Its not a contract, its a EULA, and EULAs are meaningless drivel, with no legal bearing, that manufacturers use to scare ignorant people away from exercising their rights.
EULAs are meaningless drivel because you're asked to agree to them after you already own the product they pertain to. You don't need to agree to anything to use your own property.
I assume Apple's iTMS agreement is put forth before they take your money and before they give you music. That puts it in a much better position compared to EULAs.
Now wether or not a clickthru contract is legally binding is certainly debatable, but that's a whole different issue.
Well, no. He didn't ask for you to copy the web page; he asked for you to extract a list of filenames for the page and process that.
No, that isn't what he said. He said:
If I want to copy a list of filenames from the web browser
Which I can only assume to mean that there's a list of filenames in a page being viewed in the browser.
On the other hand, how about opening an Excel (or compatible) spreadsheet, extracting all of the URLS from each row where the date in the third column is less than one week old, getting the named graphics from those URLs, processing those graphics in Photoshop (or Gimp, if you like), inserting the graphics at the proper place in a PDF document, and uploading the PDF document to the proper place on a web server? Care to script that one for me?
No. I don't know what methods are available to access data in a spreadsheet or how to script Gimp or how to insert graphics into postscript, but the other people who replied to your post apparently do.
If I want to copy a list of filenames from the web browser to the clipboard, and then feed them to a command line ZIP compressor, and then burn that ZIP to a CD, could I do all that easily using sh/csh/bash?
Actually, that IS supposed to be part of the contest. They explain carefully how the scoring works, and even point out that this means it's best to identify those problems you think are fastest and work on them first.
I know that. We knew before hand that it would be best to do the easiest ones first. What we didn't know was that this ability to identify in and of itself is a crucial skill. You shouldn't just practice solving programming problems, you should pratice identifying problems to solve.
We didn't realize before hand how hard it would be to do this and how deceptive some of the problems could be.
The ability to detect that the description of the problem is actually LYING to you, on the other hand, isn't suppossed to be part of the contest.
How did any of the descriptions of the problems actually lie? You couldn't tell what was easy or hard by the descriptions, but I don't recall any descriptions that flat out lied....
I totally agree. I was in this contest one year, and it was when it was too late that I realized that the key to being successful in this contest is having the ability to pick out the easy problems and do them first.
When we were in this my team wasted hours poking away at the hard ones first, which we didn't realize were the hardest ones there until we already wasted time on them. In the last 2 hours we finnally had working algorithms on the easiest ones, but then the bottleneck was access to the workstaion. And there's a lot of pressure in the last hour. You're trying to debug your program and get those critical points, and all around you people are cheering when they get one done, chatting, and the lab is generally very noisy and crowded. A difficult environment to work in if you find yourself scrambling at the last minute.
We practiced for this by having our coach pick out simple to moderate problems, one at a time and we did them as a team. But in retrospect this was totally not the right way to do it. What we should have done was have our coach pick out 7 problems of different difficulty, and we should have picked out the easiest one, confirmed with coach, and then just plan out a solution.
If you are a decent programmer and did well in your school's advanced structures & algrotihms class then you already have the programming skill it takes to do better than 75% of the other teams in the first competion. What matters is being able to pick out the easiest ones and do them first so you can manage your time well and not be scrambling towards the end.
No, ROOT is completely different from PREFIX. The software you install that way expects that when you run it that directory will be the filesystem root. And emerge does not check if dependancies are satisified by stuff outside that directory anyway. It is like building a whole new system in that directory.
Well not quite. emerge still has no equivalent of PREFIX= while doing a make install for a FreeBSD port... which is really nice for setting up trees of software to be shared among machines.
Thanks for the link to that tool. I will just use that. I had a hard time finding a program that can transcode from quicktime and does not suck, but this is it.
Well, yeah, HTML may have sucked in 1997... from the article:
It needs to work for my Netscape 3.04 on Win95
And WTF is this?
