1. It was created in relation to the business of the employer (Apple; providing music online from the iTunes music store).
2. It does result from the work performed for the employer. Without knowledge of the system, the employee wouldn't have been able to craft the application.
You mean to tell me that there are a bunch of "socially conscious" people out there that downloaded music from the Internet, only to delete it all when they found out it was illegal? You mean to tell me that there are really that many people out there that are dumb enough to think that downloading music online for free is okay until they hear that it's not somewhere? You mean to tell me that there are really that many people out there on "autopilot", whose brains don't function but once per month? Wait, I'd believe that.
...shifting attention from the fact that their operating system contained critical flaws that allowed the worms to flourish to "they shouldn't have exploited them." So... it looks to me as if (of course Microsoft is piloting the program) software security is no longer an issue. You can write as much crappy code as you want, leave it full of swiss-cheese-like holes, and then offer up bounties and prosecute those who actually take advantage of them. Strange... this sounds an awful lot like the "if I don't lock my front door and someone breaks in, should I prosecute them" conversation I had a week ago. Anyhow, $250k is a small price to pay for a little diversion. It also makes the blame game a lot easier to win... you know... if you're a total idiot and don't see what's going on.
By that rationale (and I want to preface this by saying I totally agree with you), the RIAA would *BENEFIT* if people stole recorded works.
By copying, people can distribute copies to other individuals and retain the ability to use them themselves at the same time.
If this were truly stealing, the original holder would lose the ability to play the song and the new holder (the one who stole it) would have use of it.
Isn't that the kind of fair use that the RIAA has no problem with?
For instance, I buy a CD from Jam Master R, I get sick of it and I give it to my friend. I no longer have use of it, and my friend now does. They don't have a problem with that. Why should they have a problem with people stealing music?
What about the Kroger Plus Card, and the equivalent that every other store has? It allows your purchases to be tracked on a per-capita basis and material to be directly marketed to you. This is no more an invasion of privacy than the Kroger card.
1. These companies start charging. 2. The open source community creates a new protocol and clients for free. 3. People start using those clients. 4. Government steps in and regulates it under the auspices of terrorism or child pornography prevention. 5. New protocol created. 6. GOTO 2.
I am definitely laughing.. and hard.:) I'm glad someone else had the same internal reaction I did. No matter what anyone says, my opinion will not change; that is that this entire debacle is about MONEY. The "good parents" just want to make a quick buck, and they figure the only way of obtaining any measurable return is to get class-action status. They're banking on the idea that theywill only be able to get a few nutcases interested in joining the class, so the payout per capita is likely to be larger. These people should be ground up and fed to hungry pigs. So should anyone else that uses their kids or their kid's health/intellect for personal gain.
Apparently this is to appeal to the millions of future starving artists out there. There might be ONE kid in the class who wants to become a musician, and that one kid may or may not "get it." What about the rest of the kids who want to become scientists, mathemeticians, IT professionals, business experts, etc? All it's going to do is bore them to death. Why would they want to jeopardize the one way they have to get music they can afford? Now, when the economy picks back up, the kids will have more discretionary income/spending money. They will be able to go out and buy the music they like because they aren't FLAT BROKE like most people out there nowadays. The music industry will declare their propaganda campaign a success because, hey, kids are buying more and not downloading as much.
Heh. I like a good-natured banter. I was giving it a little too much negative energy earlier because some other guy was pissing me off with his pugnacious attitude and flamebait comments.
I'll sum the above up by saying this: making further statements about how something I said doesn't make sense or asking questions rather than just IGNORING them provides further evidence that I was correct in assuming that you were just looking for someone to pick on. Try calling the IRS. They'll be happy to give you a different story every time you call and split hairs over the most minute details.
I can see it now... 'penis enlargement guaranteed' popping up at random places in the database. You'll have to type "I do not want a bigger penis" to remove them all. Heh.
That doesn't extend as far as making comments about how they don't understand how something is funny, when it was obviously intended to be. I can see not laughing or moving right along, but not stopping to make a comment about it. You were obviously fishing for people you could attack. Go ahead. Have fun.
Actually, your own logic has defeated you. Out of context, and with no prior knowledge of you, any reasonably-able person would assume you are a football player if you were photographed in front of football equipment or were wearing it. A large number of those people would assume you are a football player if you were simply photographed on a football field. That's how advertising works.
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Thank you for pointing number two out. I was not aware of that. Disregard comment :)
1. It was created in relation to the business of the employer (Apple; providing music online from the iTunes music store).
2. It does result from the work performed for the employer. Without knowledge of the system, the employee wouldn't have been able to craft the application.
Note the lack of authorship attached to the story ;) Telling.
