while in London JA has offered to be interrogated/questioned by Swedish police over internet or in person if Sweden would send a policeman to the UK. Sweden has rejected both offers on for me unclear grounds, most of which seem to be based on the fact that a Swedish policeman visiting the UK would not be able to apply the pressure of law on JA like he could in Sweden.
Also the fact that that Sweden has done just that this dozens of times since 2011 (interviewed suspects abroad). Add to that Assange's promise to return to Sweden if they promised not to hand him over to the United States - as they've done to other people who were promptly tortured. Assange haters like to dismiss that as an empty promise - but if it were made then Ecuador would no longer have a reason to grant him asylum.
It's almost like Sweden could let this only be about alleged rape charges, if they wanted to. They don't want to.
Yeah. You can. Well, someone might have had a pistol in a leg holster, but 1) that does jack shit to justify murdering them 2) it's their country that was being illegally occupied in an illegal war of aggression.
What kind of asshole do you have to be to lie about that?
That includes National Pentagon Radio, which (gasp) is funded by the government. Or just ask Zombie Ed Shultz, as it wasn't the head of RT that called him up minutes before he was going to cover Bernie Sander's announcement that he was going to run for president in 2016 and ordered him to cover some shit irrelevant story from Tennessee instead.
Look, Russiagaters may have been born yesterday from the idiot tree, hitting every branch on the way down, but a former KGB man was not. Both the Democratic and Republican parties have hated Russia for over a hundred years now, and Putin is well aware of the fact that Trump is more of a moron than George W. Bush was. Which means that Trump would be brining in anti-Russian neocons left over from the Reagan Administration, same as Dubbya did.
So your entire premise is invalid before it begins.
and started one sided "leaks" in order to sway the elections to the candidate most likely to abuse human rights
You mean Hillary Clinton? It was Hillary that drove the USG to repeat it's "mistake" with Iraq in Libya and Syria, overthrew two democracies and tried damned hard for a third (Ukraine, Honduras & Venezuela). Trump is going to have to work long and hard just to catch up to Hillary's record, much less surpass her.
He's also apparently a likely rapist.
Apparently you're a gullible fool who's fallen for transparent western propaganda. Given the fact that the women in the "case" went to the state to ask for an STD test, not to press charges, that Assange was cleared to leave Sweden by prosecutors, that Sweden has refused to interview Assange abroad (which they've done with dozens of other suspects since 2011), and most importantly refused to promise Assange that they wouldn't hand him over to the U.S.
But more to the point, why would a "Putin Puppet" leak hundreds of thousands of documents on Russia, including details of Russia's own domestic spying apparatus a la NSA wiretapping of American citizens.
He wasn't leaking the emails to get the truth out, he was doing it at the behest of a foreign power to sway elections evidently and concealed that fact.
The only evidence showing Wiikileaks acting at the behest of Russia - after publishing hundreds of thousands of documents on Russia and Russia's domestic surveillance apparatus after the 2016 election - is the crap between your ears.
The American war on Vietnam was an utterly unjustifiable series of war crimes in defense of racist colonialism. The only heroes there were the Viet Cong who drove foreign invaders from their country, along with the puppet government they set up.
However, the last group of people who get to point those facts out are war criminals from the Bush Administration, who lied their way into another unjustifiable invasion while committing massive amounts of war crimes: murder, torture, rape and kidnapping of civilians.
Why do you write "you Americans" and then promptly vomit up a bunch of Hillbot talking points? The DNC's own charter mandates neutrality in primary elections, a mandate they fragrantly violated when they blatantly rigged a primary election for president. And not only are primaries part and parcel of the election, dumbass, they are as often as not far more important than the general election vote. Primary voters in 2016 could have chosen someone other than a racist, corrupt AF, warmongering, loudmouthed, incompetent, pathological liar. And the other party could have chosen someone other than Trump to represent them as well.
No doubt that is he is rapist and that is why Sweden wanted him.
