...so can't tell the difference between an airplane and a planet despite being well experienced to tell the difference when awake.
I don't know about you, but I have a pilots license, and will tell you that lights directly in front of you, not moving up, down or at any angle generally indicate you're going head on into oncoming traffic.
The best things you can do, over all, are invest during the good times so that the bad times aren't has bad as they could be.
Maybe you meant it differently, but I'm a believer in investing during the bad times. Then, you get to ride the market as things get better. If you invest during the good times, you lose that investment as the economy/market turns downward.
You are full of crap related to noise of modern dishwashers - they don't have much.
We have a 5 yr old GE in our kitchen, and when it's on, I have to crank up the TV in the family room ~30ft away. You know jack about all "modern dishwashers", so please stop spewing that BS.
I'm in no way trying to defend TSA, so I think we can skip that argument. Do we need some kind of airport security? Certainly, just not the theater we have today.
I was reacting to your blaming TSA for this incident, which appears to me (having not read TFA) to have no real reason to point the finger at them. Yes, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
So let me get this straight. Terrorists would leave a "device" on a plane so that it detonates once the plane is on the ground, there is little fuel left, and all the passengers were off?
Okay, you tried, but failed. Planes get refueled and reloaded. As for "Worst Terrorists Ever", there are plenty of stupid criminals (Shoe Bomber ring a bell?). So, you can't make assumptions about any item left behind. The military typically blows up things that are found on bases around the world, and has at least as far back as when I was in the AF (1970s).
While the anecdote was cute, it doesn't dictate what policy is, or should be. If a suspicious item is found, then yes the people responsible should be handcuffed until such time as it is clear that there is no threat. That's SOP for most law enforcement.
And, in response to your follow up post, not everyone is a suicide bomber.
I think the fact that it was *left* on the plane means that someone in the TSA already decided it was ok to be on the plane in the first place.
You and so many others here are making that judgement call. If we were talking about computer security, and a hacker had gotten into your PC, would you say that your firewall failed? This is why there are layers in all kinds of security, and none are 100% effective, or we'd only need one. What if the flight had originated outside the US...should they have reacted differently, because TSA wasn't there to scan everything that went on board? No, when you see something suspicious, you act, and that's what happened here. Yes, we all love to hate the TSA (myself included), but you're barking up the wrong tree.
Until the device is correctly identified as not being a threat, yes. That's simple SOP in any security organization. There are many things to hate about TSA. This isn't one of them.
It means that the majority think that what you wrote is dumb, uninformed or stupid. Yes, this is a vague judgment. Get over it.
That would be better than what we have currently, if only it was true. Right now, it only takes the first one or two moderators (not a majority) to hammer your post into obscurity. If you're lucky, it might be fixed by meta-moderation, but doubtful that anyone would see it by then. I don't know that there's a better way, but certainly many perfectly good posts get trampled on by those not willing to accept that there might be a valid opposing view.
They are implying that you are controlling the drone from a boat on the sea. Thus you would get sea-sick.
Interesting, but that would be a bad assumption considering the ability of many drones to be controlled at great distance (from land) for many hours. And, even if they were controlled from sea, why would you want to skip part of that, making your simulation unrealistic?
As a conservative, I'll agree with the gist of your message. As an American (I'm assuming from your comment that you are as well), I wish you and everyone else, would stick to discussing the topic instead of name ("libtards") calling. It doesn't help anything and your comment gets dismissed by anyone who already doesn't agree with you....read "makes no progress".
Your examples of the idea are all fine and dandy, except that it doesn't work unless you're in control, and you'd need be be in control everywhere, locally dictating building codes. The implication of your original post was that home inspections, sanitation requirements, and electrical hookups had "nothing to do with your safety or health". And this is where your argument fails, unless all of those who are in charge are part of the vast, cross party plot.
I think that I can speak for all married men when I say that we prefer our "man caves" or garages. The rest of the house belongs to the woman (at least in the U.S....yes, we have no balls here, she keeps them in her purse).
We should leave them be with the warning that the next attack will be the last thing they do as a people.
