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Mozilla Thunderbird Reaches 1.0
An anonymous reader writes "Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 is now available for download on Mozilla's FTP server." Here is
the press release announcing the release. Virtual folders and RSS integration, coupled with the recent hype surrounding Firefox, might give this sucker some serious momentum.
Release notes are available here: http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/releas es/
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Mmm... since 1.0PR - new, pretty icons!
Maybe it's just my own perception, but Thunderbird seems to be a bit bulky, judging by how long it takes to open. Am I totally out of my league here, or is Thunderbird a little chunky?
There's a Mercedes gap too. I want one and can't afford one, but it's not government's job to do anything about it.
If I don't want Outlook Express, Mozilla Mail&News and Mozilla Thunderbird, what else *Open Source* e-mail clients can I choose in Windows?
Seems like a good reason to ditch my ages-old mailer (xfmail) and switch.
Or do I have to wander the maze of twisty little directories in Microsoft's "Documents and Settings" directory to find where it stores mail.
Remember, it's in "Application Data" and not "Local Settings\Application Data", and also please note all these directories for hidden for some stupid reason.
I'd be happy if I could just specify where the data is stored like most apps (even Microsoft ones).
Don't get me wrong, I love using Thunderbird and switched from Outlook shortly after I realized how deeply flawed it was (despite having a good UI and spam filtering), around version 0.5.
Anyhow, congrats to the Mozilla team for another excellent release. But please, give us some data store management.
You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
I visited the sight only 10 minutes before. It said release 1.0 and I took it to be 1.0 PR. Now the site is gonna be slashdotted ....
I'm thinking about getting a PPC, and it'd be nice to sync my mail/address book to it, but I don't want to use Outlook/OE. Anyone know of a way to make this work with Thunderbird?
Has anyone tried these? I was googling for a torrent and came across this win32 optimized version (depending on your processor).
MOOX optimized versions
NOTE: This is a third party / unofficial build.
I'm still waiting for a Firefox/Thunderbird CCK that will let me customize them in a way that would make distribution worthwhile here at work. NS through 7.1 gave us the ability to make custom accounts and mail settings before install. Yes, we use Netscape as the default browser/mail suite here. We do exist!
I wish the moz foundation would implore the popular extension makers to update their version string. If I upgrade when it comes out, I'm screwed on all my extensions. If I wait, I'm going "when can i upgrade, when can i upgrade?"
.9 for a while until the extensions are ready.
I lose either way. This time I'm going to wait instead of upgrading from
J.
You're only jealous cos the little penguins are talking to me.
And as the servers take the same hammering they took when Firefox was released, heres a torrent crafted by my own fair hands
http://www.youngerpants.com/thunderbird.torrent
Example: I want to email the all the supervisors, but do not want to type all their email addresses. Can I create a "supervisors" contact group that includes all their addresses?
What is the key it was signed with?
[siiigh]. Considering much of what a mail client does is either disk or display, and not very repetitive, processor-specific optimizations will do little to no good. Even search functions are largely disk constrained if the mailbox is big enough that search time becomes an issue on any modern system.
If it was a Pi calculator, or a game (in which a miniscule difference in per-frame loop time makes a huge difference in frame rate) I could see the point, but this is just silly
Please help metamoderate.
... That there is no short cut for viewing headers and an option so it doesn't bip on filtered emails.
A part from that, I couldn't be more satisfied=)
"My business has been cut ten fold by this communist software" say veteran spammer Ima A Shole. "I don't know how anyone expects to have free web sites if they don't let independent businessmen like me advertise porn and \/|@gr.r.r.a."
You have two hands and one brain, so always code twice as much as you think!
Really ?
And you are happy of your AOL Broadband account ?
It takes 40+ muscles to frown, but only four to extend your arm and bitchslap the motherfucker
Both browsing and email are integrated which is nice, because they are two very common applications. I don't understand the huge gains people get by using firefox and thunderbird separately.