No doubt he's a rapist - despite the fact that the women involved went to the state not t press charges, but to ask for an STD test? Despite the fact he was cleared by prosecutors to leave the country? Despite the fact that Sweden has refused to interview Assange abroad, as they'e done to dozens of suspects since Assange left the country? Despite the fact that Assange has offered to return to Sweden if the government promises not to hand him over to the United States? Even if you're drinking the Hatorade on Assange and think that offer was a lie, it would mean Ecuador would no longer have a reason to grant him asylum.
So the only thing "not in doubt" here is the fact you've fallen for CIA-sponsored character assassination.
He was a hero when he leaked stuff that was beneficial to the left.
Democrats not only aren't left, they hate it more than Republicans do. Case in point: how they still whine about Nader in the 2000 election but NEVER talk about the hundreds of thousands of Florida Democrats who voted for Bush.
He's got an exaggerated sense of self appreciation
Then he would have taken the first real set of leaks and auctioned them off to an intelligence agency and retired to the Caymans, instead of angering said intelligence agencies - who have a penchant for kidnapping, murder and torture. Which means your line of "reasoning" is nothing more than ratfucking character assassination.
They revealed massive corruption and election rigging at the DNC. To deflect from this, Democrats followed the model used by the Bush Administration (packed with draft dodgers) accused John Kerry of cowardice. Her own campaign staff saw Uranium One as a huge liability for her, so they engaged in an epic bout of Swiftboating and projected Clinton's corruption with Russia and election meddling onto Trump.
Isn't it curious, then, that one party is actively trying to discredit or simply end the investigation?
Not when the probe has no justification for being, and is a grotesque perversion of our entire justice system. Needing probable suspicion for an investigation has been tossed out the window, but general warrants are brought back in after being banned for a few centuries, with the exception of the last bullshit partisan witch hunt - Ken Starr's obsession with the Clintons in the 90's. An obsession now mirrored in Russiagate Democrats, who have become exactly what they used to hate.
No such thing as popular vote in the United States.
There is, actually.
There is not. There is no popular contest for president in the United States, so there is no popular vote. It should be that way, but until the elitist Electoral College is disbanded, we are stuck with a system where candidates campaign in a handful of "battleground" states. Not across the country, so we're back to cross country vote totals being a meaningless statistic.
Trump didn't bother to campaign in New York and California - where Hillary's margin of "victory" comes from - because he knew he wouldn't win either state. Instead, he went to the Rust Belt - where Hillary didn't bother to campaign - to ask people for their vote.
OK, that's a complete non-sequitor from the previous statement, but OK, sure.
If by "non-sequitur" you mean "gosh, that means the popular vote really is a meaningless number", then yes.
The Electoral College is literally the only metric we have.
FTFY. With the EC, small states don't matter. Large states don't matter. Neither blue nor red states matter. Only "battleground" states matter, and candidates campaign accordingly. Unless you are as incompetent as Hillary Clinton, and spend all your time trying to run up your vote totals in two coastal states while flatly ignoring all the ones between Pennsylvania and Iowa.
Five convictions so far. And counting. Not so incompetent.
Convictions that have nothing to do with Russia or Trump - but you knew this already. And you also dodged the fact that Mueller has never had the FBI examine the DNC servers. That the moment it became bloody obvious that the emperor had no clothes.
If you really thought Mueller was incompetent, you wouldn't be so keen on seeing him fired and the investigation closed. Tick tock.
There's as much justification for this investigation as if the FBI suspected Trump of plotting the attack on Pearl Harbor. This whole operation is nothing but a giant case of Swiftboating from butthurt Hillbots - Hillary's own campaign workers worried that Uranium One would be her biggest vulnerability - and deflection from who actually rigged an election in 2016.
