It reminds me of a joke in the Dutch comic series "Fokke & Sukke", which goes something like this:
Fokke & Sukke are amazed by today's technology
Im not going to a website where the characters are named after Nazi Luftwaffe aircrafts.
Thats interesting, and I agree with you. I just wish people wouldnt be so pessimistic though. Why is there always a focus on the future being bad. This is the cop out that gets us where we are today. "This disaster will happen and the world will have to adapt this way.." Instead of. "We are taking steps to get to this position in the future. By then the environment will have been restored". Its never a case of living in harmony with nature, rather continuing on in our destructive path, then making nature as inhospitable as possible, then finding a way to survive in our newly created hostile environment."
Its just amazing how inefficent this military industrial complex we all live in is. Its staggering how far we could have advanced technologically if we made the right moves in the beginning. We havent even learned to stop doing what we are doing.
cities that grow like viruses, cities that look and function like holes made by earthworms
I think this is analogous of most cities in America, no?
I like the genetic tree drunk idea - a bit like the elven wood city of Lothlorien...
Previously, those who had tbe best ideas would get the money.
Ehhhh, hello??
I think if someone comes up with away to stop the pointless squandering of money down the toilet while people in the third world are dieing it IS the best idea is it not....
An observatory base in Antartica would go some (small) way to making use of the damage that has already been done to the Ozone layer.
As for your over paid "research" life, I find it hard to give you credibility when you are so eage to satisfy your own self indulgence ahead of the good of the world. I hope someone really does lanch you into orbit! ; )
Put it on ebay.;)
Damn right. Start thy bidding.
'Sir I have the Mujahadeen on line one @40'
'Going once @40 million dollars..going twice..'
'Wait..Chechnyan rebbels have put in a bid for 50'
'Ok, we have 50. 50 million dollars. Any takers on 55.. 55.. 50 million dollars..anyone for 55...going once...going twice...sold
I agree. Old school linux server(linux as it was meant to be) for me: -A raw bare bones kernel and Slackware distro. Kerel stripped down and compiled for the architecture. -A set of scripts you use to repeat this process again automatically. -No GUI of any kind. -All the tools you use are seperate and autonomous. -There are NO services / daemons running that you dont know about.
Hey, my wife has been trying for a year now to convince me to buy her a gameboy...
I thought you were going to say:
"Hey, my wife and I have been trying to conceive for a year now with a gameboy"
phew
As someone who is not from the U.S (Im from Ireland), its really none of my business.
Some of you may remember G.W Bush's visit to Ireland some time back. It was not televised really, even though our Taoiseach (president) was the then E.U leader, hence the visit to Ireland. He was most unwelcome here, which is strange concidering that of all the countries in Europe, Ireland has one of - if not - the strongest affinity with the US - there are many Irish-Americans. You can contrast the warm welcome given to good old Clinton with the cold military pitstop of Bush's visit. There are many reasons I want to see the end of Republican government. In fact I think this American election will attract more outside interest than all the previous ones simply because there is a such a strong repulsion for this Republican 'regime'. Anyway, you have a 2-party system. Nobody wins really! I think the U.S needs to reform its whole political system. Sadly thats probably not going to happen..
As for MACOSX and WinXP, I have no desire to make my Slackware distro more like them. Its going to take more than that. And won't I have to recompile my kernel if I install a new X-server - something I am reluctant to do unless Im testing it. I have no problem helping with testing betas etc but Im going to want to know they are putting in something that useful. If a new ALSA driver comes out that vastly improves my sound experience I want to know but this doesn't sound so great.
Without the darkness, how would we recognize the light?
if (no darkness) {
no_need_to_recognize_dark;
only_recognize_higher_magnitude_light;
Greater_sight_in_very_bright_ambient_light;
}
Well, firstly, Im not surprised you got some flamebait modding. What did you expect??
In your rant, you focussed on the install / setup issues with Linux. Firstly, as a loyal Linux user myself, your main problem seems to be that you are not prepared to get your hands dirty. This is what you have to do if you use Linux. You are no longer in your magical lala land where you click on the magical ice cream and everything is just fine - not true. Linux is more honest. Operating systems ARE complex, and if you want to use them then all the better it is that you learn as much as you can about them. Let me put it this way. And this is a classic ananlogy used by many. A car. With Linux you can look under the hood and see the gaskets, valves and battery etc.. In fact with some Linux distos - you are shown this as part of the install - especially my chose distro - Slackware. You actually find yourself learning as you install and configure the system. And this is a deliberate degign by these guys. I guess you have to an optimistic person to use Linux - you have to see the complexity as a learning journey, a right of passage as opposed to an annoying waist of your time. Linux IS honest. From the beginning, you have to learn and if you are prepared to, you WILL make it work, becuase its Open Source - there are documents to show how everything works, and the source code for those documemts to back that up. You set ip up, and you know EXACTLY what you are getting and what its going to do. So why do Linux sys admins get more money than Windows counterparts generally? Isn't it obvious? A Linux sys admin van guarantee you what the server is doing. You have so much more control expecially performance-wise control. You mentioned the kernel - good. What is benefical about compiling the kernel - significant performance gain. You really do have to try it in a different perspective. What if your server is going to perform some mission critical application. What if you need to run a brute force algorithm that (when finished) regardless of the result it generates, will be of Scientific imporance that benefits the commumity as a whole. Wouldn't you like to know you are squeezing every drop of performance you can. Wouldnt you like to know that it probably wont crash ( because you know what its doing) and if it does crash, you can potentially know what caused it to crash with much more ease. What if the algorithm need to run for 5 years on the server (cluster) you have? In these cases performance is everything. By compiling the kernel you are locking the source code down onto the specific architecture of the server. With Windows you get a generic binary ball that is not optimized. With a Linux kernelm you can configure it to remove any bloat you do not need. Lets see, sound drivers - not gonna need them I'll remove that entry, gnome (GUI) not gonna need that - outta there. You can tailor the kernel (the core, and most important ingredient of the OS) for your needs. You can strip it down to the bare minimum so that when its running flat out on a server it is tailored for that server in terms of optimization and what you need in terms of services, whatever they be - samba, bind, tcp..all the unneeded stuff is removed.
