box price versus the retail prices of the parts:
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/steam-machine-teardown-reveals-1300-price-for-components/1100-6416814/
"The sum of the system's various components--including its processor, motherboard, and hard drive--came out to around $1300. The most expensive component was its Zotac GeForce GTX 780 3GB video card--estimated at more than $500. It's important to note that the 300 Steam Machine units available today for beta testers are prototype systems. Specifications, and thus price, could change before the system launches publicly in 2014. It's also important to remember that several boxes will be available, featuring an array of specifications and price points. We've asked Valve to comment on the $1300 price point, but haven't heard back."
The Steam Box, a Gabe Newell subsidized bargain or will they just minimize profit as can be done to gain traction? Newell vs Jobs, I sense a difference.
(BTW, I still think Apple sucks, even if I have to admit the new Mac Pro design is nice.)
From defencetalk.com (http://www.defencetalk.com/mission-completed-swedish-gripen-back-from-libya-37964/)
Gripen in Libya: "650 combat missions, almost 2,000 flight hours and more than 150,000 reconnaissance photos"
So, it does have some real-life experience too
Those facts make it sound like some "Anonymous Coward" on Slashdot. What if we all are suspects here at Slashdot?
Imagine if they had chosen Shuttleworth's os. Now they still support his os, but also many more, apart from itself.
Hail Debian, the mothership.
Here is their most popular video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGywo81G6lk
and the Wikipedia entry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finntroll
"Finntroll is a folk metal band from Helsinki, Finland. They combine elements of black metal and folk metal. Finntroll's lyrics are mostly in Swedish, the only exception being the song "Madon Laulu" on Visor Om Slutet. Finntroll's first singer Katla decided to use Swedish over Finnish since he was part of a Swedish-speaking minority in Finland and the sound of the language seemed to better suit the band's "trollish" outfit. Despite several vocalist changes, this tradition has continued. According to bandmembers Vreth and Skrymer, they took their name from an old Finnish legend where Swedish priests coming to Finland had an encounter with a wild-looking man who killed most of their party. The survivors came back bearing the tale of the Finn-Troll."
the street names above your head, on the street level? Or the distances between them? People may well just like to doze off, ignoring seriously irrelevant pieces of information.
Did these "cognitively active travelers" also know the telephones of those lived along their sublime subway line? Is the distance in miles or kilometers even a useful metric for distance in L.A.? In my mind minutes would be more useful. If these "cognitively active travelers" had been travelling these roads by car or bicycle before, yes. Of course they know them better than those who hadn't. What a flawed analysis to begin with. Why didn't the compare with people from Tokya and Ghana to see what their impressions were...
These "cognitively active travelers" sound like nut cases ready for Rainman 2. Maybe they should also include the authors of the actual article - Andrew M., Evelyn B. and Brian T.
Is the gallium heart Ig Nobel material or just an element like a golden heart?
From http://genetics.med.harvard.edu/reich/Reich_Lab/Welcome_files/2012_Science_Meyer_DenisovaSeq.pdf
"To visualize the relationship between Denisova and the eleven present-day humans, we used Tree-Mix, which simultaneously infers a tree of relationships and migration events”. This method estimates that 6.0% of the genomes of present-day Papuans derive from Denisovans. While this procedure does not provide a perfect fit to the data (for example, it does not model Neandertal admixture), it agrees with our previous finding that Denisovans have contributed to the genomes of present-day Melanesians, Australian Aborigines, and other South-East Asian islanders"
Ouch. Ok. So, here are the images of your Denisovans?
http://www.survivalinternational.org/tribes/papuan
http://www.survivalinternational.org/tribes/aboriginals
They look so kind! But, let us pray WWF and Greepeace doesn't get too involved in this. Or, in other words, How un-pc can this untangling get?
There were high-school computer classes already in the 1982. I know, I attended them. Now, more than thirty years later, with the advent of the internet on top it, schools and politicians still speak of computers as high-tech? In my world they're commodities.
Most people I have talked with are angry, but don't know how to act against it.
"All this talk isn't about the military, but about the economy. Anything that can be used to give other countries an edge against the largest country's economy is going to be leveraged to its fullest".
There some problems with "largest country's economy" (or "largest country's economy"). From Wikipedia:
China is the world's second largest economy by nominal GDP and by purchasing power parity after the United States. It is the world's fastest-growing major economy, with growth rates averaging 10% over the past 30 years. China is also the largest exporter and second largest importer of goods in the world. China is the largest manufacturing economy in the world, outpacing its world rival in this category, the service-driven economy of the United States of America.
The relevant part here is that the US economy may be larger but much of is becoming people scratching other peoples backs; think of hair dressers, restaurants, banking etc.
CH: GDP by sector agriculture: 10.1%, industry: 45.3%, services: 44.6%% (2012 est.)
US: GDP by sector agriculture: 1.2%, industry: 19%, services: 80% (2011 est.)
Oh, there is ample of oomph left:
The US has abundant natural resources, a well-developed infrastructure, and high productivity.[24] It has the world's sixth-highest per capita GDP (PPP).[2] The U.S. is the world's third-largest producer of oil and second-largest producer of natural gas. It is the second-largest trading nation in the world behind China.[25] It has been the world's largest national economy (not including colonial empires) since at least the 1890s.[26] As of 2010, the country remains the world's largest manufacturer, representing a fifth of the global manufacturing output.[27] Of the world's 500 largest companies, 132 are headquartered in the US, twice that of any other country.[28] The country is one of the world's largest and most influential financial markets. About 60% of the global currency reserves have been invested in the US dollar, while 24% have been invested in the euro. The New York Stock Exchange is the world's largest stock exchange by market capitalization.[29] Foreign investments made in the US total almost $2.4 trillion, which is more than twice that of any other country.[30] American investments in foreign countries total over $3.3 trillion, which is almost twice that of any other country.[31] Consumer spending comprises 71% of the US economy in 2013
Note that consumers spending comprises 71% of the US economy in 2013 and put that in relation to
US Exports: $1.56 trillion (2012)
US Imports: $2.3 trillion (2012)
Ouch.
This is a tempest in a teapot? Oh hardly.
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Sources
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_China
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_US
That would be not only awesome but soo unexpected!