Blind partisan tribalists reaaaaaaally need to get over this habit of finding deranged reasons to try and deny presidents of the opposing party any legitimacy. In the 90's, Republicans lost their freaking minds accusing Hillary of being a lesbian communist who had scores of people murdered as a part of the Clinton drug cartel in Arkansas. And then lost their damn minds again at the thought of a Kenyan-Muslim being president of the USA. They were complete whackjobs - but they had just as much evidence that you Russiagaters do of any collusion between Russia and Trump. Particularly when Trump has been WAY more confrontational with Russia than Obama ever was.
Dumping lead into the water is harmful. Offering an $8 / phone service for seniors who don't have or want a smartphone isn't harmful. Operating a community wireless mesh network isn't harmful.
Neither of which would be at all hindered by network neutrality rules.
They don't have a strong interest in preventing a community network from having rules about fair use of the limited bandwidth available.
Network neutrality is about preventing favoritism, not quality of service. Nothing stops that tiny ISP serving hamlets in the Rockies from using QOS to prevent users from having their VOIP calls dropped.
You can play the stubborn jackass card but that doesn't actually work. Mueller has shit, and that's a fact you Russiagaters will just have to deal with.
Yeah, the Chem Trailers and Antivaxxers are also in denial of how far they've planted their heads up their own conspiracy theories, too.
the slow public unraveling of Putin's plots
The plot where Putin was so diabolically clever that he knew years in advance that a bankrupt political novice game show host could be president, that Hillary wouldn't bother to campaign in the states between Pennsylvania and Iowa (and almost lost Minnesota) - yet at the same time such a fucking idiot that he didn't anticipate any blowback. And that a former KGB man would be so unbelievably stupid as to collude with someone as dumb as Trump, which means the FBI/CIA/NSA would know, as would President Elect Hillary as the race was hers to lose right up until the end. And that he would counter $9 billion in corporate propaganda (with $1.2 billion just from Hillary) with....a few thousand dollars for Facebook and Twitter memes. And all to interfere in a race where both parties are virulently anti-Russian and have been for over a hundred years.
Like I said the first time, this wouldn't even pass as the plot to a shitty 80's action movie.
Or maybe the best way could have been the free market with no subsidies for anyone?
That cult is rarely the best solution for anything. The "free market" would happily see Texans go on using one ton pickups as passenger vehicles, carrying the last rhino horns to market, while the world burns from climate change.
You mean where I point out you're the last village idiot insisting the Emperor is wearing the finest livery when it's obvious to everyone that he's wearing nothing but boxers? Someday you'll have the same response to Russiagate that you'll have when your grandkids ask you if you were one of those people running around smearing Iraq war skeptics as Saddam Lovers back in 2003. "Uh, no junior, I always knew Bush and Cheney were lying to us. I totally wasn't a gullible fool and an total asshole to anyone who actually knew better. Promise!"
And Cheney actually went through the trouble of presenting evidence. Fake or bullshit evidence, but evidence nonetheless. Who knew he could have skipped all that work and just made assertions without a shred of evidence, and people like you would just eat that shit up. With a spoon. Shit handed to you from the very same liars.
As well they should have been. Giving ignorant mobs the ability to dictate government policy is a recipe for disaster
That's just more elitist bullshit in defense of elitist bullshit. You could write an encyclopedia of encyclopedias of encyclopedias of all the fuck-ups in human history caused by elites. Religious wars between Catholics and Protestants? Elites. Slavery? Elites. Either of the World Wars? Colonialism? The US spending more than the rest of the world combined on war pork? Elites, elites, elites.
But go ahead and name one by fuck up by "the mob" that wasn't a directly backlash to elites fucking things up in the first place. French Terror? Wouldn't have happened without the aristocracy keeping boots on the necks of peasants for a thousand years. Cuban Revolution? Wouldn't have happened without colonialism and the US backing the brutal dictatorship of Batista.
The political system is designed the way it is in order to provide everyone with an opportunity to have some input
Not unless you were a white male who owned property. The Founding Pricks were happy enough to apply taxes to people who couldn't vote, though - taxation without representation.
