I thought it was kinda sucky (it only grabbed one list, and didn't change it, and if I backspaced over what I had typed, I had to refresh), but then I opened it in IE (shudder) instead of Opera (I really need to put Firefox on here - it's 7.6P4c, but still, there's a lot of stuff that doesn't work that well, like XMLHttpRequest).
Nah, even though Sprint has bad CS, it's Nextel I'm worried about. It doesn't matter if they've got the furthest reaching signals if they don't even have towers up in an area. Also, while we've had trouble with Sprint CS, Nextel's screwed us over, so they're on the blacklist (the same one AT&T got put on before Cingular bought them out).
I think Sprint wants Nextel's customer base, and maybe some help with their Ready Link feature (their version of Direct Connect). They've got the business features, and the phones.
Well, I remember a study that said ANALOG phones caused cancer, but I forget where it was, and I'm a bit skeptical about it. It also didn't mention digital phones (and one that does needs to mention each GSM and CDMA freq.)
It's Lenovo ThinkPad X69;-) (ultra-portable, goes anywhere, works hard, you get the picture - oh, and the Lenovo thing is because they're buying IBM's PC line, from what I've heard)
Actually, I forgot, a friend of mine has it right now. Sorry, not for sale.
However, if you want decent performance along with sperm-killing ability (not as good as a P4EE or Prescott, though), go for something with an Athlon 64 DTR (the mobile's for pussies - it's not too much hotter than a Pentium M). Basically, it's a desktop A64 without a heatspreader.
Go for the 12" (has heat problems, but the 17" has more area for the heat to spread in than the 15"), or better yet, something with a P4EE or a Prescott (desktop CPU, FWIW).
Or, just get my Toshiba Satellite Pro 405CS. Pentium 75, so it's cheap, and it's fucking HOT (I think it's the fact that the HDD is between the keyboard and the battery...)
That's what I thought, too, but it's simply a new trick for the HTTP dog, involving P2P. This Dijjer thing appears to run as a server, and you simply request a URL (by placing it after your personal Dijjer server's address), and it gets it from peers instead of the site. Pretty neat, if you ask me.
Actually, that's kinda what I was thinking - rather than BitTorrent over RSS (well, not OVER, but the files will be listed on the feed), RSS over BitTorrent. Just grab slashdot.rdf.torrent, DL it, and load it.
This wouldn't be used for servicing older machines, this'd be used when all I've got is my JumpDrive (no CD on me) and I need to do a quick ememrgency boot on a system that has USB boot.
I'm pretty sure Windows 3.0 could multitask on an 8088. I guess I'll have to fire up Virtual PC, find a copy of DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.0 online, and take it for a spin with "win/r", and then find some Windows 3.0 stuff that will use the processor (maybe find VB1.0, and whip up an app that says a number of iterations in a loop, then calculate the number of iterations in one second, and (with it in view, so I can see) switch to Program Manager). Basically, I need something that quite obviously changes constantly, and will run in Windows 3.0 Real Mode.
I can sorta see what the troll hsa to say, though. OOo is... lacking in some areas (primarily MS Office compatibility, but UI and speed (esp. on Linux, where it's the only complete game in town) suck too). I'll admit, I just switched to (a not-so-legal copy of) Office 2003 (yeah, yeah, I know) from OOo 1.1.2.
There are areas where OOo just BLOWS MS Office away - open file format, open code, little to no security risks, smaller size, legally free, etc., etc. However, it's also lacking whole apps that Office has. I use Publisher every day. Where's the Win32 OSS equivalent to that? I use Access, and need a program that can handle it's filetype. Where's that? I use FrontPage (don't laugh). Yes, there's nVu, but that's pretty buggy, in my experience.
I'll admit, I'm impressed with OOo, but I use Office because OOo doesn't satisfy my needs. I'd recommend OOo in a heartbeat if one doesn't need everything Office offers, though.
FWIW, Tualatin is mainly voltage changes, as far as I can tell. You can use an adaptor to use it on boards that don't support the new incompatible bus protocol.
Also, I thought (for some reason) that PPro was.65...
I'm not saying that 186 PCs didn't exist, I've just heard that they were a total BITCH to engineer because of the way the 186 worked. The 286 apparently fell back somewhat on the changes so that it worked with the PC architecture, or they finally figured out how to get the PC arch working with the changes, or something like that.
