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Donald Trump Is Sworn In As the 45th US President (reuters.com)
Donald Trump was sworn in as the 45th president of the United States on Friday, succeeding Barack Obama and taking control of a divided country in a transition of power that he has declared will lead to "America First" policies at home and abroad. Reuters reports: As scattered protests erupted elsewhere in Washington, Trump raised his right hand and put his left on a Bible used by Abraham Lincoln and repeated a 35-word oath of office from the U.S. Constitution, with U.S. Chief Justice John Roberts presiding.
Nobody rushing the stage shouting "You are the greatest monster in human history!" while blasting away?
He made a lot of bold promises based on a lot of questionable data.
However he did win, even though most of the media said he never had a chance, so who knows, he is literally just so crazy that it might work. Or we are going be be doomed.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
That didn't take long. Keep thinking everyone who disagrees with you is a Nazi.
Well hopefully things don't get worse (but they seem to with each president don't they), and if they do, hopefully people do more than whine about it.
He's been sworn in for almost an hour now and no nuclear war....exceeding expectations.
that the crowds are so small.
...and next on the menu is to indict the crook Hillary Clinton.
He is in violation of the emoluments clause as of today. Period.
Stuff that doesn't matter.
That is all.
I recall during the elections a lot of anti-Hillary posts on Slashdot. Did you guys think if she lost that Trump wouldn't had won?
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Less H1-b fraud/abuse, more regular employment for those that want it, and a climate where anyone can succeed - not just those that identify correctly.
Even if one opposes him, one should be hoping for success.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
I switched on the radio to hear the evening PM programme (I live in the UK). It was wall to wall Trump; a live broadcast of the choreographed event - public spectacle, not news. Have any more been found alive after that avalanche in Italy, what is happening in The Gambia, ... ?
I'm not anti Trump, nor particularly for him. The news was when he was elected, today was just some pomp and ceremony - but not news.
Promotion of an orange tinted Oompa-Loompa game show host and failed casino operator proves we're living in a simulation.
By Trump's logic, the country is an unstable shambles.
This means there is zero room for failure whatsoever.
Any and every backslide in Global standing, economic prosperity or domestic stability should be interpreted as probably cause for impeachment.
Now watch the the EB Green Card cap being abolished. If all the H1Bs get Greencards salaries will go up as they will start jumping around.
**Life is too short to be serious**
The Anonymous Cowards are going to be out in full force on the comments section of this one.
Or should we call him 'Pussy-Grabber-in-Chief'?
Personally I prefer 'President Pussy-Grabber', and I encourage everyone so inclined to refer to him as such whenver possible.
America first policies abroad?, go fuck yourselves, I hope the world finally starts seeing America as the tyrant it is and your allies stop tolerating your bullshit.
I'm interested to see how many of his "day one" actions he'll keep his word on.
Stuff that matters?
As the president of the largest democratic nation on Earth it matters for all people on Earth, even if they cannot vote for or against that president.
For a country that supposedly has a secular constitution there seemed to be more words spoken by the religious representatives than the politicians.
It seems that Islam was not represented ?
In the UK church and state are not separate but the people would not tolerate that much religious representation at a political event.
I am dismayed by the number of times "God" was referenced, sigh.
FTFY
.. can SMD
News for Nazis
This. Garbage like this is exactly why Trump won the election. I hope you're pleased with yourself.
No, people who espouse racial and religious segregation and internment are Nazis.
Especially in a country that was founded on the exact opposite of those principles.
But keep thinking that you didn't elect a piece of crap as president if it makes you feel better about yourself.
Don't you want to make the America great again?
I didn't vote for the geriatric pussy-grabber.
First, because he's fat and a 2 at best.
Second, because I live in another country.:-)
If Trump had died before being sworn in, would the vice-president elect get prompted or would the Electoral College re-vote?
No really. Some people think America is great because, but it really is a shit hole. I mean really, mass shootings are a regular occurrence, crime is high despite having the largest prison population in the world. The military is supposed to be the greatest in the world but they couldn't even give their soldiers clean water while in Iraq. No real healthcare to speak of. The so called Obamacare was just forcing insurance companies to do things a certain way. It hardly compares to Canada, UK, or EU, all of whom have better life expectancy, better cancer survival rates, and far fewer people going broke for all of it. America has no maternity leave, no paternity leave, still relies heavily on coal for power. The primary and secondary education systems are sub par, and the post-secondary education systems that are half way decent are too expensive for most citizens to afford.
And now they have elected someone who is openly racist. His comments on Mexicans were distasteful at best. His mocking of a disabled reporter seemed like something out of a junior high school drama. And while I wont' necessarily hold locker room talk against him, his public statements are enough to know he is not capable of grasping the nuances of his position. He filled the cabinet positions with people who are incapable of running them.
I honestly don't know why anyone who isn't a foaming-at-the-mouth baffoon would ever want to live in that shithole when Canada, New Zealand, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, etc all exist.
Make America Great Again? It was never really that great to begin with.
Bill Clinton was sitting near the font and there were several women within hands reach (not including his wife obv.).
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I believe "God" is keyword for the CIA.
I love how people kept talking about how the debt increased during Obamas 2 terms, often claiming things he didn't have any control over were somehow his fault (like the costs incurred during his first year, that were actually caused by Bush...).
In reality, it doesn't matter, as we will soon see, the debt WILL continue to rise.
Just a little while after Trump was sworn in, I checked the national debt. It was at about $19,961,832,800,000.
It is now at $19,961,850,000,000+
You will notice I'm not pointing any fingers, or blaiming Trump. I'm simply stating something quite obvious.
Regardless of my feelings about Trump (not even in the US so hey, but his policies will affect me as well), I will say this; We will live in interesting times for the next 4 years or so...
It amazes me that people continue to believe Trump is impulsive. There's nothing impulsive about anything Trump does; it's all extremely calculated. If I didn't know better I was say the press were in collusion to spread that myth in order to make people underestimate Trump, but as usual Occam's razor applies and the press are just full of idiots.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
News for nerds? Stuff that matters?
Maybe the latter, certainly not the former. Is slashdot going to just turn into CNN RSS feed. If so I guess I can skip a step and head over to the original content providers.
He showed just how lazy he is and that he doesn't keep his promises since he promised to protect us. The should have stopped this from happening.
Trump will be remembered, but not fondly.
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I watched him take the oath of office.
He looked grim.
Or impatient.
Or maybe annoyed.
Separation of church and state was actually only ever written in a letter to a Baptist minister who was worried that the government would affect the church, not vice versa. It was always meant to ensure that government could not meddle in the church, NOT to keep the church out of government. Your key word was "tolerate". I think that is a big indicator you are not tolerant as you portend.
45th president 8 more years!!!!
Here's the thing: Everybody is grabbing pussy or dick; it's the human condition.
Im Irish and from what I've seen, there has been an enormous smear campaign against him especially from CNN and all the way back to Jeb Bush who tried to destroy him and fell flat on his face. There's nothing wrong with putting your country first and America's prosperity is good for Europe. My only concern is that he has establishment enemies, liberal extremelist enemies, and radical islamic fundamentalist enemies. The secret service need to be up to the task. I believe he is a good man for the most part.
Trump and systemd... here to stay.
Then your doctor at the clinic will say no, that's just your prolapsed rectum and herpes flaring up again.
I am hoping many.
Crying is good too.
Why is it so hard to only have politicians for a few years, then have them go away?
That would be India. Over a billion people with democratic elections.
Only slightly more corrupt than the US.
Personally I am partial to Trumplestiltskin, Drumpf, Emperor Trumpatine, and, since he named all of his opponents "cute" names, like "Lyin' Ted" and "Crooked Hillary", we should call him by a name that befits his actions and beliefs too. That's a long list. Take a deep breath, "Lying narcissistic, misogynist, racist, sociopathic, did I mention lying, tax-dodging Donald". But hey! Make America Sick Again!
While I'll admit that Mr. President Trump's speech offers little hope to me that he will make America whole again, he has only been with in as President, not Fuhrer. It does feel unpleasantly like cresting the first rise in a roller coaster, but at this point we have no real choice but to see where the ride goes . . . and by vigilance and proper engagement in the political process try to keep the ride from going off the rails.
America is definitely not a secular state.
The first amendment says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; "
The government cannot prohibit citizens from exercising their religion. The whole separation of church and state is from something Thomas Jefferson wrote but its not in the constitution or bill of rights. It was their first amendment right to exercise their religious beliefs during the inauguration (as it would be anytime).
Stuff that matters?
As the president of the largest democratic nation on Earth it matters for all people on Earth, even if they cannot vote for or against that president.
Wait.... He's president of Canada now??
Trump for prez!
"Trump raised his right hand and put his left on a Bible used by Abraham Lincoln"
I kind of thought god might smite Trump when he touched the bible. Though I guess ending up with Pence in charge might be worse.
...be full of well balanced debate, thoughtful insights, and courteous discourse.
Dang it, now where did I put my prescription?
Are you saying "Fuck..." as a leftist, knowing that the upcoming success of President Trump's economic and social policies will leave leftism in America ruined, possibly forever?
Are you saying "Fuck..." as a foreigner who wishes to illegally bypass America's border controls and immigration procedures?
Are you saying "Fuck..." as a foreign capitalist who will no longer be able to exploit imbalanced "fair trade" deals?
Are you saying "Fuck..." as a Democrat politician, knowing that your party is splintering and becoming increasing irrelevant at all levels of politics?
This is actually an incredibly positive and encouraging time for many Americans. There's actually a great chance that they'll see economic and social policies that will truly benefit them. This is the first time we've seen this in decades. America's future is now looking brighter than it has in a very long time.
Might want to step out of your echo chamber. There is a whole world out there that is contrary to your circle jerk.
I half expect him to crash the economy and not have a fucking clue what to do about it.
Or start a war over something pointless.
No, Nazis are a specific brand of racial and religious supremacy. And you can say that Trump is a bad person without saying he's a Nazi (he'd be a really bad one, seeing as how his daughter converted to Judaism).
Examine even your most deeply held beliefs. Nobody is always right.
So you're saying Trump won the election because people think he's a Nazi?
The U.S. is almost equally divided after every Presidential election. Why is it that this phrase is only trotted out when a Republican is sworn in?
And a barbarian sat on the throne of Rome.
Drill baby drill - on Mars
So, what you're really saying is that FDR was a NAZI?
I'm also quite certain that Trump isn't at all likely to invade Russia heading into a winter, so there is that, too.
Less H1-b fraud/abuse, more regular employment for those that want it, and a climate where anyone can succeed - not just those that identify correctly.
Yes, in Trump's America, anyone can succeed... as long as they were born rich.
Even if one opposes him, one should be hoping for success.
That is true. We're all in the plane he just took over the controls of; we really shouldn't hope for it to crash.
First of all, there's no indication that President Trump is interested in an expansionist policy.
I know, mate. He'll probably sell Alaska back to Russia now.
Drill baby drill - on Mars
The road to success is always littered with uncourageous naysayers.
It seems there is ***only*** two kinds of people, those that agree with Trump and those who do not. None will come to a common ground, there will be no trades or bargaining. It will be either you go along with me or you can just f---off. Lots of luck for a united people.
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That didn't take long. Keep thinking everyone who disagrees with you is a Nazi.
...you mean like our intelligence agencies?
I think my major concern with the next few years is that he's a bit of a loose cannon. You don't want a loose cannon who's obviously quite sensitive when pushed on things negotiating with other countries or making impulsive decisions that are hard to undo. I doubt he'd start a war (intentionally) but I really think he has to lay off the late-night Twitter. Telegraphing exactly what bothers you to your adversaries isn't a smart move. Sure, you can argue it's all a show, but some of the anger he's displayed with the press, his critics, etc. show that it's very hard to hide his feelings and just keep quiet.
Here's what I'm mainly worried about -- now that Trump's President, the gloves come off of every single loud-mouthed, opinionated angry citizen who loves to moan and complain. By providing an example of "acceptable" behavior via his constant personal attacks on people, I think he's going to signal to everyone that they no longer need to be civil to one another. I know a lot of people who just aren't happy unless they're railing loudly against anyone and anything. Having that be the starting point for any discussion or debate for the next 4 or 8 years is going to lead to further retrenchment of people into their respective camps. I for one can't stand engaging with people who come out swinging, looking for a fight on every little thing...it's just not a personality type I'm interested in dealing with. The world's complex enough already and life's short, so why waste processor cycles arguing pointlessly?
One thing I did like about the Obama years was that he was a very approachable President. Even when the political rancor was at its worst, with a few exceptions he took the high road in these arguments. I doubt we're going to see that very much anymore -- it's going to be years of angry press conferences and sound bites.
No really. Some people think America is great because, but it really is a shit hole. I mean really, mass shootings are a regular occurrence, crime is high despite having the largest prison population in the world.
Violent crime is pretty much at an all-time low. Reading the news is a bit misleading on this score.
http://www.ontheissues.org/Crime_Victim_Chart.gif
So, all the celebrities are going to move to Canada now, right?
First of all, there's no indication that President Trump is interested in an expansionist policy. In fact, the evidence suggests the opposite, that America will be entering a period of increasing isolationism and self-sufficiency.
Until he determines that he needs to protect ethnic Americans in the Sudetenland.
A fine is a tax you pay for doing wrong and a tax is a fine you pay for doing all right.
Figures!
It is quite ridiculous. It seems that despite political correctness advancements, it would still be impossible for an atheist (that is, anyone who is not terminally insane yapping about jebus and imaginary sky fairies) to become president in the USA.
Lets get this straight, people: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GOD!
One has to be pretty drooling stupid to believe in that child-molesting garbage, yet in front of the people who are supposed to be running this country they have these retarded blathering idiots going on about their magic sky daddies and friends.
It is one thing to make a president swear on some 2000 year old book of BS because tradition. But there no excuse for the rest. None at all.
As an atheist it reminds me that I am not represented and that people would still be happy to come at me with their torches and pitchforks.
Which religion? The only thing that I read was that Hitler wanted to replace all the churches with the state and kept existing religions around as a temporary convenience
I guess it depends on your definition of "largest."
When talking about a system of government, geographically largest doesn't really make any sense. Population, however, makes a whole lot of sense.
Slashdot still doesnâ(TM)t support Unicode after it was added to the HTML standard in 1997.
No, not NAZI, think Orange is when one mixes Pinko with shit.
That's who Trump answers to, not us. :-/
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it is in the bill of rights. that would be amendments 1-10
Hitler was 1/4 Jewish
You fucks didn't learn anything.
Keep it up, nominate a red next round...eight years.
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Slashdot social media options: AIM, ICQ, Yahoo, Jabber and Mobile Text. Why no MySpace?
Are you self medicating, again?
Tolerance is indeed the key term. And every time religion gets involved in government, we get laws that try to impose a particular set of religious laws on everybody else.
--- Most topics have many sides worth arguing, allow me to take one opposite you.
No, he won because the Democratic Party is too busy tripping over their hypocritical statements and actions. You know, the party of inclusion that can't wait to have 60+ sitting congresspersons "boycott" the inauguration of the president that they now have to work with. Their candidate for president was even there, and tweeting about working together. Yet these petty and petulant asshats can't see that the inauguration is a celebration of the institution, and not of the man being sworn in.
The divisiveness only continues to get worse as long as these douchebags can't see that they are the ones perpetuating the problem.
Slashdot still doesnâ(TM)t support Unicode after it was added to the HTML standard in 1997.
We religiously defend the separation of church and state here in the US (except for Christianity).
The United States is three times the size of India.
If you're talking about population. India is by far the world's largest democracy.
If you're talking about land size. Canada is the world's largest democracy. (unless you consider Russia democratic- then it is).
If you're talking about weight of the average person then... yes... in that scenario, the US is the largest democracy.
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
Canada and Russia which have elections would be...
End of an error. :D
This is actually an incredibly positive and encouraging time for many Americans. There's actually a great chance that they'll see economic and social policies that will truly benefit them.
lol cool story bro. Most Americans are not billionaires, unfortunately.
It goes back much farther than that. How about Nixon and Agnew? Also there was Eisenhower and Nixon.
In all fairness no one knows what kind of President Trump is going to be, not even Trump.
I didn't like Clinton but way preferred the devil I knew and voted for her. The Euros upthread under the illusion that Trump is going to be better on foreign policy will most likely learn the hard way. Will he be worse? Who knows. Not even Trump.
Mod parent up.
So far the majority of any hate I've seen is only from anti-Trump posters insulting Trump supporters. I believe YOU sir, started the hatefest.
So you think Israel should just unilaterally abandon the Two STate Solution and start colonizing Palestinian territory? I'm generally a supporter of Israel, but those illegal settlements are deliberately provocative.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
It seems that Islam was not represented ?
I am dismayed by the number of times "God" was referenced, sigh.
Well, Islam and Christianity do worship the same god, so.....
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
If a president-elect dies AFTER the electoral college, the VP becomes president and picks a new VP who is confirmed by Congress.
On the other hand, if the president-elect were to die between election Tuesday and the electoral college, things get much more interesting. The electoral college would choose (at least initially) but state laws limit their choices. State laws which bind electors but don't account for death make it tricky. Likely, the VP-elect would become president (Pence in this case), and the LOSING VP candidate (Tim Kaine) would become VP.
http://presidentelect.org/art_...
if being courageous means acting like hill-dog supporters this last election cycle. No thank you. I don't need that kind of cancer in my life.
I don't hold my breathe to get my way. if i don't get my way i don't cry and throw a tantrum like a spoiled child that was never told 'no'.
Absolutely agree, Hillary was endeavoring to establish a new Cold War with Russia. Over largely baseless accusations, and actions that utterly pale in comparison to what America has done to its rivals and even its allies.
Meanwhile, folks think rich always want war. And perhaps certain wars benefited oil moguls, etc. But Trump is a real estate billionaire. Hotels, resorts, properties. War is NOT GOOD for those type of businesses. First off, tourism plummets, second their buildings are often destroyed. So I suspect that Trump will be far less likely to engage in armed conflict.
I'd be very curious, and laugh my butt off if he stopped our bombings. What would the Democrats say if Trump went 4 years without bombing any countries.
That was pretty much it. He used the churches to bolster gradual approval for his plans. His only god was himself.
But he won the game. And that was the point. And had it been about the popular vote. Trump would of campaigned differently, focused only on the large cities. And since he would of got almost all of the rural votes by default, he'd only have to swing a few points in a couple of cities. And he could of easily won the popular vote.
But what point is there in winning a few million more votes in California to be popular if it doesn't help you get elected?
If he moves the US embassy to Jerusalem, expect a shit storm in the Middle East.
As happened with Putin in Russia, I'm expecting a fabricated crisis greater than 9/11, which will cause The People to hand their power over to Drumpf.
No, he won because the Democratic Party is too busy tripping over their hypocritical statements and actions. You know, the party of inclusion that can't wait to have 60+ sitting congresspersons "boycott" the inauguration of the president that they now have to work with. Their candidate for president was even there, and tweeting about working together. Yet these petty and petulant asshats can't see that the inauguration is a celebration of the institution, and not of the man being sworn in.
The divisiveness only continues to get worse as long as these douchebags can't see that they are the ones perpetuating the problem.
I'm sure that the Democrats will show all the support and understanding to Trump that the Republicans showed to Obama.
The fact that there's a whole shitload of stupid people out there doesn't change the fact that those people are wrong.
I am not mad at people like you because Clinton lost. I am unconcerned that we have different politics. And I don’t think less of people like you because you vote one way and I vote another. I think less of people like you because you watched an adult mock a disabled person in front of a crowd and still supported him. I think less of you because you saw a man spouting clear racism and backed him. I think less of you because you listened to him advocate for war crimes, and still thought he should run this country. I think less of people like you because you watched him equate a woman’s worth to her appearance and got on board. It isn’t your politics that I find repulsive. It is your personal willingness to support racism, sexism, and cruelty. You sided with a bully when it mattered and that is something I will never forget. So, no people like you and I won’t be “coming together” to move forward or whatever. Trump disgusts me, but it is the fact that he doesn’t disgust people like you that will stick with me long after this election.
So ... Brits were Nazis, Americans were Nazis, Japanese were Nazis... pretty much everyone was Nazi by that definition, at least at some point of history.
Whew. I guess the Germans are finally off the hook now that they're basically like everyone else.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Trump is certainly *different* from previous Presidents and major candidates in important ways. Some good differences, some bad, and some with both good and bad aspects. We'll see what happens. I've been wrong when I predicted what Obama and Bush Jrs presidencies would be like, so I'm not going to try to predict Trump - we just have to wait and see.
Bad includes his seemingly impulsive Twitter comments to "fight back" against criticism. He probably should have ignored Meryl Streep, for example.
Good includes the fact that he's not dependent on campaign contributors like almost all major politicians are.
We'll just see where the roulette ball lands. I'll oppose any bad policies he proposes and support any good ones.
We did this to ourselves. No matter what it feels like, the fact is our system of government has functioned (and continues to function) exactly as designed. If Mr. President Trump is not likely to make America whole again, the task falls to us, the citizenry of this (long great and still great) nation. We must oppose insanity with calm and deliberate purpose, not with incohate and aimless rage.