None of which has anything to do with Trump or Russiagate, moran. Fifteen convictions came out of the Whitewater investigation - but nothing was ever found on the Clintons. It doesn't matter if Mueller finds out that Kellyanne Conway is the real Golden State Killer - if there's no collusion between Trump and Russia, his investigation was nothing but a perversion of the American justice system where investigators need probable suspicion and aren't supposed to have general warrants.
Cheney must be kicking himself these days. He went through all that trouble to present evidence that Saddam had WMD's and was involved in 911. The evidence was either complete crap or faked, but evidence was presented. Who knew he could have skipped all that work and gone straight to having FBI officials make statements without any evidence whatsoever, and people would eat that shit up.
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Also the fact that that Sweden has done just that this dozens of times since 2011 (interviewed suspects abroad). Add to that Assange's promise to return to Sweden if they promised not to hand him over to the United States - as they've done to other people who were promptly tortured. Assange haters like to dismiss that as an empty promise - but if it were made then Ecuador would no longer have a reason to grant him asylum.
It's almost like Sweden could let this only be about alleged rape charges, if they wanted to. They don't want to.
Yeah. You can. Well, someone might have had a pistol in a leg holster, but 1) that does jack shit to justify murdering them 2) it's their country that was being illegally occupied in an illegal war of aggression.
What kind of asshole do you have to be to lie about that?
That includes National Pentagon Radio, which (gasp) is funded by the government. Or just ask Zombie Ed Shultz, as it wasn't the head of RT that called him up minutes before he was going to cover Bernie Sander's announcement that he was going to run for president in 2016 and ordered him to cover some shit irrelevant story from Tennessee instead.
Refusing to Take Sides, NPR Takes Sides With Torture Deniers
Look, Russiagaters may have been born yesterday from the idiot tree, hitting every branch on the way down, but a former KGB man was not. Both the Democratic and Republican parties have hated Russia for over a hundred years now, and Putin is well aware of the fact that Trump is more of a moron than George W. Bush was. Which means that Trump would be brining in anti-Russian neocons left over from the Reagan Administration, same as Dubbya did.
So your entire premise is invalid before it begins.
You mean Hillary Clinton? It was Hillary that drove the USG to repeat it's "mistake" with Iraq in Libya and Syria, overthrew two democracies and tried damned hard for a third (Ukraine, Honduras & Venezuela). Trump is going to have to work long and hard just to catch up to Hillary's record, much less surpass her.
Apparently you're a gullible fool who's fallen for transparent western propaganda. Given the fact that the women in the "case" went to the state to ask for an STD test, not to press charges, that Assange was cleared to leave Sweden by prosecutors, that Sweden has refused to interview Assange abroad (which they've done with dozens of other suspects since 2011), and most importantly refused to promise Assange that they wouldn't hand him over to the U.S.
But more to the point, why would a "Putin Puppet" leak hundreds of thousands of documents on Russia, including details of Russia's own domestic spying apparatus a la NSA wiretapping of American citizens.
No reason but your willful dumbfuckery.
The only evidence showing Wiikileaks acting at the behest of Russia - after publishing hundreds of thousands of documents on Russia and Russia's domestic surveillance apparatus after the 2016 election - is the crap between your ears.
The American war on Vietnam was an utterly unjustifiable series of war crimes in defense of racist colonialism. The only heroes there were the Viet Cong who drove foreign invaders from their country, along with the puppet government they set up.
However, the last group of people who get to point those facts out are war criminals from the Bush Administration, who lied their way into another unjustifiable invasion while committing massive amounts of war crimes: murder, torture, rape and kidnapping of civilians.
Why do you write "you Americans" and then promptly vomit up a bunch of Hillbot talking points? The DNC's own charter mandates neutrality in primary elections, a mandate they fragrantly violated when they blatantly rigged a primary election for president. And not only are primaries part and parcel of the election, dumbass, they are as often as not far more important than the general election vote. Primary voters in 2016 could have chosen someone other than a racist, corrupt AF, warmongering, loudmouthed, incompetent, pathological liar. And the other party could have chosen someone other than Trump to represent them as well.