IBM never made the 8088 - back in the day, their fabs were used for mainframe chips.
Intel made the 8088. Harris, AMD, and NEC were second-sourcers (there were others). Yes, THAT AMD. AMD and Harris went on to second source the 286 (and got it to 20 and 25MHz, respectively - as opposed to Intel's 16MHz), and AMD fought Intel for the right to second source the 386 (Harris was sick of making Intel's chips, I guess) - after that, it was AMD (or NexGen) design (although before the K6, they used large portions of Intel's 386 design, which they were allowed to use).
Maybe they're still around, or, from what I heard, a faster FSB consumes more power (at least on the P-M, which jumps to 27W on a 533 (133) FSB, and it's a P6 also), and more power consumption is NOT something one would want in embedded.
My money's on they've been phased out a LONG time ago.
Also, (flame me if you like - OT part begins here), I marked you as a foe just now. Nothing personal, I just do that with all free X sigs and all who have a shock site as their web site or in their sig.
250 or 350nm, I'm sure (depends on the core). They have to do some redesigning (not much, though, but it does cost money) to do a process shrink, so I don't think they'd bother.
A P3 KATMAI is basically a process shrink of the P2, with SSE (and that damn Processor Serial Number) added. However, Coppermine and Tualatin ARE different.
That said, there's not much difference between the Pentium Pro, the P2, and ANY of the P3 cores. The P-M is the first P6 (read: Pentium Pro-based) chip to have a design that's got more than small tweaks here and there.
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I thought it was kinda sucky (it only grabbed one list, and didn't change it, and if I backspaced over what I had typed, I had to refresh), but then I opened it in IE (shudder) instead of Opera (I really need to put Firefox on here - it's 7.6P4c, but still, there's a lot of stuff that doesn't work that well, like XMLHttpRequest).
FWIW, XMLHttpRequest is NOT supported by Opera 7.5x. 7.6 supports it, but it's still in Preview (read: alpha).
Nah, even though Sprint has bad CS, it's Nextel I'm worried about. It doesn't matter if they've got the furthest reaching signals if they don't even have towers up in an area. Also, while we've had trouble with Sprint CS, Nextel's screwed us over, so they're on the blacklist (the same one AT&T got put on before Cingular bought them out).
I think Sprint wants Nextel's customer base, and maybe some help with their Ready Link feature (their version of Direct Connect). They've got the business features, and the phones.
Quadratic formula programs? How'd you deal with i? AFAIK, TI-BASIC has no exception handling whatsoever except for throwing an error message up...
Well, I remember a study that said ANALOG phones caused cancer, but I forget where it was, and I'm a bit skeptical about it. It also didn't mention digital phones (and one that does needs to mention each GSM and CDMA freq.)
It's Lenovo ThinkPad X69 ;-) (ultra-portable, goes anywhere, works hard, you get the picture - oh, and the Lenovo thing is because they're buying IBM's PC line, from what I've heard)
Actually, I forgot, a friend of mine has it right now. Sorry, not for sale.
However, if you want decent performance along with sperm-killing ability (not as good as a P4EE or Prescott, though), go for something with an Athlon 64 DTR (the mobile's for pussies - it's not too much hotter than a Pentium M). Basically, it's a desktop A64 without a heatspreader.
Go for the 12" (has heat problems, but the 17" has more area for the heat to spread in than the 15"), or better yet, something with a P4EE or a Prescott (desktop CPU, FWIW).
Or, just get my Toshiba Satellite Pro 405CS. Pentium 75, so it's cheap, and it's fucking HOT (I think it's the fact that the HDD is between the keyboard and the battery...)
Before I get flamed, I know this was a joke ;-)
That's what I thought, too, but it's simply a new trick for the HTTP dog, involving P2P. This Dijjer thing appears to run as a server, and you simply request a URL (by placing it after your personal Dijjer server's address), and it gets it from peers instead of the site. Pretty neat, if you ask me.
Actually, that's kinda what I was thinking - rather than BitTorrent over RSS (well, not OVER, but the files will be listed on the feed), RSS over BitTorrent. Just grab slashdot.rdf.torrent, DL it, and load it.
Ah, well, I need file-format compatibility for my journalism class.