Less H1-b fraud/abuse, more regular employment for those that want it, and a climate where anyone can succeed
The whole H1-b thing has already been put to rest. Nothing is going to happen there.
As far as the other two things, those are outside the powers of the President.
*sigh*
Fine, let's go by area. Then it would be Russia.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
No, he won because there's a whole swatch of pout and out stupid people in the middle of the country. People who couldn't see that he was and is a con man, and that he bullshits his way to the top. He's appointed people to agencies who literally have no idea what the agency they are appointed to does. He has turned ignorance and malevolence into a virtue, and then idiots like you accuse the left of being divisive?
This post +++++++
Really? Please tell us how not filling the unknown with fairy tails is ridiculous.
How would you like it if you went to watch some important event and they spent a huge chunk of the event talking (or in this case even singing!) about how wrong you and your ways are.
That is the icon of the democratic party on the banner for this story. While Trump has been known to have held both sides of most matters lately, I have yet to see him call himself a democrat - and he most certainly did not have their endorsement to run for president.
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
For all the shit Trump gets (deservedly so) he is no tea party asshole. He's as much a Republican as Jesus is an atheist. The real danger to us, is not him but Pence. 4 years are going to pass quickly, but if Trump dies (he's 70 so who knows) we'll have a christian conservative at the head of the country and a senate and house of representatives full of tea party nutholes. That's where the real damage will come from.
I believe "God" is keyword for the CIA.
No, God is what Trump likes to call himself.
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
You mean like the Tea Party tantrums of 2009? I didn't forget about those. Did you?
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Those are all false statements with no truth whatsoever.
Or a Russian hacker!
Pics or it didn't happen.
Actually, the "whole world" mostly agrees that Trump is a somewhere between an incompetent buffoon and a despicable nazi. It's only your little echo chamber in the US that thinks different.
One might say, its ++good.
No, people who espouse racial and religious segregation and internment are Nazis.
Nazi America government interring Japanese Americans ring a bell?
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
In the rust belt. Full stop. Young people, blacks and Latinos stayed home. If you doubt me 538 had a meticulously sourced article on the subject. Hilary was arrogant. She assumed no sane country would elect Trump. She was wrong, and we're all gonna pay for it. For God's sake people, vote in your mid terms.
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The United States is three times the size of India.
And both Canada and Russia are larger than the United States geographically. I guess that would make one of them the largest democratic nation in the world if we were to go by geographic size. But we don't, not when we talk about "largest democracy." People vote, rocks don't.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
Oh, it works, if my discussions with friends who voted for Hillary are any measure. Every last one of them conceded Hillary's weaknesses, but insisted she was a better pick than misogynistic, homophobic, racist Trump. And I can't really blame them for that opinion based on how much the media drilled that impression in. But while I agree that there are people who voted for the Great Pumpkin specifically because of the exaggerated and hysterical rhetoric used by the media, I think Hillary's defeat primarily came from her campaign's smugness about victory. The final weeks before the election, the message was consistently "Hillary's got this one, and Trump doesn't stand a chance." What hubris! What stupidity! That basically told all her supporters that it wasn't critical they get out and vote, while telling Trump's just how desperate the situation was.
But then, Hillary's campaign was a series of mismanaged debacles.
They are all true statements. I wouldn't expect Trump voters to care much about the truth though.
Correction: "Will he back down, or double down?"
Table-ized A.I.
And influence (read: money) makes even more sense.
India can't even compete there yet. Give 'em a few decades, but they'll still lack the experience.
The lesson learned by the British between the US colonial times and India's turn in that barrel was to leave far less expertise behind for the colony to build from. The US got the benefit of the lazy security of the British empire at that time, while India got screwed hard by a much more security-conscious empire. Sure, they successfully gained their independence. They didn't successfully gain their former masters' expertise at government or economics. They're doing quite well in spite of it, but will take a LOT longer to reach the level that the US did during the industrial revolution.
Think of it this way: The US went from rebellious colony causing too much trouble to hold on to but not providing enough wealth to bring the big guns out to defend in 1776 to being a military contender that can beat its former imperial overlord's military repeatedly in 1826 to being a global industrial powerhouse in 1876 to being the bigger half of the "top dog" team that it formed with its former imperial overlord by 1926 to performing feats no other country has yet matched by 1976 (the space program is a good example).
How's India's pace going? Gained independence in 1947, and by 1997 it's a burgeoning wage-slave labor pool marketing itself on the global market. Where will it be in 2047? Not setting the world's pace in anything, most likely. It's under the shadow of both the US and China, and probably won't break free of it.
India is not going to be an influential part of the world scene in any major way. Ever. Their timing just wasn't right.
https://youtu.be/Wr0FljlIGhc
That's why he won. You keep calling people stupid and deplorable if they happen to live in the middle of the country. What a hateful person you are.
When I take an objective look at the policies of President Trump, they differ significantly from those of Nazi Germany.
Trump doesn't bring in Nazi Germany's policies, definitely, but let's not kid ourselves here when he retweets people who are very open Nazi supporters. He may not be directly peddling their beliefs, but he sure as hell doesn't shy away from them either, and I'd have thought people who be a little more opposed to that. I'm German as well as American, and I still have a little chest in my attic that contains the Nazi papers for my grandmother, proving her "racial purity" and "ability to support the fatherland through childbirth". Next to that are the papers that notify her her husband was executed for "violations of peace and order", with his protesting. It serves as a nice reminder sometimes, what we were all collectively lucky enough to avoid. It's really not a sexy time period to have lived in, and I really would have thought that'd be more of a detriment to people who champion being against the Soviet Union and Russia, places with an absolutely awful record on human rights and standards of living. Ahhhh, but that's not a problem for people today either, eh?
isolationism and self-sufficiency
For the US, these don't really work. Think about it; what are our greatest industries? If you said agriculture, entertainment, and the dominance of the tech industry, you'd be correct. What use is a ridiculous surplus, movies, and a strong control of the industry if there's no use to sell them too? What exactly are we going to do with the ridiculous excess of corn we make every year if nobody wants to buy it?
The emphasis on greater border security, including the building of physical barriers, also backs up the idea that America won't be trying to expand its borders beyond where they are today. These are well-established borders, and have been for a very long time.
Fully agree. Once we collectively realized what asses we were to the Native Americans, thankfully, we (mostly) left behind our expansionist bullshit. I both think and hope we keep it that way. Fortunately, Obama was pretty in favor of border enforcement, as was Hillary Clinton, and virtually every other Democrat. The debate is about what we do with people who've lived in our own country for years but don't have our citizenship; it's probably worth noting that many people born, raised, and died in America also lack these papers or documents proving their citizenship except for maybe a birth certificate.
Actually enforcing long-standing immigration and border regulations is not "racism", as some people appear to incorrectly believe. These regulations apply to all people, regardless of race or other such attributes.
Not sure who this was aimed at, but Obama most definitely enforced immigration rules, and he even gets shit for that from some Democrats. If he let too many people stay, better ring up Bush, Bush Sr, or Reagan, because they all enforced their rules less than he did. (Regan even gave those criminal immigrants a permanent stay, clearly he must've been from Lithuania and only pretended to be an American and isn't really one)
Based on everything we've seen so far, President Trump's administration is actually putting the interests of all Americans first and foremost. This is the first time we've seen this in many decades.
The first comment I think you're flat out wrong. When you get past the Goldman-Sachs guy who wants to lower regulations on his industry, the EPA guy who wants to sue himself and then set precedent for stupid standards for his industry, and the president who wants to get insider deals for hiiiiiis industry, we can maybe start with Republicans & Trump repealing an act that will kill tens of thousands of people, or a guy who wants to concentrate on publicity stunts and shows focusing on his own glory i
"Set a man a fire, he'll be warm for the rest of the night. Set a man afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
Idiots like you fucked up by not showing enough support for Sanders.
Hitler was 1/4 Jewish
So blood determines your religion? Interesting...
So are all Christians jewish? Or are all people Pagans?
In today's newspaper there's an article that says the new administration still has 3500 (out of 4000) political positions to fill, far more than previous administrations. Has Trump been taken by surprise by his own success?
Nuh uh, you are the one who is hateful for calling hateful people hateful.
Keeping illegal aliens out of the country isn't "racial segregation", moron. It's just enforcing your borders. Are are you too stupid to fathom the difference between illegal and naturalized? This country was never founded on the idea of "Hey, come on over, no questions asked". Nobody does that.
Internment was never even an option, check your hysteria.
Trump also rescinded the muslim immigration suspension suggestion (which was never more than a suggestion) to something more practical: harder vetting from problem countries known for terrorism. Europe is starting to look at that option too. Pres Carter did it too, with Iran. Oh hey, speaking of Presidents who did that too, how about FDR and his Japanese internment camps? Now that was actual internment, but he's a hero of the left, isn't he? Hypocrite.
Lets get this straight, people: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GOD!
Share that with Him when you see Him, will you? That aught to make for an interesting conversation with Him.
One has to be pretty drooling stupid to believe in that child-molesting garbage, yet in front of the people who are supposed to be running this country they have these retarded blathering idiots going on about their magic sky daddies and friends.
Because while those "blathering idiots" may be wrong, there really is no harm, right? Just pandering to the brain-dead, knuckle-dragging, mouth breathers out in fly over country, yeah? But if by some weird cosmic chance you are wrong? I fear for your immortal soul. And I will pray for you.
I will leave the torches and pitchforks to the all so-tolerant left leaning politicos. If you happen to be in DC, dodge the molotov cocktails.
But at least he is not from the samey samey backstabbing american politico class and not afraid to to push people noses out.
Blame CA-NA-DA, Blame CA-NA-DA! Or wait a while, someone even worse than Trump when it comes to humans over money (Kevin O'Leary - "You're a cockroach" "The message is the medium, and the medium is money. " "Money’s great, money’s the point of everything., " "Unless there’s money to be earned, I don’t take meetings with people I don’t know or need to see" [On describing himself.] Slightly right of Attila the Hun.", - and the biggest lie - "The money will never lie" ) wants to be Prime Minister of Canada.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
Ah yes, an "Americans are fat joke". Very good.
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"If you're talking about weight of the average person then... yes... in that scenario, the US is the largest democracy."
Thanks you insensitive clod. I was happily going about my day and now am reminded I need to get on the treadmill. *sigh*
No, he won because the Democratic Party is too busy tripping over their hypocritical statements and actions. You know, the party of inclusion that can't wait to have 60+ sitting congresspersons "boycott" the inauguration of the president that they now have to work with. Their candidate for president was even there, and tweeting about working together. Yet these petty and petulant asshats can't see that the inauguration is a celebration of the institution, and not of the man being sworn in.
The divisiveness only continues to get worse as long as these douchebags can't see that they are the ones perpetuating the problem.
I'm sure that the Democrats will show all the support and understanding to Trump that the Republicans showed to Obama.
By the way they are starting (by boycotting the inauguration), I think they are attempting to one-up the Republicans on this front...
Sorry, you're not Atheist. You're anti-theist. If you were truly atheist, you wouldn't care if people believed in FSM, Jesus, Buhdda, or Cthulhu or nothing at all.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
The 'separation' envisioned by the founders was that the state couldn't force you to join a state-sponsored church, not that government leaders had to act like atheists. Even then, some states ran their own churches through quite a bit of the 1800s.
That would be India. Over a billion people with democratic elections.
Only slightly more corrupt than the US.
This is obviously some strange usage of the word "slightly" that I wasn't previously aware of.
You may be right about the improbability of an atheist being elected, and I, for one, am glad. It isn't like we've had a great many presidents who actually followed Christ's teaching. Some have certainly done a better job than others. If more Christians lived up to what He expected of us, perhaps you wouldn't be so bitter.
God doesn't care about political correctness. He cares about being correct according to His precepts and His commandments. God loves everyone. He just hates what everyone does for part or most of their lives. If you don't wish to avail yourself of His method of reconciliation to Him and try to live up to those standards with His grace covering those times you fail to measure up, that has and always will be your choice. He's laid out the consequences of the free choice you are making. Hearts are rarely converted with torches and pitchforks.
Religion in the government? The USA is a third-world country.
The USA is in great danger... The world too!
First of all, there's no indication that President Trump is interested in an expansionist policy.
I know, mate. He'll probably sell Alaska back to Russia now.
While we are at it, maybe we can give California back to Mexico and the Oregon territories back to the British-Canadians...
This is actually an incredibly positive and encouraging time for many Americans. There's actually a great chance that they'll see economic and social policies that will truly benefit them.
lol cool story bro. Most Americans are not billionaires, unfortunately.
My investments are up, I'm less likely to have to train my H1B replacement, and I might get my old health plan back. Two hours in and it's looking pretty good.
The birth certificate issue isn't over. Trump *will* release Obama's real birth certificate.
Seriously? Can't say I'd noticed. Thanks Slashdot, for reporting the sort of stuff that we'd otherwise miss out on.
Hey! I resemble that remark!
Trump already Godwin'ed himself for real days ago.
Rule 35 of the internet: "If it can be hacked, it will be". - Charles Stross
A country founded by wealthy slave owners you mean.
But only because of Alaska.
She won her current home state of New York, and her home state of Illinois (also Reagan's home state) by pretty large margins. He took 31 decisively, she took 20 decisively, Maine is split, but he has a slight margin.
SHUSH! You'll ruin his narrative!
Next you'll be telling him that there's no separation of church and state in the Constitution, only the guaranteed right to be free to practice religion and the restriction against the state establishing a religion.
When you said, "As the president of the largest democratic nation on Earth it matters for all people on Earth"
You are saying the US is a larger democracy than India because our landmass is larger?
Than the prior statement about the US being the word's largest democracy would have to be Russia or Canada, etc.
If its is by population is not by the US either.
http://www.hawknest.com/
Did anyone QA the thing? What a trainwreck! Maybe even "Sad!"
I found a dead link (copyright policy link at the bottom, which goes to an unknown server named "edit-45"), two merged sections of his policy plans ("America First Foreign Policy" includes the full text of "Trade Deals Working For All Americans"), and some sort of odd horizontal rule thing going on at "Bringing Back Jobs And Growth."
Where's my news for nerds?
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Israeli settlements, apartheid, and theft of land and water are Nazi strategies.
But in true Nazi form, as long as this fundamental injustice is perpetrated by them on others, Neo-Nazi Jews sig heil and goose step into Palestine without the slightest consideration of just how ironic this whole thing is...
yeah!
Is he homophobic? I get the first two but I don't remember any homophobia.
And it's assholes like you that give the rest of us a bad name. There should be a way to delineate between 'does not believe in a god' and 'fervently evangelizes that there is no god'. I suppose 'asshole' will have to do for the latter.
Sure, I don't believe in any of it either. But I can provide exactly as much evidence to disprove the existence of a god as they can to prove one exists. I would, after all, be trying to prove a negative. I'm secure enough in my own beliefs and identity to be okay with someone else possessing a belief I find to be completely irrational. Provided, of course, that they aren't trying to enforce it's strictures upon me or anyone else without the consent of such. Even then the problem isn't the belief, it's the asshole wielding it.
While not being able to deal with differences in beliefs in a mature manner puts you squarely alongside about 90% of the US population, it doesn't make you right. In fact, as the Trump election shows, vehement attack on the beliefs of the god-fearing tends to cause them to double down. You really want people to give up religion and become atheist? Stop giving them reason to believe that atheists are fucking pricks.
If you're still unable to reconcile your beliefs with the general beliefs of a nation largely settled and founded by what amounts to religious fundamentalists, I'm given to understand that there are more secular countries out there who might be a better match for your beliefs. You're welcome to move to one of them.
Glad it's working for you my friend. You are the minority unfortunately. And I wouldn't hold out hope on that health plan thing, it's going to be a wild ride on that front...
The Nazis and the Israelis were and are pro-annexation. Obama was anti-annexation, or, at the very least, neutral.
I'm not the OP, but I am saying "Fuck..." as a Canadian who wished to see the US continue to be healthy and have a positive relationship with the rest of the world.
Instead, I see its government being taken over by a President who has demonstrably and repeatedly lied, who continues to control his financial empire while preventing his countrymen from seeing what exactly comprises that empire, who is unapologetically and thoroughly indulging in nepotism.
I see an executive that is made up of the richest, most powerful people of any cabinet in history, who have no need to change the economic and social policies because they, more than anyone else, have benefitted from the existing policies and therefore see no need to alter them to allow anyone else access to wealth.
I see a government that refuses to use science or evidence as a basis for its decisions, but glorifies ignorance and mocks education.
I see more attention being given to racial/cultural differences within the U.S., at a time when it finally looked like you were going to start moving past that bullshit.
To be entirely honest, I think that historians will look back and see that this election marked the beginning of the decline of the American Empire, with its government completely captured by the plutocracy and sound decision-making giving way to bombast, uninformed emotionalism, and slavish attention to soundbites and Tweets.
No, he won because the Democratic Party is too busy tripping over their hypocritical statements and actions. You know, the party of inclusion that can't wait to have 60+ sitting congresspersons "boycott" the inauguration of the president that they now have to work with. Their candidate for president was even there, and tweeting about working together. Yet these petty and petulant asshats can't see that the inauguration is a celebration of the institution, and not of the man being sworn in.
The divisiveness only continues to get worse as long as these douchebags can't see that they are the ones perpetuating the problem.
I'm sure that the Democrats will show all the support and understanding to Trump that the Republicans showed to Obama.
By the way they are starting (by boycotting the inauguration), I think they are attempting to one-up the Republicans on this front...
Apparently Romney and other Republicans also boycotted Obama's inauguration, apparently for the specific purpose of planning obstruction to anything he was going to do. Still trying to hunt down specifics though, but it hardly seems they are doing anything surprising.
It is quite ridiculous. It seems that despite political correctness advancements, it would still be impossible for an atheist (that is, anyone who is not terminally insane yapping about jebus and imaginary sky fairies) to become president in the USA.
With this attitude, you're probably right. Yes, I'm one of the handful of Christians that frequent Slashdot; there are indeed a handful of us. If you don't share the same set of beliefs as I do, that is absolutely you're right. If you are unhappy that there aren't more atheists in government, I completely understand that (to an extent, I'd even agree). If you're going to be insulting and degrading in the process, then you're going to find sympathy pretty hard to come by.
Lets get this straight, people: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GOD!
I disagree. I also know that I cannot empirically prove my stance, and thus cannot and will not fault you from arriving at a different conclusion. Telling me what I should believe, however, is the very behavior your post seems to find unacceptable.
One has to be pretty drooling stupid to believe in that child-molesting garbage
Yes, the Christian/Catholic church has had issues with this in the past, and I do not for a moment defend them. However, molesting children is far from a core tenet of the belief system, and millions upon millions of Christians manage to go through life, pursuing their faith, and are successful in doing so without molesting children. Moreover, a spiritual belief system need not be a direct reflection upon intelligence. A successful heart surgeon who has gotten a Ph.D. is, in all likelihood, a pretty intelligent person. If they also happen to believe in Islam, Hinduism, Taoism, or an faith derived from a tribe of Indigenous Americans, that doesn't mean they aren't intelligent or that I wouldn't let them operate on me if I needed open heart surgery, only that they do not share my faith.
yet in front of the people who are supposed to be running this country they have these retarded blathering idiots going on about their magic sky daddies and friends.
1. So don't watch it? Or DVR it and fast forward the religious leaders?
2. For what it's worth, I'm of the persuasion that this is far more a matter of pandering than an intent to set the course for the country. If the majority of people who voted for the winner were another group, there probably would have been people pandering to them instead.
It is one thing to make a president swear on some 2000 year old book of BS because tradition. But there no excuse for the rest. None at all.
See above.
As an atheist it reminds me that I am not represented and that people would still be happy to come at me with their torches and pitchforks.
Has anybody threatened your life on the sole basis of your faith? If not, are you honestly of the persuasion that the only reason people have not done so is because it's illegal? There's some credibility to the point that there are few (if any) atheists in Congress, but would you vote for somebody on the sole basis that they share your views regarding God (or a lack thereof), even if your views were opposite on foreign policy, NSA wiretapping, gun legslation, health care, economic changes, the educational system, and other things that they would actually be responsible to address and legislate?
To be clear, I don't believe he is any of those things, except perhaps in the most extreme interpretation of each adjective. However, various media sources tried really hard to paint him as anything bad they could possibly hope to get to stick.
If you're talking about population. India is by far the world's largest democracy.
India is not a democracy. The establishment openly sponsors the caste system. Democracy is not just about having elections.
The largest democracy IS the USA.
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Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
They went back in time and managed to divert Helios 685, but it didn't eliminate time travel or the fucked up future.
People who couldn't see that he was and is a con man, and that he bullshits his way to the top.
That's why I voted for him! It is entertaining to watch
The problem with you is not your philosophy, it is your attitude.
Let's rephrase the argument:
I despise modern art. I find it to be utter, utter crap. Blobs of color that a 3 year old could paint if they had no taste. However, there are people willing to waste literally millions of dollars on it. There are two approaches I can take to this.
One, I can not go to Modern Art galleries, not purchase modern art, and generally avoid it. This is called "consumer choice" and is the mature approach to the situation.