No doubt he's a rapist - despite the fact that the women involved went to the state not t press charges, but to ask for an STD test? Despite the fact he was cleared by prosecutors to leave the country? Despite the fact that Sweden has refused to interview Assange abroad, as they'e done to dozens of suspects since Assange left the country? Despite the fact that Assange has offered to return to Sweden if the government promises not to hand him over to the United States? Even if you're drinking the Hatorade on Assange and think that offer was a lie, it would mean Ecuador would no longer have a reason to grant him asylum.
So the only thing "not in doubt" here is the fact you've fallen for CIA-sponsored character assassination.
Democrats not only aren't left, they hate it more than Republicans do. Case in point: how they still whine about Nader in the 2000 election but NEVER talk about the hundreds of thousands of Florida Democrats who voted for Bush.
Then he would have taken the first real set of leaks and auctioned them off to an intelligence agency and retired to the Caymans, instead of angering said intelligence agencies - who have a penchant for kidnapping, murder and torture. Which means your line of "reasoning" is nothing more than ratfucking character assassination.
They revealed massive corruption and election rigging at the DNC. To deflect from this, Democrats followed the model used by the Bush Administration (packed with draft dodgers) accused John Kerry of cowardice. Her own campaign staff saw Uranium One as a huge liability for her, so they engaged in an epic bout of Swiftboating and projected Clinton's corruption with Russia and election meddling onto Trump.
Not when the probe has no justification for being, and is a grotesque perversion of our entire justice system. Needing probable suspicion for an investigation has been tossed out the window, but general warrants are brought back in after being banned for a few centuries, with the exception of the last bullshit partisan witch hunt - Ken Starr's obsession with the Clintons in the 90's. An obsession now mirrored in Russiagate Democrats, who have become exactly what they used to hate.
There is not. There is no popular contest for president in the United States, so there is no popular vote. It should be that way, but until the elitist Electoral College is disbanded, we are stuck with a system where candidates campaign in a handful of "battleground" states. Not across the country, so we're back to cross country vote totals being a meaningless statistic.
If by "non-sequitur" you mean "gosh, that means the popular vote really is a meaningless number", then yes.
FTFY. With the EC, small states don't matter. Large states don't matter. Neither blue nor red states matter. Only "battleground" states matter, and candidates campaign accordingly. Unless you are as incompetent as Hillary Clinton, and spend all your time trying to run up your vote totals in two coastal states while flatly ignoring all the ones between Pennsylvania and Iowa.
Convictions that have nothing to do with Russia or Trump - but you knew this already. And you also dodged the fact that Mueller has never had the FBI examine the DNC servers. That the moment it became bloody obvious that the emperor had no clothes.
There's as much justification for this investigation as if the FBI suspected Trump of plotting the attack on Pearl Harbor. This whole operation is nothing but a giant case of Swiftboating from butthurt Hillbots - Hillary's own campaign workers worried that Uranium One would be her biggest vulnerability - and deflection from who actually rigged an election in 2016.
Blind partisan tribalists reaaaaaaally need to get over this habit of finding deranged reasons to try and deny presidents of the opposing party any legitimacy. In the 90's, Republicans lost their freaking minds accusing Hillary of being a lesbian communist who had scores of people murdered as a part of the Clinton drug cartel in Arkansas. And then lost their damn minds again at the thought of a Kenyan-Muslim being president of the USA. They were complete whackjobs - but they had just as much evidence that you Russiagaters do of any collusion between Russia and Trump. Particularly when Trump has been WAY more confrontational with Russia than Obama ever was.
Neither of which would be at all hindered by network neutrality rules.
