Basically their proprietary IOS operating system is making way for Linux (a distro which they purchased if memory serves me correctly). I think this may be a case of "don't let the facts get in the way of a good old fashioned long-haired troll".
I'm all for linux, but isn't the whole idea open source, low cost and "do it yourself"?
Where did you get that idea? It's just about code efficiency - if someone's already invented the wheel why keep on reinventing it over and over again.
As for low cost, Cisco routers run linux, the top supercomputer in the world runs linux, Google's server farm runs linux. I'm not sure that "low cost and do it yourself" is really that much of a part of the open source requirements.
It's not Photoshop or heavy-media type applications you should be thinking of, it's the simple end-user-interacts-with-database type applications - where you don't need to have lightning-fast feedback. It's the sort of applications that can work fairly well even as "traditional" web applications - eg. webmail, usenet, flickr, etc.
The summary asked "Will AJAX Threaten Windows Desktop?" I assumed he meant binary programming with that statement. Anyway Photoshop or heavy-media-type applications are part of the binary programming, and since that's not going to be achieved in AJAX any time soon I don't see it overwhelming binary programming.
I doubt it. AJAX is good for applications that *need* the internet (Google Maps -> streaming map data. GMail -> email). In my opinion they will never really replace pure binaries.
After all, why use a web based program when a binary runs several thousand times faster, you can save data on your hard drive a lot easier and there's no lag in downloading or streaming new data for the next web page.
This (not yours, P, the general KDevelop vs VS) argument is silly at best. I'd say it even descends to the level of Gimp vs. Photoshop. I love KDevelop, and I also love VS (the best piece of software Microsoft has released ever perhaps). I love the intellisense and the VS6.0 interface, but I also love the automatic syntax error correction in KDevelop.
The IDEs are two different things with surprisingly different feature sets and ways about doing things. If you think one's better than the other then that's just because the extra features that IDE has over the other are more important.
(Incidentely KDE's code indenting is quite a bit more powerful than VS's - it has templates for standard indentation styles [including ANSI, K&R, the Linux standard and a few more] that you may like to follow)
How come the Google icon gets put away for negative stories that aren't about Google? I want a google icon on every story with a search engine or and advertiser in it or if it's about computers! It's a conspiracy god damn it!
Actually this metaphor is flawed. Cisco is not at risk with this flaw, it's the customers of Cisco. A better metaphor is a lock company producing faulty locks and selling a few hundred thousand of these. So he told the lock manufacturer and they pushed him off so then he went public so all of the users of the locks could know about it.
So unless you know of a way to confidentially tell every single user of the router that there's a hugely bad security flaw in their router and that the company has lied about this flaw I think that was exactly the right thing to do. Otherwise, chances are someone else would find out who has a few less scruples.
Why make a compatability layer for Windows on Linux? Because that's one of the greatest things about Open Source. It's extendable and interoperable. The reason for Wine is not to make Linux "more ready for the desktop" but to extend and enhance the power of Linux.
Not only this, but lets say that noone does anything to create Windows compatability and Linux does overthrow the Windows monopoly. If nothing is done then there will be 15 years of Windows and Dos compatible programs that are lost. All of the games that many kids have grown up with won't be able to be run on a modern computer. Many undocumented file formats (and the files encoded in them), without the programs to run them will be lost, a problem plaguing us already.
This is not the operating systems version of the penis measuring contest, but a serious software endevour.
(yes, but I really like the fact that now Gnome is copying System7. Actually it's really a progress - all the usability quirks from Microsoft Windows have been copied already, yes?)
I laughed when I saw that. From what I understand the Gnome dialogue boxes have OK on the different side to Windows purely because they didn't want to do anything windows does. Correct me if that rumour's wrong, but it is funny anyway!
What is this crap about Linux copying everything Windows does anyway? People seem to see KDE or Gnome and say "OMG you have a taskbar, Linux must be the same as Windows!" "OMFG you have an internet browser! SO DOES WINDOWS!" "OMG, there's a place to configure your system in Linux. You can configure your system IN WINDOWS TOO YOU FUCKING PLAGERIST!!!
