Have something more specific? What a quick Googling turned up from his 2004 DNC speech seems pretty tame:
"The reality of gun ownership may be different for hunters in rural Ohio than for those plagued by gang-violence in Cleveland, but don't tell me we can't uphold the Second Amendment while keeping AK-47s out of the hands of criminals."
Doesn't mean freedom from consequence - its called responsibility.
The ENTIRE point of free speech is the ability to say things that might offend someone, or it's meaningless. If the principle feels wronged by this page created off school grounds, then he can sue for libel like anyone else.
Obama's key campaign guys worked for FannieMay and Freddie Mac
No, they haven't.
while McCain actually was on the floor of the senate railing against FannieMay and Freddie Mac.
Yes, because Republicans have a mad hate on for anything that helps the middle class or the poor. The problem isn't Fannie and Freddie, it's that banks were allowed to merge with investment banks and they were allowed to take insane risks.
His record and background as a big city politician? His repeated statements that cities need a way to regulate guns?
And what has he said as a U.S. Senator? And I'll start taking gun rights advocates seriously when they start lifting a finger to support those that have used guns in self defense against LEO's.
Really, I didn't know Obama was majority leader AND majority whip. We have good Democrats in Congress, we just need to kick their gutless leadership (Reid, Pelosi, Hoyer) to the curb.
I'm inclined to believe that Obama wants more gun regulation
Based on what, exactly? There was only one candidate in the presidential primaries that actively pushed for gun control, and that was Rudy Giuliani. And the NRA made as much of a fuss over Rudy's candidacy as they did over Bush stating he supported existing gun control laws and would re-sign the assault weapons ban. It's almost as if the NRA were a bunch of political hacks that use gun control as a political football to help the right wing.
No, he associates with black liberation theology nutcases, which are much worse.
Liar.
By the way, Jerry Falwell is dead.
Which does what to chance the fact that McCain kissed Falwell's ass after calling him and Robertson "agents of intolerance" in 2000.
Obama is the not change, he's more of the same. More of the same soggy liberal nonsense blah blah blah blah blah
Yawn. Republicans made the mess in Iraq, and have made a mess of our economy. Deal with it. The last thing liberals got wrong was Prohibition, and we had plenty of help from social conservatives on that one. Versus you conservatives, who have been wrong on literally everything. Taxes, regulation, health care, war, science, global warming, foreign policy, education, unions, defense spending, abortion, homosexuality, socialism, and on and on. Seriously, name an issue, and you're wrong on it.
1) Iran had a peaceful, democratic government. Until it was destroyed by the United States. If you want to complain about Iran's theocracy, start yelling at a mirror.
2) If you want to know the kind of personnel McCain would have in his administration, look at the staff he has running his campaign.
3) Racist bullshit. No, seriously, harping on Rev. Wright when white preachers say worse things every single Sunday is straight up "angry black man" racism. And what he said wasn't even bad: he was talking about how minorities had been horribly mistreated by the U.S. government - Wright grew up while the feds were experimenting with syphilis on black men. As opposed to guys like Falwell and Hagee who talk about how the U.S. is hit with hurricanes and terrorist attacks because God hates homosexuals.
And you are completely ignoring the hypocrisy aspect: in 2000, McCain called Falwell and Robertson "agents of intolerance". Now he can't suck up to their kind enough.
And chances are that Jeremiah Wright is a far, far better American than you. He voluntarily gave up his student deferment and went off to Vietnam for two tours of duty as a United States Marine, as opposed to the Bushco chickenhawks. And when he finished his second tour, he reenlisted as a medical corpsman.
4) Baseless crap.
McCain has flip flopped on every issue that made him a maverick to win the backing of troglodyte wingnuts
There, fixed that for you.
His nomination of Sarah Palin, a completely unvetted woman he met only once shows his impulsiveness makes him unfit for the presidency.
Now we have an expensive, broken retirement system in social security
It's neither expensive nor broken.
"executive greed protection programs" that have killed our international competitiveness
There, fixed that for you.
Another program to come out of the era, the SEC, epic failed at staving off the last bubble that led to the current collapse.
Because there wasn't enough regulation. It's like arguing the FDA is a bad agency because bad drugs like Vioxx slip through. Throwing the baby out for a drop of bad bath water.
Now, we risk making equally short sighted decisions by giving the government more power to distort free markets.
Markets need to be saved from themselves. It would be nice if we didn't have to relearn this lesson every 20-30 years.
Eliminating the EC might make everyone's vote "equal", but then we'll see candidates going to the major cities--LA, NYC, Chicago, Atlanta, Dallas, etc. A handful of isolated spots on the map will get all the attention, and everyone not in those cities gets told to fuck off, cause the city people know what's best for everyone.
