I could tell you were one of my brothers SubltleNuance. I agree. The U.S. is not free. You system harps on about it but actually, because you have a non existent social welfare system, and bad unaffordable education system, you are not free at all. Scandinavian people know what freedom is.! But my question to you is: Why do you want to live in the states? Why don't you come and live in Europe - it's not perfect but it's better.
If you think things are better in the U.S you are wrong. Technology in America is the best but it's not for the public. Your public transport sucks. If you lived in France or Germany, or any of the Scandinavian countries you would instantly feel you are in a country that's years ahead.
You probably don't desserve to have to live in the U.S.
Really, besides jazz, soul, and baseball, what do you have?
Stop knocking communism, It was never communism that failed - it was the people that ran it and the people that served it.
It is true in my opinion that sapce exploration would be non existent in the hare and now under communism, if it was implemented properly and we were all ready for it - we're not.
But, in about 50 years when we all have barcodes on our arms and our sirnames are Microsoft and McDonald, and the Kennedy Space centre is a nuclear grave yard...
Lets just say I prefer the idea of a communist future. Clean up the world now. Then in 50 years (when we have nothing better to spend money on)
start off about 20 different missions all around the solar system if we want to!
Yeah, actually sorry to burst your bubble but it bothers me that you would even think about these things. Venezuela, and particularly Nth. Korea suffer from dictatorships right no, not to mention practically all of Africa has been completely ravaged. Where are you for these people?
Bush senior armed and empowered Saddam to destroy to use him as a puppet to manipulate Iraqi oil prices as needs be, and also to control the channels of Opium from Afghanistan, at the expense of millions, it's not your place to even think of Iraq. If they want another dictator themselves it would be better, as long as he wasn't again armed by America, so Iraq can finally have self determination.
How they choose to rebuild is there business. If they decide they would first like to repair the mosques before the hospitals, that's theie business not Bush's or some big American engineering or telecoms company. Open your eyes!
..and health system, and education system, and infrastructure, and cultural development. Americans always forget that one ->cultural, because they're too busy killing culture off. Bush, get your tentacles out of Iraq. It's not your job to assume influence over Iraq, yeah, they should be using open source - we all should, whats new? FFS, what I would give these people now is culture.
Iraq, wasn't it formerly Persia?, it is rich in culture, in fact they should rename Iraq the Democratic Republic of Persia -that would be a nice start.
Thats the whole point. I'm talking about a primitive Tuting machine communication here, which IS possible, not a sophisticated high bandwith internet connection between Mars and Gargon 5.
And by the way, the very reason they went through the horrible pain of using rubidium in the first place was to AVOID decoherance.
If you bothered to study the experiments of ENS, you would see that the whole point was to repeatedly remeasure the phase shift without damaging the photon of light,but instead merely, of course, changing it's phase. The experiment was a great success and paves the way for far more exotic experiments,..
You said:
"If you do something to one of your photons, it will simply destroy the entanglement"
This is wrong!!
rubidium does not take any energy away from light therefore the catastrophic chaotic cascading you refer to does not have a chance to occur.
See a nicely written article
here:>
or
ENS home, here
Quantum Cryptography is a completely different thing, it is not utilizing the quirky "strangeness" of the quantum universe, rather the non-deterministic uncertain nature of quanta, you simply can't compare them, you are referring me to an irrelevant article!
I use IE 6 and Mozilla Firebird. Firebird is not vulnerable, It passed the test If you're doing any online purchasing, just make sure you verify the contents with a second browser like mozill and u'll be ok
Though Einstein, Podosky and Rosen were able to monitor the effects of QE (Quantum Entanglement), no scientists yet know how an entangled pair of photons can have this "weird" communication.
Some suspect a quantum bridge of some kind, whatever that would be..! I like to think it is one of natures gifts, it is wnough that we can dream of its use and who knows, maybe someday use it.
So thats why eavesdropping would be imnpossible!!!
The only hope for an eavesdropper would be to secretly take over the disentanglement process an manufacture a third photon (for his/her self)
Then however communication would break down, because inevitably, the eaves dropper would measure his/her photon, creating an extra phase shift. Now communication between the 2 law-biding parties would have a triple phase shift, so they would immediately know someone is eavesdropping and cease communication. So, QE really would be the perfect way to communicate!