Okay, and what exactly would you propose to do if they did attack us? Even at best (worst?), nuking the whole country would be difficult with all of those mountains, and that will never happen. There hasn't been a successful US war since WWII, and both Germany and Japan required many years of nation building after that. We're still in both of those...how many years of occupation was it before they really were our allies? No war is complete until the enemy is wiped out, or you've become friendly.
The whole reason that Iran and North Korea even began pursuing nuclear weapons is because of that incredibly stupid "Axis of Evil" speech that George Bush made in 2003.
You can blame a lot of shit on Bush, but this isn't one of them. While they didn't do their first test until 2006, it was in development long before that. North Korea had taken aggressive actions many times for many years prior to that. And while I could say "trust me, I lived there (South Korea) for six years in the 80s and 90s", I'd encourage you to do a bit of your own investigation before posting incorrect info again. As for Iran, there is no direct linkage to the Bush speech and conflicting information as to the precise start of their program as can be see on Wikipedia.
I honestly don't know if it was bunk or not, but it was very widely reported, and on the first two pages of my google search, only that salon article claims it was false.
Anyone who's spent significant time working around the federal government knows that they keep old equipment around much longer than anyone would expect. Simple example, In the '80s, I worked on an Air Force system that still had a punch card reader. It's not uncommon to find this kind of silliness even today. Reminds me of the cassette player on my new '03 Infiniti...needed that like tits on a bull.
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I've gotta ask. How do they force them to work? What prevents them from all calling in sick?
...so can't tell the difference between an airplane and a planet despite being well experienced to tell the difference when awake.
I don't know about you, but I have a pilots license, and will tell you that lights directly in front of you, not moving up, down or at any angle generally indicate you're going head on into oncoming traffic.
My kingdom for a mod point.
Please post your childish off-topic comments somewhere else.
The best things you can do, over all, are invest during the good times so that the bad times aren't has bad as they could be.
Maybe you meant it differently, but I'm a believer in investing during the bad times. Then, you get to ride the market as things get better. If you invest during the good times, you lose that investment as the economy/market turns downward.
Hydro with proper zoning and planning is perfectly save even when it fails.
112 people around Boulder City, Nevada might disagree if they could...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoover_Dam#Construction_deaths
You are full of crap related to noise of modern dishwashers - they don't have much.
We have a 5 yr old GE in our kitchen, and when it's on, I have to crank up the TV in the family room ~30ft away. You know jack about all "modern dishwashers", so please stop spewing that BS.
I'm in no way trying to defend TSA, so I think we can skip that argument. Do we need some kind of airport security? Certainly, just not the theater we have today.
I was reacting to your blaming TSA for this incident, which appears to me (having not read TFA) to have no real reason to point the finger at them. Yes, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
So let me get this straight. Terrorists would leave a "device" on a plane so that it detonates once the plane is on the ground, there is little fuel left, and all the passengers were off?
Okay, you tried, but failed. Planes get refueled and reloaded. As for "Worst Terrorists Ever", there are plenty of stupid criminals (Shoe Bomber ring a bell?). So, you can't make assumptions about any item left behind. The military typically blows up things that are found on bases around the world, and has at least as far back as when I was in the AF (1970s).
While the anecdote was cute, it doesn't dictate what policy is, or should be. If a suspicious item is found, then yes the people responsible should be handcuffed until such time as it is clear that there is no threat. That's SOP for most law enforcement.
And, in response to your follow up post, not everyone is a suicide bomber.
I think the fact that it was *left* on the plane means that someone in the TSA already decided it was ok to be on the plane in the first place.
You and so many others here are making that judgement call. If we were talking about computer security, and a hacker had gotten into your PC, would you say that your firewall failed? This is why there are layers in all kinds of security, and none are 100% effective, or we'd only need one. What if the flight had originated outside the US...should they have reacted differently, because TSA wasn't there to scan everything that went on board? No, when you see something suspicious, you act, and that's what happened here. Yes, we all love to hate the TSA (myself included), but you're barking up the wrong tree.