Also not true. Where the candidates would spend their time isn't necessarily in the largest cities, but in major media markets - which would cover the vast majority of the population. Sure, the upper midwest, Hawaii and Alaska would receive much less attention, but that would be no different than how it is now.
More simplistic platitudes. Gridlock is good when something needs to be prevented - like invading Iraq or passing telecom amnesty. It is not a good thing when things need to pass, like market regulation, single payer health care and emission rules for global warming.
The electoral college is actually a pretty neat technique to protect geographic minorities.
Nice idea in theory, but it doesn't work out in practice. The only votes that presidential candidates end up fighting for are those in "battleground states", so the same 10-15 states get pandered to every election while the rest of the country is ignored. If we ditched the EC, a Democratic vote in Utah would be as important as a Republican vote in California.
No, the problem is the entrenched two party system
Ah, the two party red herring. Is Dennis Kucunich, who introduced articles of impeachment against Cheney, on the same page as Obama or Hillary? Does Ron Paul have the same stance on the issues as John McCain? Do the Log Cabin Republicans have the same priorities as the Christian Coalition? Having two parties in no way cuts down on your number of options or the number of views represented. Not to mention the fact that other countries with multi-party systems have just as much corruption (Italy) only to have more gridlock.
This sounds like a great idea, except for one thing. You DID break the law. You SHOULD have paid the fine.
Except that the municipality WANTS you to break the law so they can collect MONEY. Red light cameras are about revenue generation, not safety. They're set up at busy intersections with low yellow light times, not dangerous intersections with a high number of accidents. Increasing yellow light times eliminates most of the problem, but then they wouldn't be able to sock people for $270.
Where did I talk about book lists? And didn't Alsee sufficiently kick your ass on this subject? You don't go asking THREE TIMES about banning books if you don't want to ban books.
Common man, don't make me regret defnending you from the anti-Apple fanboys.:)
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"I was just joking".
Yes, it will be hard to prove.
Hardly. You have to prove that it was malicious, good luck with that. Now, however, the school has opened itself up to a giant lawsuit.
Have something more specific? What a quick Googling turned up from his 2004 DNC speech seems pretty tame:
Free speech is not a right for minors to be lewd.
Nope, see 2 Live Crew and Hairy Woman. Lewd speech is protected.
Doesn't mean freedom from consequence - its called responsibility.
The ENTIRE point of free speech is the ability to say things that might offend someone, or it's meaningless. If the principle feels wronged by this page created off school grounds, then he can sue for libel like anyone else.
If all the kids voted to have the pricipal expelled in a "true" democratic environment, the kids would have mob rule over the school.
When they aren't anywhere near the school?
The kid deserved to be expelled.
You're insane.
Obama's key campaign guys worked for FannieMay and Freddie Mac
No, they haven't.
while McCain actually was on the floor of the senate railing against FannieMay and Freddie Mac.
Yes, because Republicans have a mad hate on for anything that helps the middle class or the poor. The problem isn't Fannie and Freddie, it's that banks were allowed to merge with investment banks and they were allowed to take insane risks.
Liar.
His record and background as a big city politician? His repeated statements that cities need a way to regulate guns?
And what has he said as a U.S. Senator? And I'll start taking gun rights advocates seriously when they start lifting a finger to support those that have used guns in self defense against LEO's.
Really, I didn't know Obama was majority leader AND majority whip. We have good Democrats in Congress, we just need to kick their gutless leadership (Reid, Pelosi, Hoyer) to the curb.
I'm inclined to believe that Obama wants more gun regulation
Based on what, exactly? There was only one candidate in the presidential primaries that actively pushed for gun control, and that was Rudy Giuliani. And the NRA made as much of a fuss over Rudy's candidacy as they did over Bush stating he supported existing gun control laws and would re-sign the assault weapons ban. It's almost as if the NRA were a bunch of political hacks that use gun control as a political football to help the right wing.
No, he associates with black liberation theology nutcases, which are much worse.
Liar.
By the way, Jerry Falwell is dead.
Which does what to chance the fact that McCain kissed Falwell's ass after calling him and Robertson "agents of intolerance" in 2000.
Obama is the not change, he's more of the same. More of the same soggy liberal nonsense blah blah blah blah blah
Yawn. Republicans made the mess in Iraq, and have made a mess of our economy. Deal with it. The last thing liberals got wrong was Prohibition, and we had plenty of help from social conservatives on that one. Versus you conservatives, who have been wrong on literally everything. Taxes, regulation, health care, war, science, global warming, foreign policy, education, unions, defense spending, abortion, homosexuality, socialism, and on and on. Seriously, name an issue, and you're wrong on it.