These experiments are all a stepping stone towards genuine quantum communication. Previous experiment such as those in Paris (by firing rhubidium through a photon of light)showed that scientists can no measure certain properties of light without destroying the photon, and then re-measure it. The problem was that for quantum communication, you need to disentangle 2 separate photons from an entangled state so that any change you make to one makes ann instantaneous change to the other, it's twin if you like and that can be done it seems. But, keeping the light fixed in a certain place is one of the tricky parts. If they ever succeed at refing these crystals to the extent that a photon can be kept in a deterministic state, then all you need is 2 of these crystals - you can imagine them being placed at opposite ends of our solar system, each crystal containing your premade entangled photon bouncing back and forth, with the crystal itself locked in some kind of black box (cavity). Presumablt the crystals would have small atomic/sub/atomic sized pin holes to fire the rhubidium or other material through one of the crystals. The the phase shif of the rhubidium caused by this firing also occurs at the other photon (because they are entangled). Then when you measure the phase shift of the second crystal, the difference is twice as great (i.e. the first phase shift plus the second phase shift0 - hence you know at the other end of the solar system, that it was fired. Now all you need is a model, to measure according to time, t. For example, one crystal could measure every odd microsecond, the other at every even microsecond.
Now you have a unary turing machine, communicating between the stars!!!.
Slashdot Mirror
Yep,
I believe most virus are spawned by people who gain access to the source. M$ does not give us
access to their source so perhaps they have a mole.!
Exactly, Don't f--k with Pandora's box. Don't want to give Sco ammunition.
The problem with Canada is it's very close, geographically, to the U.S.!
Well yes, I think the whole point of anarchism would be to keep things small scale to avoid hierarchy.
Sounds like a nice alternative!
greens of the worls unite.
I could tell you were one of my brothers SubltleNuance. I agree. The U.S. is not free.
You system harps on about it but actually, because you have a non existent social welfare system, and bad unaffordable education system, you are not free at all. Scandinavian people know what freedom is.! But my question to you is:
Why do you want to live in the states?
Why don't you come and live in Europe - it's not perfect but it's better.
If you think things are better in the U.S you are wrong.
Technology in America is the best but it's not for the public. Your public transport sucks.
If you lived in France or Germany, or any of the Scandinavian countries you would instantly feel you are in a country that's years ahead.
You probably don't desserve to have to live in the U.S.
Really, besides jazz, soul, and baseball, what do you have?
Stop knocking communism,
It was never communism that failed - it was the people that ran it and the people that served it.
It is true in my opinion that sapce exploration would be non existent in the hare and now under communism, if it was implemented properly and we were all ready for it - we're not.
But, in about 50 years when we all have barcodes on our arms and our sirnames are Microsoft and McDonald, and the Kennedy Space centre is a nuclear grave yard...
Lets just say I prefer the idea of a communist future. Clean up the world now. Then in 50 years (when we have nothing better to spend money on)
start off about 20 different missions all around the solar system if we want to!
Hmm, it's in near earth orbit to accomodate the Russians.
I thought they needed extra fans to accomodate the wind passed by the Russian cosmonots after eating all that dodgy Pizza hut grub.
I'd have to agree with some of the otheers: Goo'ol knife fight in the gutter beneath cs_masion
None of the actors have fake noses, and the film hasn't been released close enough to the oscars.. !
Yeah, he must be formerly general manager of toys'r'us. Sorry for the insult toys'r'us.
Yeah, I understand the meaning of choice too.
I can break the law and go to jail, or I can break the law and go to jail.
yeah gimme my oggs back, who stole my ogg?
Yeah, actually sorry to burst your bubble but it bothers me that you would even think about these things. Venezuela, and particularly Nth. Korea suffer from dictatorships right no, not to mention practically all of Africa has been completely ravaged. Where are you for these people?
Bush senior armed and empowered Saddam to destroy to use him as a puppet to manipulate Iraqi oil prices as needs be, and also to control the channels of Opium from Afghanistan, at the expense of millions, it's not your place to even think of Iraq. If they want another dictator themselves it would be better, as long as he wasn't again armed by America, so Iraq can finally have self determination.
How they choose to rebuild is there business. If they decide they would first like to repair the mosques before the hospitals, that's theie business not Bush's or some big American engineering or telecoms company. Open your eyes!
..and health system, and education system, and infrastructure, and cultural development.
Americans always forget that one ->cultural, because they're too busy killing culture off.