Mozilla suite is stable and all I need, I never had a problem with it using too much memory like some people claim. I also have this bitchin faux wood theme that makes it look like its 1975.
Don't get me wrong, I like that there's more products to choose from and more competition for ms and crew, but I just don't get why mozilla suite was ignored and firefox and thunderbird are so highly regarded.
Shouldn't there be a name change at a full dot release?
:-) :-)
Ba ding.
Most Newsgroups require that a posted message be no larger than a certain size so to post large files, like mp3's, you must split them appart into several seperate posts. Without the Combine and Decode functionality you cannot put the pieces back together again.
Granted, Usenet Newsgorups have not gained as much popularity as the rest of the internet but it would still be nice to have. And until this feature is added to T-Bird, then Usenet users like myself will still be forced to use OE. Basically, why run two e-mail clients? It's not a good idea for the average user, so they are going to stick with OE.
I use Pegasus Mail (pmail.com). For all the nice features in Thunderbird, it still seems to me that Pegasus has much more powerful filtering rules. And, at least for my uses, has more features aimed at people who maintain multiple e-mail addresses.
Pegasus is free, but not open source. I urge people to compare it to Thunderbird. I've used it since 1996 and have never found a mailer I like better.
- Greg
Start a happiness pandemic
I select the subject of interest. Instead of having a "enter selection for find" command, I have to copy and paste. Fine. However, if the Find dialog is already up, when I hit ctrl-F, the text in the Find dialog isn't selected; I have to select the text, then paste my subject into the box.
Then I click the Find button. It finds the text and shows it to me at the very bottom of the window. This is so annoying that it's nearly beyond belief. I have to scroll down a bunch to see any context whatsoever.
So, my request for two enhancements:
OK, so go ahead and flame me for a) not just fixing the application myself, and b) not trying to figure out how to file my own bugs.
In my own defense, a) I have a day job and a life at night, and b) I started to file some bugs and direction number 1 was "download Mozilla and see if the same bug appears there". I don't use Mozilla, have no interest in it, and don't feel like jumping through hoops to file bugs.
OK, call me cranky. :-)
Happy Holidays!
What does this even mean? Our administration standardized on Netscape (including the old Netscape Calendar) years ago and has refused to let go. Guess what, its *still* better than IE!
Ok, Firefox appears to tbe just the web browser. I have that installed.
Now, is thunderbird just the email/newsreader, or is it the email/news/web browser all together, like netscape communicator.
And then there's Mozilla, which is at version 1.7 or so. What's up with that? Where does it stand in relation to Firefox?
Do not meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, for they are subtle, and quick to anger.
Recently my parents got an email in outlook express that will cause the program to lock up simply by clicking on the message (even with preview off). So, I'm looking to switch them to Thunderbird for a more stable and secure system. I would like to get their mail from OE into Thunderbird, but I think the mail database that OE creates might be corrupt. I'll give 1.0 a shot tonight and see how things fair.
SIGFAULT
Make Sure to check out the Optimized Builds that are available from 3rd parties.
Don't ask me why, but I like Mozilla more than Firefox. Although Mozilla takes longer to load up I like the button configuration and tabbing better.
Isn't the upgrade available part on thunderbird supposed to notify you if a new version exists? I have tried manually "Check Now" for software updates and got "no updates available." Using Thunderbird 0.9 btw. Maby they are just trying to wait for the rush to be over and turn on the notification.
Sorry, I should have said "Graphical" e-mail clients in parent. Thank you for your suggestions and it really confirms my belief: we really have no choice, except text-based and much less well-known ones. But we do have some choices for browser, though most of them are still Gecko-based.
How does one connect tbird to ms exchange?
I used to use Thunderbird, but now I just use Gmail for everything personal (we're stuck on Lookout for work).
I suppose if I needed a mail client I would still use Thunderbird though.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur.