1) Iran had a peaceful, democratic government. Until it was destroyed by the United States. If you want to complain about Iran's theocracy, start yelling at a mirror.
2) If you want to know the kind of personnel McCain would have in his administration, look at the staff he has running his campaign.
3) Racist bullshit. No, seriously, harping on Rev. Wright when white preachers say worse things every single Sunday is straight up "angry black man" racism. And what he said wasn't even bad: he was talking about how minorities had been horribly mistreated by the U.S. government - Wright grew up while the feds were experimenting with syphilis on black men. As opposed to guys like Falwell and Hagee who talk about how the U.S. is hit with hurricanes and terrorist attacks because God hates homosexuals.
And you are completely ignoring the hypocrisy aspect: in 2000, McCain called Falwell and Robertson "agents of intolerance". Now he can't suck up to their kind enough.
And chances are that Jeremiah Wright is a far, far better American than you. He voluntarily gave up his student deferment and went off to Vietnam for two tours of duty as a United States Marine, as opposed to the Bushco chickenhawks. And when he finished his second tour, he reenlisted as a medical corpsman.
4) Baseless crap.
McCain has flip flopped on every issue that made him a maverick to win the backing of troglodyte wingnuts
There, fixed that for you.
His nomination of Sarah Palin, a completely unvetted woman he met only once shows his impulsiveness makes him unfit for the presidency.
Fixed that too.
So if we have a spineless Congress, it's more important, not less, that McCain not win the election.
Now we have an expensive, broken retirement system in social security
It's neither expensive nor broken.
"executive greed protection programs" that have killed our international competitiveness
There, fixed that for you.
Another program to come out of the era, the SEC, epic failed at staving off the last bubble that led to the current collapse.
Because there wasn't enough regulation. It's like arguing the FDA is a bad agency because bad drugs like Vioxx slip through. Throwing the baby out for a drop of bad bath water.
Now, we risk making equally short sighted decisions by giving the government more power to distort free markets.
Markets need to be saved from themselves. It would be nice if we didn't have to relearn this lesson every 20-30 years.
So how is your lawsuit going?
That argument would be acceptable if parties could have more than one candidate on the ballot.
Um, we did that already. It was called a primary, and both major parties had one.
Eliminating the EC might make everyone's vote "equal", but then we'll see candidates going to the major cities--LA, NYC, Chicago, Atlanta, Dallas, etc. A handful of isolated spots on the map will get all the attention, and everyone not in those cities gets told to fuck off, cause the city people know what's best for everyone.
Also not true. Where the candidates would spend their time isn't necessarily in the largest cities, but in major media markets - which would cover the vast majority of the population. Sure, the upper midwest, Hawaii and Alaska would receive much less attention, but that would be no different than how it is now.
More simplistic platitudes. Gridlock is good when something needs to be prevented - like invading Iraq or passing telecom amnesty. It is not a good thing when things need to pass, like market regulation, single payer health care and emission rules for global warming.
Ask a black person who lived in the South in the 60's.
The electoral college is actually a pretty neat technique to protect geographic minorities.
Nice idea in theory, but it doesn't work out in practice. The only votes that presidential candidates end up fighting for are those in "battleground states", so the same 10-15 states get pandered to every election while the rest of the country is ignored. If we ditched the EC, a Democratic vote in Utah would be as important as a Republican vote in California.
No, the problem is the entrenched two party system
Ah, the two party red herring. Is Dennis Kucunich, who introduced articles of impeachment against Cheney, on the same page as Obama or Hillary? Does Ron Paul have the same stance on the issues as John McCain? Do the Log Cabin Republicans have the same priorities as the Christian Coalition? Having two parties in no way cuts down on your number of options or the number of views represented. Not to mention the fact that other countries with multi-party systems have just as much corruption (Italy) only to have more gridlock.
As is usually the case, take the wingnut position, rotate it 180 degress, and you have reality.
This sounds like a great idea, except for one thing. You DID break the law. You SHOULD have paid the fine.
Except that the municipality WANTS you to break the law so they can collect MONEY. Red light cameras are about revenue generation, not safety. They're set up at busy intersections with low yellow light times, not dangerous intersections with a high number of accidents. Increasing yellow light times eliminates most of the problem, but then they wouldn't be able to sock people for $270.
Size of the plant? But anyway, building a new plant is silly when they're closing existing facilities - just retrofit one.
The book list for example?
Where did I talk about book lists? And didn't Alsee sufficiently kick your ass on this subject? You don't go asking THREE TIMES about banning books if you don't want to ban books.
Common man, don't make me regret defnending you from the anti-Apple fanboys. :)