Bush, get your tentacles out of Iraq. It's not your job to assume influence over Iraq, yeah, they should be using open source - we all should, whats new?
FFS, what I would give these people now is culture.
Iraq, wasn't it formerly Persia?, it is rich in culture, in fact they should rename Iraq the Democratic Republic of Persia -that would be a nice start.
I think you understand what I'm tallking about with:
"*same* random choices"
but 1-time pad, slow down there, that again is another ball game,
but interesting none the less, don't you just love a goo aphine cipher?
: )
No Scott,
Teleortation, again, is a completely different, far more advanced application of entanglement and is not applicable here.
Actually, it's not even genuine teleporation, it's actually allot more like replication!!
In fact I would say it IS replication/duplication, whatever you want to call it, but it's very interesting!
: )
Oh, dear,
Thats the whole point. I'm talking about a primitive Tuting machine communication here, which IS possible, not a sophisticated high bandwith internet connection between Mars and Gargon 5.
And by the way, the very reason they went through the horrible pain of using rubidium in the first place was to AVOID decoherance.
If you bothered to study the experiments of ENS, you would see that the whole point was to repeatedly remeasure the phase shift without damaging the photon of light,but instead merely, of course, changing it's phase. The experiment was a great success and paves the way for far more exotic experiments,..
I'm tired. and I think you are missing the point!!
You said: "If you do something to one of your photons, it will simply destroy the entanglement" This is wrong!! rubidium does not take any energy away from light therefore the catastrophic chaotic cascading you refer to does not have a chance to occur. See a nicely written article here:> or ENS home, here
Quantum Cryptography is a completely different thing, it is not utilizing the quirky "strangeness" of the quantum universe, rather the non-deterministic uncertain nature of quanta, you simply can't compare them, you are referring me to an irrelevant article!
ESR are my reference, if the theory is coorect it should work, if not,...big scientific embarrassment!
I use IE 6 and Mozilla Firebird.
Firebird is not vulnerable, It passed the test
If you're doing any online purchasing, just make sure you verify the contents with a second browser like mozill and u'll be ok
: )
yeah.. Click Here to Perform Test!
Oops, and forgot to mention,
Though Einstein, Podosky and Rosen were able to monitor the effects of QE (Quantum Entanglement), no scientists yet know how an entangled pair of photons can have this "weird" communication.
Some suspect a quantum bridge of some kind, whatever that would be..!
I like to think it is one of natures gifts, it is wnough that we can dream of its use and who knows, maybe someday use it.
So thats why eavesdropping would be imnpossible!!!
The only hope for an eavesdropper would be to secretly take over the disentanglement process an manufacture a third photon (for his/her self)
Then however communication would break down, because inevitably, the eaves dropper would measure his/her photon, creating an extra phase shift. Now communication between the 2 law-biding parties would have a triple phase shift, so they would immediately know someone is eavesdropping and cease communication. So, QE really would be the perfect way to communicate!
I think you're missing the point.
These experiments are all a stepping stone towards genuine quantum communication. Previous experiment such as those in Paris (by firing rhubidium through a photon of light)showed that scientists can no measure certain properties of light without destroying the photon, and then re-measure it. The problem was that for quantum communication, you need to disentangle 2 separate photons from an entangled state so that any change you make to one makes ann instantaneous change to the other, it's twin if you like and that can be done it seems. But, keeping the light fixed in a certain place is one of the tricky parts. If they ever succeed at refing these crystals to the extent that a photon can be kept in a deterministic state, then all you need is 2 of these crystals - you can imagine them being placed at opposite ends of our solar system, each crystal containing your premade entangled photon bouncing back and forth, with the crystal itself locked in some kind of black box (cavity).
Presumablt the crystals would have small atomic/sub/atomic sized pin holes to fire the rhubidium or other material through one of the crystals. The the phase shif of the rhubidium caused by this firing also occurs at the other photon (because they are entangled). Then when you measure the phase shift of the second crystal, the difference is twice as great (i.e. the first phase shift plus the second phase shift0 - hence you know at the other end of the solar system, that it was fired. Now all you need is a model, to measure
according to time, t. For example, one crystal could measure every odd microsecond, the other at every even microsecond.
Now you have a unary turing machine, communicating between the stars!!!.
Sounds like all the symptoms of cabin fever.
You'd be better off on a Spanish gallion
with sower craut for breakfast,
ARRRRRRRRRR!