Here in Europe, all AOL accounts use Netscape as a browser...and they use NEtscape to access AOL mail...
/.
So the fact that you use NS for web and Mail can imply you have an AOL internet account...
I agree i wasn't VERY funny, but it's not so bad considering we're on
Until I can print 15 or so contacts per sheet, I can't use it.
It's also a pain to enter phone numbers. If you type 555 5551234 and it keeps it like that. It doesn't reformat to (555)555-1234.
Until this is fixed, I wait. (BTW: there are no Contact Extensions for it...)
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wasnt the whole idea that firefox1.0 and thunderbird1.0 were to be released and distrobuted together? now they can be, and its good to see ;)
this sig no verb
Since they mised the "rc" from the end of the link here's one that worked. http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird /releases/1.0rc/
Maybe it was a deal to avoid the /. effect :)
if we're at 1.0 here and I have 0.9 - shouldn't
tools=>options=>advanced=>software update=>Check Now
return something besides
Thunderbird was not able to find any available updates
?
"Danke daß Du mich gemolken hast" said the German cow.
First off, congrats to the Mozilla Thunderbird team; I switched to Thunderbird months ago and have been EXTREMELY happy with it, with one exception. Kudos on reaching 1.0.
Now, the exception I just mentioned happens to be Palm sync capabilities. I managed to get an extension downloaded and installed a version or two ago, but the data would only sync once (changes I made later to the Visor's address book wouldn't sync to Thunderbird), and I couldn't get the extension to install properly in later versions. I can't imagine that I'm the only one who wants to sync a PalmOS-based device to Thunderbird, or that I'm the only one who's had this problem. Checking Google has been little help, either...
Again, except for this one problem, Thunderbird works great for me. Is there any idea when I can expect this one annoyance to be fixed? (Or get some confirmation I'm the only one having this issue...)
The URL in the parent message is pointing to the 0.9 release notes. Is there an update for the 1.0 release?
Lets go get a full page add barfing the success of making it past beta in only 4 years!
"I have an odd craving to whisper about those few frightful hours in that ill-rumored and evilly shadowed seaport of dea
Do you still have to create a dummy set-up in the default place before you can do this? In previous versions, it seemed to be necessary, and then you created a new profile with the data store wherever you wanted it, but it was always counter-intuitive for users and a pain for those of us hackers who wanted to shift things around until we worked out what it was doing There must be an easier way...
If you disagree, post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like.
If Evolution ends up depending on Mono, I might have to switch to Thunderbird someday. As it is, I have Vim as my editor, running via Evo's Bonobo support, which will probably be going away (maybe it already has in the current version).
I wonder how I'll get Vi editing in the brave new world of modern GUI mailers. Most likely I'll end up back on Mutt. Virtual folders are nice, though. E-mail clients still have a long way to go, for something we spend so much time using.
Portable Thunderbird 1.0 is available already at . Now that's speedy :) I finally have a use for my old 32MB usb key!
ok, firefox has this about:config. has thunderbird something similar ? some hidden creepy configuration parameters =)
Rich
That is true, it's commendable that it is the default.
However, many users don't follow Microsoft's standard here, nor do they want to. I couldn't care less where Microsoft wants to store my data, and I'm never going to use roaming profiles yada yada on my home PC.
I do, however, want all of my essential data to be stored on my RAIDed, routinely backed-up hard drive. I don't want it in a Windows-standardised yet strangely still hidden directory, which lives five levels deep on my (not backed-up) OS drive.
I think a new feature request to add a straightforward and reliable way to create the data in a non-standard place (and, equally importantly, to easily move existing data to such a place if you change your mind later) would be very popular.
If you disagree, post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like.
well I was getting 404 at the time
Can anyone tell me whether they've added any new mail filtering features to this release? That's the killer "missing feature" for 0.9 (which I installed a few days back) for me.