More sad is that flat ascii and any text editor can [have different blocks of text justified left/center/right on the same line] while HTML can't with its native tags
How the the hell do you do this with flat ascii? Pull up your text editor and start hitting space bar? And let me view this in my 1024px wide browser window... and now on my iPaq... whoops, bzzt, that idea completely did not work....
In the case of Amtrak, the government is keeping the national railroad network alive for the sake of transportation redundancy.
Huh? The government isn't keeping any national railroad network alive... the profitable and privatized freight rail industry is. Amtrack trains ride the same track as the freight trains.
Amen! I wish I were in school now rather than a few years ago. It got really annoying being put into group projects with those people who, when the prof gave an assignment that needed to be done on the Suns, would always whine and ask if they could do it in Visual studio instead because Unix Is Too Hard.
Funny, I *do* run a mail server without a static IP address. My current setup has a static backup, but previously my backup mail server was also on a dynamic IP.
Yeah you can run a mail server without properly set up DNS, but you're going to run into problems with other mail servers possibly not wanting to accept mail from you. And it is no fault of theirs. Unless your mail server's hostname is dhcp1-2-3-4.isp.net then you're not following RFC 1123. Having matched forward and reverse DNS records is just the right way to set up a network.
As other people in this thread have mentioned, not doing this is a likely indicator that the incoming message is spam coming from someone's broadband-connected windows machine.
That's a pretty big "if". While it's true, it's going to be irrelevant to someone who doen't have their own a static IP block. If your ISP isn't going to give you a static IP, they sure as hell aren't going to delegate reverse lookups.
Of course not. But if you don't have a static IP address then you aren't going to be running a mail server... at least not without the help of another mail server to act as a smart host and be an MX host for local domains.
you see, just because you have reverse entries in your own DNS servers doesn't mean that you're authoritative for those IP addresses.
If your ISP has delegated a reverse lookup zone to your DNS servers, then yes you are authoritative. That's literrally what the word authoritative means.
The ISP doesn't have to delegate anything. They could just make the change to their reverse lookup zone on your behalf either by responding to email requests or providing a web interface to do it.
How do serial numbers help customs determine when and where something was purchased? Does customs buy access to every computer manufacturer's databases of this information?
For instance I had to put up an anonymous FTP for one day. It is dumb I know, but the user needed to upload something from home, didn't know their home IP off hand and didn't understand log ons and that stuff from the FTP end. SO I did it, I allowed anonymous upload to my FTP, and guess what i got, undeletable folders in my ftp folder, so that some guy could use me as a mirror for files on his warez site.
Why didn't you set your FTP service up the right way? IE:
The anonymous user can write to the incoming directory and only the incoming directory
The anonymous user cannot do a directory listing on the incoming directory or change to any directory inside incoming
The anonymous user cannot read any files in the incoming directory, no matter what the underlying filesystem permissions are.
You can develop for both.. my point is that sometimes you come down to a choice between having something (IE only) or not (everything else).
The point is you don't develop for "both", you develop for the only thing you should be developing for: standard HTML. From there, you scale back your usage of the standard until what you're writing is supported by all the common browsers.
we do not get ownership, rather a license agreement
That's what the commercial software industry would like you to think, but it simply isn't true.
If you go and buy a commercial program, you give money and get the software. For all intents and purposes you now own a copy of a copyrighted work. There were no contracts or agreements. They can try and spring one on you after the fact, but it doesn't matter... you already own a copy. You don't have to agree to anything to use something you already own.
It should be responibility of the consumer to buy American-produced products, not for the government to control whether we can decide who we hire or not, or where.
Vote with your dollar, but don't let the government have more power to control us.
I agree with that in principle. But have you ever tried looking to purchase textiles that are still made in the USA?
It is a good idea to vote with your dollars, but what do you do when all available products are made overseas?
What does the (insert Blizzard's game name here) end user license agreement say you can and can't do? I admit I haven't read mine in a while, but I suspect there's a clause forbidding you from doing the above.
In our capitalistic system, dollars vote. (How literal that is depends on how cynical you are.) If Blizzard's EULA forbids you from doing something you think you should be able to do, instead buy the product of a company that doesn't. That's your choice.
