"I guess you have never heard of a large segment of the computing world refered to as embeded systems."
Since we are discussing xml, I never considered embedded systems. I was simply responding to his statement that text was a sloppy way to store data. I wasn't refering to xml, just that statemtent.
I personally think that xml is well suited for very few applications. I've never found a good reason to use it over other, more conventional formats.
I completely agree with you, but that wasn't my point. I guess I should be marked off topic.
Yes, obviously binary == proprietary, sort of. But that isn't the problem with binary xml. A binary data stream of any sort has one glaring usability problem, and that is it is not transparent, but rather opaque I guess. What if I have data lying around from one of your apps that I have to recover? I could use your app, a heavyweight tool to find the data I want, or if I don't have it I might have to reverse engineer it. If you'd used a text format from the start I could have use my favorite editor or grep.
Why would you say that text is a slopy way to "define something"? I find that statement rediculous. Especially when you say that it is only ok for memory hogs. If you ask me, the transparency of a text stream far outways any cost in performance. But the truth is, there isn't much anyway. If you can develop a good parser (not that hard), the cost difference is negligable, if any.
Now this isn't true for all cases. For example, it would probably be silly to use a text format for a large, high-traffic database. like postgres or mysql. But for most anything else, there isn't any reason to use binary data formats, unless you want to keep something from your users, or at least most of them:)
a friend of mine said that he has saved the data of many people in the same situation by leaving the HD in the backseat of his car while he is at work on a sunny day. When he gets home, sometimes the heat will let it spin up just long enough to pry away any salvagable data. I know for sure that it has worked for him at least 3 times.
-kyle
you don't need to download all of the isos to install fedora. Probably the first two at the most. Just do a minimal install, and then use aptforrpm or yum to install all of the software you need from the internet.
-kyle
i think your solution conflicts with your signature... anyway
As an undergrad software engineering major, I find it very difficult to keep a regular sleep schedule. If I'm not doing homework, then I'm obsessed with my latest project, and the latter is amplified to the extreme, because it is rare that I don't have homework. Try and remember what it is like to be in our situation. You were 19 once too.;)
-kyle
I remember back in september, Tad Truex wrote an article about how he used linux to monitor the sump pump in his basement. He created a small device that made use of Lorentz Force, which he attached to it's power cord, and as he describes, "The voltage induced on the surface of the conductor in this direction is proportional to the magnetic field strength and therefore can be used to detect its strength.
Anyway, he then connected it via a db-9 serial port, and wrote a/proc filesystem driver to create something like /proc/sump
Which read as either 0 or 1, depending upon weather the sump pump was on or not. Then on his webserver, he wrote some cgi to retrieve/proc/sump's value when a web page was requested, and used that to create a status report page. It was pretty neat, and while I know your problem is a little more complicated, there is a similar solution. It just involves different priciples, and I'm just a lowely programmer.
here is the orriginal article
-kyle
while yellowdog does include apt-for-rpm, they do not fully support it. That is, they prefer you to use their own, similar solution. It's called yum, and while I (like you) would still prefer apt, yum is still capable, and get's the job done right out of the box.
One annoyance that I have is that each and every time you install or upgrade a package with yum, it downloads the latest package headers from their mirrors ( similar to `apt-get update`). But since it's written in python, that can be easily changed.
-kyle
How can you even call a mouse innovative? I've found the idea to be far to cumbersome to notice it's utility. This is why there hasn't been any innovation in the area of human interaction for the last 10 years, everyone just accepts their window's and mice as the only solution.
I'll waist my breath on something that works. -kyle
Actually you can, and some even get away with it. for example, check out this Application Program called Acquisition. It appears to be shareware at first, but it's actually open source software.
Also, I see heard people above are saying that support for OSS can't comare with comercial software. That just isn't true. One of the great things about Free Software is that you have options. I can get my support from companies like Cygwin, Redhat, Suse, VaSoftware, or my Neighbor. Competition is a good thing. On the other hand, with companies like Adobe, only have one option for support, the people who own the source code.
Brand spankn' new asyncronous "Deadline I/O scheduler, which will sort requests more agressivly/efficiently
phat new scheduler that constantly makes decisions no matter how many processes are running on the current machine. Gets rid of the problem of bouncing processes on smp machines that pleagues the current scheduler.
NAPI keeps kernel from being overridden with device interupts from high speed adapters. TCP offloading an asyncronous I/O help the network stack as well.
Neet VFS improvements
The inclusion of ALSA, along with support for many new devices (of course).
New Device Model (coherant registry of sorts).
many more, check it out. I have seen some very promising benchmarks.
... get applecare unless you need it. If you do have a problem within the first 90 days (I believe), then it will most likely be covered by the warranty. After the initial warranty is up, you have until one year after the purchase date to buy applecare. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that applecare lasts for three years after you purchase it. So would it may be smart to wait until the last minute to buy the extended warranty. What you think?