In particular, can you now apply rules based on message size (e.g., don't download messages >100K) or on attachment status (e.g., automatically move anything with an attachment to "suspected junk" if the sender isn't in my address book)?
I thought Moz used to have these (though possibly my memory is failing me) and I was disappointed to find that Thunderbird apparently doesn't, despite its otherwise simple-but-effective rules system.
If you disagree, post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like.
I've been looking for an ebuild for this(RC) for a few days now. Someone has to have made one by now. Anyone got a link?
I like Thunderbird, but lets face it, it's not the Firefox of email clients. If you look at the improvements of Firefox over IE, there are monumental leaps as far as features and functionality go. When you compare Thunderbird to Outlook, however, sure, it's a bit more streamlined and clean, but doesn't really offer a whole lot extra in terms of features/functionalities.
Where are the new bells and whistles that will revolutionize email clients the way Firefox did to web browsers?
"hey, could you pass me a paper towel? er.. I mean... DEPLOY ABSORBTION PANEL!"
I Googled a bit but could not find the answer to this. I just want to send encrypted mail to/from my friends. I see the place to import a PKCS#12 file in Thunderbird. So how do I make that kind of file without signing up for a cert. I want a self-signed cert. Anybody have a recipe? TIA.
I've been trying to use Thunderbird for a couple weeks and if I switch back its because thunderbird doesn't have a calendar. I still have to open outlook and leave it open if I want to be reminded about meetings and appointments.
I wouldn't say it's "still" better than IE. Yes, the current version is better than IE, but that's because Netscape is now based on Mozilla/Firefox.
Compare IE 4 to to Netscape 4.x and it's a totally different story. Before that, there *was* another time where Netscape was the better browser but they were in a pretty big slump for a while.
Sinch
...because the integration between mozilla mail and mozilla is much tighter than that between firefox and thunderbird... mozilla just simply works.
thunderfox I have to configure up to start a browser when clicking in the email client or configure to start the email client when clicking on a mailto link in a browser. yuk.
Basically the issue is that a lot of emails have incorrect date/timestamps in the header and if you order your messages by Date it sorts it by the Date Sent in the header rather than say the Date Recieved to your email server. The temporary fix (for me at least) is to order message by "order recieved" but this can create a huge mess when moving messages between folders because the moved message now has a newer "recieved" datestamp. Without using this method, all of the spam and junk emails show up throughout my inbox because the dates/times in the headers are inaccurate.
It has been reported here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21603 3
I am just assuming the developers don't know/realize why this interface issue is such a problem, but I am really hoping that someone will address it soon!
Hopefully I did a good enough job describing the problem. If you've seen it or struggled with it, you should recognize my description. Finally, I want to graciously thank everyone on the mozilla team for putting out such quality programs that I actually _can_ recommend even to people who think that IE _is_ the internet, and I am not trying to discredit the hours put in by the dev's!
Messed up the link to the bugzilla page. Here is the correct link: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21603 3
I am an idiot. Correct Link
Why does everyone think an e-mail program needs a calendar?
An e-mail program doesn't need a calendar any more than a web browser does. Nor does it need one any more than a file sharing program does.
If you want a calendar program, get a calendar program.
Mod points are pointless when you browse at -1.
Thunderbird is still not as 'simple' as FireFox to use and setup.
Account Setup
The account options are filled with a gazillion options that are confusing for a normal user - and the whole idea of one default SMTP server is pretty stupid. I find Opera's M2, Outlook and Outlook Express easer to setup and support.
Address Book
Why can't I drag & drop a card on the desktop and vica versa?! Pretty stupid. Why doesn't Thunderbird use the standard windows adress book?! No export function to the standard address book either.
Exchange & PST-Folders
Many companies would die for a proper Outlook replacement. Thunderbird is still unable to talk to an exchange server. And it still can't open PST-Files - the standard format for many business mail users.
