It appears in my attempt to correct Dell's name, I mislead some people. The people who say dell does not contract out laptops is correct, and the people who say they do are also correct. I can't say which line, but one line of the laptops are outsourced. The other line, however, are designed and manufactured entirely by dell. I suspect similar things occur at companies like HP and Compaq.
"He got a hold of the contractors that make laptops for Dell (I forget the name), "
What? I hate to tell you this, but dell (and compaq for that matter) do not contract out their laptops (or servers). They are design here in Round Rock, Texas. I don't know where you got your information, but I'm sorry to say it is very incorrect. Certain things like the planar are contracted out for construction, but the planar, case, etc is all design here and by Dell.
Right, and Apple is the first company to ever do wireless networking.
No apple isn't... but they are one of the first companies that are committed to providing it in all of their products. Not to mention target it for home use, by integrating a hub and modem into the Airport. Apple never claimed to innovate wireless networking. They just made it easier (and affordable) for the average joe-blow to use it.
You know... its funny how Apple always seems to come up with interesting ideas. Take Microsoft's new mouse... all they did was add a tailight really. Sun had the optical mouse in use a long time ago (granted, you had to have the reflective pad..but that was HOW many YEARS ago?).
Even if you "hate" the Macintosh... you really have to admire Apple's will to do things differently... (don't mean to sound like one of their commericals..but really). What other companies goes out on a limb with "different" types of technology? Years after everyone talked about hating "all in one" designs... they released the iMac, and everyone thought 'wow.' Who knew that plastic cases would be so popular (and copied). Heck... how many of use use one of those silly GUIs? (I know it was Xerox's project, but Apple brought it to the masses)
They are building their laptops to be sleek (well, I liked the black G3's.... I dunno about the new power books) and completely wireless. C'mon...that's just plain cool. And speaking of wireless... the whole idea of the Airport is cool.
I'd have to say its probably far more exciting working at Apple where you get "cool" stuff done, than say at "ordinary" companies where its just "what's the marketing doing today? let's go there..."
Type 'free' and make sure linux is using all 256megs of RAM.... Sounds like its only using the first 64megs and swapping.... Even in the 2.2.x series, you sometimes still have to specifically put the APPEND="mem=256m" in lilo.conf....
and I was probably one of the few who actually registered their software and got the code
In our area, the people that wanted the code registered... And we all had the same idea that "hey, its worth the money." Besides, at the time, nobody was interested in 'source code' for the most part anyway. WWIV is how I started to learn..(pronouced: copy-paste) C.
Sorry... I feel like i'm beating a dead horse... but this got me:
1. Why is swapping the Kernel so complicated? Why not automate this more?
How do you mean automate it more? If you do:
make menuconfig Maybe this is the problem... but if you use the.config file from redhat or something, then everything is a module anyway...
make dep
make clean
make bzImage
make modules
make modules_install
make bzlilo
done..... I put all the make statments in to a 'script' and call it "complie." (Orginial, eh?). Then all you have to do is make menuconfig, copy your.config file from the previous kernel (if its the same tree anyway), and then type./complie...wait 4 or 5 minutes (3 on mine) and then reboot.
Sadly to say, but I haven't looked to see what HOWTO comes with the kernels. I just know that years ago when I complied my first one I printed out the KERNEL-HOWTO and followed it step-by-step. I'm interested to know what HOWTO you are reading that made it seem so complicated?
You know... it just occured to me... OEM vendors typically market their AMD systems has "lost cost alternatives." Why? Why not market an Athlon into a high end server market... Use AMD not because its cheaper but because its a faster, and a better value. I wonder if people tend to view the lower price of an AMD system to mean that its of lesser quaility....
Okay...well...come over to engineering sometime and ask one of us if we think AMD is stable... You might be surprised (from your comment) about what you'll find out. We haven't had an quarterly meeting yet where someone has said lets talk about AMD.... and stability hasn't been the deterring factor for a while.