You don't have to agree to any EULAs to own a copy of a blizzard game. You can go to a store, hand them your money and they'll hand you a copy of the game with no contracts signed. It is your copy of a copyrighted work, and you're free to do whatever you want with it to the extent of copyright law.
Blizzard can ask you to enter an agreement after you already own it, but that has no more impact on anything than if you went out and bought a Ford car and a month later Ford sent you a contract in the mail and asked you to sign it. You can sign it, not sign it, eat it, whatever. It is still your car.
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Its not a contract, its a EULA, and EULAs are meaningless drivel, with no legal bearing, that manufacturers use to scare ignorant people away from exercising their rights.
EULAs are meaningless drivel because you're asked to agree to them after you already own the product they pertain to. You don't need to agree to anything to use your own property.
I assume Apple's iTMS agreement is put forth before they take your money and before they give you music. That puts it in a much better position compared to EULAs.
Now wether or not a clickthru contract is legally binding is certainly debatable, but that's a whole different issue.
Well, no. He didn't ask for you to copy the web page; he asked for you to extract a list of filenames for the page and process that.
No, that isn't what he said. He said:
If I want to copy a list of filenames from the web browser
Which I can only assume to mean that there's a list of filenames in a page being viewed in the browser.
On the other hand, how about opening an Excel (or compatible) spreadsheet, extracting all of the URLS from each row where the date in the third column is less than one week old, getting the named graphics from those URLs, processing those graphics in Photoshop (or Gimp, if you like), inserting the graphics at the proper place in a PDF document, and uploading the PDF document to the proper place on a web server? Care to script that one for me?
No. I don't know what methods are available to access data in a spreadsheet or how to script Gimp or how to insert graphics into postscript, but the other people who replied to your post apparently do.
Well, yes...
Actually, that IS supposed to be part of the contest. They explain carefully how the scoring works, and even point out that this means it's best to identify those problems you think are fastest and work on them first.
I know that. We knew before hand that it would be best to do the easiest ones first. What we didn't know was that this ability to identify in and of itself is a crucial skill. You shouldn't just practice solving programming problems, you should pratice identifying problems to solve.
We didn't realize before hand how hard it would be to do this and how deceptive some of the problems could be.
The ability to detect that the description of the problem is actually LYING to you, on the other hand, isn't suppossed to be part of the contest.
How did any of the descriptions of the problems actually lie? You couldn't tell what was easy or hard by the descriptions, but I don't recall any descriptions that flat out lied....
I totally agree. I was in this contest one year, and it was when it was too late that I realized that the key to being successful in this contest is having the ability to pick out the easy problems and do them first.
When we were in this my team wasted hours poking away at the hard ones first, which we didn't realize were the hardest ones there until we already wasted time on them. In the last 2 hours we finnally had working algorithms on the easiest ones, but then the bottleneck was access to the workstaion. And there's a lot of pressure in the last hour. You're trying to debug your program and get those critical points, and all around you people are cheering when they get one done, chatting, and the lab is generally very noisy and crowded. A difficult environment to work in if you find yourself scrambling at the last minute.
We practiced for this by having our coach pick out simple to moderate problems, one at a time and we did them as a team. But in retrospect this was totally not the right way to do it. What we should have done was have our coach pick out 7 problems of different difficulty, and we should have picked out the easiest one, confirmed with coach, and then just plan out a solution.
If you are a decent programmer and did well in your school's advanced structures & algrotihms class then you already have the programming skill it takes to do better than 75% of the other teams in the first competion. What matters is being able to pick out the easiest ones and do them first so you can manage your time well and not be scrambling towards the end.
No, ROOT is completely different from PREFIX. The software you install that way expects that when you run it that directory will be the filesystem root. And emerge does not check if dependancies are satisified by stuff outside that directory anyway. It is like building a whole new system in that directory.
And the worst too. I tried gentoo for a week and in that time emerge failed two or three times due to failed compiles.