*blink blink*
(turns around)
"I thought I saw a spam"
This being said, there aren't many open source email clients available natively on win32. However, many do work with cygwin. The *nix version of Pine (which, as above, might not be "open enough"), mutt, kmail, gnus, sylpheed and others work fine.
How does this newfangled thunderthing compare with my trusty Ximian Evolution? I'd appreciate any first-hand pointers on feature comparisons or migration notes.
I've been using Evolution as my primary mail client both at home and at work. At the office, it handles my 2-3GB mailbox pretty well (it's slower than I'd like sometimes, when getting/indexing email). Virtual folders are a godsend, it's pretty good at composing, searching, etc.
I'm pretty happy, but not ecstatic, with Evo, but there are things I think could be done better (speedier, better spam control, some rendering bugs). Is Thunderbird what I've been waiting for?
I never understood the idea of RSS integration into a mail client.. RSS is generally used to keep up with web data, so why wouldn't you have RSS built into the browser, not the mail client. RSS integration in a mail client is just bloat.
i love the ability to customize the toolbar and remove that evil "Reply All" icon :^)
Last I checked, the PST file format was still proprietary, unless you paid $SHITLOAD for a third-party library. Also last I checked, Exchange servers had two modes: POP3 and "only let Outlook talk to me," with the latter being a proprietary protocol (IMAP plus some other stuff, I'm told, but I have no interest in learning more).
Microsoft makes all their money by locking in customers to a proprietary set of programs. Why would you expect them to suddenly open them up to the world?
You cannot apply a technological solution to a sociological problem. (Edwards' Law)
I really want to use Thunderbird for my aggregator. But it still can't even import OPML!
Well, in addition to mutt, elm, gnus, and cygwin ports of KMail, Sylpheed, etc, there are a few lesser-known native open source MUAs on win32. Some are useful, some aren't:
Phoenix Mail
Mahogany
JoeEmail
Python IMAP Email Client
Does anyone know when/if TB will support multiple mailfolders? Currently you can have multiple IMAP/POP/NNTP accounts in TB, but only ONE local mailfolder (much like OE).
The default mailer I use at work is Outlook. Outlook can use multiple mailfolders (.pst files) so that I can organize the folders I want to see into groups that can be added/removed as I need them. I have YEARS worth of Email which is classed into subfolders by client name.
When using Outlook once I have a finished a contract, I can move all the Email (& multi-megabyte attached files) I have exchanged with them from my current mailfolder into another mailfolder (archives-2004) which contains all closed affairs.
Normally I keep all the old archives for prevoius years closed, but when I need to look upo an old Email, All I need to do is open the archive for that year & search in that clients subfolder.
Using multiple mail folders like this also keeps the size of my backups down as the archive mailfolders rarely change after a year or so & they do not need to be backed up as often.
I've looked at TBs roadmaps, but I've never seen any mention of going beyond one mailfolder. Is TB always destined to be a (much nicer & secure) OE clone or is there a planned update to multiple mailfolders that I missed?
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Oops--here's the link for Mahogany. Of all those I posted, it sounds like the most promising: it is being built ground-up as an IMAP client and it has Python bindings.
Coincidentally, I decided to switch to firefox+thunderbird (or, failing that, firefox+mozillamail) just last night. And they seem nice and all, but it's infuriatingly stupid that
I understand and appreciate that, unlike Windows, there's no standard *nix API for these sorts of things. But it looks like they didn't even try. (It Would Be Nice[tm] if the Debian builds of these programs taught them about /etc/alternatives; then there would be a semi-standard API.)
Yah, yah, I know, go get one of the zillion third-party extensions... Tried that. "Get extensions" is one of those links in thunderbird that did nothing.
(Other peeves: transitioning from Mozilla would be easier if they'd left the same keyboard shortcuts. And remembered window sizes.)
You cannot apply a technological solution to a sociological problem. (Edwards' Law)
I want to do a search or a custom view or a virtual folder on messages which are flagged. AFAIK this has never worked in Thunderbird. Does it work in 1.0?
