What rock have you been living under? Plenty of originally supportive folks decided Assange was a dickhead a long time ago.
You just gave the definition of a concern troll.
most recently just two months ago
Wow. If I end up saying something stupid, I don't make a point of referencing the stupidity later on:
To summarize: "I only publishes whats I gets and my Russian handlers didn't give me anything damaging on Trump, so... I no publish anything".
1) Wikileaks is in the publishing business, not the hacking business. If you want Wikileaks to publish information on Trump, the RNC, Russia or the price of rice in China, then get off your lazy ass and start hacking.
2) Russian handlers? That's so stupid it's not worth responding to.
So you can fuck right off.
Go fuck yourself, concern troll. At your next troll meeting, you might suggest that you and your fellow trolls back up these character attacks on Assange, so you can't be dismissed as tools in.002 seconds.
So anyone who goes outside in a country under occupation - to go to work, to school, to buy food - just has it coming when a helicopter shoots them all for no reason? Did you take classes to engage in this level of depraved idiocy, or does it come naturally?
Do you not recall the furore around here over the rape accusations?
Do you not recall that Sweden has refused to interview Assange in the embassy, or promise not to extradite him to the US if he returned to Sweden? Maybe Assange would have found a reason to back out of those promises as well - but the fact that Sweden hasn't called his bluff means the rape accusations are a joke.
Where the fuck do they find you people? It's assholes like you that make me wonder if humanity as a whole is really that self-deluded, full of shit-stain trolls, or blah blah blah blah blah
Obama's own Vice President went from threatening Bush with impeachment if he attacked Iran without going through Congress, then was part of an administration that ignored Congress for months as he waged war on Libya. If that's not enough, remember how Democrats were furious over the Patriot Act - but DGAF when Obama signed an NDAA allowing the military to throw you in prison without trial?
Assange is very far from a "perfect record for truth telling".
Then you'll have no problem listing some examples of fraudulent documents released through Wikileaks, right?
And the only country anyone has asked him to surrender for is Sweden. Is that "the torture country" in your book?
Are you ignorant of the fact that Sweden was a willing tool of Bush's extraordinary kidnapping program, handing people over to United States custody that were promptly tortured?
Possessing money is a symptom of a certain generation within a family exploiting people or resources
Fixed that up a bit. If hard work == riches, family farmers and public school teachers would be the millionaires, while investment bankers would be living in modest apartments while paying off their student loan debts.
The U.S. overthrow of Ukraine is no more disputable than the fact that the U.S. government lied through its teeth on Iraq's WMD's. Hillary's stooge Victoria Nuland is on video bragging about spending $5 billion to manipulate the Ukrainian government - and then Democrats whine about Russian interference in their own elections. The legislature failed to get the necessary number of votes to impeach the president, but the US immediately recognized the legitimacy of the coup after the president was forced to flee for his life.
In some other universe where Jews made up 95% of the population of Israel in 1900, and Palestinians 5%. Where Palestinians in Europe decided they wanted a state, and so immigrated to Israel, and by 1948 made up 30% of the population. At which these immigrants laid claim to 100% of the land and forced the native population out of their homes with force.
Ignoring the continued commitment of Arabs in the Middle East (worldwide, actually) to exterminate Jews
What part of "it has nothing to do with them being Jews" was a hard concept? It could have been Freemasons following the same colonialist project and the results are the same.
Even in 1948 the Arab world would have annihilated the Jewish populations in all middle eastern regions.
See above.
But when I consider the Arab treatment of those in Palestine, that is the great tragedy.
Translation: the Arab states should have taken in millions of Palestinians being ethnically cleansed from their lands, so Israel wouldn't have to bother with this whole Apartheid system. Zionism is based on racism and bullshit excuses.
The question is what exactly does "war" mean. Is just bombing a "war" without ground invasion? Does the war powers act require authorization for *any* military "help"? Iraq was certainly a "war" by any definition, and Bush may have had approval from congress but it was still (arguably) a violation of international law.
You know a meme was created to address that line of idiocy.
In any case, there's no comparison between Bush and Obama interventions in terms of lives and taxpayer cost.
Of course there is. And under Obama, Iraq would have turned into a bloodbath years before it had under Bush. Because the main killer of Iraqis wasn't the initial invasion, but the sectarian civil war that followed. What's Obama's favorite method to depose Arab governments? Creating sectarian civil wars, by directly arming ISIS and Al Queda - something else Bush didn't do.
Sounds like you don't know that the only people more full of shit than right wing SJW democrats are heterosexual christians who think the world is out to get them.