Or, two, I can go to galleries, berate people to their faces and call them morons, throw feces and urine on their most respected pieces of "art", and petition the government to remove all modern art from all government places, and sue if they won't comply. This is called, "Douche-baggery" and is the choice you and many other atheists and atheist groups have made.
If anyone gets in your face, it's because of your attitude.
Yes, there are a lot of deluded people in the world, but pointing out their delusion does not endear you to them. Don't believe me? Try pointing out to a group of programmers which editor is better, vi or emacs, spaces or tabs, or C++ vs. Java.
And, by the way, the biggest delusion anyone has is that they know the absolute truth and are totally right in any situation, on any social topic.
Life, the Universe, and Everything... in my image.
Now is the hour for every civil suit and criminal charge under the sun to fall upon CHUMP. Let his misery and suffering begin. Use every tactic possible to drive this filth out of government. Zero compromise and zero cooperation and zero attempts to do anything but drive this creep nuts. Impeachment calls every week please from any and all of us. This creep will never be my leader.
Having helped elect Trump, I hope you get everything you asked for, you certainly deserve everything you get.
Two of my imaginary friends reproduced once
There are lots of easy targets about Trump you can go after, but for me, one of the biggest and most important, is the precedent he has set with the tone of his campaign.
Trump was elected, and he was elected even after displaying a very racist, bigoted and xenophobic tone, that attracted white supremacists and nazis to his ranks. Over and over again he displayed behavior that can only be described as bullying, and over and over he got away with it. Then when the Access Hollywood video of him came out, with what he said, and the fact that people didn't care. They didn't care about any of it.
This shows how far the US has fallen when it comes to integrity and morality, and lowers the bar quite low for future politicians. Essentially there is no bar now, and a large segment of the American population wants a "strong leader"(aka autocrat), that will demonize "the other".
Now that Trump has shown that it doesn't matter how much of a scumbag you really are, you can still get elected, all the more power to the vile sociopaths out there with dreams of reaching the presidency.
The US has now become like a third world country, and it will only get worse.
There will be a wall, it will be to keep Americans out of Canada.
doesn't mexico hold the tile of largest democracy?
God help people who have kids that will go in to wars this clown starts.
But violence is exactly how the church did it. Oh and kudos for the preaching. People always like the idea of being led by zero imagination dogma quoting self appointed authorities. Kill them all and let god sort them out.
If you're going to split hairs, the USA is a constitutional republic.
Pure democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on 'what's for dinner', it doesn't work. Needs hard limits on the power of the majority.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
"You called Trump voters deplorable ? I'm a Trump voter so you called me deplorable !
Well, then I'll vote for Trump (an narcissist pathological liar and a bully) and burn my house down.
See what you made me do ?"
Yes, that makes perfect sense. -_-
They are indeed deplorable. And they will probably be the first to pay for their vote.
Because of this my feelings are swinging between sad an neutral. (I cannot be happy for the impending doom of millions of people, even if they are morons)
To be clear, racism misogyny and other bigotry permeated the Trump campaign, tinging almost every speech and appearance.
Trump's bigotry is the reason that people declare "Trump is saying what we've all been thinking!"
No, I think Palestine should have taken the Two State solution offered by Israel a few years ago, but refused and went on a rampage over it.
The problem is, you think that Palestine wants a two state solution, and they don't. It has been offered, repeatedly, and they keep refusing.
And I wonder why you don't mention the Palestinians "Illegally" launching rockets into Israel. Or the time that Israel pulled its settlements out of Gaza, only to have them turned into rocket launching sites. I'm talking functioning industry and farms being walked away from and turning back into desert because ... Palestinians don't want anything the Jews had built.
Palestinians are functionally incapably of peace at this time.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
If he moves the US embassy to Jerusalem, expect a shit storm in the Middle East.
Yes, it would be terrible to disturb the calm.
As the president of the largest democratic nation on Earth it matters for all people on Earth, even if they cannot vote for or against that president.
The US is not a democracy.
Both candidates are untrustworthy liars in the pockets of the rich. Hillary's inauguration would also be a cause for despair.
Washington sent away the preacher on his death bed. Jefferson edited out what he felt was superstition from his bible. Adams wrote sophisticated sermons refuting much of the senseless dogma accepted at the time. Many founders were Deists. Practically none were fundamentalists. Fundamentalists are mentally lazy. The founders were revolutionary busybodies.
It's not the conservatives that were out on the street smashing windows and breaking things. It wasn't them threatening to shut down the Metro system. It wasn't them throwing the punches at the Deploraball last night.
What on earth are you basing that on? Unless by "many Americans" you mean those making 7 figure incomes. If so, then yes, those Americans are likely to see benefits. The unemployed steel workers in Pennsylvania probably shouldn't hold their breath...
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I'm not defending the Palestinians, I'm saying that the illegal settlements give Hamas all the ammunition it needs to continue it's atrocities.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
Maybe you'd like to register for a course at Trump University for a really great price?
The United States is three times the size of India.
If you're talking about population. India is by far the world's largest democracy. If you're talking about land size. Canada is the world's largest democracy. (unless you consider Russia democratic- then it is). If you're talking about weight of the average person then... yes... in that scenario, the US is the largest democracy.
Actually, your last point is technically wrong. Mexico is. So now we don't even have that one :/
Make America Great(er in mass) again!
"Set a man a fire, he'll be warm for the rest of the night. Set a man afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
The US lately is the sheep telling to two wolves that they have to become vegan.
Peter predicted that you would "deliberately forget" creation 2000 years ago...
We voted against people like you.
I hear this argument every election. "I don't mind political opponents, but this time it's just too far."
Yet it always turns out that the speaker is simply trying to rationalize his/her dislike of political opponents, and does not want to admit it to himself/herself.
But, if you are to dislike some group, Trump supporters are an easy choice. I don't care so much about all the stuff you said (alot of it was overblown by media), but rather that it took about 14 seconds to realize that Trump was full of shit and about as trustworthy as Putin or Baghdad Bob. Anyone that believes that guy after having listened to him for more than 1 minute has more than earned the ridicule.
So, what you're really saying is that FDR was a NAZI?
"In the future, everyone will be a Nazi for 15 minutes."
- Albert Einstein (or was it Abraham Lincon? I get their quotes mixed up)
By GDP is a reasonable standard.. although in terms of labeling values, I would say he is the President of the Country with the Worlds Largest Economy.. vs. Democracy. But GDP is a fine standard.
http://www.hawknest.com/
Let the money printing begin.
I'm guessing since Republicans kept winning more seats, that the public WANTED them to oppose things Obama was doing.
Yes. ONLY Israel supports a two-state solution. The Palestinian authorities support the destruction of Israel and extermination of Jews. The Arab world as well. And much of Europe.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
I seem to remember shortly after Obama was inaugurated that Republican members of congress made it their goal to make him a failed president, opposed him in every action, voted against anything he supported and basically did everything in their power to oppose anything and everything he tried to do. It's interesting that those same republicans and their supporters now get their panties in a wad when the shoe is on the other foot.
It's all fine and dandy to want cooperation and working together but that requires that both sides do it. The republican's made it clear that this divided government thing is the way things will run in the future. It's up to them to fix that by going across the aisle and working with democrats not steam rolling them.
Hamas needs no such excuses.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
Swearing is the new America.
Where's AmiMoJo? There's nobody on Slashdot who's more opposed to Trump than AmiMojo, but he hasn't made a single post for this story.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OMG! That was a joke right? Wait... you were SERIOUS?!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! THATS EVEN MORE HILARIOUS!!!!
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"If you're talking about weight of the average person then... yes... in that scenario, the US is the largest democracy."
Wrong. Among large countries only, Mexico surpassed us a few years back. Unless you don't consider Mexico a democracy.
Counting all countries, 3 different international studies ranked the US as 19th, 19th, and 22nd in obesity rates. A long way from "1". Some of these countries are democracies.
But, hey, making up phony "facts" and bashing America is a popular hobby on the Internet.
And a post isn't "funny" if it's inaccurate, scorers.
Yea, I'll be sure to do that :P
Also there is no such thing as an afterlife or an "immoral soul."
Excuse me for stating what should be completely obvious.
There is a reason America has opposed anything but a two-state solution. If Israel truly embarks on this path and is supported by America they will create a true apartheid state. People without citizenship in the nation they live in, separate and unequal systems of government and police action.
If Trump allows Israel to annex the west bank without making every Palestinian Israeli citizens he'll be responsible for the creation of a new apartheid state. The world would react very badly to this turn of events and it would likely spiral into war.
Are you talking about Hillary or the President, I didn't see anything that one did that the other didn't?
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Just because it won doesn't make that statement invalid.
People hate hearing the truth when it makes them uncomfortable.
America just said. "Hold my beer and watch this!"
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Tea party never rioted.
No, but the fact that someone bent on racial purity and purging a race of people has one quarter of his heritage in the very race he tried to eliminate is curious. I wonder if Rowlings intentionally paralleled that when she made Voldemort have a muggle father.
Pretty sure it *was* a joke...
Romney held no office, and did not mount any noticeable obstruction attempts or any sort.
Did you just include his name randomly?
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
If any writers for Timeless are here, I will personally send you $100 if you end an episode with a star saying "Donald Trump is President?!?"
Dear Slashdot: next time you want to mess with the site, add a rich-text editor for comments.
Nobody does. Israel wants to de facto annex land by building settlements, and thinks that by doing so they'll get a better deal in the future than they do today. The Palestinians look at the demographic curves and think that waiting a generation they'll get a better deal than what's on offer now. America can't force people to make peace when nobody thinks today's the right time.
I think the next few years are gonna be pretty danged interesting.
Ferret
Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc
bollox - he was a devout catholic
"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray." - Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899)
Really? Please tell us how not filling the unknown with fairy tails is ridiculous
Spelling must be an unknown to you, because it's fairy tale.
How would you like it if you went to watch some important event and they spent a huge chunk of the event talking (or in this case even singing!) about how wrong you and your ways are.
If you take offense this easily, I cannot possibly imagine how you survive in any modern society.
That's why he won. You keep calling people stupid and deplorable if they happen to live in the middle of the country. What a hateful person you are.
First you complained that we were ignoring you. Then you complain when we pay attention and tell you what we see.
Personally, I think the former was a better deal for all concerned.
It's not a judgement against you or them, but more of a classification of someone who is judgemental.
Nazis are nazis. You describe racial something. Drama much? Why is everyone a little complaining girl now?
Someone take your dolly away? So you declare the end of the world....
Bitches. Time to grow up. Look forward , not at your weak self.
If you're talking about weight of the average person then... yes... in that scenario, the US is the largest democracy.
What if we take Philadelphia out of that equation, do we do better?
I think less of people like you because you watched an adult mock a disabled person in front of a crowd and still supported him. I think less of you because you saw a man spouting clear racism and backed him.
Both of those are false, "fake news". Trump mocked the disabled man the same way he mocked able-bodied men and women.
Trump has not expressed any racist statements; he expressed negative views of some illegal immigrants.
"The agriculture ministry is not in charge of Gundam" - Japanese ministry official.
You have got to be joking, that was one of the more calculated tweets. He knew the press would react immediately to any criticism of anyone black. Except that Trump's criticism was accurate, so it actually weakened John Lewis (who was coasting on a history of civil rights support fifty some years ago until that point with no accountability for current inaction) and also made the press look stupid for fervently protesting against a valid point. Even black women in Atlanta (Lewis's district) agreed with Trump.
And you call that uncalculated... that tweet was carefully chosen in target to increase black support for Trump.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
If they were not so corrupt and fuck over thier own people it would be much different. The powerful greedy few destroy the whole. They need to be shot. We need so many more assasinations.
Every VP back to Quayle has been an assassination preventor.
You meant to say:
Every Republican VP back to Quayle has been an assassination preventor.
Slashdot says "Lameness filter encountered. Post aborted!" - I don't know why but I'll split up the reply.
Yea right. And Timothy McVeigh wasn't a right wing Militia member that blew up a building and killed an entire daycare's worth of kids.
No-one has said they don't exist.
What he said was:
Because conservatives aren't as hateful and violent as liberals?
Which is correct.
This is the situation in the US:
source.
"Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to FBI Database"
Latino: 42%
Extreme left wing: 24%
Jewish: 7%
Islamic: 6%
Communist: 5%
Others: 16%
There is non specifically for right-wing, I don't know what others include, maybe they consider right-wing the norm/need no title and all 16% is right-wing? Even if that was the case the extreme left with 24% is more.
Here in Sweden our security police used to regard the left-wing as the biggest threat and the ratio between them and the right was 9:1 or higher. Last time I saw it they mentioned Islamic threat instead. I assume the left may be a bigger threat to the democracy but Islamic a bigger threat when it comes to deadly violence.
I notice that most of the "militant atheist" crowd is usually mostly angry at the church they were brought up in. Whether it is ranting against the Lutherans, Methodists, Catholics, etc, they will then make the claim that they care if Muslims are discriminated against. Even though Muslims are just as "pretty drooling stupid" and "blathering idiots", the atheists don't attack them the way they do people from the church they are familiar with.
India is not a democracy. The establishment openly sponsors the caste system.
That right there is utter nonsense. India has way more affirmative action (about 50%) than the US.
You really believe a bunch of billionaires are going to pass economic and social policies that benefit anyone besides themselves? Nobody should be that naive.
Lameness filter encounter:
Oh, I easily found the problem. I had written "House N______" and that word was the problem. I don't see how a word can be a problem. What you express with it maybe.
Here in Sweden and I assume in many others places too the common picture is that national-socialists are the ones who risk destroying democracy through democracy / by being elected and who can cause fascism and dictatorships because that's the message they have been brought up with all along but back in reality it's those same people who are the real fascists, anti-democrats, racists and sexists who want to limit freedom of speech, don't respect democracy and elections, don't want people to have their vote, think that "he's a middle-class white male!" is a reason to ignore someones opinion / not let them speak / ignore whatever interest that person had. There people call immigrants who are pro actual freedom rather than their socialist dreams house n*, traitors of "their people" and like a few days ago our prime-minister commented about how one woman with immigrant background had expressed her opinion in some foreign magazine about Swedish immigration(?) politics and how that was damaging and it also happen that those same people claim that those who are against their political view are "traitors of the nation"... Sure they aren't fascists and anti-democratic and pro freedom .... Such great "liberal"s and "democrat"s.
by demonizing the other side. This dehumanizes them and allows you to make ridiculous statements like the above post
That's the default method to operate of the left.
The people in charge like it when you do this because it divides people and allows the people in charge to pit the people against each other to their own benefit.
The left all the time talk about how the other side turn people and groups against each other but of course they are the most active ones of doing so against anyone who don't share their socialist view of equal outcome.
Read Bernays. And understand Operation Mockingbird was just whistleblowed on. Learn about the deceptions and total lack of credibility the MSM has. Wake up, PLEASE!!!
Nothing of what your said is true you were massaged into these beliefs.
Only if they pay for the upgrades that were performed.
First, fuck your own face for calling me an idiot, when you don't know anything about me.
Second, right now it is the left that is being divisive. That's not to say that the right hasn't had a whole shitload of time of their own to be at fault for this too - but to fix it, people need to fucking stop already. Both parties, and all of their respective sycophants.
That includes you. You are part of the problem, right now, with that fucking incendiary partisan post.
Slashdot still doesnâ(TM)t support Unicode after it was added to the HTML standard in 1997.
Except for the perpetually angry leftist blacks, the average reasonable black citizen agreed with Trump.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
As I understand it, Charles Manson believed himself to be part black and that somehow figured into his plans to initiate a race war.
LK
"Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
When Hillary gets a quarter million dollars from one Wall Street bank, another quarter million from another bank, and half a million from Time Warner, she depends on those donations. When Trump (worth $4.5 BILLION) gets $500, that's like you and I finding a nickel. He doesn't give a shit about $500.
(I live in Sweden.)
Haha. Your whole retarded writings purpose revealed. You are a freak tranny and no one wants you around. Now kill your self.
And then the middle of the country got mad and decided to chop its nose off to spite it's face.
Nobody won.
I am not mad at people like you because Clinton lost. I am unconcerned that we have different politics. And I don’t think less of people like you because you vote one way and I vote another. I think less of people like you because you watched an adult mock a disabled person in front of a crowd and still supported him. I think less of you because you saw a man spouting clear racism and backed him. I think less of you because you listened to him advocate for war crimes, and still thought he should run this country. I think less of people like you because you watched him equate a woman’s worth to her appearance and got on board. It isn’t your politics that I find repulsive. It is your personal willingness to support racism, sexism, and cruelty. You sided with a bully when it mattered and that is something I will never forget. So, no people like you and I won’t be “coming together” to move forward or whatever. Trump disgusts me, but it is the fact that he doesn’t disgust people like you that will stick with me long after this election.
I'm surprised that you still get don't get this, but the election proved one thing that myself and others have suspected or claimed for years and people like you don't want to admit. The only "issue" that matters for the vast majority of Americans, and I'd put it at about 80% of the electorate, is whether there is a D or an R next to their name. Some of my old friends who are women could not possibly have cared less about anything bad that Trump did on the campaign trail but completely flipped out over both and real and imaginary things related to Hillary. Trump bragged about grabbing women in the crotch? No problem. But Hillary was tied, barely, to Benghazi where a grand total of 4 Americans died and this was the single biggest American foreign policy disaster ever. People really don't care much about anything except whether a candidate has a D or an R next to their name. Pretty much everything else is negotiable. Congressional races prove this every election. Most Congressional districts regardless of who holds them are no longer competitive for members of the other party. Most of the people who aren't party tied voted for Trump in this election because he told people what they wanted to hear - namely that they were victims of powers and forces beyond their control and only he could stand up to those powers. Given the monopoly the Democrats have had on victimhood it's kind of funny that Trump outflanked them on this.
So what you're saying is that ?
sez the AC
Then the sheep eat the wolves.
Do you not realize SJWs have become the loudest voices for segregation in the last year or so? Maybe you should stop appropriating Nazi culture.
If he gets the right price. Art of the deal baby !!
5 out of 6 people enjoy Russian Roulette & 6 out of 7 Dwarfs are not Happy
I thought snowflakes would never ask for proof as long as reporting is by CNN
Godwin FTW.
so how would you describe the jerking, arm-clutched-to-the-chest motion he was making when he mocked the guy? what was the significance of it?
it sure reminded me of how kids in elementary school would mock 'retards'
perhaps there is some other meaning behind the motion that I am not aware of?
If you voted for Trump you are deplorable, because he espouses deplorable ideology. It just so happens that the majority of you live in the middle states. It has nothing to do with geography, it has to do with your actions.
Yet these petty and petulant asshats can't see that the inauguration is a celebration of the institution, and not of the man being sworn in.
Give me a fucking break. The Republican party has cornered the market on being petty and petulant.
The divisiveness only continues to get worse as long as these douchebags can't see that they are the ones perpetuating the problem.
Bzzt. Wrong. They aren't the problem.
I think less of people like you because you watched an adult mock a disabled person in front of a crowd and still supported him.
I don't believe you.
I think less of you because you saw a man spouting clear racism and backed him.
1. [citation needed]
2. Islam isn't a race.
3. Illegal immigrants do not have a right to be in this country... by definition.
I think less of you because you listened to him advocate for war crimes, and still thought he should run this country.
If you mean that he would waterboard ISIS then I'm having a hard time feeling sorry for ISIS.
I think less of people like you because you watched him equate a woman’s worth to her appearance and got on board.
If your wife or girlfriend isn't fat and ugly then you may be a hypocrite.
If you think Hillary is better on this point-- considering that she enabled her husband's infamous behavior-- then you're a hypocrite.
It is your personal willingness to support racism, sexism, and cruelty.
1. [citation needed]
2. argumentum ad nauseam
You sided with a bully when it mattered and that is something I will never forget.
1. He's not.
2. Just because someone directly challenges you or your opinions or ideas doesn't make them a bully. The internet isn't a safe space.
So, no people like you and I won’t be “coming together” to move forward or whatever. Trump disgusts me, but it is the fact that he doesn’t disgust people like you that will stick with me long after this election.
Virtue signal received; we're reading you loud and clear.
After the 2008 and 2012 GOP disasters (with GOP-assimilated McCain and Romney the Robot), I was hoping it would make the Republicans pull their heads out of their asses. Apparently not. Not only did they decide to double down on political stupidity, the Democrats decided to join them even more.
Political power is in Congress. The only time the President actually has power is during war time. I don't see Democrats generally craving to start wars, which is one way to consolidate power at the top. I don't see Republicans generally trying to get more people to vote which is one way to distribute power at the bottom.
Also, the people in Government are the only people theoretically working for the people of the United States. Everyone else is working for a business, which is working for owners / share holders. Making government more or less effective isn't necessarily a win. Pointing government in the right direction is. In fact, the success of the US comes from the constitution which points government in the right direction. Getting the process to work correctly is a huge win (citizen's united breaks the process because it dilutes votes).