You mean to tell me that there are a bunch of "socially conscious" people out there that downloaded music from the Internet, only to delete it all when they found out it was illegal?
You mean to tell me that there are really that many people out there that are dumb enough to think that downloading music online for free is okay until they hear that it's not somewhere? You mean to tell me that there are really that many people out there on "autopilot", whose brains don't function but once per month?
Wait, I'd believe that.
...shifting attention from the fact that their operating system contained critical flaws that allowed the worms to flourish to "they shouldn't have exploited them."
So... it looks to me as if (of course Microsoft is piloting the program) software security is no longer an issue. You can write as much crappy code as you want, leave it full of swiss-cheese-like holes, and then offer up bounties and prosecute those who actually take advantage of them.
Strange... this sounds an awful lot like the "if I don't lock my front door and someone breaks in, should I prosecute them" conversation I had a week ago.
Anyhow, $250k is a small price to pay for a little diversion. It also makes the blame game a lot easier to win... you know... if you're a total idiot and don't see what's going on.
Nice one ;)
By that rationale (and I want to preface this by saying I totally agree with you), the RIAA would *BENEFIT* if people stole recorded works.
By copying, people can distribute copies to other individuals and retain the ability to use them themselves at the same time.
If this were truly stealing, the original holder would lose the ability to play the song and the new holder (the one who stole it) would have use of it.
Isn't that the kind of fair use that the RIAA has no problem with?
For instance, I buy a CD from Jam Master R, I get sick of it and I give it to my friend. I no longer have use of it, and my friend now does. They don't have a problem with that. Why should they have a problem with people stealing music?
LOL
What about the Kroger Plus Card, and the equivalent that every other store has? It allows your purchases to be tracked on a per-capita basis and material to be directly marketed to you. This is no more an invasion of privacy than the Kroger card.
1. These companies start charging.
2. The open source community creates a new protocol and clients for free.
3. People start using those clients.
4. Government steps in and regulates it under the auspices of terrorism or child pornography prevention.
5. New protocol created.
6. GOTO 2.
Sheesh.
I am definitely laughing.. and hard. :) I'm glad someone else had the same internal reaction I did.
No matter what anyone says, my opinion will not change; that is that this entire debacle is about MONEY. The "good parents" just want to make a quick buck, and they figure the only way of obtaining any measurable return is to get class-action status. They're banking on the idea that theywill only be able to get a few nutcases interested in joining the class, so the payout per capita is likely to be larger.
These people should be ground up and fed to hungry pigs. So should anyone else that uses their kids or their kid's health/intellect for personal gain.
"We have never and do not engage in anti-competitive practices."
HAHAHAHAHA.. Hahaha.. ha.. that was good.
Apparently this is to appeal to the millions of future starving artists out there.
There might be ONE kid in the class who wants to become a musician, and that one kid may or may not "get it."
What about the rest of the kids who want to become scientists, mathemeticians, IT professionals, business experts, etc? All it's going to do is bore them to death. Why would they want to jeopardize the one way they have to get music they can afford?
Now, when the economy picks back up, the kids will have more discretionary income/spending money. They will be able to go out and buy the music they like because they aren't FLAT BROKE like most people out there nowadays.
The music industry will declare their propaganda campaign a success because, hey, kids are buying more and not downloading as much.
Idiots.
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It's a shame that the mother was so willing to pay up. What you said rings very true.
Heh. I like a good-natured banter. I was giving it a little too much negative energy earlier because some other guy was pissing me off with his pugnacious attitude and flamebait comments.
Yeah... my karma rating sure demonstrates that.
I'll sum the above up by saying this: making further statements about how something I said doesn't make sense or asking questions rather than just IGNORING them provides further evidence that I was correct in assuming that you were just looking for someone to pick on.
Try calling the IRS. They'll be happy to give you a different story every time you call and split hairs over the most minute details.
I would imagine that's because not many people here WANT Longhorn and can't AFFORD Oracle IFS.
I'm sure glad SOMEONE else gets it. *bangs head on desk*
I can see it now... 'penis enlargement guaranteed' popping up at random places in the database.
You'll have to type "I do not want a bigger penis" to remove them all.
Heh.
That doesn't extend as far as making comments about how they don't understand how something is funny, when it was obviously intended to be.
I can see not laughing or moving right along, but not stopping to make a comment about it. You were obviously fishing for people you could attack. Go ahead. Have fun.
Actually, your own logic has defeated you.
Out of context, and with no prior knowledge of you, any reasonably-able person would assume you are a football player if you were photographed in front of football equipment or were wearing it.
A large number of those people would assume you are a football player if you were simply photographed on a football field.
That's how advertising works.
...on how long until HP gets sued by M$? ;)
That makes him just like most of the management at the place I work at come to think of it.
...and you beat me to it. Damn.