Do it in one step: start assigning a $200,000 excise tax for each H1-B worker. And do it before any regular compensation or benefits - this way when the company claims there aren't any Americans who can do the job, we'll know they aren't being too lazy to recruit or too greedy to pay for what they want to get.
No, I think Palestine should have taken the Two State solution offered by Israel a few years ago, but refused and went on a rampage over it.
Bullshit revisionist history of Biblical proportions. Palestinians are legally entitled to all of the territory taken by Israel in the 1967, which was started by Israel - save the Golan Heights, which belongs to Syria. That includes Jerusalem, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, which has been under a constant blockade by the Israeli government. Still, they were willing to make massive concessions they didn't have to - but Israel kept moving the goalposts, demanding control over water and making increasingly absurd demands.
Take it up with the Israeli government - they're the ones who created Hamas, to weaken support for Fatah.
Their most ardent supporters (and most others) neither require nor expect any such veneer. So many in the world support the goal of extending Jews, and Hamas is merely one of the tools to that end.
Spare us the zionist horseshit. It has nothing to do with Israelis being Jews, and everything with being a colonialist state based on immigrants stealing land from people who have lived there for centuries.
Any justification of limiting Israel in both keeping territory gained in the defense of their nation
Both the 1948 and 1967 wars were started by Israel. By your logic, if Egypt was typed off about the IDF's sneak attack and the Arab response crushed the state of Israel, they would have been perfectly justified in claiming all of Israel and expelling all Israelis.
Then they would have done it, as the regional superpower.
The Palestinian authorities support the destruction of Israel and extermination of Jews. The Arab world as well. And much of Europe.
Pure zionist dumbfuckery. Reality: almost none of the Jews living in Israel were living there in 1948, or descended from those who were. They're all immigrants from other countries, making Israel a racist colonialist apartheid state from Day 1. Israel would never have seen the light of day without land theft and ethnic cleansing.
The man is a genius. Anyone who can come up with a new stock market (carbon credits) put themselves at the top and actually get people to buy into it isn't a buffoon. Greedy, huxster, sell out, puppet bitch-boy of global interest, sure, but he pulled off a shenanigan on a global level that has given him tons of profit and still has people arguing and fighting about it.
Nah. The genius was in getting right-wingers to foam at the mouth at the mention of his name, when Gore was a conservative "market-based solutions" kind of guy. Like the carbon credits you mentioned - a right wing capitalist plan to reduce carbon emissions, instead of banning or taxing coal plants out of existence while investing in other power sources.
I think it was extremely disingenuous of him to allow it to stay classified as a Schedule I drug especially given how it was a significant part of his early life.
Yeah, anytime you heard him start with "let me be clear", you knew you were in for a steaming pile. He liked to say those four words on a frequent basis.
I know right! I just couldn't believe how he invaded both Iraq and Afghanistan on his first day in office! And all the excuses about WMDs that Obama made up for invading Iraq. That was a really impressive first day in office for Obama.
Idiotic hand waiving is idiotic. Obama wanted to extend the Iraq occupation - but the Iraqis refused and so he had to adhere to the withdrawal negotiated by Bush. Then he tripled forces in Afghanistan, illegally started wars in Libya & Syria & Yemen, overthrew the Ukrainian government, blew up weddings & funerals with drones, and made plans to spend a trillion dollars to upgrade America's nuclear arsenal.
If Turkey and Russia get into a tit for tat (not drawing in NATO) it's not going to spiral into WWIII. As opposed to if the U.S. shoots down a Russian plane, at which point the Russians might shoot down a U.S. plane dropping bombs on Syria (if they still haven't run out of bombs, that is). Or bomb some American "advisors", until they are sinking each other's ships, and a week later we're in nuclear winter.
Personally, I think that Syria should have a no-fly zone.
Based on extreme ignorance of the situation or extreme American Exceptionalism?
You don't need to watch very many videos of government troops dropping barrel bombs out of helicopters
If it were Russia and China arming, training and financing ISIS and Al Queda to come into your house, you'd use whatever kind of bomb you could get your hands on to drive them out.
Dafuk? What do you call Libya and Syria, just for starters? He also joined the Saudi's in bombing Yemen. Hell, at least Bush got authorization for his war against Iraq - Obama just ignored Congress completely and bombed the country for months. Something his own vice president threatened Bush with impeachment if he had done the same thing with Iran.