When I look at the anti-citizen, anti-freedom and pro-profit candidates that Republicans usually put in charge (and now more blatantly put in charge by Trump), I just don't see how you equate the two. I didn't see Obama overreaching anywhere. He didn't start any new wars and didn't put US forces into harms way. He didn't destroy any social safety nets and didn't put people in harms way. He didn't cut taxes and didn't keep increasing budget deficits and corporate profit. He acted when Congress, now filled with individuals who are supposed to work for people of the US but in reality work for the wealthy, didn't act.
What has he done that was so wrong?
In the rust belt. Full stop. Young people, blacks and Latinos stayed home. If you doubt me 538 had a meticulously sourced article on the subject. Hilary was arrogant. She assumed no sane country would elect Trump. She was wrong, and we're all gonna pay for it. For God's sake people, vote in your mid terms.
Nate Silver is a smart guy, but he relies too much on the models and not the context or the assumptions.
The actual context is that Hillary lost the popular vote by a small margin, which means that *any* of about two dozen reasons could have flipped the election the other way.
It's like viewing a stack of books one inch higher than another stack, and saying that the reason is a specific book halfway up isn't big enough.
The reality is that Clinton could have done better in any one of : her political dealings during the election (getting debate answers, screwing Bernie supporters, superdelegates, and so on), her financing and backing (Moroccan meeting, Saudi donations, Soros), her image (not attending rallies and letting others do her campaigning for her, coming across as cold and unfeeling, "I feel your pain"), or her past actions (the server, her actions during Benghazi, Russian unfreeze, Clinton Foundation shenanigans).
It's hard to imagine Trump doing better in any of his several categories (meaning: there's nothing he could have done to mitigate).
Pretty-much any one of these would have upped her popular vote by the 1% she needed to beat Trump and win several more electoral colleges. The reliable polls pointed out that she had some 1024 ways to win, while Trump had only four.
538 isn't the oracle of prediction that everyone thinks it is. Nate's basic premise is that "past performance predicts future actions", which has been completely disproven this year.
So for example, Nate predicted that Trump's presidency would go down in flames early last year, predicted 80% chance Trump would lose the general election, and noted that Congressional endorsements are the best predictor of the primary candidate; meaning, Ted Cruse would win the primary.
538 is racking up a long list of failed predictions.
Not in the UK, Germany, most of north EU, Australia. While the corrupt mainstream press are still spouting the anti trump rhetoric they are paid to espouse, speak to people you meet and 80% are pro trump. The only exceptions in the Uk are central London which is about 50/50 and the university towns where the kids haven't yet learned what the real world is yet.
Oh, it works, if my discussions with friends who voted for Hillary are any measure. Every last one of them conceded Hillary's weaknesses, but insisted she was a better pick than misogynistic, homophobic, racist Trump. And I can't really blame them for that opinion based on how much the media drilled that impression in. But while I agree that there are people who voted for the Great Pumpkin specifically because of the exaggerated and hysterical rhetoric used by the media, I think Hillary's defeat primarily came from her campaign's smugness about victory. The final weeks before the election, the message was consistently "Hillary's got this one, and Trump doesn't stand a chance." What hubris! What stupidity! That basically told all her supporters that it wasn't critical they get out and vote, while telling Trump's just how desperate the situation was. But then, Hillary's campaign was a series of mismanaged debacles.
Errrrr, Trump was spouting the "I'm going to win, just wait and see!" line much more than she was. I mean, you don't remember his constant Twitter posts raving about how wrong the polls are and how he was destined for victory? I don't mean to come off as aggressive, but I have to say I strongly disagree, that was... trumpeted... out by both parties. And if I may, many of those articles about her were written by newspapers with the evidence we had, whereas he personally engaged on his tirade with no evidence. I mean, I'm just saying...
"Set a man a fire, he'll be warm for the rest of the night. Set a man afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
or have they all stroked out or had coronaries since 12:00 EDT 2017-01-20 ?? Bahahahaha... liberals are the best at whining and yelling at people, cameras and comment sections.
You sound triggered.
Are you saying Trump was born in Russia?
Obama had 85% approval. Trump doesn't have half of that.
The US lately is the sheep telling to two wolves that they have to become vegan.
Eh, I dunno. The story I hear is the sheep telling the two wolves that their diet isn't long term sustainable with only one sheep left, and the two wolves ignore it. We're moving into the what comes next phase...
"Set a man a fire, he'll be warm for the rest of the night. Set a man afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
What more can I say
What he meant to say was: "Fuck... I left the stove on when I left the house!"
What race did he spout off about? Was it black people, white people or asians?
Learn the meaning of words, and you don't look so foolish. Also, you should actually watch the videos where he actually fails to say anything about any race, religion or ethnicity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Oh, and the main problem that many of us had (and I didn't vote for Trump or Hillary), is that Hillary did many things just as bad as Trump, yet you support her instead. Hillary is racist, she denigrated black people in her previous campaign. Hillary was trying to start wars with Russia over Syria, and likely was part of supplying arms to the insurgents in Syria. As far as mocking a disabled person, how do you feel about Hillary's anti homosexual platform, or her husband's don't ask don't tell? How do you feel about Hillary harassing and silencing the victims of her husband's sexual harassment and rape?
You can look down on people for disagreeing with you, but you are the only one trying to claim that one is worse than the other. All four of the top candidates were awful, this election sucked, as the good choices were filtered out in the primaries.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
Hillary's inauguration would also be a cause for despair.
What on earth are you basing that on? I have seen a lot of innuendo on her, but never anything more substantial than possibly a poor choice of email server.
... it has come to this.
You really believe a bunch of billionaires are going to pass economic and social policies that benefit anyone besides themselves? Nobody should be that naive.
Billionaires can pay lobbyists to promote their policies.
So, two wrongs make a right and we should prove ourselves to be just as immature as the other political party? Prove that the DNC is better than that, and you will have more possibility of winning the next election, probe that you are just as bad, and lose yet again.
If it was wrong for the RNC to not work with Obama, how can it be right to not work with Trump?
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
So rather than rely on several polls of thousands of people you suggest we talk to some people we run into during our day. You say that provides you with a better estimation of the beliefs of the world at large.
And you don't think you live in a bubble?
"In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women..." -H. Simpson
was he a militia member? i don't remember hearing about that, or the subsequent war against said militia. TM was attacking the Federal government for its role in the Ruby Ridge and Waco massacres.
Why do you think that the people who made those posts then aren't the same rabid trump supporters we see now?
"In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women..." -H. Simpson
haha, what a pity show. The gringo's should look to the Russians and the North Koreans on how to do a proper 'Inspection of the Troops'
It's almost like there's more than one person on Slashdot and they have different opinions!
. Trump has not expressed any racist statements; he expressed negative views of some illegal immigrants.
Of the top of my head, I remember Trump saying "Where is my African American?". Maybe that doesn't sound racist to you, but it sure does to a lot of people. Also, you seem to forget how he stated that the judge couldn't be fair in the Trump University case, because he was a Mexican. I'm sure there are more examples. His rhetoric was very racist at times. There is a reason white nationalists love him.
I'm pretty sure there are plenty of immoral souls
On the war crimes comment, I'm sure the person was referring to the time Trump said that killing the terrorists themselves wasn't enough. He would instruct the military to kill the families of terrorists too.
And both Canada and Russia are larger than the United States geographically. I guess that would make one of them the largest democratic nation in the world if we were to go by geographic size. But we don't, not when we talk about "largest democracy." People vote, rocks don't.
Hey, Canada has rocks AND trees.
Fanatically anti-fanatical
I've put a bell on my cat so I don't have to ring a bell myself.
Pretty sure Trump feels like a winner today
It's "A Game of Podiums"
Trump has the job, polls are irrelevant.
I am sure you doubted he could win the electoral college and be president. Most folks did. Where as I, touted repeatedly that if the Democrat party cheated Bernie out of the nomination, the result would be a Trump presidency.
So I don't put much stock in your doubts.
Why stop there? Just give all of North America back to the Native Americans.
so how would you describe the jerking, arm-clutched-to-the-chest motion he was making when he mocked the guy?
It's the same exact shit he does when he mocks any other person.
"The agriculture ministry is not in charge of Gundam" - Japanese ministry official.
You're arguing two things.
1. Is the system rigged, and setup to enable the party orgs. Absolutely. Should it be changed. Absolutely.
2. But that's not what all of you are saying, you're saying that despite him overcoming the challenges of being an outsider to win the Republican nomination. Despite him winning the electoral college when facing a conglomerate of media that were not only actively campaigning for Hillary, but were passing debate questions and strategizing with her election team....that despite him winning inside that corrupt and unjust system. The mere fact, the system is broken and rigged is being used to de-legitimize him.
Yes, the system is rigged, broken, and corrupt. Winning in spite of all that is damn impressive. But if you're going to say the fact that said system is broken makes Trump's election illegitimate. Than it would have also made Hillary's win illegitimate, and all of our recent presidents were illegitimate. In which case, your barking about only one election winner is rather hypocritical. Thus, your argument for Trump's illegitimacy and removal is null.
Well, it cost a lot lot lot less than what the Democrats spent pushing Hillary.
And while that may not be a majority of Americans. Trust me, right now the Republicans view it as a mandate. I mean, they've got the Presidency, Senate, House, soon to have SCOTUS, and the majority of governorships.
Worse, the Democrats, never envisioning they could decline, had enacted several policy changes to their immediate benefit, such as anti-filibuster procedures. Having now lost their momentum, these changes now place them in a far tougher position.
No, he won because God appoints presidents, and half of the USA prayed for Trump. Trump thinks he's a winner but he's just a tool. What the purpose is and outcome will be remains to be seen. Maybe God is testing the people who prayed, not the president.
Walks into union shops and factories and exclaims...
"If they move your jobs out of America. I'll make it costly for them to bring those products back into America's borders."
Oops...a big chunk just switched. This is EXACTLY what Trump did in Michigan and Pennsylvania.
Being Mexican is not a race. Try to be more sensitive about the difference between ethnicity, nationality, and race. I hope you don't think that everyone who is Mexican identifies as the same race.
No, I think Palestine should have taken the Two State solution offered by Israel a few years ago, but refused and went on a rampage over it.
The problem is, you think that Palestine wants a two state solution, and they don't. It has been offered, repeatedly, and they keep refusing.
And I wonder why you don't mention the Palestinians "Illegally" launching rockets into Israel. Or the time that Israel pulled its settlements out of Gaza, only to have them turned into rocket launching sites. I'm talking functioning industry and farms being walked away from and turning back into desert because ... Palestinians don't want anything the Jews had built.
Palestinians are functionally incapably of peace at this time.
How do you expect the Palestinians to be capable of peace while Israel is actively stealing land from ordinary Palestinians and giving it to Jewish Settlers?
Committing indefensible outrages against a population is an excellent way to turn that population to violence.
Israel is pursuing exactly the policy you'd expect they the leaders really wanted to kill the two-state solution with a bit of deniability.
I stole this Sig
I'm not going to defend her. She is a creature of big finance and big business. She is a power broker and doesn't hesitate to lie if she thinks it will be to her advantage.
On the other hand, she is extremely intelligent, hard-working, and has vast experience on both the national and international stages.
Dear God, just on the basis of not starting a global thermonuclear war, I don't see how anyone could prefer Donald Trump as the leader of the mightiest country the planet has ever seen.
Trump is an Entrepreneur-President.
Entrepreneurs are a rare breed, successful ones even more so. Most people are not like them, do not get them, do not follow their thinking process and do not respect their ideas EXCEPT in hindsight.
Generally, only other entrepreneurs are able to understand the ways of these weird crazy misfits.
Peter Thiel is one such guy and I think, will be proved right by 2020.
I'm happy to see I'm not the only one who feels this way.
The stupidest calf chooses his own butcher...
I was amazed that the "Deeply Held Religious Beliefs" Crowd voted as a block for this being. :)
Guess those must not have been Too deep...
Grab the popcorn, this is going to be an interesting few years. :)
Truth isn't Truth - Guliani
While I am concerned about conservative, anti-gay justices being nominated to the Supreme Court, under Trump (especially while the GOP controls all of congress), I don't think the Supreme Court will repeal gay marriage. One particular Executive Order from President Obama, states that the federal government and its contractors cannot fire and employee because of his or her sexual orientation. This affects me, because the company I work for, is a government contractor and follows this order. If the Trump administration repeals this order (along with many others they have threatened to repeal), I could be fired for being openly gay.
Right after the election, the governor of my state talked to Mike Pence, who basically stated that our state shouldn't expect any more federal help with Medicaid. The company I work for, partially relies on Medicaid payments. While I'm not likely to get fired because of this, I likely will not receive much (if any) in the way of pay raises.
So, does a Trump administration directly affect me? Absolutely. Don't even get me started about my non-white partner.
It is going to be a rough 4 years (if he lasts that long).
Why is it spelled 'polis' instead of 'police'?
A line of motorcycles each with a letter that spelled out INDIANAPOLIS -- couldn't find anything directly relevant via google
You don't become a trump fan because you hate killary or vise versa.
"t's probably worth noting that many people born, raised, and died in America also lack these papers or documents proving their citizenship except for maybe a birth certificate."
Except that a birth certificate does prove citizenship: if geographic location is USA, then automatic citizen. If either parent listed is citizen (takes research), then child is citizen.
North America is now entirely ruled unqualified morons. We have Justin, who has proven to be a completely idiot, in Canada, the son of one of the worst Prime-minsters in history and now the US has Trump.
You know, the party of inclusion that can't wait to have 60+ sitting congresspersons "boycott" the inauguration of the president that they now have to work with
67 out of the 535 members of Congress have a conscience? Sounds about right.
She's thoroughly in the pockets of the mega wealthy and would have carried on crapping on ordinary people. http://bigstory.ap.org/article...
This post belongs in the Slashdot Hall of Fame. Well done, sir.
It's not quite the same thing. Republicans used the political process as it was intended, rather than run out in the streets protesting and rioting, and punching democrats in the head. I'd say what the Republicans did is what the country wanted... or they wouldn't have been gaining seats in congress the last 6 years. If Obama and the Democrats are what Americans wanted, why don't Democrats hold the majority in congress and Clinton get sworn in today?
Even worse, they are trying to pretend like Trump is not even president which is something Republicans never did to Obama. Republicans in congress largely treated him with respect as due the presidency. Wishing to block policies and laws they don't agree with is what they were elected to do, not to be petulant children and pretend the person who got elected, didn't get elected.
I guess orange really is the new black.
Barry had 85% support going in? Haha. Among who? The ~50% of Americas who support Trump, I.e. The racist "deplorables" crowd? What alternate reality do you come from where that number makes any sense whatsoever?
You tell them. We anonymous cowards are not afraid anymore.
Such eloquence...
You've offered such great evidence in your post. Do tell, who sat out and pretended Obama never got elected when he took office? How, gameshow host with your buzzer, are they not the problem? The Democrats are quickly becoming the Eric Cartmans of politics. Saying "I know you are, but what am I?" is not going to work. I have seen at least 6 self declared liberals rant and rave over Facebook about the loss of Clinton and threaten their "friends" for voting Trump. I never saw a single conservative do the same to the liberals. I simply don't understand the level of bigotry they display, while calling others bigots. That to me has become the defining trait of Democrats, and it didn't use to be that way
And transgendered people have to become normal again.
Unfortunately, rebuttals to your post betray the thoroughness of Trump supporters' thinking.
Well seeing as he just defunded international planned parenthood, aka international baby killers, he's aces with me.
Both of those are false, "fake news". Trump mocked the disabled man the same way he mocked able-bodied men and women.
Even if that were true (and not just a repetition of DT's gaslighting), you somehow think that makes him a worthwhile human?
Trump has not expressed any racist statements; he expressed negative views of some illegal immigrants.
Again, you seem to have taken his gaslighting as religious gospel.
Correct. But those settlements give Hamas a veneer of righteousness on a global scale. They can point at Israel, and say 'see, Israel is continuing to gobble up our territory. so we fight'. And while those settlements would probably not make a difference either way, the fact is that Israel is occupying their territory and providing Hamas with a reasonable justification that is not deniable.
Back in November there was a poll of over 100, million people you seem exceptionally willing to discount it.
Then there was that poll about whether or not the UK should remain in the EU
Then there was that poll in Italy.
It seems the polls that actually matter don't go your way.
It's the crowd of Hillary and Barak who believe in a diversity of voices as long as those voices stay within strict racial stereotypes and norms. Otherwise you get called things like Uncle Tom.
then you haven't been paying attention.
Honestly, i can understand thinking that Clinton is not as bad as Trump (i and many others disagree) or the other way around... but to completely disregard the disaster that she is?? Come on, at least be honest.
The way he writes he sounds more nyggered.
> As a European (from Finland, and a Hitchensian socialist and anti-theist) ...
>
> I'm looking out for the interests of my family and me...
That guy is a paid russian shill. A true finnish person never looks for his family in the first place, but the country and its people. They are a patriotic bunch and that's how they survived a millenia of brutal oppression and continous attempts of forced assimilation, first by the vikings and then military occupation under the russian tsardom. (The finnish nation belongs to the uralic-ugric ehtnic group, which is genetically and linguistically different from the nordic and slavic races of indo-european origin, so they were considered inferior by the occupiers.)
> glad Hillary isn't president
Trump is turning America away from its international relations. That means Putin can now freely annex the Baltic States and Finland, including its capital city Helsinki! The present dictator of Kremlin only wants back what previously belonged to the holy tsars, isn't that righteous in the eye of a paid russian shill?
Remember that in 1940 the communist satan Stalin sent one million russian soldiers to invade and occupy Finland. The finns fought bravely in an insanely cold winter war (mercury regularly froze in the thermometer) and lost 25000 of their own people, but on the other hand 200000 red soldiers perished and Stalin had to accept a peace accord with very minimal territorial gains. Even in the "continuation war" part of WW2, the soviet empire of evil proved unable to crush finnish military defences and the USSR eventually had to accept "finlandization", which allowed the small nordic country to remain independent, neutral and practice mildly regulated capitalism (which brought us Nokia for example). That fiasco has been bothering the imperialist-minded russian race ever since.
> I'm looking out for the interests of my family
Surely a lie. The poster would see her wife and daughter(s) gang-raped by russian army platoons if the City of Helsinki fell. That's why WW2 lasted so long in Eastern Europe: as the syphillitic hordes of russian military marched into the baltic area in the beginning of 1944, they began dishonesting the predominantly blonde ladyfolk at gunpoint. That made a million of previously passive local manfolk take up arms and join the Waffen-SS. Suddenly the Reich had many new platoons of werewolf-level motived warriors. The combat situation got so bad that Stalin had to send the infamous pro-rape soviet propagandist and poet Ilya Ehrenburg into exile and print air-drop leafets to that effect, unsuccessfully trying to convince baltic and prussian people to cease resistance.
No, the above paragraph is not a joke. Here is a wallpaper the Reich distributed within its teritory and which proved very effective, because it depicted the NSFW naked truth accurately, converning the antics of russian soldiers:
https://robertlindsay.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/art057.gif
A true finnlander would never want that shame to happen to his mother, wife and daughter(s). Only a russian shill hopes for USA abandoning european alliances, letting Putin occupy every acre from Helsinki all the way to Dover's white cliffs.
How is atheism a religion? Be specific here. What creed is there? What rituals?
I'm an atheist, and I am an atheist because I simply lack belief in God, or by extension in gods. A lack of belief in something is now somehow a belief?
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
I never used to think that way.
Although right leaning in some ways, I used to have contempt for extreme right wingers like Savage, and Coulter, and Limbaugh. I used to think liberals were nice people, even if I did not agree with them all the time.
But this election has proved beyond any doubt, liberals are violent, hypocrites and completely insane.
Welcome to the age of Fake News Nation, where #PresidentTweety McTrumpy is president-for-life for all the winners in the clash of civilizations.
You know? The one where civilization lost.
A couple of predictions:
(1) He will provoke China, hoping for them to invade North Korea. Won't he be surprised when they take South Korea and Taiwan, too? Make China GREAT again!
(2) If he isn't Bill-Cosby-ed out of office RSN, then he'll dump Pence for VP Ivanka! All in the Family, you know. Putin has already endorsed this one, though he's planning to marry Trump's other daughter.
(3) Iran will continue growing into the power vacuum in the Middle East. Look for YUGE deals with Russia and China!
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
Well Hillary does maintain a public and private position, so there's that.
That would be why LePen and the AFD are doing so well ?
you didn't answer the question at all.
it may be the same way he mocks able-bodied folks, but WHY does he do it in that particular manner? If not to mock the particular physical disability that some folks have? (including the reporter in question)
it seems pretty clear that the jerking, arm-clutched-to-the-chest motion is the same thing that elementary school kids do to make fun of disabled people. surely you aren't claiming it to be purely coincidental that he chose that very specific physical action.
if your argument is that he mocks able-bodied and disabled folks in the same way, by pretending they all have a physical disability of the arm and hand that causes muscle spasms, then you aren't really helping the case.
I see somebody repeating memes, with no real evidence to back them up.
Hillary's campaign was largely funded by China, Saudis, and George Soros. Hillary, and Bill, have been influence peddles for the last 40+ years. If you are so worried about outside influences, that is something to consider.