... was in the same situation. On pricewatch, he found a notebook from MicroPro, with a 2500+ (socketed no less), a 333Mhz fsb, Mobile Radeon 9000 64DDR, 60gig HD, and a really nice 15 inch screen. And if you go to pricewatch, and search for "MicroNote Professional 530", you can get it for under $1,200 dollars. It doesn't get the best battery life (around 2 hours and 10 minutes under normal use), and it's feels almost twice as heavy as my ibook, but it's a very cool machine.
There are some things I don't like about it though. Of course this machine has some very hot components. At the bottom, there is a large intake just under the CPU, with a solid copper heat sink and heat pipes that bring it to the left side of the notebook, with a turbine to help it along. For this reason, you can't keep it on your lap (both legs) without blocking the airflow. This doesn't seem like a big deal, but if you put your hand next to the vent on the left, you can feel that the air is really hot.
I wouldn't recommend it if you are looking for an extremely mobile notebook, but if you want one of the most powerful notebooks in production for under $1,200, click here for details. Remember, you get a special deal if you buy it through pricewatch (about $222 I think). If you want any more details, ask me, or him.
I've seen it done before. A friend of mine thought he had his frost problems solved, and then, a few months later, he pulled out his motherboard, and found it (the underside of his logic board) to be covered with mold, and frost. And it still ran perfectly (probably not for much longer, he cleaned and dried it promptly)
I just registered couple of weeks ago. This year will be my first time. Me and NilObject are going.
At first, I thought, "Well, there must be a lot of regualar attendees that are/. members, why hasn't anyone posted?, but then I realized, there isn't much to say after what was said on the front page.
Anyway, I have been checking out the machack cd's from nilObject, getting all psyched.
Are any of you./ers out there going? I know you are?
I know it will be a little rockey at first, but no one said that they need to ditch thier existing MS products. Nothing needs to be replaced right away, only what is needed, when it's needed. Maybe in a year, replace the domain controller, etc.
Also, I don't think they would be doing their students a disservice. Yeah, linux is hard at first for the administrator, but the students will not have to see any of that. If the IT department can come up with clever ways to use abstraction, it could be more comfortable to use than Windows XP on a Windows 2000 domain. At my school, I've see plenty of kids get confused everyday on an NT network.
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"I guess you have never heard of a large segment of the computing world refered to as embeded systems."
Since we are discussing xml, I never considered embedded systems. I was simply responding to his statement that text was a sloppy way to store data. I wasn't refering to xml, just that statemtent.
I personally think that xml is well suited for very few applications. I've never found a good reason to use it over other, more conventional formats.
I completely agree with you, but that wasn't my point. I guess I should be marked off topic.
Yes, obviously binary == proprietary, sort of. But that isn't the problem with binary xml. A binary data stream of any sort has one glaring usability problem, and that is it is not transparent, but rather opaque I guess. What if I have data lying around from one of your apps that I have to recover? I could use your app, a heavyweight tool to find the data I want, or if I don't have it I might have to reverse engineer it. If you'd used a text format from the start I could have use my favorite editor or grep.
:)
Why would you say that text is a slopy way to "define something"? I find that statement rediculous. Especially when you say that it is only ok for memory hogs. If you ask me, the transparency of a text stream far outways any cost in performance. But the truth is, there isn't much anyway. If you can develop a good parser (not that hard), the cost difference is negligable, if any. Now this isn't true for all cases. For example, it would probably be silly to use a text format for a large, high-traffic database. like postgres or mysql. But for most anything else, there isn't any reason to use binary data formats, unless you want to keep something from your users, or at least most of them
a friend of mine said that he has saved the data of many people in the same situation by leaving the HD in the backseat of his car while he is at work on a sunny day. When he gets home, sometimes the heat will let it spin up just long enough to pry away any salvagable data. I know for sure that it has worked for him at least 3 times.
-kyle
you don't need to download all of the isos to install fedora. Probably the first two at the most. Just do a minimal install, and then use aptforrpm or yum to install all of the software you need from the internet. -kyle
i think your solution conflicts with your signature... anyway
;)
-kyle
As an undergrad software engineering major, I find it very difficult to keep a regular sleep schedule. If I'm not doing homework, then I'm obsessed with my latest project, and the latter is amplified to the extreme, because it is rare that I don't have homework. Try and remember what it is like to be in our situation. You were 19 once too.
I remember back in september, Tad Truex wrote an article about how he used linux to monitor the sump pump in his basement. He created a small device that made use of Lorentz Force, which he attached to it's power cord, and as he describes, "The voltage induced on the surface of the conductor in this direction is proportional to the magnetic field strength and therefore can be used to detect its strength. /proc filesystem driver to create something like
/proc/sump /proc/sump's value when a web page was requested, and used that to create a status report page. It was pretty neat, and while I know your problem is a little more complicated, there is a similar solution. It just involves different priciples, and I'm just a lowely programmer.
Anyway, he then connected it via a db-9 serial port, and wrote a
Which read as either 0 or 1, depending upon weather the sump pump was on or not. Then on his webserver, he wrote some cgi to retrieve
here is the orriginal article
-kyle
while yellowdog does include apt-for-rpm, they do not fully support it. That is, they prefer you to use their own, similar solution. It's called yum, and while I (like you) would still prefer apt, yum is still capable, and get's the job done right out of the box.