This feature is not included with Firefox or Thunderbird, as it is with full Mozilla.
There is an extension that adds it back to Firefox (Thunderbird evenetually), but there are some side effects.
Agree with you regarding the lack of source code for PC-Pine. Cygwin Pine comes with source (though it isn't under an OSI-approved license).
The default mailbox format for PC-Pine is c-client MBX. This is more standard than 99.9% of the other options available under win32.
PC-Pine does support Unix mbox (as well as maildir, mtx, tenex, and mbox with CRLF instead of LF). It isn't always easy or intuitive to choose one of these alternative formats. Indeed, when I was still using Windows, I believe I might have made the mailboxes under other programs & given them to Pine to read. But it won't change the format of your mailbbox for you, so it is very possile to use unix mbox, or something else that can be grokked by more programs.
In PC-Pine's defense, cclient mbx performance is quite good.
There doesn't seem to be a version of Enigmail that works with 1.0!!! This is highly annoying! I can't read my encrypted mail until a new version is released...
How damn hard is it to not break Enigmail with every TB release? Not to whine, but come on...
"There are laws that enslave men, and laws that set them free. " - Sean Connery as King Arthur
http://jpeters.no-ip.com/extensions/index.php?page =tb_cs_changelog
This has been available for a while now.
Google is your friend.
Clearly you haven't seen the big package. 4.6GB download soon to be released under the name "Big Bird".
They ain't leavin nuthin out of that one. You won't even need an operating system to run it. It's all in the package!
Appended to the end of comments you post. 120 chars.
like combine and decode (ie. multi-part messages),
yEnc encoding,
etc.
I am the maverick of Slashdot
I've found Google Desktop to be handy in finding files (and also emails at work, since we use Outlook). However, no support for Thunderbird email (which I use at home) searching bums me out. Hopefully now that both Firefox and Thunderbird have reached 1.0 they will more strongly consider adding these to the search lineup.
1.0 means they have transitioned from alpha grade early release project to a first beta release.
Thunderbird is missing too many basic features to allow it to be rolled out to corporate users, or family members, or just about anyone not 100% geek. It still doesn't handle outgoing servers correctly. Filtering is difficult to use, can't deal with IMAP correctly, and sometimes just doesn't work at all.
The spam filtering still needs a lot of work, there needs to be an option to white list the entire set of local (and/or ldap) address books, not just a single one. When people keep separate address books for business and personal contacts, you then have to choose which book to whitelist. There's been a bug in bugzilla for quite a while now on that one.
LDAP incompatibilities, IMAP SSL handling, customisable UI, IPv6 support, the list goes on and on. I would have prefered if the dev team spent a few more months dealing with all the little problems that will keep this entirely out of business rollouts, and fixed the minor bugs which have lingered forever.
Maybe with the 1.0 early beta release, the current dev team will move on, and more capable Open Source volunteers will step up and finish the job. I, like many others, were driven away from the forums and bugzilla because of hostile attitudes and incessant bickering over extremely minor points. We tried to help, but some FLOSS projects aren't as deserving as others.
I haven't been able to convince anyone to switch over to 0.9 from outlook, or even Pine (so you know its got to suck). No major feature requests were addressed between 0.9 and 1.0, this is just a minor incremental release.
Yeah, call me cranky too!
the AC
Hemos is like...sci-fi fans;he thinks technology is cool, but he hasn't bothered to understand the science it's based on
Actually if you don't my some lightweight digging, it is pretty easy to move in Windows XP (I just tried it myself).