The campaign has been bewildering. The dems constantly accuse Trump of the dems are doing.
The dems booed and hissed about Trump possibly not accepting election results. Hillary made some speech about accepting elections was the cornerstone of our democracy, and everybody cheered.
What happened when Trump won? Dems are rioting to this day. They sent death threats to the electors. They orchestrated some bogus recounts. Celebrities made endless idiotic commercials.
Dems accused Trump supporters of being violent. In truth:
- dems beat down a homeless African American Woman who supported Trump.
- dems beat pulled a man out of car beat the crap out of him, and stole his car for supporting Trump.
- dems beat and tortured a mentally ill man for being a Trump supporter.
- dems hired violent thugs to disrupt Trump rallies.
I don't have any mod points right now to mod you SJWs down, so I'll just have to say, Hallelujah!
Every Democrat has a laminated "race card" that they play every chance they get. Now I have a "Kiss My Ass" card and I'm going to wear it over the next four (hopefully eight) years!
Mod me down if you wish, but I'm getting the last laugh. Change your diapers, dry your tears, get your thumbs out of your mouths, go to work, and shut up.
The Republic is safe again. Thank God Almighty!!!!
Old and degraded! Starting too soon to a country near you!
It's the horror comedy mystery western movie "Forward into the Past" starring #PresidentTweety as Jason the 13th pushing America down the rabbit hole to meet Puppetmaker Pinocchio Putin on the quiet eastern front! You'll laugh yourself sick, as you watch the Fabulous Four Oranges of Wrath dancing in the monsoon while they sing their worst hit "The Winter, Fall, Summer, and Autumn of our Discontent." Winner of the Oscar, Emmy, and Tony bloody red badges of avarice for supremely hackneyed cultural references in 8 dimensions!
Don't you wish you could wait for it to never begin?
My allergic Trumpitis is highly acute and inflamed this morning!
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
Committing indefensible outrages against a population is an excellent way to turn that population to violence.
So what would that make rocket attacks, firing mortars at a apartment complexes and playgrounds ?
was being burned on the National Mall today....
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>Give me a fucking break. The Republican party has cornered the market on being petty and petulant.
They have? I guess they forced President Obama to tell them to "get in the back of the bus" and they locked themselves out of committee rooms. I guess they used reconciliation to pass a bill with zero input from the GOP, just so we can "find out what was in it". And I guess they passed the nuclear option, too?
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
Citation, please.
Certainly yes, Trump, like anyone, would tend to feel more friendly toward someone who offered him some small token.
Which is different from being dependent on a bank that gave Hillary (and other career politicians) hundreds of thousands of dollars.
To be entirely honest, I think that historians will look back and see that this election marked the beginning of the decline of the American Empire
I disagree. In the not-too-distant future which resembles The Walking Dead, there won't be any historians.
In the short term, maybe. But I won't rule out that we can get a "better deal" than what we have now when the war finally plays out.
However, I do think it unlikely that we'll get a sufficiently better deal to compensate for what's lost during the battle. It's like winning a physical war only to realize half your population is dead.
If T is such a great negotiator, why are there still about 500 people richER than him, most of whom don't claim they have super-human negotiating skills.
Table-ized A.I.
Let me preface this by saying I voted against Trump, twice.
Yes, Trump's companies have mortgages on the buildings. Which is why he's not worth $25 billion or whatever, just $4.5 billion (Forbes 2016).
I'd much rather someone own a building that has mortgage payments than be owned by lobbyists. Just sayin.
Word of God: Biff Tannen in Back to the Future II was modeled on 1980's Donald Trump.
I can't wait for the White House to be decorated in gold and tigerstripe / leopard print, with vulgar paintings of what seems to be B-movie characters. Oh wait, the Obama's style wasn't too far off, all that red and gold French Provincial Whorehouse Rococo like some african dictator.
So.. is this 2017-A now? Oh well whatever.. bring it.. 2016 was an absolute disaster for me, I think from here things can only go up.. i hope...
The "Civilized World" jumped the shark ca. 1973.
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The Palestinians already had all the ammunition they needed. Fighting against Israel was pretty much a day one thing since the founding of it.
We're talking about EGO. We outweigh everyone else added together.
Did you not notice???
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
>"If you're talking about land size. Canada is the world's largest democracy. (unless you consider Russia democratic- then it is)."
Perhaps you should talk about reasonably HABITABLE land size. Probably 2/3rds or more of Canada are areas where people would not want to settle/live. Same thing with Russia.
I mean, sure, we would have to throw out Alaska, but Canada would have to throw out all the NorthWest Territories, Yukon, Nunavut, and a good portion of the tops of most of the lower provinces. Look at a graphical population density map and a huge percent (almost all) of Canada's population is all just above the border of the USA.
But then I realized it was 100% accurate.
Kudos.
English is awesome.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
Both of those are false, "fake news". Trump mocked the disabled man the same way he mocked able-bodied men and women.
So, you're saying he only "appeared" to be mocking or "accidentally" mocked the disabled reporter? Fine. He should have apologized for it, instead of denying it. He's still an asshat.
Trump cares what some people think of him.
FTFY
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
Apparently Romney and other Republicans also boycotted Obama's inauguration, apparently for the specific purpose of planning obstruction to anything he was going to do. Still trying to hunt down specifics though, but it hardly seems they are doing anything surprising.
I don't know about Romney, but let's say he boycotted. Rick Perry is the only other Republican I can verify as having boycotted (Obama's 1st inaguration). Neither he nor Romney were sitting members of Congress at the time; I'm not clear on how they could implement the obstruction you mentioned.
> if being courageous means acting like hill-dog supporters this last election cycle.
what a disaster that person was. Bernie could have won in a landslide.
And so he's still an asshat.
Good to know.
The solution, of course, is to not carry out his orders if he does order such things.
But that's a bridge that should be crossed if we ever get to it.
In the mean-time I'm unconcerned.
Don't get me wrong, I dislike Trump and would rather have had someone else, but my guy got beat in the primaries.
You do realize that the Trump, as well as all US citizens, have to follow the constitution and US laws.
You can be as politically incorrect as you want. That never changed at any point. The difference is that your narrow world view and lack of factual information about reality doesn't become reality.
Donald Trump is in his 70s. His 3AM tweets are a good indication that he's peeing like a girl... sitting down.
Who knew he is "tweeting from the Throne"???
Exactly what shit was she proposing to start?
The quote you're relying on is super weak:
As President, I will make it clear that the United States will treat cyberattacks just like any other attack. We will be ready with serious political, economic, and military responses.
"Military responses" can mean anything. The military has cyber-warfare capability, so a "military response" could simply be hacking them back. Supposedly, the email hacks were by the Russian _military_ intelligence service, in which case Clinton was proposing a military response to a military action. That's pretty reasonable. Do you seriously think she was planning a conventional military response to cyberattacks?
I don't see the evidence that she tried to *start* shit. I see an excellent case that she tried to *respond* to shit, and maybe it wouldn't be a good response (no way of knowing now), but not responding makes you a more appealing target.
I might add that the current president is also threatening to "start shit with an ICBM and submarine possessing nuclear power". After all, on an international stage, the amount of people for whom shit can get ruined, and the degree to which it can get ruined, is too horrifying to allow him a chance to do so. Don't sleep too easy.
The beginning of the American Empire while the decline of the Federal Republic.
First off, "fake news" doesn't mean what you're using it to mean here. Editorial, spin, distortion, or misinterpretation of real events to score political points is not "fake news". Deliberately making up complete fabrications out of whole cloth, knowing (on the part of the creator) that they are fake, and trying to get other people to believe it, is what "fake news" means.
Second, I'd like to see an example of Trump mocking an able-bodied person in the same way as he mocked the disabled person in question. (It seems plausible that he maybe does 'retard hands' like that as a way of mocking people in general, which still is not great on his part, but I'd like to know for the record whether that's really the case or not).
-Forrest Cameranesi, Geek of all Trades
"I am Sam. Sam I am. I do not like trolls, flames, or spam."
So anybody who ever criticizes or ridicules anything even once and a while has a bad attitude? By your logic nobody should ever say anything to point out problems. Enjoy your unchanging world where nothing ever improves because nobody is allowed to report problems.
You inflicted Trump on yourselves, yes. And you will suffer for that. But what about us? The rest of the world. You inflicted Trump on us too. You will never suffer enough to pay for that.
Well so much for their narrative that the Democrats are the "better people". What was that GP said about hypocrisy?
Oh yeah,
... the Democratic Party is too busy tripping over their hypocritical statements and actions.
I think he's saying that Trump does 'retard hands' as a way of mocking people in general, not specifically this one disabled person. Which would seem plausibly in character for him, though not especially better than doing it just in this one case. I've asked GP to provide an example to confirm if that is true.
-Forrest Cameranesi, Geek of all Trades
"I am Sam. Sam I am. I do not like trolls, flames, or spam."
Oh, no somebodies spiel cheekier don't work! I have to correct all there errors! Whhaaaa.
How do YOU survive when you are too busy nit picking over every little post detale?
Trump is just the first person on the right who found a way to fight back in a long, long time.
Justify this statement.
Haha you mean the same polls that showed us trump had no chance in beating Hillary? Cool story bro.
W00t!
Another appearance of umbrage related to #PresidentTweety?
As in TUSAD (Trump-Umbrage Stress Anxiety Disorder)?
I will be SO disappointed if he actually starts acting presidential because they finally manage to take away his Twitter account.
Then again, his handlers may have to do it when he provokes China into invading Taiwan. The so-called Republicans will have to insist on SOMETHING in exchange for not impeaching him, right?
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
Palestine refuses the "two state" solution as Israel have annexed a large amount of the only useful (i.e. fertile) land in the area. Would you sign on the dotted line after your growing land had been appropriated and you'd been grudgingly given a square meter of desert in return? Of course not.
This would be Israel, the state founded on terrorism (butchering their own allies' soldiers because things weren't moving quickly enough for the nascent uber-nationalist "Israelis" (Israel didn't exist at that time, hence the quotes))? The state that has occupied Palestinian land and continues to occupy Palestinian land? The state that oppresses Palestinians in an apartheid system that disgusts any civilised person, Jewish, Muslim or people of any/no faith?
Until Israel is behind its pre-1948 border, it should be treated as an international pariah. Whilst the Israeli government continues with its policy of annexation and apartheid - and its friends in the US continue to support it morally and militarily - the Palestinians will attempt to eject their occupiers by whatever means they have available. The hardliners on both sides, of course, won't be happy until the entire population of *both* countries is dead and cold, because that would prove them right, i.e. that there was no possibility of peace. Sharon had some idea of how to navigate a path, but Netanyahu? He's an ideologue and a warmonger who will not rest until Palestine is no more. This would be bad enough if it were for religion but it's far worse than that; it's to massage his own ego by proving him "right". The current situation provides willing ears to listen to the Wahabist nutjobs coming out of Saudi Arabia; when you're that desperate, *anything* is better than what you have.
If Israel had any intention of signing-up for a two state solution, they'd get back behind their own borders. And if the US had any intention of creating peace in that area, they'd provide military force to move all the illegal settlers back inside Israel's borders.
Both of those are false, "fake news". Trump mocked the disabled man the same way he mocked able-bodied men and women.
So he mocked able-bodied men and women's able-bodiedness? Please, provide evidence of this. Sounds like fake news to me.
Ideology: A tool used primarily to avoid the bother of thinking.
So, two wrongs make a right and we should prove ourselves to be just as immature as the other political party? Prove that the DNC is better than that, and you will have more possibility of winning the next election, probe that you are just as bad, and lose yet again.
If it was wrong for the RNC to not work with Obama, how can it be right to not work with Trump?
Hey, don't ask me. I'm a Libertarian that thinks that the current political polarization of the US is the greatest threat to our country. I'm just stating it as what seems to be a factual observation or perhaps laconic humor at best.
No, it was among "the bucket of idiots" croud!
Even worse, they are trying to pretend like Trump is not even president which is something Republicans never did to Obama.
You mean the guy who was totally born in Kenya and thus not eligible to be president?
Their most ardent supporters (and most others) neither require nor expect any such veneer. So many in the world support the goal of extending Jews, and Hamas is merely one of the tools to that end.
Any justification of limiting Israel in both keeping territory gained in the defense of their nation and on selling that land only serves their enemies, those committed not merely to defeating Israel but exterminating Jews worldwide.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
What? The sheep have actually been gaining in income (1%) while the wolves aren't allowed to take with both hands (bene sucking parasites).
The middle class are getting squeezed, but that's about globalizm.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Well good job you decided to skip the middle man and simply elected one of the mega wealthy with a strong track record in crapping on ordinary people.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
No, people who espouse racial and religious segregation and internment are Nazis.
Keep pretending when a criminal commits a crime, the real reason he or she is being prosecuted is because of their religion or skin color...
Liberals fell for their own lies and lost by their own hubris.
And here you are doubling down on stupid, just digging yourself deeper.
I think less of people like you because you watched an adult mock a disabled person in front of a crowd and still supported him.
I don't believe you.
So, he mocks people on a regular basis by doing a spastic imitation, and mocked the disabled reporter, but wasn't mocking his disablility? And he didn't apologize for appearing to mock the disability? He's still an asshat.
he mocks able-bodied and disabled folks in the same way, by pretending they all have a physical disability
Democrats and Republicans both have mental disabilities. You keep voting for retarded candidates.
How is atheism a religion? Be specific here. What creed is there? What rituals?
The ritual where we sacrifice babies to the almighty dark lord Athé, of course.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
Gorram Slashdot.
That was meant to be Athe, but with an accent on the e.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
Trump grab comment was made before he hit the campaign trail.
No, he picks something to mock that will unsettle the person the most, of course.
A country founded by wealthy slave owners you mean.
By all means, if you've ever even remotely committed one sin, you are irredeemable and nothing you ever say or do should mean anything, ever.
You cured cancer? Fuck you, you lied once.
Rescued a child from a burning house? Fuck you, you looked at another woman.
Founded a nation on the principles of individual liberty? Fuck you, you were just like everyone else out there who also had slaves...
I'm not an American and I certainly wasn't defending Trump if you look at the whole thread. They both look terrible for different reason was my point.
so how would you describe the jerking, arm-clutched-to-the-chest motion he was making when he mocked the guy? what was the significance of it?
Here is the counter-argument. Decide for yourself.
I think less of people like you because you watched an adult mock a disabled person in front of a crowd and still supported him.
You got tricked by the media. Good job listening to propaganda, though. Well done man, well done. You're a real bright spark.
From Hillbots and other right-wing democrats. The only way they are "left" is being the left hand of the status quo, while the right hand talks shit about "illegal" immigrants. It's all designed to keep those who work for a living divided, so the rich can go on fucking every one over. It should have been a clue during the Democratic primary, where Hillbots were smearing Bernie Sanders and his supporters as white privileged know-nothings who were insensitive on race at best, while being a bunch of Bro misogynists.
This despite Hillary having a much more bigoted history than Trump - discrimination against gays, called black and brown kids Superpredators, wanted to throw refugee kids back to the military junta (that she supported) to "send a message to their parents".
The provlem with that line of reasoning is that the main reason that Israel is so good at creating settlements is because the Palestinians can't be bothered to.
who cares what the rest of the world thinks. if it wasn't for the USA there wouldn't be a rest of the world. so the rest of the world can go pound sand because this is the greatest nation the world has ever known.
You mean the guy who was totally born in Kenya and thus not eligible to be president?
So how many Republicans in power actually said he wasn't a legitimate president? How many made it a point to boycott his inauguration?
Nazis breathe air. You breathe air. Therefore you are a Nazi. Until you expand your reasoning as to why both circumstances being the same is also wrong, that is all your assertion amounts to.
After the shit show of the last election. Sure, Hilary had baggage. And the right wing press spent the last 20 years vilifying her to the point that a simple insecure email server of the type everybody in Washington ran (see:Colin Powell) helped sink her campaign. But she still shoulda beat Trump senseless. I'm guessing her and her supporters will get tossed out on their asses after a failure of this magnitude. This is defeat from the jaws of victory.
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Because we haven't heard "I'm better than you" from how fucking many of your compatriots already?
Face it, it isn't the people who you deign to look down on who got Trump Elected.
It's self-riteous shitbags like YOU that managed that!
And if you're going to continue being a jackass about it, like those dumbfucks at Buzzfeed (with their "Next Inauguration Day" countdown), you're going to get him RE-elected.
Congrats! Enjoy the fruits of your labor.
You guys used to have techies and sysadmins in your forums. Now all I see are a bunch of code monkeys and lactating SJW's that think NAZ| means National Capitalist Non-Union Party. How far you have fallen. Just scrap it and start over. You Left of Lenin dipsh|ts are contributing nothing to the World.
"Treating people equally is now discrimination."
This is why you lost.
Trump, love him or hate him, does what he believes is right, what he believes is in the best interest of this country. He doesn't make his decisions after consulting the special interests and self-appointed leadership of the conservative movement
Trump said he would abolish the TPP on day one of his presidency. This can be the test to see if he is true to his word.
My ism, it's full of beliefs.
> On trade, what if trade-wars start and it becomes clear after a while those wars are hurting our economy? Will he back down, or double down?
We've seen in the campaign, he doesn't tend to back down.
> And what will he do if Russia invades more territory? If he keeps ignoring it, we may get Soviet Union 2.0. Those were scary days with too many close calls; we don't want them back.
Same - he doesn't back down.
In some situations, this tendency to double-down rather than back down could lead to some "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" moments. (That was considered very inflammatory by foreign policy people at the time). It may also result in "Mr. Pieto, pay for this wall!", which would be a facepalm.
News for Nazis
This. Garbage like this is exactly why Trump won the election
Finally an N-word that racists don't like!
So how many Republicans in power actually said he wasn't a legitimate president?
Let's see, Try here. That's a lot of gabbling, isn't it? At best, you have them pandering to the Birthers, which is shameful on its own, perhaps more so.
That's just in Congress, doesn't count Sheriff Arpaio or Donald Trump.
You kinda lose on the Birther High Ground with Donald Trump there.
How many made it a point to boycott his inauguration?
I dunno, but at least one was asinine at a State of the Union. Plenty of incivility from the GOP at that.
And face it, Scalia had been running his mouth off for a while too. And Alito got so hysterical he totally had a bitchfest over a majority opinion that he joined a dissent just to whine.
Lets get this straight, people: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GOD!
citation please.
Your absolute arrogance of certainty Trumps reason, you possess no evidence either way.
As an atheist it reminds me that I am not represented and that people would still be happy to come at me with their torches and pitchforks.
Booo Hooo, why don't you go off and cry and wait for the world to say sorry to you. As an atheist any foundation for your moral behavior comes from the bible you criticize, as a nihilist your moral platform is empty as everything is meaningless.
All it shows is that you are too stupid to understand the messages in the bible that are separate from theism. I doubt you've ever read it to have a platform for your position. May God bless you and fuck your depressing ideology.
Is he homophobic? I get the first two but I don't remember any homophobia.
Trump is a reductivist.
He pigeonholes everybody by stereotypes (like his thing about only wanting jews for accountants not black guys).
So if he holds a positive stereotype then its not quite so bad. But its still literally prejudice. And a negative stereotype, well nobody would mistake that for anything but bigotry.
But even if Trump isn't a flaming homofoe, Pence totally is. And thus trump's platform is standard republican hating on teh gays.
The only time they had anything positive to say about gay people was to use them as a prop to bash muslims because all muslims want to behead gay people and the american taliban just wants to never have anything to do with them ever.
Don't worry about him, he's a maggot just like all of the other "mature", "civilized", "non-Nazi" people tearing up DC right now.
It is really interesting to watch mental filters in action. Facts come in but the ones that conflict with preconceived biases get redirected to /dev/null while the facts that confirm those biases are laid neatly on your mental desk.
If your wife or girlfriend isn't fat and ugly then you may be a hypocrite.
Would you believe that there are actually some people (some of them who are men even) who think women can have value beyond being wives or girlfriends?
Ideology: A tool used primarily to avoid the bother of thinking.
Well so much for their narrative that the Democrats are the "better people".
The American voting public made it clear that they were going to vote against "better people". The Democrats are acting as per the voters' wishes.
Hate to go grammar nazi on your insightful comment, but your typos are so consistent I'm convinced you're using some wonky kind of speech recognition software. A simple search and replace would've fixed s/.ould of/&ould have/
"watched an adult mock a disabled person" -- That is both fake news known to be a lie (just take 10 secs to Google it) and proof that we all see what we want to see. It's also proof that when corrected the media still tells the same lies.
"saw a man spouting clear racism" -- That is yet another lie and again proof one sees what one wants to see.
Good comment and I'd give you the 5th insightful point if I ever got a mod.
You didn't mention the detail that he doesn't even have the guts to put his name on his dump. The abuse of anonymity has become part of the sickness of our Internet-centric society. Personal reputation matters, but not to ACs or #PresidentTweety.
There's an interesting philosophic debate about why bad things happen to good people, but no one has to ask why good things happen to bad people. They are using their badness to get the good things.
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
To speak of "believing in Buddha" makes it clear that you've no understanding of Buddhism.
by a yuuuuge margin let me tell ya.