That seems like what is supposed to happen.
Including being led away in handcuffs?
Until the device is correctly identified as not being a threat, yes. That's simple SOP in any security organization. There are many things to hate about TSA. This isn't one of them.
It means that the majority think that what you wrote is dumb, uninformed or stupid. Yes, this is a vague judgment. Get over it.
That would be better than what we have currently, if only it was true. Right now, it only takes the first one or two moderators (not a majority) to hammer your post into obscurity. If you're lucky, it might be fixed by meta-moderation, but doubtful that anyone would see it by then. I don't know that there's a better way, but certainly many perfectly good posts get trampled on by those not willing to accept that there might be a valid opposing view.
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Also, if there's something *continually* spitting out debris or something similar, tracking it down to stop it would be important.
That "something" is called man.
What, fish don't shit in the sea?
They are implying that you are controlling the drone from a boat on the sea. Thus you would get sea-sick.
Interesting, but that would be a bad assumption considering the ability of many drones to be controlled at great distance (from land) for many hours. And, even if they were controlled from sea, why would you want to skip part of that, making your simulation unrealistic?
As a conservative, I'll agree with the gist of your message. As an American (I'm assuming from your comment that you are as well), I wish you and everyone else, would stick to discussing the topic instead of name ("libtards") calling. It doesn't help anything and your comment gets dismissed by anyone who already doesn't agree with you....read "makes no progress".
Your examples of the idea are all fine and dandy, except that it doesn't work unless you're in control, and you'd need be be in control everywhere, locally dictating building codes. The implication of your original post was that home inspections, sanitation requirements, and electrical hookups had "nothing to do with your safety or health". And this is where your argument fails, unless all of those who are in charge are part of the vast, cross party plot.
Right, because there's a huge secret government conspiracy, that goes down to the local level, and has existed for a couple hundred years....riiiight.
I was about to say "if the shoe fits", but then they're shoeless.
The Air Force did it in Cheyenne Mountain. No reason you couldn't put a building inside of your cave on springs.
http://justpiper.com/survival/nine-best-u-s-places-to-survive-the-apocalypse/
I think that I can speak for all married men when I say that we prefer our "man caves" or garages. The rest of the house belongs to the woman (at least in the U.S....yes, we have no balls here, she keeps them in her purse).
Queue obligatory GEICO commercial...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5JV0Fs_GE8
We should leave them be with the warning that the next attack will be the last thing they do as a people.
Okay, and what exactly would you propose to do if they did attack us? Even at best (worst?), nuking the whole country would be difficult with all of those mountains, and that will never happen. There hasn't been a successful US war since WWII, and both Germany and Japan required many years of nation building after that. We're still in both of those...how many years of occupation was it before they really were our allies? No war is complete until the enemy is wiped out, or you've become friendly.
The whole reason that Iran and North Korea even began pursuing nuclear weapons is because of that incredibly stupid "Axis of Evil" speech that George Bush made in 2003.
You can blame a lot of shit on Bush, but this isn't one of them. While they didn't do their first test until 2006, it was in development long before that. North Korea had taken aggressive actions many times for many years prior to that. And while I could say "trust me, I lived there (South Korea) for six years in the 80s and 90s", I'd encourage you to do a bit of your own investigation before posting incorrect info again. As for Iran, there is no direct linkage to the Bush speech and conflicting information as to the precise start of their program as can be see on Wikipedia.
Actually, they probably would. The FTC would come down on them hard for anticompetitive acquisitions
Oh, you mean like they did with Sirius and XM, the massive merger of news companies, and how many options do we have for cellphones service providers?
I honestly don't know if it was bunk or not, but it was very widely reported, and on the first two pages of my google search, only that salon article claims it was false.
Anyone who's spent significant time working around the federal government knows that they keep old equipment around much longer than anyone would expect. Simple example, In the '80s, I worked on an Air Force system that still had a punch card reader. It's not uncommon to find this kind of silliness even today. Reminds me of the cassette player on my new '03 Infiniti...needed that like tits on a bull.