And portraying a cracker-program as an "open-source effort"
But it is an open source effort. It meets the definition of open source. Why would it not be worthy of that title just because it bypasses some DRM?
In fall of 1999 when a few open source DVD projects (LiViD for one, I believe) received DMCA cease & desisit letters noone was saying "they bypass DRM, so they're cracker programs, not open-source efforts and thus not worthy of our sympathy".
playfair makes it easier to play legally purchased music on non-iTunes supported platforms as well as making it easier to throw them on p2p (not that either activity was impossible before this program)... insert crowbar analogy here.
Why the hell are you sharing a mail queue? It's not like more than one server can send the message at a time, or receive it. And postfix supports NFS mailboxes just fine.
One server, one message? We're talking hundreds of thousands of messages per day spread out over dozens of individual mail systems. There are no local mailboxes -- this is strictly a relaying system.
What's the advantage of having one queue shared among all the servers instead of multiple queues?
Lumpy, I doubt you actually "legally own" much software at all.
Sure he does. He purchased copies of copyrighted works. He owns those copies. He doesn't need a license to use something he owns already. And he doesn't need anyone else's permission to modify his property to his liking. And he doesn't need to agree to any special conditions to use his property either.
The license that is sprung upon you on installation is as valueable as used toilet paper. You've already purchased the copy. It is already your property.
I mean how fast is the getty on your console set? (I'll tip you off: the default is usually 38400.)
The modem may have more than 38.4kpbs throughput, but the point is the latency. If you're working on a directly connected terminal at 38.4 kpbs, a single character takes practicaly no time to appear on the screen. On a dialup, it takes around 1/10th of a second or more for a single character sent from the remote host to appear on your terminal.
Yeah with those gays getting married, suddenly all these straight marriages are failing left and right. What a mess!
shapping society into their whims
Yeah. The conservatives have never ever done that. The religous right in particular is completely against the concept of shaping anyone to their whims.
legalizing drug
Yeah, those evil potsmokers... wrecking the private lives of everyone else. Mass chaos and destruction abound.
loose morals
Yeah, conseratives would never do something completely immoral, like, say, lie to start a war based on ulterior motives. Never.
individualism over the benefit of the majority
Yep. Now that's a completely unamerican concept if I've ever heard it. We need to return this country to its original ideals of things like blind and complete allegiance to our leaders and complete subordination of individal liberty.
To ensure their users have the right to redistribute? Because they don't know what they're doing? No idea... the vast majority of GPLed software does not require any agreement for use.
Modification is creating a derivative work, and that is the subject of copyright legislation. The same argument applies to compilation. Installation is trivially copying.
You can modify a copyrighted work all you want if you don't distribute the result. DVD players which censor movies were considered legal... there was a story about that on slashdot I believe.
Compilation and Installation, well, it is obvious that if you were legally given a copy of a copyrighted piece of software the author/copyright holder intended for you to compile and install it.
not according to many court rulings that allowed for EULAs and stuff to actually exist. Some lawyer back in the 80s actually convinced a judge that copying from the original media into memory is a licensable copying and not fair use. How else do you think EULAs and such work?
Interesting... do you have a link to this or any of these many court rulings?
If I want to release my code under a license that says you must do 50 jumping jacks before you can modify/compile/install/distribute it, why can't I?
Because a license is founded in copyright, and copyright isn't about placing restrictions on modifying, compiling or installing. It is about placing restrictions on copying things.
The GPL is a license to copy and use software that's copyrighted.
Actually the GPL does not govern use at all. It is assumed that you obtained the copy legally. If you didn't, it is the fault of the distributor who made the illegal copy, not the person using it.
Contrary to what many commercial software vendors would have you think, a copyright only restricts the ability to make copies, not use them.
That's also why you do not need to accept the terms of the GPL to use any GPLed software.
What law defines this concept of 'intellectual property'? The term 'intellectual property' (like EULAs) is an invention of corporate america*.
Copyrights and patents are rights, not property. They cannot be 'stolen' any more than one's right to a trial by jury can.
*: Ironicly, even corporate america doesn't really believe intellectual things are property, since they usually believe they should have control over something after they've sold it to someone else.
No, it's not "your music." You have certain limitations on what you can do with it, like it or not, because you bought it from Apple with those limitations.
Is there some sort of agreement that apple has with its customers that says that the music they purchase remains the property of someone else even after they paid for it?
My toyota has certain limitaions on what I can do with it. It can't go 200 miles per hour. But I could modify it to do so... because it is my property.
And so we come to the nightmare scenario. A relatively benign parasite has infiltrated the general population and suddenly a very "hot" parasite discovers how to piggy-back that infection. In the blink of an eye - a day, an hour - 50% of Windows PCs around the world are destroyed. It can happen, and therefore, it most probably will.
Well I wish someone would hurry up and write such a virus already. I'm really tired of getting 50+ false bounces a day for infected mail that someone else sent and spoofed me on. I'm also tired of the hundreds of spam messages hitting my server from all those zombie broadband machines.