Right on bro, and FDR was the biggest nazi of them all. What with internment camps and all.
I wish I had the guts to tell this kind of thing to people's face.
Instead, I've perfected the art of biting my own tongue for the sake of peace. But I seek solace in the fact that it doesn't matter, you can't change other people's fundamental belief structure. If they're backwards cultural apologists, or backwards themselves, that's just who they are. Instead, I think what we should be doing is motivating our own people to vote - not just every 4 years, but in midterms and off-year elections too.
If you found out that Clinton announced the closing september would that surprise you?
Surprise!
Islam is not a real religion, so of course it was rightfully not represented.
You may have just found the solution to redefining America great again!
I still think that tag line is clever. I'm just curious what orange will look like when it rains?
Do your position is that Obama was a good president, not worse than Bush, Clinton, bush sr or Reagan? Or will you undermine your own statement? Or were they vas but trump good?
Make America Chumpf again!
yes, a mexican fighting for illegal immigrants, which trump opposed.
no way would he be un biased.
The greatest right given is the right to be wrong...
That's because you've only seen the ones where a black man is running or a creature like Trump.
Were you born a homosexual?
Trump is a clown. His followers are sheep. Discuss ...
I don't think the OP thought that everyone who disagrees with him is a nazi. I suspect he simply realizes you just handed your presidency over to the biggest internet troll in history.
Trump is the president that 48% of Americans deserve. Unfortunately, 100% of Americans will (already are) feeling the effects. Racial and gender prejudices inflamed, fear mongering, and a total disregard for consequences.
Dear Mexico;
Let's not wait for Trump. Let's you and I build the walls ourselves. I'm pretty sure once we get started the rest of the world will chip in and help too. Maybe, just maybe, if we can build it in time we can contain this lunacy before it gets out.
Sincerely,
Canada.
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@xevioso It's a good quote, but you should provide attribution.
We've crossed that bridge already. He has spooks under his command that will carry out such orders even if the military will not.
You do not appear to know much about him but I think you'll be learning quite a lot in the next few years and especially why the USA is a Republic and not a Kingdom which is the way Trump wants to run things.
The "prosperity gosphel" merchants in the temple keep on telling themselves that they have "Deeply Held Religious Beliefs" and they'd see someone as rich as Trump says he is as virtually the Messiah (when he's really just a very naughty boy that never grew up).
However the "God wants you to vote Republican" shit is just as sick and twisted as if it was the opposite. The founding fathers took a lot of care to make sure there wasn't a state religion - if you want that shit go to fucking Iran and see how it works out there.
Mocking the diabled: Video, 45 seconds long: http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2...
Trump racism: Let's start with 1973 charges of discrimination in housing, then work forward to 2016 where he said the Central Park Five should go to jail DESPITE DNA evidence exonerating them, with all sorts of gems along the way. http://fortune.com/2016/06/07/... Oh... and then there's the famous quote about Mexicans. And suggesting a blanket ban on Muslims as a category.
Advocating for war crimes: March 2016, defending ordering the US military to commit war crimes of killing non-combatants that are family members of those in combat http://www.washingtontimes.com... Also advocates for waterboarding and worse in several interviews and speeches.
Regarding treatment of women: Ah, the famous "grab them by the pussy" video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Even black women in Atlanta (Lewis's district) agreed with Trump.
Uh -- correction: that link is to a story involving ONE black woman, who apparently was already a Trump supporter before this week.
And you call that uncalculated... that tweet was carefully chosen in target to increase black support for Trump.
And you have a poll or something to support that? No -- you have an anecdote from one black person who was already a Trump supporter. (So, even for this ONE person, there's no evidence cited of "increased black support.")
Now: what you say MIGHT be true of a few black voters, particularly local folks in the Congressman's district who are fed up with him. But there are people in every Congressional district in the country who are fed up with their Congressman. Outside of Atlanta, I'm pretty certain that all most liberal or moderate people (white or black) saw was a rich white dude attacking a Civil Rights Era hero on MLK day.
Thus, even IF your narrative is true and indicative of some minor loss of support for Lewis in his district, it's pretty certain that the tweet likely incited even more hatred among blacks against Trump for those outside of the district and unfamiliar with Lewis's record.
All I got from that article was an illustration of how an incomplete education paired with misinformation results in an uninformed electorate.
The extreme right wingers infesting parts of Israel's government at this time would use that excuse if they see a Palestinian breathing. Not dead thus incapable of peace. That's the sort of really fucked up people you are defending, the ones where it's OK to break every deal offered with an air strike - preferably just in time for an election.
Trump is making slashdot great again!
Slashdot, fix the reply notifications... You won't get away with it...
But did you vote for him in the general election? That's the problem most of us on the left have -- your guy lost in the primary, but most Republicans didn't switch to Clinton. If Romney or Jeb were the nominee, we on the left would be unhappy, but not panicked. Today's inaugural included a call for a loyalty pledge, and it was part of a broader theme that is quite literally terrifying. This isn't someone who is just putting in place different economic policies than I want or someone who disagrees with me on a given treaty or even whether we should go to war or not. Instead, Trump gave this speech... one that claims the richest nation on Earth with the most powerful military is somehow in terrible shape, one that announces that we are going to put ourselves first instead of trying to help the world come together as one. We've never been a humble nation, but we've tried to get beyond the arrogance of the 1950s where we thought we were better than everyone else. We tried desperately NOT to exercise extreme power when we became the only superpower after USSR collapsed. That policy went away today in favor of the USA trying to get the best in every situation instead of sharing our wealth with the rest of the world.
"From this moment on, it's going to be America First." "We will seek friendship and goodwill with the nations of the world -- but we do so with the understanding that it is the right of all nations to put their own interests first." "At the bedrock of our politics will be a total allegiance to the United States of America, and through our loyalty to our country, we will rediscover our loyalty to each other." -- President Trump, Inaugural Address
Pretty fucking ineffective but it makes the Saudis and Iranians who paid for those old inaccurate Shah era rockets to be shipped over feel warm inside for contributing to the "struggle".
It is fucked up on many levels with not just a few utter pieces of shit on both sides but also outsiders egging things on.
Reality is a lot of sheep and a few wolves. The wolves fare better in every system other than a democracy. Where "might makes right" you get wolves in charge.
Was that dumbed down enough to match the really dumb quote you lifted from a rabid wolf who falsely attributed it to Franklin? Franklin spent a big chunk of his life pushing damned hard for a pure democracy.
Asking for a ban on Muslims isn't racism. It isn't a race, it's a religion.
I also add that it's a religion that wants to implement a global Caliphate under Sharia Law. Which is contrary to the US Constitution.
More News for Nerds, stuff that matters...
i am so very tired....
Wow -- you actually weren't even aware of that comment? And yet you came to this detailed defense of him here?
See -- here's the problem: it's not any one thing. It's a "preponderance of the evidence" thing. And I am far from a "leftist" -- I hate both major parties with a passion and found both major candidates this election to be some of the worst choices EVER.
But Trump is simply in a "different league" of problems. That's why people assume he made fun of a disabled guy. I've seen the Catholics for Trump propaganda before. Maybe it's true. But there are other details about the specific references Trump made that also make me doubt his claim. Personally, I'd give Trump's story that he wasn't actually intentionally making fun of a disability about 5% chance of being true.
And that's mostly because of Trump's other record. He doesn't get to have "the benefit of the doubt" in a case like this when he's been a bullying boorish jerk the rest of the time. And yes, he DOES behave like a jerk. He DOES behave like a bully to many people IN PUBLIC. (I hear he's nice to people in person. That's great. But it's not the persona on the campaign trail.) I personally don't care much about the disability issue -- the very fact that Trump tends to make fun of people rather than debate their issues is a MUCH bigger problem to me than whether or not he insulted a disabled person. (The latter obviously is still a significant issue if true, but again, it's the larger pattern that's concerning, rather than that one detail.)
It seems like you, like many people who ultimately voted for Trump, just decided that you're going to believe the talking points of his supporters that the rest of the media was lying. I fully believe a lot of the mainstream media also exaggerated a bunch of things too (though, to be fair, Trump frequently egged them into doing so by behaving increasingly outlandish to get attention).
I really am trying to give our new President a chance today. Really. I'll wait and see what he does over the next weeks and months. But it distresses me when someone who comes out so strongly as a Trump defender is then not even familiar with the fact that Trump has advocated war crimes!! To me, it shows how warped the message has gotten to many voters. (And yes, it occurs on both sides, but the disconnect from reality has started to increase significantly much more on one of them.)
You're only partially right. His call was for a ban from those from specific countries, and that means there's nearly 100% overlap between "Muslim" and "Arab", enough to properly put this on the list as "racist" in my book. But let's grant that technicality to you. It is still negatively stereotyping an entire group of people by the actions of a few, so it is hardly a redeeming value.
No, actually, that's a tenet of a specific branch of Islam, not the religion as a whole. Yes, it is mentioned in the Koran, but using that as the basis for the ban would be akin to suggesting that all Jews want to implement the Jewish dietary laws across the USA or that all Christians favor stoning for adultery. As with all religions, not all Muslims are such fundamentalists.
Then they would have done it, as the regional superpower.
Pure zionist dumbfuckery. Reality: almost none of the Jews living in Israel were living there in 1948, or descended from those who were. They're all immigrants from other countries, making Israel a racist colonialist apartheid state from Day 1. Israel would never have seen the light of day without land theft and ethnic cleansing.
So your defence of Trump is basically, "Trump is not a racist! He may hate people for the country they were born in, the country they reside in, the sex they were born as, the gender they identify as, the colour of their skin, their race, the religion they practice, their culture, their physical appearance, their physical disabilities... but he is definitely not a porn star!"
Wow, what a swell guy, no wonder you voted for him!
Take it up with the Israeli government - they're the ones who created Hamas, to weaken support for Fatah.
Spare us the zionist horseshit. It has nothing to do with Israelis being Jews, and everything with being a colonialist state based on immigrants stealing land from people who have lived there for centuries.
Both the 1948 and 1967 wars were started by Israel. By your logic, if Egypt was typed off about the IDF's sneak attack and the Arab response crushed the state of Israel, they would have been perfectly justified in claiming all of Israel and expelling all Israelis.
If you think they're bad, you should see how many potential babies I genocided on your mom's face last night!
Why not. They are the victims of colonialism, land theft, ethnic cleansing and apartheid.
Bullshit revisionist history of Biblical proportions. Palestinians are legally entitled to all of the territory taken by Israel in the 1967, which was started by Israel - save the Golan Heights, which belongs to Syria. That includes Jerusalem, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, which has been under a constant blockade by the Israeli government. Still, they were willing to make massive concessions they didn't have to - but Israel kept moving the goalposts, demanding control over water and making increasingly absurd demands.
That's the thing though, his actions have proven that Trump does whatever is best for Trump, America and everyone else be damned.
Don't you know - she uses email! Lock her up!
Sadly that's seen as enough for these partisan pricks who would not even care if Trump was outed as a kiddie fucker.
we won't know the real obama performance due to pc, any criticism will immediately be branded as racism.
So you decided to cut out the person in the middle and go directly to the living personification of everything negative about the mega wealthy?
I think less of people like you because you watched an adult mock a disabled person in front of a crowd and still supported him.
I don't believe you.
I think less of you because you saw a man spouting clear racism and backed him.
1. [citation needed]
2. Islam isn't a race.
3. Illegal immigrants do not have a right to be in this country... by definition.
1. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=racist+quotes+trump
2. Islam, like Judaism, is considered an ethno-religious group, granted not to the degree that Judaism is. Even if you don't want to concede that point and so it's not racism, it doesn't negate Trumps discriminatory remarks and proposed plans, which would fall under the larger umbrella of bigotry.
3. A person's immigration status isn't an invitation for racist remarks.
I think less of you because you listened to him advocate for war crimes, and still thought he should run this country.
If you mean that he would waterboard ISIS then I'm having a hard time feeling sorry for ISIS.
One way to judge a society is by how it treats its prisoners.
I think less of people like you because you watched him equate a woman’s worth to her appearance and got on board.
If your wife or girlfriend isn't fat and ugly then you may be a hypocrite.
If you think Hillary is better on this point-- considering that she enabled her husband's infamous behavior-- then you're a hypocrite.
You just equated a woman's worth to her appearance. Wow. Just wow.
"But Hillary!!@!11?!" A person's sexism isn't measured relative to someone else. Also Hillary isn't to blame for Bill's transgressions. Next you're going to tell me a rape victim had it coming because he/she wore a provocative outfit, was in the wrong place at the wrong time, and was asking for it. If you're going to say that Hillary "enabled her husband's infamous behavior" then you should look into becoming a gun control lobbyist because those pesky gun manufacturers definitely enabled those bad gunmen to do bad things.
It is your personal willingness to support racism, sexism, and cruelty.
1. [citation needed]
2. argumentum ad nauseam
1. Refer to your own reply. So meta.
2. Yeah, this is getting to be a rather nauseating argument.
You sided with a bully when it mattered and that is something I will never forget.
1. He's not.
2. Just because someone directly challenges you or your opinions or ideas doesn't make them a bully. The internet isn't a safe space.
1. Fine. Again a technicality in terms of labeling. He's not a "textbook bully". Even so, that same article points to the fact that Trump is aggressive. The nice way to put it would be uncivil. But as nice as that label is, it doesn't erase the negative connotation that goes with it. On top of aggressive, he is rude, insulting, and disrespectful. He may not be a bully, but he certainly employs the tactics of one. Is that a duck I see?
2. The internet isn't a safe space. Better keep Trump away. I hear he doesn't like him or his ideas and opinions being directly challenged.
So, no people like you and I won’t be “coming together” to move forward or whatever. Trump disgusts me, but it is the fac
Damn - should have read your post instead of posting something almost identical.
Romney wasn't the 70th governor of Massachusetts?
I think less of people like you because you watched an adult mock a disabled person in front of a crowd and still supported him.
I don't believe you.
Then I have a bridge to sell you because the fact he was mocking the disability is really, really, really obvious.
Just because you like Trump doesn't mean you need to defend every obvious lie he makes.
I stole this Sig
Trump likes rape!!!
Shame on you.
What USA do YOU live in? I was not allowed to work until I presented a birth certificate and I'm a white male.
Fuck you. You can stick your head in the sand but we are fucking woke, bro.
Trump mocked the disabled man the same way he mocked able-bodied men and women.
Trump mocked a disabled reporter in a way that mimicked his disability. That is an undisputed fact. The only disputed part is whether or not he did it deliberately.
Trump has not expressed any racist statements;
Leaving the birther conspiracy aside for one moment (which is probably the most obvious example of racism on Trump's part)...
"If you look at his wife, she was standing there. She had nothing to say. She probably, maybe she wasn’t allowed to have anything to say."
- Trump on Khizr Khan
"He’s a Mexican. We’re building a wall between here and Mexico. The answer is, he is giving us very unfair rulings — rulings that people can’t even believe."
- Trump on Judge Gonzalo Curiel, who is presiding over the Trump University class action. (And if you don't think that counts as racist... "Claiming a person can’t do their job because of their race is sort of like the textbook definition of a racist comment." - Paul Ryan)
"Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys wearing yarmulkes Those are the only kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else Besides that, I tell you something else. I think that’s guy’s lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks."
- Quoted by John O'Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino
You should re-read what you wrote, particularly this bit: "Here's what I'm mainly worried about -- now that Trump's President, the gloves come off of every single loud-mouthed, opinionated angry citizen who loves to moan and complain."
Your big fear is that a free people might actually be free to speak their minds???
People have always thought and said things that other people disliked. It's a very recent thing in America that average people were intimidated into not speaking their minds. "Political Correctness" does not make people change what they think/believe - it only makes them smile and lie, saying what the "approved" thoughts are rather than what they really think. Political correctness in the USA only dates back to the 1990s when Hillary Clinton got her husband to Bill to bring Donna Shalala (from the University of Wisconsin, Madison, AKA "Moscow West") into the federal government at HHS and she immediately started pushing her "speech codes" into the federal government. The Bush admin went along with the rot instead of stopping it, and then the Obama administration doubled-down on this evil intimidation, and now we have a "snowflake" generation of Americans who are afraid of that most core American thing: free speech.
Relax. Breathe some free air. Think some thoughts of your own. Feel free to say what you think/believe. Most-importantly, tolerate others doing the same and rather than heaping hate on somebody who says something you disagree with, smile and note that his/her freedom is the same as yours and it means you are also free.
1. The words "separation of church and state" do not occur anywhere in the US Constitution or Declaration of Independence. They originated in a letter from Thomas Jefferson (a founder, author of the Declaration, but NOT author of the Constitution) to a church before the Constitution was ratified. In that letter, Jefferson promised that, if they supported this new-fangled Constitution and the government it established, that government would have no power to interfere in their religion. That was the deal. There was NO promise that religion and religious people could not influence government and had such a statement been made then the religious population of the USA would never have approved the Constitution. Oh, and the "deal" has been breached many times by the government which has imposed the Johnson Ammendment on conservative churches for decades.
2. The United States was founded by 12 officially Protestant Chrisitan colonies (which had state-affiliated churches), and one officially Catholic colony. At the time there were a small number of Jews in the US (President Washington made a point of visiting their Synagogue) but very few people of any other religion. The US has been predominantly Christian for its entire history and many Presidents (including Democrat icon FDR) have lead the nation in actual prayers. The nation's founders (who, having written the Constitution CLEARLY understood what it meant) held church services in the Capitol buildngs, and used federal funds to buy Bibles for the troops. There are cultural and traditional reasons to have Christian (Protestant and Catholc) and Jewish leaders and prayers in the public spaces and ceremonies in the US, but there are no cultural/traditional/historical reasons to have Imams and Islam involved. Indeed, the nation's first war after that little breakup with England of course, was against the Tripoli Pirates (the Radical Islamc Terrorists of that time who were murdering and enslaving Americans). American Marines are nicknamed "Leathenecks" because they wore leather collars to make it harder for Muslim fighters to behead them in combat.
The First Amendment prohibits the federal government from ESTABLISHING a church; it CANNOT create a church and then prefer that church and require the population to attend or pay taxes to, etc that "established" church. Our founders, being mostly Englishmen, wanted to prohibit in America what the King of England had done when he created the Church of England and made it the official church of his nation. That's not the same as prohibiting churches or religion, and indeed the Anglican churches were allowed in America. The First Amendment explicitly prohibits limitations on religion and therefore the government is powerless to stop some politicians from inviting a handful of religious figures to pray or read scriptures at a public event.
I am dismayed by people who are dismayed by the mention of God in America; it's evidence of intolerance and poor education.
It was a marketing breakthrough, and you fell for it.
Obama did a bunch of internet-based propaganda efforts to keep his supporters thinking he was their messiah. He put in place online petitions, continually hyped his climate efforts, had NASA hyping a "mission to Mars", etc all to keep you loyal to him.
The simple facts are these:
1. the climate-related activities of the government were not affected in any way by the White House website.
2. Obama ignored any petition he disagreed with. When he did something he wanted to do anyway, and that thing just happened to align with some petition, his supporters were fooled into thinking he was listening to them and their petitions mattered.
3. NASA under Obama was not headed to Mars - he never proposed any budget for such a mission or to build any hardware for such a mission. The rocket NASA is building which might enable some future mars mission was funded and pushed by congress (BOTH parties) over Obama's objections and he tried to kill it every single year he was in office.
were started by Democrats (the Civil war, the Vietnam War) or entered by Democrats (WWI, WWII, Korea) or started by/under Republicans (Spanish-American, Afghanistan, and Iraq) but supported by Democrats. The Democrat party has been on the side of war for every single war in US history.
The point: While neither party fully liable for these wars, the idea that a Republican is naturally a war monger is pure political propganda which Democrats have played with since the 1960s when Lyndon johnson said Barry Goldwater would start a nuclear war (then Johnson won election and dragged us through Vietnam). They accused Reagan of being a reckless cowboy who would start a nuclear war (then he won election and ended up winning the Cold War and freeing millions of people from soviet domination without firing a shot). Now, after a year of Democrats demanding hostilities against a nuclear-armed Russia, it's rather interesting to see all the blather about how dangerous Trump might be...
Amen to that. Faggets and libtards out.
The Palestinians are the Nazis then.
The fact that he uses such a mockery of being 'retarded' against anyone regardless if they're disabled is appalling in and of itself. Again, this is the action of a grade school bully.
The fact that he couldn't restrain himself in doing that to mock someone who is disabled (whom he had met in the past so knew he was disabled) is pathetic. The fact that people ignored this (and everything else) and voted for him anyway is just saddening and frankly unforgivable.
"he's really just a very naughty boy that never grew up"
And that's the rub. He still acts like a spoiled brat stuck in puberty...
Not for some time. Certainly not since Trump has been campaigning for president.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
No, Nazis are a specific brand of racial and religious supremacy. And you can say that Trump is a bad person without saying he's a Nazi (he'd be a really bad one, seeing as how his daughter converted to Judaism).
So... are you saying he's just a regular, garden variety Fascist, or perhaps just falls into the despot group in general.