0. To be safe, close Thunderbird.
1. Create destination folder.
2. Find your current profile folder (the one with the chrome directories. One winodws its usually C:\Documents and Settings\Application Data\Thunderbird\Profiles\Default\)
3. Copy the contents of your profile folder to the destination folder.
4. In the "Application Data\Thunderbird" folder, open the "Profiles.ini" file for editing.
5. Change "IsRelative" to 0
6. Change "Path" to the full path of you profile folder.
7. Save.
When are they going to release the 'Mad Dog 20/20' version 1.0?
putting the 'B' in LGBTQ+
I'm looking to migrate my mail and settings from the Mozilla suite to Thunderbird
Looking through the help files online and googling doesn't give me a straight answer. They all refer to an import utility, but that utility only allows for importing from communicator 4.X.
Any suggestions?
evanchik.net
I tried this out... clicking links in the RSS reader does nothing.
Also, page setup (link style, fonts) should be like I set them in Foxzilla, but aren't.
It seems like this is more like a Foxzilla Part Deux than a mail client.
"Would it kill you to put down the toilet seat?" -- Maya Angelou
Thunderbird is go!
F-A-B
Thunderbird 1.0 RC1 trashed my Outlook 98 (replaced MAPI32.DLL with an incompatible version) installation, so beware !
I've been eyeing thunderbird for a while now and decided to officially convert on my work computer (from outlook express).
So I moved all my messages over and there were nearly 12,000 in my sent items. It took a little while to move but it did keep me updated on the status so I knew it was working.
Afterwards I closed an relaunched and did a compact on sent items. I closed and relaunched again and it appears to have "outlook express" like relfexes when pulling up my sent items.
The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either. - Benjamin Franklin
I use Mozila for my school newsgroup and the site is secured. but i cant seem to get TB to cache and store my password. it is awfully annoying to have to constantly re-enter my password even after i check the remember password box. if anyone knows a solution to this please let me know.
Try this out, let me know if it doesn't work.
Can't help ATM for Firefox mailto: links. Tried searching the MozillaZine forums?
Thunderbird not dispatching URLs to Firefox correctly:
Explorer options, file types, (N/A) HyperText Transfer Protocol, Advanced, Edit, untick "Use DDE"
Well, more than one (plus some territories):
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"I believe that the cult of the particular brings only death - for it bases order on likeness." St.-Exupery
I see I'm still going to be stuck in Windows for my e-mail, since the Linux version of Thunderbird apparently cannot import from anything except Communicator 4.x (gee, that's usefull - I'm sure there's many people using it), and Wine will apparently never be able to run Eudora.
So I ask the Slashdot crew: is there any good e-mail client for Linux which can import mail and filters from Windows-Eudora ?
Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.
As soon as I saw this, I clicked on Tools / Options / Advances / Software Updates Selected Thunderbird and My Extensions & Themes Clicked Check Now "Thunderbird was not able to find any updates."
Armaments, 2-9-21 And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, 'O Lord, bless this Thy hand grenade' N
If you're servicing old machines, you may be servicing machines with an old BIOS that can't boot from USB storage. You may need to carry a bootloader CD as well.
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/lin
To be fair, this should be an option on a configuration menu. You should never have to manually edit a configuration file for something this basic.
A calendar would be nice, but I just wish I could sync my Thunderbird address book with my PDA - it's tiresome to update two different address books, so I don't do it. Then I find myself without an email or a phone number when I need it.
Could it be possible to add either of these with extensions? I'm afraid I don't know much about programming.
Yes, there are women on Slashdot. Deal with it.
See all of my previous rants about what a pile of shit Sunbird is.
.ics file opening in their browser, not adding the event to the calendar.
Even this morning, trying to email a calendar request to another user results in the
That's a *basic feature* that keeps a LOT of people on Outlook. They WANT the clicky clicky "Let me calender you, Mr Coworker!" crap. It doesn't work in Sunbird.
The calendar just plain sucks. There's a HUGE OPPORTUNITY here to attract a LOT of small business/home office users (at least) but they're totally blowing it by pissing away time arguing about the default theme for the application.
Fix the damn calendar, and they will come. Please.