There's always a backend concern that if Dell/Anyone started using AMD that Intel would go "no no no." Fortuantly things have gotten to a point that Intel wouldn't want the publicity that would be created from something like that to happen. Besides, Intel has a prominent place (at this point) in the x86 server market. Most companies wouldn't be ready to trade any of their Intel product lines for AMD lines... it is more likely they'd augment their product lines with AMD based solutions.
The article commented that AMD has supieror production yields.... which puzzles me. I know Dell (gee wonder why I know) is iffy about using AMD procs because of supply problems. It'd be nice to see AMD push stuff out the door so larger OEMs can begin to really consider them for servers and higher end markets. Even if their procs are faster,better, etc than Intel.... overall Intel can provide more quanitity to a company that demands high supply. If AMD is sitting around going "well, we're a little low" that'll drive the OEM's prices up (unexpectatly)...
"need to buy a license if I want to do something with MySQL for a client. "
i haven't read the license for a while, but I remember reading that was only true if the product you developed for the client relied soley on MySQL. If your application used standard SQL and was not entirely MySQL dependant, then it would still fall under the "free" catagory. (Unless, of course, you tried to run it under NT)
A common myth about open source is that if you release a program with a description and a few source files...someone else will fill in the gaps. They would probably rather get their framework for their own needs put together before releasing it onto the world's eyes. Just because something says "open source" doesn't mean it has to be "open" from the beginning... I know I'd rather work on something and get the basics of what i want put into it, before having loads of people (and lots of non-programmers) look at it and bombard me with email saying "why not this, why not that..." when they are all things I had planned.
Okay. This was always like the second biggest problem I had with explaining how to install linux to people. After I clue them in about partitioning, you have to explain Lilo... and they are always like "huh? what do you mean boot sector" or "put the kernel below 1024 cylidners" Anyway, this should shave a bit off of the "hard to install" block, I'm sure.
I remember wiretap was one of the first things I found on the net. Back when a "internet service provider" was nothing more than a place that gave out unix shells (on 14.4's). In fact, I think I found the comedy section the first night I was on the net. I used lynx to read it... the funny thing is, about 90% of the forwards people send around to each now, were on there. My favorite was the "50 things to do on a final you're going to fail."
I haven't looked at the license info for a long time, but I remember a few years ago you could use the Real Personal Server for something like this. As long as the use was non-profit you didn't have to pay for realserver. You were, however, limited to something like 50 connections.
What stuck out in my mind was the "On the fly" streaming. I plugged the audio out of my cd player into the line in of my sound card and I was able to stream a "radio station." (My idea was to have another sound card playing mp3s that fed into the other card to do the Real media conversion).
Like I said, its all contingent on what the Real Personal Server license allows. But I know it can do what you want.
I like how the article states that we have to wait until 2.4 to get SMP support. Gee. Funny how I could have swore I am running SMP now.... I think they meant to say "better support in 2.4".
WTF kind of life do you have to have to think its cool to get married on a quake server? I mean is this what is considered romantic now? If getting married on the net wasn't pathetic enough. How lazy can you be?
It is not required to distrubte the source code with the program... just as long as its available. HOWEVER, you MUST distribute the GNU License... which seems to be lacking from that file list. I think that is the point he was getting at.... not so much the source code wasn't included.
A noticed people are mention firewire, usb, and etc. I think the article is centering on the memory bus in the computer, and not so much an external bus. Of course, if they are considering moving the memory bus to a serial fashion, then it would be possible to simply place your digital camera straight on the memory bus, ignoring your usb connector. My guess is, however, by moving to a serial memory bus, it makes it easier to do multiprocessor processing, since you don't have to connect almost a hundren wires to another processor to share memory, timing signals, etc.
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It appears in my attempt to correct Dell's name, I mislead some people. The people who say dell does not contract out laptops is correct, and the people who say they do are also correct. I can't say which line, but one line of the laptops are outsourced. The other line, however, are designed and manufactured entirely by dell. I suspect similar things occur at companies like HP and Compaq.
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"He got a hold of the contractors that make laptops for Dell (I forget the name), "
What? I hate to tell you this, but dell (and compaq for that matter) do not contract out their laptops (or servers). They are design here in Round Rock, Texas. I don't know where you got your information, but I'm sorry to say it is very incorrect. Certain things like the planar are contracted out for construction, but the planar, case, etc is all design here and by Dell.