Because his first acts were to start putting his friend and family into positions of power... which is something I expect to see in a 3rd world dictatorship, not on the so-called bastion of the free world.
And I suspect that is just the beginning of the comparisons we'll be making between Trump and tin pot dictators.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
Your rage is a source of merriment to me. Feel free to amuse me further. :)
Ignoring the continued commitment of Arabs in the Middle East (worldwide, actually) to exterminate Jews certainly makes it easier to blame Israel exclusively. Even in 1948 the Arab world would have annihilated the Jewish populations in all middle eastern regions.
The creation of the modern Jewish state has been bloody. But when I consider the Arab treatment of those in Palestine, that is the great tragedy.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
"But Hillary" isn't an answer. We were doomed by the primaries. Neither candidate should have made it into the general election.
Using one as an excuse for the other ignores the role of both parties in placing terrible candidates on the ballot.
We need a better voting system, one which focuses on who you want in office instead of who you hate the most.
All my liberal friends think I'm a conservative, all my conservative friends think I'm a liberal.
Polls are relevant, dumbass.
You're a moron if you somehow believe hating Muslims has nothing to do with race.
He was right.
Go on to Jonesville if you wish.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
The irony in this post is too thick. Calling other people idiots, when you don't even know how to spell crowd.
made in the USA right don.
-I don't care what you believe.
-Citation provided.
-since race is an artificial construct anyway, it's as good a word as any to describe bigotry against a distinct cultural ethnic group a more concise term is coined
-debatable; migration rights are largely seen as a basic human right. and they still have rights under the constitution, particularly in the area of due process, the constitution being a document that describes not just the relation between the government and citizen, but more accurately the government and any person subject to its authority.
-torture is a war crime
-so is retaliatory executions, even the uber-conservative and generally delusional Washington times agrees
-so is the targeting of families
-your views on women, looks, and what constitutes hypocrisy don't even merit a response. but I will say, you should start by looking up the definition of hypocrisy
-citation already provided
-Yes he is, though I can see how its hard for you to see, when you willfully ignore and dismiss everything he's done, as you have in the above mentioned topics.
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
"I know Hitler says a lot of things.
But he probably doesn't mean them.
I'll worry about his anti-Semitic comments when we get to that bridge.
The solution, of course, is to not carry out his orders if he does order such things.........."
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
you're an idiot.
How is it fake if you admit that he mocked the disabled reporter?
And he didn't mock like "like he did able bodied" people.
We went into a pantomime of the mans disability.
Yes, he mocked a man with disabilities.
As for the racism...yes, he's racist:
He has said and done racist things, and gone so far as to blatantly appeal to the white nationalist movement (AKA, Nazis and kkk)
https://slashdot.org/comments....
A short and very incomplete list of completely racist things Trump has said or done:
-"theres one of my blacks"
-"mexico is sending us rapists"
-"laziness is a trait in blacks"
-"the judge is a Mexican"
-"they don’t look like Indians to me... They don’t look like Indians to Indians.”
-supports stop-and-frisk, as practiced by the NYPD (ie, unconstitutional and racially discriminatory), and wants it expanded nationwide, claiming it worked, contrary to all evidence
-Obama's birth certificate
-condoned the abuse and even beatings of multiple Black Lives Matter protesters and other minorities at his campaign rallies
-regularly engages in anti-Semitism
-treats his minority supporters as literal tokens
-treats minorities and racial groups as monolithic stereotypes
-thinks all African americans live in the inner city, are poor, without work, receiving welfare, and uneducated, and that the inner city is a hell hole
-saying 88% of white murders are committed by black folks
-repeating statements from white supremacists multiple occasions
-making blatant dog whistles to the alt-right, white supremacist crowd
-not condemning or distancing from white supremacists campaigning for him, including David Duke
-encouraged mob justice against the Central Park 5, and continues to insist they are guilty years after its proven otherwise, including spending 85k$ on full page ads in the paper advocating for their execution
-being sued by the federal government on multiple occasions for not renting to minorities
Hell, even when he claims to be trying to reach out, he's doing so in white communities and actually only repeating racist myths and stereotypes that are meant to appeal to white voters and make them feel better about voting for such overt racist.
His sons kept appearing on white supremacist radio programs..."accidentally".
Once may be an accident. Twice, you need to fire your booking agent. four times and counting? its no longer accidental or someone else's fault.
Donald Trump IS racist, regardless of the efforts of the ignorant to ignore it or explain it away.
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
As the president of the largest democratic nation on Earth
what's india got to do with this?
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
Pretty accurate, but the list should also include Bush Jr, especially the second election.
Heh, I guess some things really were better in the old days.
Perhaps that is why God had Peter record in First Peter
not that there isn't a lot of other good stuff in the rest of the chapter.
if you're for inclusion and tolerance, wtf would you support the opposite of those things?
tolerance does not mean tolerating intolerance.
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
If you're talking about land size. Canada is the world's largest democracy. (unless you consider Russia democratic- then it is).
Only if you count lakes as "land". The sizes of China, US and Canada are quite close to each other and which one comes at the top depends on silly details like that.
Amen.
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
Citations please? Yea, I didn't think so. You just didn't like him so you're grabbing onto anything to support your view. Even if it's total BS.
You held onto Hillary even though she's a traitor (The e-mail server problem is a violation of the Espionage act, so she's a traitor), she's saw to it when she was secretary of state to sell uranium to the Russians - https://www.nytimes.com/2015/0... . She's corrupt as hell with her "foundation" that's reminiscent of Evita Perone, the fascist dictator's wife.... and so on and so on and so on. You'll overlook everything just as people overlooked Hitler's flaws. Very few differences between Hitler and Hillary when you get right down to it.
So racism? Example?
Sexism? Example?
Cruelty? Example?
There are none, even though Hillary's campaign tried even to buy people to say he was sexist. One by one we showed they were simply paid actors. Good actors. They fooled you. Soros had a lot to lose after all. He lost billions when she lost. He spent billions on her winning so he could make a trillion. You're what he calls - "a useful idiot." Not being a troll here, they actually think that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Sounds like you don't know that the only people more full of shit than right wing SJW democrats are heterosexual christians who think the world is out to get them.
What part of "it has nothing to do with them being Jews" was a hard concept? It could have been Freemasons following the same colonialist project and the results are the same.
See above.
Translation: the Arab states should have taken in millions of Palestinians being ethnically cleansed from their lands, so Israel wouldn't have to bother with this whole Apartheid system. Zionism is based on racism and bullshit excuses.
"Nazi" is a bit too specific to fit the situation. "pissy little clueless baby-man" is more like it.
Pretty fucking ineffective but it makes the Saudis and Iranians who paid for those old inaccurate Shah era rockets to be shipped over feel warm inside for contributing to the "struggle".
It is fucked up on many levels with not just a few utter pieces of shit on both sides but also outsiders egging things on.
Seeing as Israel spends large amounts dealing with these :ineffective attacks", calling them ineffective sounds like wishful thinking on your part, or perhaps failure to understand the goal.
Don't forget that he's already banned the free press from White House press conferences after a long political campaign during which he vilified and targeted journalists, sometimes even specifically by name, simply for being journalists.
Actually, the Central American refugees seeking asylum in the IS have been placed in "holding sites" that are completely indistinguishable from internment camps with absolutely deplorable conditions, no access to legal counsel, no access to health care providers willing to volunteer their services (I am one such provider), and penned in rooms far beyond capacity.
It helps to pay attention to current events before you make claims about current events.
Bernie could have won in a landslide...
Don't kid yourself. If the democrats had fielded a banana with a smiley face drawn on it, we would now have a fruity president.
Believe what you like, when Trump gains 10% more of the black vote in the next election you will understand...
That story was about just one woman, but she's just an example of many.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
The problem with that line of reasoning is that Israel bulldozes the houses that Palestinians built and are living in, and if Palestinians dare to do anything similar, the Israelis cry and whine to the world about how terrible those terrorists are for knocking down the houses that Israelis built and are living in.
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed rich people, meeting in secret, can change the world." :-P
Greatest, or at least just about in the top thirty on most benchmarks of living standards!
I'm saying he's certainly an authoritarian, but not a Nazi. That's it.
Examine even your most deeply held beliefs. Nobody is always right.
That comes nowhere near reflecting everything that went on and you know it.
There is zero indication that anyone considering themselves "Palestinians" lived there. So if you want to play that game...
How does it not have anything with them being Jews? Are you deliberately ignoring the plain language of the Arab states and Hamas?
If you cannot accept that, it is you who is deluded.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
Keep it up. Moron. Keep thinking this is about (some group) doing something nasty to (some other group) because they can get away with it because of the new President.
It ain't about social groups, not at all.
Its about economic groups.
Its about business people that believe, that because of the new president they will be able to keep their small business in business. Its about the working group that believes that becuase of the new president, they will be able to find a good job turning wrenches and running backhoes and welding pipelines rather than stocking shelves. Its about that same latter group believing that because of the new president they will not have 50 illegal aliens show up to take that job at less than minimum wage under the table so that staying home on unemployment or "disability" is still more profitable than taking such a job.
Its like Bill Clinton's 1st campaign slogan, "Its the economy, stupid."
So that makes you the idiot.
Which makes perfect sense actually. Even if you kill all the terrorists, if you don't also take out their societal support structures and the people who raise them, there'll be an endless supply of them. At the moment we can still hold them at bay and maybe even win. Wait a few decades and if you haven't solved the problem then, they'll conquer us and they won't show us any mercy either.
Er, what supposedly went down anything like that. I haven't heard anything remotely like people being forced out of their homes. And you do realize you redundantly said force twice. Idiot.
Citation needed.
Seems like you've been misinformed: https://www.bing.com/search?q=...
For such people of "tolerance", the leftists seem to express it in a violent, intolerant, and [somewhat] inconsistent way.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
There being agreements that Palestinians not seek unilateral recognition of a Palestinian state is something that neither of them should have agreed to. This has recently come to my attention. That's not how achieving nationhood should work.
I'm calling them ineffective because they are actively harming the Palestinian cause, providing an excuse for retalatory airstrikes and the psychos who launch those old missiles don't even get the bloodthirsty satisfaction of killing people.
As for those "large amounts", it comes out of US military aid and helps reinforce the aid supply (which is not going to be cut off as long as those rockets keep flying). "Defending against terrorist rockets" is a pretty damned good reason to help out another country and even isolationists are going to think twice about cutting off that aid.
Meanwhile our "friends" in Saudi Arabia are paying for these rockets.
Look overseas and it's not so ridiculous all the time either. The amount of utter hate in the last few elections in the USA has been exceptional. All those people who wanted to use the "N" word with Obama, Trump being Trump and Baby Bush after a few people started to work out that the Iraq war was nothing but a personal vanity project with a death toll. That's not normal in the US or anywhere. People said they hated Bill Clinton, but compared with Obama and Trump it was just annoyance.
You say you don't mind he has different politics right before you fire off the ad hominem torpedoes. Typical leftist hypocrisy.
wah wah wah.. hillary lost, get over it.
"You people have become entirely irrelevant"
Yeah girls back to the kitchen now and not a word ya heah?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leveling_mechanism
I'm calling them ineffective because they are actively harming the Palestinian cause, providing an excuse for retalatory airstrikes and the psychos who launch those old missiles don't even get the bloodthirsty satisfaction of killing people.
It would serve you well to at least google a topic before you pretend expertise.
As for those "large amounts", it comes out of US military aid and helps reinforce the aid supply (which is not going to be cut off as long as those rockets keep flying). "Defending against terrorist rockets" is a pretty damned good reason to help out another country and even isolationists are going to think twice about cutting off that aid.
Meanwhile our "friends" in Saudi Arabia are paying for these rockets.
Yes because the U.S. needed rocket attacks to provide aid to Israel and the aid will stop if the rockets stop.
Hasn't stopped you before Crash and perhaps you should try try it on this one.
This is like talking to an Eliza bot - you've gone and told me I am not correct about something but not pointed out what it is - utterly fucking useless. It's clearly just one of your stock insults.
I know a sentence there is long but getting to the end of it or at least the words "even isolationists" before replying is the polite thing to do. The rockets make it popular to oppose the idiots setting off rockets - thus counterproductive.
Hasn't stopped you before Crash and perhaps you should try try it on this one.
This is like talking to an Eliza bot - you've gone and told me I am not correct about something but not pointed out what it is - utterly fucking useless. It's clearly just one of your stock insults.
And yet you somehow haven't managed to correct your errors ? The rockets have killed Israelis and visitors to the country and they do serve a purpose.
The rockets make it popular to oppose the idiots setting off rockets - thus counterproductive
That would be the same rockets that according to you don't do anything.
Now why don't you at least crack the wikipedia on the history of modern Israel, you only need to go back to WWI. Hint start with the Balfour declaration. That way the next time you sound out on this, you can at least get the parameters of the conflict correct.
There are other examples. I assure you, it can be difficult to be a non-Christian in the US.
It's the same exact shit he does when he mocks any other person.
Yes. He likes to mock people by implying that they're disabled. Fake news? Fuck you, dude.
You and your ilk are branding anything inconvenient to you as "fake news", like the inauguration turnout. Fake news. Show picture taken from the front, not the back, that'll make my claim more legit! Because every glass looks full from below.
I can't tell if you're dishonest, or just a fucking moron.
Frankly, I don't give a damn. We have another 20-30 years of potential EC upsets before the demographics make a conservative victory impossible.
You have been watching the rubber stamping of his cabinet, yes? To use any phrase other than special interest, or conservative leadership's wet-dream to define any one of his selections would be a flat out misdirection if it contained any truth at all.
Back in November there was a poll of over 100, million people you seem exceptionally willing to discount it.
I... don't know where to start.
That poll had a pretty clear winner. It wasn't trump.
He may have won the election as a whole based upon America's goofy slavery-era electoral system, but he certainly didn't win any poll.
Why do people like you say such stupid shit? Are you truly so intellectually weak, or just highly manipulative? I wish I knew you in person, so I could really gauge your dysfunction.
Then there was that poll about whether or not the UK should remain in the EU
What the fuck does this have to do with anything? You think Brexiters are pro-Trump?
Brexit still has plurality support in polls in Britain, today.
You know who doesn't? Donald Trump. Let's see what they say...
Donald Trump will be a good president: 15%
Donald Trump will be a bad president: 53%
Donald Trump as president makes the world a safer place: 10%
Donald Trump as president makes the world a more dangerous place: 66%
Donald Trump's victory is a welcome disruption from 'politics as usual': 26%
Donald Trump's victory sets a dangerous precedent for future elections: 58%
Can you just tell me why you're so full of shit? Did your parents teach you nothing of integrity? Have you bullshit your entire way through life?
Sorry man, Israel has deserved that vote result for a long time. We stood alone in shielding them from it, and not because we're noble creatures, but because you second-coming fuckwits have a hard-on for the Jews legitimately possessing Jerusalem, even though the Arabs have far more claim to it, so your fucked up end-times prophecy can come true.
You don't hate Jews because you think the Israeli regime is totally fucked up. You don't have to support their fucking illegal settlement building in order to support them and their right to exist.
One of Obama's last acts was to *finally* earn an iota of respect back from the rest of the world by acknowledging that the Israelis are breaking the fucking UN mandate, and hence international law, after decades of preventing that declaration from coming to a vote.
Ah yes, if you're not with them, no matter how atrocious their behavior, you're for their extermination.
Seriously, go jump in a fucking wood chipper.
And furthermore, if not for the US, the UNSC would have voted to go spank their asses back behind the line, Yugoslavia style, a long time ago.
Wait, what?
You know what happened after Britain withdrew from their mandate, right?
Now I'm not saying it wasn't a 2-sided fight... it was. But the victors of that fight ethnically cleansed an entire population of people under the auspice that they weren't even a fucking people.
That fucking *happened*. Quit trying to rewrite history to justify your horse-shit narrative.
From Wikipedia /a;
"The charter states that "our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious" and calls for the eventual creation of an Islamic state in Palestine, in place of Israel and the Palestinian Territories"
" It emphasizes the importance of jihad, stating in article 13, "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad."
"The charter also states that Hamas is humanistic, and tolerant of other religions as long as they "stop disputing the sovereignty of Islam in this region".[6] The Charter adds that "renouncing any part of Palestine means renouncing part of the religion" of Islam" - to be fair, this IS Islam.
"In 2010 Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal stated that the Charter is "a piece of history and no longer relevant, but cannot be changed for internal reasons."[14] Hamas has moved away from its charter since it decided to run candidates for office." - which could lead us to question if anything Hamas stated can be reliable.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
For a goofy slavery era system it worked pretty damn well.
It prevented one state from throwing the election with corrupt voting exactly as designed.
Or do you think illegal aliens should get a vote ?
Please cite where there is one - oh, and books of fiction don't count. Please cite scientifically reproducible REAL evidence. Right, you don't have any.
You are too stupid to realize that is all a pack lies. Yes, the universe is a cold depressing place, it is not some ideology, it is the REAL world. Even monkeys don't believe your drivel. May you and your cave dwelling children forever have their heads up their asses.
Also, you should actually watch the videos where he actually fails to say anything about any race, religion or ethnicity.
Reading is fundamental. He said nothing bad about any group except illegal aliens, which decided to break our laws and overstay visas or illegally cross our borders.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
And, by the way, the biggest delusion anyone has is that they know the absolute truth and are totally right in any situation, on any social topic.
"There is most probably no such thing as god" does not quite deliver the message it should :P
You act as if you have never heard any dissenting opinions against your religions. At least comparisons of editors or programming languages can be made using solid facts and reproducible tests. Might want to look at your own dismissive attitude.
Just like his radical feminist counterparts..
It prevented one state from throwing the election with corrupt voting exactly as designed.
That wasn't what it was designed to do. You lie when you say that. Do you even care?
The system was designed so that the 3/5ths Compromise could be integrated into presidential elections. This was done because a vast majority of American economic power was in states that had comparatively tiny voting populations. James Madison said exactly as much at the Philadelphia Constitutional Convention in 1788.
Or do you think illegal aliens should get a vote ?
You can claim that states with politics different than yours are letting illegals vote, and I can claim that states with politics different than mine disenfranchise millions of legal voters by closing down polling locations based on voting demographics. The difference between these 2 claims, is I can at least back mine up with some evidence.
I'm very sympathetic to Israel's defense issues. However, the fact that they are breaching multiple Geneva Conventions in occupied territory in violation of UNSC orders that would have gotten states full of people we had much less sympathy for invaded by a multinational military force gives them the status of an occupying oppressor, and lends credibility to those fighting them. Which sucks, because I *don't* think the people fighting them are good people, either. The UNSC needs to step in, spank the Israeli regime, spank Hamas, enforce the borders, and stick to the plan. Neither side is acting in truly good faith, neither side is being entirely flexible, but the Israelis are flouting international law like they're bigger than it. Like they weren't granted that land by a UN mandate. Like they didn't illegal seize land that was granted to another group of people under that same mandate. The little racist shits in the Knesset need to be knocked out of power in the manner that all racially cleansing bastards in the past have been. The territorial integrity of Israel and the right to self-determination and security of the Israelis within their defined borders needs also be protected. The Israelis have shown they're not grown up enough to handle the job.
that wasn't what it was designed to do. You lie when you say that. Do you even care?
I care that the education system failed you. That is specifically what the system was designed to do and the state in question was Virginia
I can claim that states with politics different than mine disenfranchise millions of legal voters by closing down polling locations based on voting demographics
That would be how the DNC gave Hillary the nomination ? Projecting your sins onto others I see.
..or maybe it was hillary's (and the democrat party line) using attributes like race and sex to justify her candidacy (eg: her woman card campaign/choosing 'black lives' over 'all lives') while claiming to fight against that behavior that drove people AWAY from her and towards the only viable alternative.
Z^1
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
The 'wolves' in the current world are non-working parasites, voting themselves benes.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
> Nazi America government interring Japanese Americans ring a bell?
Not really, I don't recall anything specific about Japanese Americans being buried...
You realize that some of them died due to the conditions they were illegally (unconstitutionally) held under.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
You did not point out what you see as an error Crash.
Disappointing. All you have is spamming and stock phrases. Why bother to comment at all?
It's very likely I've read more about that than you ever had before you were born, especially based on your criticism without foundation. My Scout leader was in the British Royal Navy at Suez so I've been interested in that issue for a very long time.
Admit it - you are just attempting to play the man instead of the ball just like last time are you not? The actual issue does not appear to matter to you, just someone to shout at.
Finally someone who will get at the history of the region instead of offering up nonsense statistics.
I see no need for Israelis to get off the land before the Palestinians declare they are a state any more than the Tories had to leave the United States or indeed the British forces in general before the United States declared itself independent of Britain. In fact, the legitimacy of the United States' claim to evict the British troops was strengthened by their decision to declare themselves independent.
Admit it - you are just attempting to play the man instead of the ball just like last time are you not? The actual issue does not appear to matter to you, just someone to shout at.
You did not point out what you see as an error Crash.
Disappointing. All you have is spamming and stock phrases. Why bother to comment at all?
Project much ?
Since you have been pretty forthcoming in another post about what you think happened, what is your play by play as to what happened. All I understand is that Israel was attacked and in a matter of weeks won and put in measures to make sure they were never attacked again.