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But it is an open source effort. It meets the definition of open source. Why would it not be worthy of that title just because it bypasses some DRM?
In fall of 1999 when a few open source DVD projects (LiViD for one, I believe) received DMCA cease & desisit letters noone was saying "they bypass DRM, so they're cracker programs, not open-source efforts and thus not worthy of our sympathy".
playfair makes it easier to play legally purchased music on non-iTunes supported platforms as well as making it easier to throw them on p2p (not that either activity was impossible before this program)... insert crowbar analogy here.
What's the advantage of having one queue shared among all the servers instead of multiple queues?
Lumpy, I doubt you actually "legally own" much software at all.
Sure he does. He purchased copies of copyrighted works. He owns those copies. He doesn't need a license to use something he owns already. And he doesn't need anyone else's permission to modify his property to his liking. And he doesn't need to agree to any special conditions to use his property either.
The license that is sprung upon you on installation is as valueable as used toilet paper. You've already purchased the copy. It is already your property.
TCP on IPv6 is the same as it is on IPv4.
I mean how fast is the getty on your console set? (I'll tip you off: the default is usually 38400.)
The modem may have more than 38.4kpbs throughput, but the point is the latency. If you're working on a directly connected terminal at 38.4 kpbs, a single character takes practicaly no time to appear on the screen. On a dialup, it takes around 1/10th of a second or more for a single character sent from the remote host to appear on your terminal.
Destruction of marriage
Yeah with those gays getting married, suddenly all these straight marriages are failing left and right. What a mess!
shapping society into their whims
Yeah. The conservatives have never ever done that. The religous right in particular is completely against the concept of shaping anyone to their whims.
legalizing drug
Yeah, those evil potsmokers... wrecking the private lives of everyone else. Mass chaos and destruction abound.
loose morals
Yeah, conseratives would never do something completely immoral, like, say, lie to start a war based on ulterior motives. Never.
individualism over the benefit of the majority
Yep. Now that's a completely unamerican concept if I've ever heard it. We need to return this country to its original ideals of things like blind and complete allegiance to our leaders and complete subordination of individal liberty.
To ensure their users have the right to redistribute? Because they don't know what they're doing? No idea... the vast majority of GPLed software does not require any agreement for use.
You can modify a copyrighted work all you want if you don't distribute the result. DVD players which censor movies were considered legal... there was a story about that on slashdot I believe.
Compilation and Installation, well, it is obvious that if you were legally given a copy of a copyrighted piece of software the author/copyright holder intended for you to compile and install it.
All of these could be considered fair use anyway.
Interesting... do you have a link to this or any of these many court rulings?
Copies like that are fair use.
Well, libraries are meant to be incorporated (in some form or another) into other programs which will presumably be distributed.
I guess I should say that by 'use' I mean an activity which doesn't in any way involve distributing copies of the work in question.
Because a license is founded in copyright, and copyright isn't about placing restrictions on modifying, compiling or installing. It is about placing restrictions on copying things.
No, copyright law is what restricts your rights. The GPL lifts some (not all) of the restrictions imposed on you by copyright law.
Actually the GPL does not govern use at all. It is assumed that you obtained the copy legally. If you didn't, it is the fault of the distributor who made the illegal copy, not the person using it.
Contrary to what many commercial software vendors would have you think, a copyright only restricts the ability to make copies, not use them.
That's also why you do not need to accept the terms of the GPL to use any GPLed software.
No, actually I just used it the right way. Contrats.
What law defines this concept of 'intellectual property'? The term 'intellectual property' (like EULAs) is an invention of corporate america*.
Copyrights and patents are rights, not property. They cannot be 'stolen' any more than one's right to a trial by jury can.
*: Ironicly, even corporate america doesn't really believe intellectual things are property, since they usually believe they should have control over something after they've sold it to someone else.
orders of magnitude more over 90.
God I love it when people use the term 'orders of magnitude' and have no idea what the hell they're talking about.
So are we talking 900 or 9000 years or more here? Or were you in base2 and meant 180 or 360 years?
To take (the property of another) without right or permission.
copyrighted works are not property.
The Knoppix release I used last July had support for my wireless NIC (Orinoco)
Is that orinoco silver (model nos 8410-WD or 8420-WD)?
What's the connection between generating your own power and growing your own drugs?
Correct, I didn't.
If I were leasing it that would be a different story though.
Is there some sort of agreement that apple has with its customers that says that the music they purchase remains the property of someone else even after they paid for it?
My toyota has certain limitaions on what I can do with it. It can't go 200 miles per hour. But I could modify it to do so... because it is my property.
How exactly would OpenSSH, OpenSSL and xntpd 'infect' anything anyway?
There's also tcptrack, which also fills this niche. It displays TCP Connections in real time...
Well I wish someone would hurry up and write such a virus already. I'm really tired of getting 50+ false bounces a day for infected mail that someone else sent and spoofed me on. I'm also tired of the hundreds of spam messages hitting my server from all those zombie broadband machines.