386 Enhanced basically allowed Virtual Memory and DOS multitasking (SUCKY DOS multitasking, but it was there).
The old Mozilla Calendar project (which Sunbird is based on) can integrate with Mozilla, Firefox, or Thunderbird.
This wouldn't be used for servicing older machines, this'd be used when all I've got is my JumpDrive (no CD on me) and I need to do a quick ememrgency boot on a system that has USB boot.
I'm pretty sure Windows 3.0 could multitask on an 8088. I guess I'll have to fire up Virtual PC, find a copy of DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.0 online, and take it for a spin with "win /r", and then find some Windows 3.0 stuff that will use the processor (maybe find VB1.0, and whip up an app that says a number of iterations in a loop, then calculate the number of iterations in one second, and (with it in view, so I can see) switch to Program Manager). Basically, I need something that quite obviously changes constantly, and will run in Windows 3.0 Real Mode.
There were two PPro cores? What chips used the .35 core?
I can sorta see what the troll hsa to say, though. OOo is... lacking in some areas (primarily MS Office compatibility, but UI and speed (esp. on Linux, where it's the only complete game in town) suck too). I'll admit, I just switched to (a not-so-legal copy of) Office 2003 (yeah, yeah, I know) from OOo 1.1.2.
There are areas where OOo just BLOWS MS Office away - open file format, open code, little to no security risks, smaller size, legally free, etc., etc. However, it's also lacking whole apps that Office has. I use Publisher every day. Where's the Win32 OSS equivalent to that? I use Access, and need a program that can handle it's filetype. Where's that? I use FrontPage (don't laugh). Yes, there's nVu, but that's pretty buggy, in my experience.
I'll admit, I'm impressed with OOo, but I use Office because OOo doesn't satisfy my needs. I'd recommend OOo in a heartbeat if one doesn't need everything Office offers, though.
They were PRIMARILY used in embedded environments. I already said that there WERE 186 PCs (I know Tandy made one, too), just they weren't common.
Oh, and who said a pre-286 couldn't run Windows? 3.0 runs on an 8088...
Shit, I thought Deschutes was .35...
.65...
FWIW, Tualatin is mainly voltage changes, as far as I can tell. You can use an adaptor to use it on boards that don't support the new incompatible bus protocol.
Also, I thought (for some reason) that PPro was
I'm not saying that 186 PCs didn't exist, I've just heard that they were a total BITCH to engineer because of the way the 186 worked. The 286 apparently fell back somewhat on the changes so that it worked with the PC architecture, or they finally figured out how to get the PC arch working with the changes, or something like that.
IBM never made the 8088 - back in the day, their fabs were used for mainframe chips.
Intel made the 8088. Harris, AMD, and NEC were second-sourcers (there were others). Yes, THAT AMD. AMD and Harris went on to second source the 286 (and got it to 20 and 25MHz, respectively - as opposed to Intel's 16MHz), and AMD fought Intel for the right to second source the 386 (Harris was sick of making Intel's chips, I guess) - after that, it was AMD (or NexGen) design (although before the K6, they used large portions of Intel's 386 design, which they were allowed to use).
http://www.dumpinggoods.com/dumpinggoods/itemdesc. asp?CartId=8-ACCWARE-321007DVDKM267&ic=CP%2DINT%2D 0002&cc=&tpc=
$2, but then again, you'll have to pay $9 in shipping (at least to my address, that's what their P2s cost)...
Maybe they're still around, or, from what I heard, a faster FSB consumes more power (at least on the P-M, which jumps to 27W on a 533 (133) FSB, and it's a P6 also), and more power consumption is NOT something one would want in embedded.
My money's on they've been phased out a LONG time ago.
Also, (flame me if you like - OT part begins here), I marked you as a foe just now. Nothing personal, I just do that with all free X sigs and all who have a shock site as their web site or in their sig.
250 or 350nm, I'm sure (depends on the core). They have to do some redesigning (not much, though, but it does cost money) to do a process shrink, so I don't think they'd bother.
A P3 KATMAI is basically a process shrink of the P2, with SSE (and that damn Processor Serial Number) added. However, Coppermine and Tualatin ARE different.
That said, there's not much difference between the Pentium Pro, the P2, and ANY of the P3 cores. The P-M is the first P6 (read: Pentium Pro-based) chip to have a design that's got more than small tweaks here and there.