Essentially, the kernel compilation step is a sacred wonderful thing. If you took the time to embrace Linux, you would be enlightened by its power. You are not forced to use anything, particularly not 3rd party propreitary stuff. You make it into whatever you want.
Yes, its challenging but when you're done you can sit back and sigh to tourself "Heck that was painful at times, but I sure got that server stripped down to run flat out. You cannot compare it to Windows.
I have to say, Im using Cedega - I have to as I refuse to use Windows on my machine. It works great, and no need for DX9 install!! - its included. Its not perfect but I'm much more comfortable paying a company like Cedega than paying MS...I may be wrong to be more comfortable, but I dont think so.
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It reminds me of a joke in the Dutch comic series "Fokke & Sukke", which goes something like this: Fokke & Sukke are amazed by today's technology
Im not going to a website where the characters are named after Nazi Luftwaffe aircrafts.
fuck is number 5598 ..
Now its around 2297 - woohoo
I'll sort that out: fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck,
'Amongst other things' being tubeing!
I had a look at your web site. I hope things work out for you.
In China they use bamboo for scaffolding - or they did..
What about sky cities like the sky city in the Empire Strikes Back - that place would rule
Hehe, I meet drunken monkeys all the time, or are they earthworms - a boom tish!!
Thats interesting, and I agree with you. I just wish people wouldnt be so pessimistic though. Why is there always a focus on the future being bad. This is the cop out that gets us where we are today. "This disaster will happen and the world will have to adapt this way.."
Instead of. "We are taking steps to get to this position in the future. By then the environment will have been restored".
Its never a case of living in harmony with nature, rather continuing on in our destructive path, then making nature as inhospitable as possible, then finding a way to survive in our newly created hostile environment."
Its just amazing how inefficent this military industrial complex we all live in is. Its staggering how far we could have advanced technologically if we made the right moves in the beginning. We havent even learned to stop doing what we are doing.
And I want to wear a monacle and a hat. And carry my portable sun dial around in a model t ford...
cities that grow like viruses, cities that look and function like holes made by earthworms
I think this is analogous of most cities in America, no? I like the genetic tree drunk idea - a bit like the elven wood city of Lothlorien...
Monopolies lead to lobbying.
Lobbying leads to corruption.
Corruption leads to the dark side.
use Linux. Advanced it is.
Previously, those who had tbe best ideas would get the money.
Ehhhh, hello?? I think if someone comes up with away to stop the pointless squandering of money down the toilet while people in the third world are dieing it IS the best idea is it not.... An observatory base in Antartica would go some (small) way to making use of the damage that has already been done to the Ozone layer.
As for your over paid "research" life, I find it hard to give you credibility when you are so eage to satisfy your own self indulgence ahead of the good of the world. I hope someone really does lanch you into orbit! ; )
Put it on ebay. ;) .. 55 .. 50 million dollars ..anyone for 55...going once...going twice...sold
Damn right. Start thy bidding. 'Sir I have the Mujahadeen on line one @40' 'Going once @40 million dollars..going twice..' 'Wait..Chechnyan rebbels have put in a bid for 50' 'Ok, we have 50. 50 million dollars. Any takers on 55
I agree. Old school linux server(linux as it was meant to be) for me:
-A raw bare bones kernel and Slackware distro. Kerel stripped down and compiled for the architecture.
-A set of scripts you use to repeat this process again automatically.
-No GUI of any kind.
-All the tools you use are seperate and autonomous.
-There are NO services / daemons running that you dont know about.
yeahhh
The Genesis probe (reported here) has crashed to the ground, near a road in the Utah desert.
better look next time Spock..
Yeah, I use to believe that when I registered to vote.
Democracy is the delusion that the majotity of people are right the majority of the time!
Hey, my wife has been trying for a year now to convince me to buy her a gameboy...