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Right, and Apple is the first company to ever do wireless networking.
No apple isn't... but they are one of the first companies that are committed to providing it in all of their products. Not to mention target it for home use, by integrating a hub and modem into the Airport. Apple never claimed to innovate wireless networking. They just made it easier (and affordable) for the average joe-blow to use it.
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You know... its funny how Apple always seems to come up with interesting ideas. Take Microsoft's new mouse... all they did was add a tailight really. Sun had the optical mouse in use a long time ago (granted, you had to have the reflective pad..but that was HOW many YEARS ago?).
Even if you "hate" the Macintosh... you really have to admire Apple's will to do things differently... (don't mean to sound like one of their commericals..but really). What other companies goes out on a limb with "different" types of technology? Years after everyone talked about hating "all in one" designs... they released the iMac, and everyone thought 'wow.' Who knew that plastic cases would be so popular (and copied). Heck... how many of use use one of those silly GUIs? (I know it was Xerox's project, but Apple brought it to the masses)
They are building their laptops to be sleek (well, I liked the black G3's.... I dunno about the new power books) and completely wireless. C'mon...that's just plain cool. And speaking of wireless... the whole idea of the Airport is cool.
I'd have to say its probably far more exciting working at Apple where you get "cool" stuff done, than say at "ordinary" companies where its just "what's the marketing doing today? let's go there..."
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Type 'free' and make sure linux is using all 256megs of RAM.... Sounds like its only using the first 64megs and swapping.... Even in the 2.2.x series, you sometimes still have to specifically put the APPEND="mem=256m" in lilo.conf ....
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and I was probably one of the few who actually registered their software and got the code
In our area, the people that wanted the code registered... And we all had the same idea that "hey, its worth the money." Besides, at the time, nobody was interested in 'source code' for the most part anyway. WWIV is how I started to learn..(pronouced: copy-paste) C.
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Sorry... I feel like i'm beating a dead horse... but this got me:
.config file from redhat or something, then everything is a module anyway...
.config file from the previous kernel (if its the same tree anyway), and then type ./complie...wait 4 or 5 minutes (3 on mine) and then reboot.
1. Why is swapping the Kernel so complicated? Why not automate this more?
How do you mean automate it more? If you do:
make menuconfig Maybe this is the problem... but if you use the
make dep
make clean
make bzImage
make modules
make modules_install
make bzlilo
done..... I put all the make statments in to a 'script' and call it "complie." (Orginial, eh?). Then all you have to do is make menuconfig, copy your
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Sadly to say, but I haven't looked to see what HOWTO comes with the kernels. I just know that years ago when I complied my first one I printed out the KERNEL-HOWTO and followed it step-by-step. I'm interested to know what HOWTO you are reading that made it seem so complicated?
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Was M16 released? Or was support slipped into the nightly builds?
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You know... it just occured to me... OEM vendors typically market their AMD systems has "lost cost alternatives." Why? Why not market an Athlon into a high end server market... Use AMD not because its cheaper but because its a faster, and a better value. I wonder if people tend to view the lower price of an AMD system to mean that its of lesser quaility....
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Okay...well...come over to engineering sometime and ask one of us if we think AMD is stable... You might be surprised (from your comment) about what you'll find out. We haven't had an quarterly meeting yet where someone has said lets talk about AMD.... and stability hasn't been the deterring factor for a while.
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No....
There's always a backend concern that if Dell/Anyone started using AMD that Intel would go "no no no." Fortuantly things have gotten to a point that Intel wouldn't want the publicity that would be created from something like that to happen. Besides, Intel has a prominent place (at this point) in the x86 server market. Most companies wouldn't be ready to trade any of their Intel product lines for AMD lines... it is more likely they'd augment their product lines with AMD based solutions.