Network neutrality is about preventing favoritism, not quality of service. Nothing stops that tiny ISP serving hamlets in the Rockies from using QOS to prevent users from having their VOIP calls dropped.
You're ridiculous. If the fine doesn't exceed the benefit of the bad behavior, the company will just keep paying fines as a cost of doing business.
If not, that comparison is just...dumb.
Do you prefer Cherry or Watermelon flavor for your Hatorade?
You can play the stubborn jackass card but that doesn't actually work. Mueller has shit, and that's a fact you Russiagaters will just have to deal with.
Yeah, the Chem Trailers and Antivaxxers are also in denial of how far they've planted their heads up their own conspiracy theories, too.
The plot where Putin was so diabolically clever that he knew years in advance that a bankrupt political novice game show host could be president, that Hillary wouldn't bother to campaign in the states between Pennsylvania and Iowa (and almost lost Minnesota) - yet at the same time such a fucking idiot that he didn't anticipate any blowback. And that a former KGB man would be so unbelievably stupid as to collude with someone as dumb as Trump, which means the FBI/CIA/NSA would know, as would President Elect Hillary as the race was hers to lose right up until the end. And that he would counter $9 billion in corporate propaganda (with $1.2 billion just from Hillary) with....a few thousand dollars for Facebook and Twitter memes. And all to interfere in a race where both parties are virulently anti-Russian and have been for over a hundred years.
Like I said the first time, this wouldn't even pass as the plot to a shitty 80's action movie.
That cult is rarely the best solution for anything. The "free market" would happily see Texans go on using one ton pickups as passenger vehicles, carrying the last rhino horns to market, while the world burns from climate change.
You mean where I point out you're the last village idiot insisting the Emperor is wearing the finest livery when it's obvious to everyone that he's wearing nothing but boxers? Someday you'll have the same response to Russiagate that you'll have when your grandkids ask you if you were one of those people running around smearing Iraq war skeptics as Saddam Lovers back in 2003. "Uh, no junior, I always knew Bush and Cheney were lying to us. I totally wasn't a gullible fool and an total asshole to anyone who actually knew better. Promise!"
And Cheney actually went through the trouble of presenting evidence. Fake or bullshit evidence, but evidence nonetheless. Who knew he could have skipped all that work and just made assertions without a shred of evidence, and people like you would just eat that shit up. With a spoon. Shit handed to you from the very same liars.
That's just more elitist bullshit in defense of elitist bullshit. You could write an encyclopedia of encyclopedias of encyclopedias of all the fuck-ups in human history caused by elites. Religious wars between Catholics and Protestants? Elites. Slavery? Elites. Either of the World Wars? Colonialism? The US spending more than the rest of the world combined on war pork? Elites, elites, elites.
But go ahead and name one by fuck up by "the mob" that wasn't a directly backlash to elites fucking things up in the first place. French Terror? Wouldn't have happened without the aristocracy keeping boots on the necks of peasants for a thousand years. Cuban Revolution? Wouldn't have happened without colonialism and the US backing the brutal dictatorship of Batista.
Not unless you were a white male who owned property. The Founding Pricks were happy enough to apply taxes to people who couldn't vote, though - taxation without representation.
Stop taking it, then. You guys have any tinglings of awareness when you start throwing out bullshit when challenged instead of facts?
None of which has anything to do with Trump or Russiagate, moran. Fifteen convictions came out of the Whitewater investigation - but nothing was ever found on the Clintons. It doesn't matter if Mueller finds out that Kellyanne Conway is the real Golden State Killer - if there's no collusion between Trump and Russia, his investigation was nothing but a perversion of the American justice system where investigators need probable suspicion and aren't supposed to have general warrants.
Cheney must be kicking himself these days. He went through all that trouble to present evidence that Saddam had WMD's and was involved in 911. The evidence was either complete crap or faked, but evidence was presented. Who knew he could have skipped all that work and gone straight to having FBI officials make statements without any evidence whatsoever, and people would eat that shit up.
With a spoon.