Clinton believes in using American power to maintain American Hegemony
FTFY. Unless you'd care to explain how Honduras, Ukraine, Haiti, Iraq, Syria and Libya have been "improved".
Her Iraq war vote isn't really evidence of anything other than the fact
...that she's an incompetent warmonger. This is the same lady that lost sleep at night because her college was going to protest the Vietnam war. Hillary never saw a war she didn't like, and was gung-ho on ramping up to WWIII by enforcing a no-fly zone over Syria, when Russia is the only military that was invited by the Syrian government.
Russia are a lot more likely to try pushing into Eastern Europe as they did in Ukraine
You mean they didn't take it lying down when the U.S. overthrew the democratically elected government of Ukraine. If Russia had done the same to Mexico or Canada, you'd bet the Pentagon's response would have been a bit more muscular.
Iran and talking about scrapping the deal that eased relations and halted their Nuclear weapons program
They didn't have a nuclear weapons program as even Mossad can tell you. Of the U.S. and Iran, only one is in violation of the NPT - for ignoring the sections on disarmament.
How about when he trash talked John Lewis on MLK day because John Lewis hurt his feelings by saying he wasn't going to the inauguration? Calculated move?
John Lewis dissed Trump first. Trump responded in kind - and Democrats lost their ever loving minds. Which seems to be a daily occurrence, these days.
They're not stupid. They're just smug. Liberals in general got full of smug somehow. Gone are the days of men from working class backgrounds rising to power. Smug weenies rule the left in the USA. Their strategy in the face of the current distress seems to be, "We weren't smug enough. We need to pile on more smug".
Yes, that's a common problem among right-wingers of various stripes. Liberals included.
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You just gave the definition of a concern troll.
Wow. If I end up saying something stupid, I don't make a point of referencing the stupidity later on:
1) Wikileaks is in the publishing business, not the hacking business. If you want Wikileaks to publish information on Trump, the RNC, Russia or the price of rice in China, then get off your lazy ass and start hacking.
2) Russian handlers? That's so stupid it's not worth responding to.
Go fuck yourself, concern troll. At your next troll meeting, you might suggest that you and your fellow trolls back up these character attacks on Assange, so you can't be dismissed as tools in .002 seconds.
So anyone who goes outside in a country under occupation - to go to work, to school, to buy food - just has it coming when a helicopter shoots them all for no reason? Did you take classes to engage in this level of depraved idiocy, or does it come naturally?
Do you not recall that Sweden has refused to interview Assange in the embassy, or promise not to extradite him to the US if he returned to Sweden? Maybe Assange would have found a reason to back out of those promises as well - but the fact that Sweden hasn't called his bluff means the rape accusations are a joke.
Obama's own Vice President went from threatening Bush with impeachment if he attacked Iran without going through Congress, then was part of an administration that ignored Congress for months as he waged war on Libya. If that's not enough, remember how Democrats were furious over the Patriot Act - but DGAF when Obama signed an NDAA allowing the military to throw you in prison without trial?
Then you'll have no problem listing some examples of fraudulent documents released through Wikileaks, right?
Are you ignorant of the fact that Sweden was a willing tool of Bush's extraordinary kidnapping program, handing people over to United States custody that were promptly tortured?
Fixed that up a bit. If hard work == riches, family farmers and public school teachers would be the millionaires, while investment bankers would be living in modest apartments while paying off their student loan debts.
The U.S. overthrow of Ukraine is no more disputable than the fact that the U.S. government lied through its teeth on Iraq's WMD's. Hillary's stooge Victoria Nuland is on video bragging about spending $5 billion to manipulate the Ukrainian government - and then Democrats whine about Russian interference in their own elections. The legislature failed to get the necessary number of votes to impeach the president, but the US immediately recognized the legitimacy of the coup after the president was forced to flee for his life.
So go fuck yourself, you sucker of anti-semetic fascist cock, you.
In some other universe where Jews made up 95% of the population of Israel in 1900, and Palestinians 5%. Where Palestinians in Europe decided they wanted a state, and so immigrated to Israel, and by 1948 made up 30% of the population. At which these immigrants laid claim to 100% of the land and forced the native population out of their homes with force.
Here, you're just a racist idiot.
What part of "it has nothing to do with them being Jews" was a hard concept? It could have been Freemasons following the same colonialist project and the results are the same.
See above.
Translation: the Arab states should have taken in millions of Palestinians being ethnically cleansed from their lands, so Israel wouldn't have to bother with this whole Apartheid system. Zionism is based on racism and bullshit excuses.
You know a meme was created to address that line of idiocy.