I thought you were going to say: "Hey, my wife and I have been trying to conceive for a year now with a gameboy"
phew
As someone who is not from the U.S (Im from Ireland), its really none of my business.
Some of you may remember G.W Bush's visit to Ireland some time back. It was not televised really, even though our Taoiseach (president) was the then E.U leader, hence the visit to Ireland.
He was most unwelcome here, which is strange concidering that of all the countries in Europe, Ireland has one of - if not - the strongest affinity with the US - there are many Irish-Americans. You can contrast the warm welcome given to good old Clinton with the cold military pitstop of Bush's visit. There are many reasons I want to see the end of Republican government. In fact I think this American election will attract more outside interest than all the previous ones simply because there is a such a strong repulsion for this Republican 'regime'. Anyway, you have a 2-party system. Nobody wins really! I think the U.S needs to reform its whole political system. Sadly thats probably not going to happen..
As for MACOSX and WinXP, I have no desire to make my Slackware distro more like them. Its going to take more than that. And won't I have to recompile my kernel if I install a new X-server - something I am reluctant to do unless Im testing it. I have no problem helping with testing betas etc but Im going to want to know they are putting in something that useful. If a new ALSA driver comes out that vastly improves my sound experience I want to know but this doesn't sound so great.
Wow, that was one insane ride.
Sounds good to me.
Better than:
'We have foundz ze nth dimenzion of ze nd dimenzion of the nd dimenzion of ze univerz'
How will this bring joy to our lives and prevent world poverty?
'We have foundz ze nth dimenzion......'
Without the darkness, how would we recognize the light?
if (no darkness) { no_need_to_recognize_dark; only_recognize_higher_magnitude_light; Greater_sight_in_very_bright_ambient_light; }
Its dues in 2007!!
Wow, by then we'll all be beeming down to planets in real life...
Exactly.
Khan[defiant][phaser][inflicts +10 dmg]on Kirk[Enterprise].
Khaaaaaaaan
Well, firstly, Im not surprised you got some flamebait modding. What did you expect??
..all the unneeded stuff is removed.
In your rant, you focussed on the install / setup issues with Linux. Firstly, as a loyal Linux user myself, your main problem seems to be that you are not prepared to get your hands dirty. This is what you have to do if you use Linux. You are no longer in your magical lala land where you click on the magical ice cream and everything is just fine - not true. Linux is more honest. Operating systems ARE complex, and if you want to use them then all the better it is that you learn as much as you can about them. Let me put it this way. And this is a classic ananlogy used by many. A car. With Linux you can look under the hood and see the gaskets, valves and battery etc.. In fact with some Linux distos - you are shown this as part of the install - especially my chose distro - Slackware. You actually find yourself learning as you install and configure the system. And this is a deliberate degign by these guys. I guess you have to an optimistic person to use Linux - you have to see the complexity as a learning journey, a right of passage as opposed to an annoying waist of your time. Linux IS honest. From the beginning, you have to learn and if you are prepared to, you WILL make it work, becuase its Open Source - there are documents to show how everything works, and the source code for those documemts to back that up. You set ip up, and you know EXACTLY what you are getting and what its going to do. So why do Linux sys admins get more money than Windows counterparts generally? Isn't it obvious? A Linux sys admin van guarantee you what the server is doing. You have so much more control expecially performance-wise control. You mentioned the kernel - good. What is benefical about compiling the kernel - significant performance gain. You really do have to try it in a different perspective. What if your server is going to perform some mission critical application. What if you need to run a brute force algorithm that (when finished) regardless of the result it generates, will be of Scientific imporance that benefits the commumity as a whole. Wouldn't you like to know you are squeezing every drop of performance you can. Wouldnt you like to know that it probably wont crash ( because you know what its doing) and if it does crash, you can potentially know what caused it to crash with much more ease. What if the algorithm need to run for 5 years on the server (cluster) you have? In these cases performance is everything. By compiling the kernel you are locking the source code down onto the specific architecture of the server. With Windows you get a generic binary ball that is not optimized. With a Linux kernelm you can configure it to remove any bloat you do not need. Lets see, sound drivers - not gonna need them I'll remove that entry, gnome (GUI) not gonna need that - outta there. You can tailor the kernel (the core, and most important ingredient of the OS) for your needs. You can strip it down to the bare minimum so that when its running flat out on a server it is tailored for that server in terms of optimization and what you need in terms of services, whatever they be - samba, bind, tcp
Essentially, the kernel compilation step is a sacred wonderful thing. If you took the time to embrace Linux, you would be enlightened by its power. You are not forced to use anything, particularly not 3rd party propreitary stuff. You make it into whatever you want.
Yes, its challenging but when you're done you can sit back and sigh to tourself "Heck that was painful at times, but I sure got that server stripped down to run flat out. You cannot compare it to Windows.
I have to say, Im using Cedega - I have to as I refuse to use Windows on my machine. It works great, and no need for DX9 install!! - its included. Its not perfect but I'm much more comfortable paying a company like Cedega than paying MS...I may be wrong to be more comfortable, but I dont think so.