Project? You were the spam boy Crash.
It's extremely telling that you wrote "google it" instead of suggesting I talk to someone who is actually from Israel, which it the way I formed my opinion in the first place. A bot may as well have just picked "google it" from a short list of stock phrases.
Perhaps instead of trivilizing this topic you apply your failures of the Turing Test to things that are less important.
So you're demanding that Palestinains get to demolish the homes of terrorist IDF personnel who murder and bomb Palestinians? You're demanding that Palestinians have the right to bomb anyone who looks like he might be an Israeli police officer on the grounds that he is a "militant"?
If zionists were held to zionist reasoning, Israel would have ceased to exist by 1950.
America is resilient;
Republic or Democratic President doesn't make much difference;
Then you're speaking on a subject on which you lack the barest, remedial knowledge.
You want to play grammar zionist nazi you might not want to leave a few words out of a sentence in the same post:
Pedant fail.
You were saying?
Germany isn't a race either, yet people still speak of Germans. Idiot.
Ah, another winger who thinks your lack of ability to go on oppressing people means you yourself are oppressed. Sorry you were dropped on the head as a child - early and often.
What part of "it could have been the Freemasons and the results would have been the same" are you having a hard time understanding? It has nothing nothing NOTHING to do with Israelis being Jews, and everything to do with them being immigrant racist imperialists. If you are a Palestinian and your family has farmed that olive garden since Charlemagne, you may be forced off your land by an immigrant who has a single Jewish grandparent from New Jersey, given free travel & a stipend plus other incentives to move to the country.
Israel created Hamas to undermine Fatah, take it up with them. And all the racist idiots prattling on about the Hamas Charter (which again was created by Israel) need to read the Likud Charter, which claims all the land to Jordan River. Land which is entirely Palestinian land under international law - including Jerusalem and the Right of Return.
I care that the education system failed you. That is specifically what the system was designed to do and the state in question was Virginia
"There was one difficulty however of a serious nature attending an immediate choice by the people. The right of suffrage was much more diffusive in the Northern than the Southern States; and the latter could have no influence in the election on the score of the Negroes. The substitution of electors obviated this difficulty and seemed on the whole to be liable to fewest objections." - July 19th, 1788 Philadelphia Constitutional Convention. James Madison's proposal for the creation of the elector system that ended up being accepted by the delegates.
Forgive my failed education, but why would Virginia worry about any state throwing the election, when the proposed rule gave them the largest collection of electoral votes in the union, in spite of having one of the smaller voting populations? You'll notice he clearly stated the reason for electors, and it wasn't about some state throwing the election.
You're inventing history. You're full of shit, disingenuous, and a piece of shit.
That would be how the DNC gave Hillary the nomination ? Projecting your sins onto others I see.
The DNC gave the nomination to the winner of the primaries and caucuses. Sure, the process was biased in her favor, but the raw vote spoke for itself as well. Again, you're a lying sack of shit, inventing history to spin your narrative. Alternative Facts? Fuck off, troll.
Project? You were the spam boy Crash.
Oh I see now, this you trying to get payback. Tsk Tsk
It's extremely telling that you wrote "google it" instead of suggesting I talk to someone who is actually from Israel,
Large Israeli population in Australia ? Now I am going to have to suggest you have google sampling methods and bias.
Perhaps instead of trivilizing this topic you apply your failures of the Turing Test to things that are less important.
Says the guy who talked to someone from Israel. Tell me is all your expertise of this quality ?
Forgive my failed education, but why would Virginia worry about any state throwing the election, when the proposed rule gave them the largest collection of electoral votes in the union, in spite of having one of the smaller voting populations? You'll notice he clearly stated the reason for electors, and it wasn't about some state throwing the election.
".The right of suffrage was much more diffusive in the Northern than the Southern States"
It's amazing you go and find the passage that explains the situation and then fail to comprehend what is being said because you have absolutely no knowledge of American history.. What's more you were even pointed at the exact cause and were unable to ask the question why it would be
Amazing.
The DNC gave the nomination to the winner of the primaries and caucuses. Sure, the process was biased in her favor
Here let me fix that for you
Liberal democrats cheat only for the greater, their shit doesn't stink
I would accuse of lying but from what I see you just don't have the intelligence to understand you're wrong. I guess a lifetime of participation prizes will do that to someone.
So everything is about you spamboy? If was so shallow as to try payback would it have been a mild comment on the topic that did not put you in any sort of bad light or even disagree with you?
Reality versus a google lookup? I prefer the former spamboy.
So everything is about you spamboy? If was so shallow as to try payback would it have been a mild comment on the topic that did not put you in any sort of bad light or even disagree with you?
Reality versus a google lookup? I prefer the former spamboy.
That's real good stuff you got there. Real persuasive, strikes home it does. I particularly enjoy the way you have marshaled facts in defense of your argument and then fleshed it out with chains of unassailable logic.
It's amazing you go and find the passage that explains the situation and then fail to comprehend what is being said because you have absolutely no knowledge of American history.. What's more you were even pointed at the exact cause and were unable to ask the question why it would be
What the fuck are you talking about?
Did you conveniently skip the "and the latter could have no influence in the election on the score of the Negroes"?
Where does corrupt votes from other states come in? The clear intent of the elector system was to give slave-holders electoral power for their slave holdings because they had less free-voting power than the northern states.
You clearly agree that's what he's saying, if I'm to take your most recent rant at face value, so now I ask,
It prevented one state from throwing the election with corrupt voting exactly as designed.
Where did you get that from the above quote?
"Amazing"
Indeed.
Here let me fix that for you
Liberal democrats cheat only for the greater, their shit doesn't stink
You understand you just constructed a strawman, correct? You know damn well I never implied anything about the correctness of what the DNC did, only pointed out the non-factual nature of your claim. Of course you do. You're a fucking tool. Go burn some crosses, asshat.
Where does corrupt votes from other states come in? The clear intent of the elector system was to give slave-holders electoral power for their slave holdings because they had less free-voting power than the northern states.
https://web.viu.ca/davies/h320...
That's the population of the colonies. Now if you can pull your head out your rear you might notice Virginia had over 20% of the nations population by itself. When he was talking about states with diffuse populations he wasn't talking about the economically dominant and population dominant states like Virginia.
Speaking of Virginia not only was it the largest, and wealthiest state at the time, it also proposed the form of of the representative government, and the electoral college. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.... Gee if you knew a little history you might have figured out why I picked Virginia specifically.
You know damn well I never implied anything about the correctness of what the DNC did
Sure you didn't
The DNC gave the nomination to the winner of the primaries and caucuses. Sure, the process was biased in her favor, but the raw vote spoke for itself as well.
I mean hell all those people that didn't get to vote in primaries don't matter. The DNC sabotaging their own candidate completely irrelevant.. Nope nope those polls were accurate and unbiased.
Ironic since you just posted something with zero content. Just give it up spam boy if you are unable to address the topic.
Ironic since you just posted something with zero content. Just give it up spam boy if you are unable to address the topic.
::Looks up:: You are complaining about no content personal attacks ? What is this for you the 6th or 7th in a row ? Was it your obvious lack of knowledge of the topic that stopped you talking about it ? Come on why don't you try and salvage your expertise on Israel again. I am sure the world wants to know more about your scout master, or your valiant outreach to the Australian Israeli community.
Anyway I have had enough fun and you have taken this far too far offtopic and far to away from the site's rules. Since I have a modicum of politeness, unless you can actually say something relating to Trump's inauguration or his supposed to antisemitism, I'll leave this where it is. Have fun with the last word I am sure you will come up with something as humorous as the rest of your posts.
From your childish behaviour I would guess that he died thirty years before you were born.
From your spamming earlier full of utterly vile insults - no you clearly do not.
You did more than that in parallel when you decided to target me earlier.
That's a rather big stretch for determining largest country. Yeah, the US would have to throw out Alaska, Texas, most of the Midwest and half of Dixie... who would want to live in those places?
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
Marry me.
So the Democrats were so happy to work with the Republicans during the Bush years... They played so nice, and showed him much respect. And then when Obama got elected, those evil Republicans didn't treat the Democrats the same way - and are responsible for divided government.
That's what you're trying to sell? Really? How stupid do you think people are?
Murphy was an optimist
That's the population of the colonies. Now if you can pull your head out your rear you might notice Virginia had over 20% of the nations population by itself. When he was talking about states with diffuse populations he wasn't talking about the economically dominant and population dominant states like Virginia.
Those are the raw populations, not the voting populations. But you knew that, didn't you.
Speaking of Virginia not only was it the largest, and wealthiest state at the time, it also proposed the form of of the representative government, and the electoral college. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]. Gee if you knew a little history you might have figured out why I picked Virginia specifically.
It was the largest in terms of slave holding population, and white population, and one of the smallest in franchised population. But again, you knew that.
I'm well aware what the Virginia Plan is, why it was made, and how it has nothing to do with presidential elections. But again, *you knew that*.
The elector system was a system devised to graft the 3/5ths Compromise and the Virginia plan, and the resulting Connecticut Compromise into the election of the executive, which had absolutely *nothing* to do with preventing a large state from having undo influence in the election, but rather, the exact opposite. Its intention was to make sure that a state with a small voting population could have disproportionate sway in national politics, and it was able to be pushed through due to the economic power those states had. By your own links, you are in fact, full of shit.
I quote once more for humor,
It prevented one state from throwing the election with corrupt voting exactly as designed.
[citation needed]
Your move, asshole.
I live in the county that won PA. We're the only county that removing changes the outcome.
Guess who came thru our area Trump. Guess who did not....Hillary.
I mean hell all those people that didn't get to vote in primaries don't matter. The DNC sabotaging their own candidate completely irrelevant.. Nope nope those polls were accurate and unbiased.
Irrelevant doesn't mean right. Are you even capable of making a rational argument, or do you seek only to succeed by reframing the others argument as something it was not?
It's so easy to walk you into a stupid argument. If you tried to exercise a little consistency, you'd do a lot better at this.
Let's recap-
You say the EC was created to prevent corrupt states from dominating an election. You then prove with your own links that it was not.
You attempt to frame my argument as an argument for illegals voting, which it clearly was not, to which I retort, that I can also claim that other states disenfranchised voters, states that gave their win to Trump.
You then say I endorse said practice due to the unsubstantiated claim that the DNC partook in the same affair (I don't really care if it did. If it did, it was wrong, but being it's a vote within a political party, it has 0 constitutional protection)
What you've done, in execution if not by intent, is attempted to legitimize the electoral win of Donald Trump by acknowledging that other states may have engaged in corrupt practices to elect him. But disenfranchising legal voters is apparently preferential to enfranchising illegal voters, by your argument. Perhaps a discussion for another day. You have literally done what you accused me of doing. Apparently it's your shit that doesn't stink.
I was beginning to think you were more intelligent than I gave you credit for, but you're not. You're just another Trumpian asshat trying to justify the loophole that he sailed into office on by reframing its purpose.
We're all waiting for you to go ahead and back up your fantasy with a touch of fact, alternative or otherwise. Right now you're just presenting us with inconsistent logic and dipshittery.
You do realize that's *exactly* how stereotypes form, right?
It's also exactly why special interest is so...interesting these days. The hysterical cries (or actions) of a few utterly dominate the perspective that everyone forms. People are more scared of terrorists than crossing the street.
For better or worse, that's largely how society seems to operate these days.
You can get rich if you own a politician, but you have to be rich to buy one in the first place.
Neither candidate should have been in *politics*, much less the primaries, much less the general election.
We have a pretty good voting system. There are some other options but each has it's pros and cons. None has a clear advantage over the other in the large scale.
What we NEED is to separate corporate (and/or wealthy .1%-ers, but they're largely the same thing) interests from political decisions. Or at least not let them - quite literally in some cases - write our laws for us.
You can get rich if you own a politician, but you have to be rich to buy one in the first place.
Making fun of someone is your biggest concern...oh, sorry, HOW he makes fun of someone is your biggest concern.
Perspective folks...
You can get rich if you own a politician, but you have to be rich to buy one in the first place.
We have a pretty good voting system. There are some other options but each has it's pros and cons. None has a clear advantage over the other in the large scale.
This is wrong.
There are clear advantages of other voting systems over FPTP/plurality. Several criteria have been produced to compare voting systems (example comparisons here). Where criteria focus on specific (often worst-case) scenarios, voting simulations can help see the bigger picture. It can be shown that plurality necessarily devolves into a two-party system.
It is clear that plurality is a terrible system, even if there is no unanimous concensus on which replacement is the best.
All my liberal friends think I'm a conservative, all my conservative friends think I'm a liberal.
Obama had 85% approval. Trump doesn't have half of that.
...because the Conservatives didn't throw a hissy fit when Obama won. They saw that it was important to get behind the President and move forward as a nation.
He mocked a reporter, not the disability of the reporter. I thought it was pretty obvious. Anyway, who gives a shit? Seriously, this is the best complaint you can come up with? If it is, then life in the US must be pretty sweet.
Since when did we start polling the rest of the world on who our leaders should be? I for one do not give a fuck what the rest of the world believes.
no, i've got plenty of other complaints too, this was just the one that the great-great-grandparent brought up.
It was the largest in terms of slave holding population, and white population, and one of the smallest in franchised population. But again, you knew that.
There aren't enough facepalms in the world. Seeing as you forgot what your were replying to.
For a goofy slavery era system it worked pretty damn well.
It prevented one state from throwing the election with corrupt voting exactly as designed.
Going further on
I'm well aware what the Virginia Plan is, why it was made, and how it has nothing to do with presidential elections. But again, *you knew that*.
Nope you aren't
The Constitutional Convention in 1787 used the Virginia Plan as the basis for discussions, as the Virginia delegation had proposed it first. The Virginia Plan called for the Congress to elect the president.[15] Delegates from a majority of states agreed to this mode of election.[16] However, a committee formed to work out various details including the mode of election of the president, recommended instead the election be by a group of people apportioned among the states in the same numbers as their representatives in Congress (the formula for which had been resolved in lengthy debates resulting in the Connecticut Compromise and Three-Fifths Compromise), but chosen by each state "in such manner as its Legislature may direct." Committee member Gouverneur Morris explained the reasons for the change; among others, there were fears of "intrigue" if the president were chosen by a small group of men who met together regularly, as well as concerns for the independence of the president if he was elected by the Congress.[17]
Irrelevant doesn't mean right.
Because excluding people from voting against Hillary renders the poll valid.
Are you even capable of making a rational argument,
Your history is wrong, your reasoning is faulty and all you have is name calling. With opposition like you no wonder Trump won.
What race did he spout off about? Was it black people, white people or asians?
Learn the meaning of words, and you don't look so foolish. Also, you should actually watch the videos where he actually fails to say anything about any race, religion or ethnicity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
This gets my vote for most inaccurate statement in a wikipedia article (and I'm sure there are plenty to choose from):
"In the United States, views of race that see racial groups as defined genetically are common in the biological sciences although controversial"
While it may be true that "views of race that see racial groups as defined genetically are common" among lay people and the uneducated, I would bet that you would have a hard time finding actual biologists with this view, and an even harder time finding geneticists. From a genetic perspective, the concept of race is meaningless.
Ideology: A tool used primarily to avoid the bother of thinking.
What are they?
well i've got this rash on my leg, and my toenails are way too thick
Yes, the sign of true wisdom is to never listen to what anyone else says.
If you don't agree with it, than please redefine it. I can only work in the definitions I am given. Race is a characteristic used for census forms, it is a clear word. Hispanic is a culture, not a race, as there are black hispanics (eg Dominicans), white hispanics (like Zimmerman), and native american hispanics (what many people think of as hispanics), so they are not a unified race, but a culture that originates in Europe, therefore is included in Anglo Saxon. As for biologists, they would point out that we are all one race, so I am not sure how that effects someone misusing the word racist, as what, are they racist against dogs or monkeys?
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
You do realize that in Israel, Muslims citizens have full rights, and there is no "apartheid". The only division are the Palestinians who kill anyone that even sides with Jews or Israel. There are no Jews in Palestine.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
There are plenty of Jews in Palestine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
I ignore Anonymous Coward posts. If you want to discuss something, that's awesome. Log in.
You have literally proven my point. ;)
We thank you
Your history is wrong, your reasoning is faulty and all you have is name calling. With opposition like you no wonder Trump won.
Sorry, it's not. You've proven that much with the information you've posted. You're just too fucking dim-witted to see it.
And no, chief. Fuckwits like you are why Trump won. All the name-calling in the world won't make an intelligent person vote for a demagogue whipping up a mob, only straight up fucking stupidity can do that.
I'm of course not painting everyone who voted for him with that brush, but the big ugly center of that population distribution bell curve- yes. Stupid fucking people. You know it, I know it, the world knows it. THAT is why he won. Oh, right- and because of that messed up electoral system that allows those people to have a slight boost to their representation so that some state a couple hundred years ago could get electoral clout for its non-voting population.
One last time, for one more fucking laugh-
It prevented one state from throwing the election with corrupt voting exactly as designed.
My calling the spade attach to a keyboard that which it is doesn't change the fact that you still couldn't cite a single piece of evidence to support your... "Alternative" interpretation of the US electoral system.
Q: Why does the U.S. have an Electoral College?
A: The framers of the Constitution didn’t trust direct democracy.
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/...
Seriously whatever crackerjack box your education came from get a refund, if your still in school complain. Speaking of that
You really should stop talking because the more you do the more stupid comes out speaking of which
All the name-calling in the world won't make an intelligent person vote for a demagogue whipping up a mob, only straight up fucking stupidity can do that.
I was able to come up with half a dozen Nobel prize winners without even trying. Just to put that in perspective that's people who are all to the right of you, on the bell curve . Do you even try to think or does that blood soaked lard between your ears only work in play back mode ?
My calling the spade attach to a keyboard that which it is doesn't change the fact that you still couldn't cite a single piece of evidence to support your... "Alternative" interpretation of the US electoral system.
If you work at it you may yet achieve literacy.
You have literally proven my point. ;)
We thank you
If your proposition was that you are illiterate or just poorly educated then that is indeed a true statement.
hypocrites.
I distinctly recall near the end of the election during one of the debates where the question was basically "If the other person wins, will you accept it?"
Clinton said "Yes of course". Trump said "I'll wait to see the outcome".
After which all democrats the media etc... lost their minds.
As it turns out, perhaps he was just being more honest, as it sure seems like an awful lot of democrats don't really accept the outcome to me.
As for the protests, that's great, your rights and everything. It aways makes me wonder just how many of those people actually bothered to vote. Perhaps they should tie your right to protest to your obligation/duty to vote. I've always maintained that if you don't vote you waive your right to bitch and complain after the fact.
With regards to your specific reply, I think you sound kind of delusional to the point where a tailored response is not worth the effort. However, I recently composed the following somewhat applicable passage for another venue, so I'm including it below. My only direct response to your comment is that my first thought was "The manufacturing jobs are NOT coming back and it doesn't much matter (from a supply chain perspective) which country the newest manufacturing robots are located in." Now here's the imported response:
Some deep thinkers want to encourage other people to think more deeply. However, there are also deep thinkers who prefer other people to think less deeply, the better to manipulate and take advantage of those people.
The worst (and most dangerous) case is people who are shallow thinkers, but who think they are deep thinkers, and #PresidentTweety is one of those people. Trump is not at war with the media. He is at war with reality. Trump wants to create belief in a straw-man fake reality of horror and collapse so he can then claim improvements by tweaking the fake beliefs back towards reality.
At least Duterte killed (alleged) evildoers and Mussolini made the trains run on time! That's not the reality of America. (Well, actually the American trains aren't so reliable, but Trump's supporters in flyover country are the least likely to use trains.)
My favorite sig should make it obvious, but I'm on the side of more deep thinking. You have to think deeply to understand your free choices in a meaningful way and to understand the constraints and their sources. (That's why "freedom of speech" is so confusing to many people, because the "speech" may be opinions or lies just as freely as it may be true.)
So far my best effort at a constructive "solution" is the design of the deep-thinking cap, but it's yet another "morally neutral" tool. While I think I would use the cap to support more deep thinking, maybe I would just use it to sleep a lot. Some people might use it to listen to more loud and mindless music while ignoring other people, even though the cap could be used as a better communication device, too.
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#1 Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice{5} (Beer^4 | Speech | Trade)
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
Spreading your perverted fantasies around a bit these days, eh?
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Are you a willfully ignorant racist or a sophist of Biblical proportions? Palestinians who aren't Israeli citizens have no right to vote, are denied access to Jewish-only roads throughout the occupied territories, have their land stolen without notice, and are subjected to a brutal blockade where the Israeli government openly speaks of collective punishment and putting the Palestinians "on a diet" - i.e. starve them just a little bit.
A blockade, by the way, was Israel's justification for starting the 1967 war, after their lies that they were attacked first fell apart. So by Israeli logic, Palestinian attacks in response to the blockade of the Gaza Strip are completely justified.
That's exactly what happened and I proved it to you. Do you believe that the United States was created because native americans decided to start a war with the native white population and the whites won? The level of willful ignorance is the same.
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Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.