One annoyance that I have is that each and every time you install or upgrade a package with yum, it downloads the latest package headers from their mirrors ( similar to `apt-get update`). But since it's written in python, that can be easily changed.
-kyle
remember loki? nuf said
How can you even call a mouse innovative? I've found the idea to be far to cumbersome to notice it's utility. This is why there hasn't been any innovation in the area of human interaction for the last 10 years, everyone just accepts their window's and mice as the only solution.
I'll waist my breath on something that works.
-kyle
"They cant even offer it fo a measly $20..."
Actually you can, and some even get away with it. for example, check out this Application Program called Acquisition. It appears to be shareware at first, but it's actually open source software.
Also, I see heard people above are saying that support for OSS can't comare with comercial software. That just isn't true. One of the great things about Free Software is that you have options. I can get my support from companies like Cygwin, Redhat, Suse, VaSoftware, or my Neighbor. Competition is a good thing. On the other hand, with companies like Adobe, only have one option for support, the people who own the source code.
If Richard Stallman can do it, so can we.
Brand spankn' new asyncronous "Deadline I/O scheduler, which will sort requests more agressivly/efficiently
phat new scheduler that constantly makes decisions no matter how many processes are running on the current machine. Gets rid of the problem of bouncing processes on smp machines that pleagues the current scheduler.
NAPI keeps kernel from being overridden with device interupts from high speed adapters. TCP offloading an asyncronous I/O help the network stack as well.
Neet VFS improvements
The inclusion of ALSA, along with support for many new devices (of course).
New Device Model (coherant registry of sorts).
many more, check it out. I have seen some very promising benchmarks.
I can't see how you can find the Win2k to XP transition difficult, since not much has changed since 1995.
... get applecare unless you need it. If you do have a problem within the first 90 days (I believe), then it will most likely be covered by the warranty. After the initial warranty is up, you have until one year after the purchase date to buy applecare. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that applecare lasts for three years after you purchase it. So would it may be smart to wait until the last minute to buy the extended warranty. What you think?
... was in the same situation. On pricewatch, he found a notebook from MicroPro, with a 2500+ (socketed no less), a 333Mhz fsb, Mobile Radeon 9000 64DDR, 60gig HD, and a really nice 15 inch screen. And if you go to pricewatch, and search for "MicroNote Professional 530", you can get it for under $1,200 dollars. It doesn't get the best battery life (around 2 hours and 10 minutes under normal use), and it's feels almost twice as heavy as my ibook, but it's a very cool machine.
There are some things I don't like about it though. Of course this machine has some very hot components. At the bottom, there is a large intake just under the CPU, with a solid copper heat sink and heat pipes that bring it to the left side of the notebook, with a turbine to help it along. For this reason, you can't keep it on your lap (both legs) without blocking the airflow. This doesn't seem like a big deal, but if you put your hand next to the vent on the left, you can feel that the air is really hot.
I wouldn't recommend it if you are looking for an extremely mobile notebook, but if you want one of the most powerful notebooks in production for under $1,200, click here for details. Remember, you get a special deal if you buy it through pricewatch (about $222 I think). If you want any more details, ask me, or him.
I find that the old references are still the best, like old NeXTstep or System V books, like OpenComputing's Best Unix Tips Ever.
I've seen it done before. A friend of mine thought he had his frost problems solved, and then, a few months later, he pulled out his motherboard, and found it (the underside of his logic board) to be covered with mold, and frost. And it still ran perfectly (probably not for much longer, he cleaned and dried it promptly)
... why not put peltier coolers on everything, and see if these things will run with 8 cm of mold on them. Chia Box!!
I just registered couple of weeks ago. This year will be my first time. Me and NilObject are going. At first, I thought, "Well, there must be a lot of regualar attendees that are /. members, why hasn't anyone posted?, but then I realized, there isn't much to say after what was said on the front page.
Anyway, I have been checking out the machack cd's from nilObject, getting all psyched.
Are any of you ./ers out there going? I know you are?
I know it will be a little rockey at first, but no one said that they need to ditch thier existing MS products. Nothing needs to be replaced right away, only what is needed, when it's needed. Maybe in a year, replace the domain controller, etc. Also, I don't think they would be doing their students a disservice. Yeah, linux is hard at first for the administrator, but the students will not have to see any of that. If the IT department can come up with clever ways to use abstraction, it could be more comfortable to use than Windows XP on a Windows 2000 domain. At my school, I've see plenty of kids get confused everyday on an NT network.
Time to fire up good old wget.
Not only did I remove the dang thing from my case, I have the floppy controller turned off. I haven't used a floppy disk (by choice) in about 3 years
Sex and the City, now that's a series that can go on forever. Kim Catrel is the Shit
Totally
Too many of these things go on far too long. Like friends, it was great, and now, the last few seasons have sucked.