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The article commented that AMD has supieror production yields.... which puzzles me. I know Dell (gee wonder why I know) is iffy about using AMD procs because of supply problems. It'd be nice to see AMD push stuff out the door so larger OEMs can begin to really consider them for servers and higher end markets. Even if their procs are faster,better, etc than Intel.... overall Intel can provide more quanitity to a company that demands high supply. If AMD is sitting around going "well, we're a little low" that'll drive the OEM's prices up (unexpectatly)...
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"need to buy a license if I want to do something with MySQL for a client. "
i haven't read the license for a while, but I remember reading that was only true if the product you developed for the client relied soley on MySQL. If your application used standard SQL and was not entirely MySQL dependant, then it would still fall under the "free" catagory. (Unless, of course, you tried to run it under NT)
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A common myth about open source is that if you release a program with a description and a few source files...someone else will fill in the gaps. They would probably rather get their framework for their own needs put together before releasing it onto the world's eyes. Just because something says "open source" doesn't mean it has to be "open" from the beginning... I know I'd rather work on something and get the basics of what i want put into it, before having loads of people (and lots of non-programmers) look at it and bombard me with email saying "why not this, why not that..." when they are all things I had planned.
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Okay. This was always like the second biggest problem I had with explaining how to install linux to people. After I clue them in about partitioning, you have to explain Lilo... and they are always like "huh? what do you mean boot sector" or "put the kernel below 1024 cylidners" Anyway, this should shave a bit off of the "hard to install" block, I'm sure.
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I remember wiretap was one of the first things I found on the net. Back when a "internet service provider" was nothing more than a place that gave out unix shells (on 14.4's). In fact, I think I found the comedy section the first night I was on the net. I used lynx to read it... the funny thing is, about 90% of the forwards people send around to each now, were on there. My favorite was the "50 things to do on a final you're going to fail."
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All depends on the quaility.
If they are doing some live broadcast type of thing then CD quaility isn't needed.
Not only that, if they are streaming they are probably going to cater to modem users so they'll be doing it realivly light anyway.
If you're doing 44.1k @ 192bps real time you probably need a powerhouse... but i doubt 11k around 56kps is going to strain a moderate system.
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I haven't looked at the license info for a long time, but I remember a few years ago you could use the Real Personal Server for something like this. As long as the use was non-profit you didn't have to pay for realserver. You were, however, limited to something like 50 connections.
What stuck out in my mind was the "On the fly" streaming. I plugged the audio out of my cd player into the line in of my sound card and I was able to stream a "radio station." (My idea was to have another sound card playing mp3s that fed into the other card to do the Real media conversion).
Like I said, its all contingent on what the Real Personal Server license allows. But I know it can do what you want.
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I like how the article states that we have to wait until 2.4 to get SMP support. Gee. Funny how I could have swore I am running SMP now.... I think they meant to say "better support in 2.4".
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Is this for real? I mean really.
WTF kind of life do you have to have to think its cool to get married on a quake server? I mean is this what is considered romantic now? If getting married on the net wasn't pathetic enough. How lazy can you be?
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It is not required to distrubte the source code with the program... just as long as its available. HOWEVER, you MUST distribute the GNU License... which seems to be lacking from that file list. I think that is the point he was getting at.... not so much the source code wasn't included.
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These are the keywords from the meta tag of one of their pages..
meta name="keywords" content="Linux, LinuxOne, kernel, S.O., Distribution, Labs, Red Hat, Redhat, Caldera, OpenLinux, SuSE, S.u.s.e., applixware, news, resources, Operating, System, OS, KDE, GNOME, GNU, Server, Network, application, Penguin, Onestop, Free, Download, commerical, support"
Interesting that they'd want someone searching for Red Hat or RedHat to come to their site...
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A noticed people are mention firewire, usb, and etc. I think the article is centering on the memory bus in the computer, and not so much an external bus. Of course, if they are considering moving the memory bus to a serial fashion, then it would be possible to simply place your digital camera straight on the memory bus, ignoring your usb connector. My guess is, however, by moving to a serial memory bus, it makes it easier to do multiprocessor processing, since you don't have to connect almost a hundren wires to another processor to share memory, timing signals, etc.
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That's amazing... we've got 18,000 users using qpopper on a P2-233 ... and no sweat.
Amazing how little hardware we had to use.
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