And you can't set a different install prefix for your packages, like many binary packages on other systems.
Well not quite. emerge still has no equivalent of PREFIX= while doing a make install for a FreeBSD port... which is really nice for setting up trees of software to be shared among machines.
Thanks for the link to that tool. I will just use that. I had a hard time finding a program that can transcode from quicktime and does not suck, but this is it.
And WTF is this?
How the the hell do you do this with flat ascii? Pull up your text editor and start hitting space bar? And let me view this in my 1024px wide browser window... and now on my iPaq... whoops, bzzt, that idea completely did not work....
Any way I could get those divx files off you? I hate quicktime.
Huh? The government isn't keeping any national railroad network alive... the profitable and privatized freight rail industry is. Amtrack trains ride the same track as the freight trains.
Write a really k-rad piece of software
Wow... 'k-rad'... it has been like 10 years since I've heard that word... memories...
Amen! I wish I were in school now rather than a few years ago. It got really annoying being put into group projects with those people who, when the prof gave an assignment that needed to be done on the Suns, would always whine and ask if they could do it in Visual studio instead because Unix Is Too Hard.
Yeah you can run a mail server without properly set up DNS, but you're going to run into problems with other mail servers possibly not wanting to accept mail from you. And it is no fault of theirs. Unless your mail server's hostname is dhcp1-2-3-4.isp.net then you're not following RFC 1123. Having matched forward and reverse DNS records is just the right way to set up a network.
As other people in this thread have mentioned, not doing this is a likely indicator that the incoming message is spam coming from someone's broadband-connected windows machine.
Of course not. But if you don't have a static IP address then you aren't going to be running a mail server... at least not without the help of another mail server to act as a smart host and be an MX host for local domains.
If your ISP has delegated a reverse lookup zone to your DNS servers, then yes you are authoritative. That's literrally what the word authoritative means.
The ISP doesn't have to delegate anything. They could just make the change to their reverse lookup zone on your behalf either by responding to email requests or providing a web interface to do it.
Every host on your networks should have reverse DNS entries... that's just the competent way to run a network.
Trouble is those things come with serial numbers
How do serial numbers help customs determine when and where something was purchased? Does customs buy access to every computer manufacturer's databases of this information?
Why didn't you set your FTP service up the right way? IE:
The point is you don't develop for "both", you develop for the only thing you should be developing for: standard HTML. From there, you scale back your usage of the standard until what you're writing is supported by all the common browsers.
we do not get ownership, rather a license agreement
That's what the commercial software industry would like you to think, but it simply isn't true.
If you go and buy a commercial program, you give money and get the software. For all intents and purposes you now own a copy of a copyrighted work. There were no contracts or agreements. They can try and spring one on you after the fact, but it doesn't matter... you already own a copy. You don't have to agree to anything to use something you already own.
It should be responibility of the consumer to buy American-produced products, not for the government to control whether we can decide who we hire or not, or where.
Vote with your dollar, but don't let the government have more power to control us.
I agree with that in principle. But have you ever tried looking to purchase textiles that are still made in the USA?
It is a good idea to vote with your dollars, but what do you do when all available products are made overseas?
What does the (insert Blizzard's game name here) end user license agreement say you can and can't do? I admit I haven't read mine in a while, but I suspect there's a clause forbidding you from doing the above.
In our capitalistic system, dollars vote. (How literal that is depends on how cynical you are.) If Blizzard's EULA forbids you from doing something you think you should be able to do, instead buy the product of a company that doesn't. That's your choice.
You don't have to agree to any EULAs to own a copy of a blizzard game. You can go to a store, hand them your money and they'll hand you a copy of the game with no contracts signed. It is your copy of a copyrighted work, and you're free to do whatever you want with it to the extent of copyright law.
Blizzard can ask you to enter an agreement after you already own it, but that has no more impact on anything than if you went out and bought a Ford car and a month later Ford sent you a contract in the mail and asked you to sign it. You can sign it, not sign it, eat it, whatever. It is still your car.