Of course there is. And under Obama, Iraq would have turned into a bloodbath years before it had under Bush. Because the main killer of Iraqis wasn't the initial invasion, but the sectarian civil war that followed. What's Obama's favorite method to depose Arab governments? Creating sectarian civil wars, by directly arming ISIS and Al Queda - something else Bush didn't do.
Sounds like you don't know that the only people more full of shit than right wing SJW democrats are heterosexual christians who think the world is out to get them.
Do it in one step: start assigning a $200,000 excise tax for each H1-B worker. And do it before any regular compensation or benefits - this way when the company claims there aren't any Americans who can do the job, we'll know they aren't being too lazy to recruit or too greedy to pay for what they want to get.
Hand waiving that does nothing to change the fact that Israel is an apartheid colonialist state - and always has been.
Bullshit revisionist history of Biblical proportions. Palestinians are legally entitled to all of the territory taken by Israel in the 1967, which was started by Israel - save the Golan Heights, which belongs to Syria. That includes Jerusalem, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, which has been under a constant blockade by the Israeli government. Still, they were willing to make massive concessions they didn't have to - but Israel kept moving the goalposts, demanding control over water and making increasingly absurd demands.
Why not. They are the victims of colonialism, land theft, ethnic cleansing and apartheid.
Take it up with the Israeli government - they're the ones who created Hamas, to weaken support for Fatah.
Spare us the zionist horseshit. It has nothing to do with Israelis being Jews, and everything with being a colonialist state based on immigrants stealing land from people who have lived there for centuries.
Both the 1948 and 1967 wars were started by Israel. By your logic, if Egypt was typed off about the IDF's sneak attack and the Arab response crushed the state of Israel, they would have been perfectly justified in claiming all of Israel and expelling all Israelis.
Then they would have done it, as the regional superpower.
Pure zionist dumbfuckery. Reality: almost none of the Jews living in Israel were living there in 1948, or descended from those who were. They're all immigrants from other countries, making Israel a racist colonialist apartheid state from Day 1. Israel would never have seen the light of day without land theft and ethnic cleansing.
Nah. The genius was in getting right-wingers to foam at the mouth at the mention of his name, when Gore was a conservative "market-based solutions" kind of guy. Like the carbon credits you mentioned - a right wing capitalist plan to reduce carbon emissions, instead of banning or taxing coal plants out of existence while investing in other power sources.
Yeah, anytime you heard him start with "let me be clear", you knew you were in for a steaming pile. He liked to say those four words on a frequent basis.
Idiotic hand waiving is idiotic. Obama wanted to extend the Iraq occupation - but the Iraqis refused and so he had to adhere to the withdrawal negotiated by Bush. Then he tripled forces in Afghanistan, illegally started wars in Libya & Syria & Yemen, overthrew the Ukrainian government, blew up weddings & funerals with drones, and made plans to spend a trillion dollars to upgrade America's nuclear arsenal.
If Turkey and Russia get into a tit for tat (not drawing in NATO) it's not going to spiral into WWIII. As opposed to if the U.S. shoots down a Russian plane, at which point the Russians might shoot down a U.S. plane dropping bombs on Syria (if they still haven't run out of bombs, that is). Or bomb some American "advisors", until they are sinking each other's ships, and a week later we're in nuclear winter.
Based on extreme ignorance of the situation or extreme American Exceptionalism?
If it were Russia and China arming, training and financing ISIS and Al Queda to come into your house, you'd use whatever kind of bomb you could get your hands on to drive them out.
Dafuk? What do you call Libya and Syria, just for starters? He also joined the Saudi's in bombing Yemen. Hell, at least Bush got authorization for his war against Iraq - Obama just ignored Congress completely and bombed the country for months. Something his own vice president threatened Bush with impeachment if he had done the same thing with Iran.
FTFY. Unless you'd care to explain how Honduras, Ukraine, Haiti, Iraq, Syria and Libya have been "improved".
You mean they didn't take it lying down when the U.S. overthrew the democratically elected government of Ukraine. If Russia had done the same to Mexico or Canada, you'd bet the Pentagon's response would have been a bit more muscular.
They didn't have a nuclear weapons program as even Mossad can tell you. Of the U.S. and Iran, only one is in violation of the NPT - for ignoring the sections on disarmament.
John Lewis dissed Trump first. Trump responded in kind - and Democrats lost their ever loving minds. Which seems to be a daily occurrence, these days.
Yes, that's a common problem among right-wingers of various stripes. Liberals included.