# Why haven't you responded to the mail I sent you?
... apparently the developers don't have very good email clients. They should try Thunderbird - I hear it's pretty good.
Use the forums. The Thunderbird team reads them regularly. We all get a lot of email and your email may get lost.
cyn, free software and *nix operating systems enthusiast.
This is utterly essential for anyone working in support, as you constantly get mail which needs to be handled by someone else, but when you send it to them, you don't want them hitting Reply and having the reply come back to you (as it will with Forward) -- you want it to reply to the original sender by default. Until then I'm stuck with sucky old Evolution...
(I did suggest this feature for Moz on bugzilla once: four years later they're still arguing about it because I used the Elm "b" [bounce] key as an example and some prat hijacked the discussion into thinking I was proposing Moz should act as a spam auto-bouncer -- sheesh :-)
Speaking of tabs, here's why I'm still using the Mozilla Suite instead of Thunderbird + Firefox. Option-clicking on a link in the Mozilla Suite's mail reader opens a new tab in the exisiting Mozilla browser window. Thunderbird doesn't do that (at least on Mac OS X)---all it can do is open a new browser window.
Repeat after me: E-mail clients on Linux are NOT a problem.
:: Email :: Email Clients (MUA)
* Mutt (console based and unlike PINE its Free and better)
* Evolution (for GNOME)
* KMail (for KDE).
* Sylpheed (for GTK+).
* GNUMail (for GNUstep)
* More at Freshmeat.net > Communications
Perhaps redundant links here and there, but this is a good overal start. I excluded Thunderbird and Mozilla because those are heavily known already. Also, some of the above clients might run on other Unices, other OSes -- including MacOSX and Windows.
WE DON'T NEED NO BLOG CONTROL.
Hrm, someone decided this was flamebait. It's not, sorry.
.ics file opening in their browser, not adding the event to the calendar.
" See all of my previous rants about what a pile of shit Sunbird is.
Even this morning, trying to email a calendar request to another user results in the
That's a *basic feature* that keeps a LOT of people on Outlook. They WANT the clicky clicky "Let me calender you, Mr Coworker!" crap. It doesn't work in Sunbird.
The calendar just plain sucks. There's a HUGE OPPORTUNITY here to attract a LOT of small business/home office users (at least) but they're totally blowing it by pissing away time arguing about the default theme for the application.
Fix the damn calendar, and they will come. Please."
Locale would work if for example you assume that an American has only other Americans in his phone book.
Phone numbers aren't free-form. The first few numbers should tell you what country it's in. There are only a few hundred counties - a map of local formats shouldn't be too hard.
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
Actually, this is....how many times /. has posted about firefox 1.0 being out?
What I would like to see in both Thunderbird and Firefox is a way of storing my preferences in a central location (LDAP server, mysql, xml file on a web/ftp server). That way between my work, home and laptops, I can login to the preference server and instantly have all the contacts, favorites, etc... that I have on the other machines.
Believe it or not they make 100MB (!!!!) hard disks now, you can make this problem go away!!!
Hope the spam filtering doesn't suck as badly in 1.0 as it does in 0.7.3 (I once "upgraded" to 0.8.0, but downgraded to 0.7.3 because 0.8.0 wasn't reading my various mail folders correctly for some reason).
The Thunderbird filter catches (guesstimating) about 80% of what comes in -- not bad, except that other filters are supposed to be capable of > 90%... I thought Thunderbird's filter was supposed to implement a Bayes neural-net to detect and thus filter the junk from not-junk?
Is Capitalism Good for the Poor?
You are a snobbish person and I hate you!!!!!!
Everyone's favorite developer of optimized Firefox has gone and made optimized versions of Thunderbird 1.0. MOOX's releases of TB 1.0 deliver the same performance gains as his/her (who the hell is this person anyway) versions of Firefox 1.0. Here is the linky: http://www.moox.ws/tech/mozilla/releasebuilds.htm And yes, this time there are torrents!