Are we the only country with a leader who went swimming and never came back?
(Note that, since I have space to use up for the spam filter, there are several ironically named swimming pools named after former Prime Minister Harold Holt, as well as an American Frigate.
Exactly. I'm actually programming a small GUI class at the moment for a C++ OpenGL project I'm working on, and inheritance for the widgets make a lot of sense, simply because when you have the three events that I need to account for (render, mouse click and mouse move) it is extremely simple and convenient to have a base class with the three virtual functions in a linked list so the GUI class can loop through them.
Inheritance and composition are different tools, and are used for different purposes. Sure sometimes they overlap, but most of the time they achieve different things.
Slashdot Mirror
Ahem.
Basically their proprietary IOS operating system is making way for Linux (a distro which they purchased if memory serves me correctly). I think this may be a case of "don't let the facts get in the way of a good old fashioned long-haired troll".
And yes, those new routers are *very* expensive!
I'm all for linux, but isn't the whole idea open source, low cost and "do it yourself"?
Where did you get that idea? It's just about code efficiency - if someone's already invented the wheel why keep on reinventing it over and over again.
As for low cost, Cisco routers run linux, the top supercomputer in the world runs linux, Google's server farm runs linux. I'm not sure that "low cost and do it yourself" is really that much of a part of the open source requirements.
It's not Photoshop or heavy-media type applications you should be thinking of, it's the simple end-user-interacts-with-database type applications - where you don't need to have lightning-fast feedback. It's the sort of applications that can work fairly well even as "traditional" web applications - eg. webmail, usenet, flickr, etc.
The summary asked "Will AJAX Threaten Windows Desktop?" I assumed he meant binary programming with that statement. Anyway Photoshop or heavy-media-type applications are part of the binary programming, and since that's not going to be achieved in AJAX any time soon I don't see it overwhelming binary programming.
I doubt it. AJAX is good for applications that *need* the internet (Google Maps -> streaming map data. GMail -> email). In my opinion they will never really replace pure binaries.
No. Any questions?
After all, why use a web based program when a binary runs several thousand times faster, you can save data on your hard drive a lot easier and there's no lag in downloading or streaming new data for the next web page.
Sorry everyone, but it's not going to happen.
This (not yours, P, the general KDevelop vs VS) argument is silly at best. I'd say it even descends to the level of Gimp vs. Photoshop. I love KDevelop, and I also love VS (the best piece of software Microsoft has released ever perhaps). I love the intellisense and the VS6.0 interface, but I also love the automatic syntax error correction in KDevelop.
The IDEs are two different things with surprisingly different feature sets and ways about doing things. If you think one's better than the other then that's just because the extra features that IDE has over the other are more important.
yes it does on both counts.
(Incidentely KDE's code indenting is quite a bit more powerful than VS's - it has templates for standard indentation styles [including ANSI, K&R, the Linux standard and a few more] that you may like to follow)
Thankfully, things have changed in the last 20 years and in even five years time such devices may be practical.
Because I find linux to be more secure, more powerful, looks better and is easier to use.
That doesn't stop people from generating a random file 700MB big and calling it Serenity.Leaked.avi
How come the Google icon gets put away for negative stories that aren't about Google? I want a google icon on every story with a search engine or and advertiser in it or if it's about computers! It's a conspiracy god damn it!
I don't think that you're going to like the answer.
Microsoft: Yes we have tried Linux and god everyone thinks it's so much better than anything we can come up with. Please don't tell anyone about it.
Actually this metaphor is flawed. Cisco is not at risk with this flaw, it's the customers of Cisco. A better metaphor is a lock company producing faulty locks and selling a few hundred thousand of these. So he told the lock manufacturer and they pushed him off so then he went public so all of the users of the locks could know about it.
So unless you know of a way to confidentially tell every single user of the router that there's a hugely bad security flaw in their router and that the company has lied about this flaw I think that was exactly the right thing to do. Otherwise, chances are someone else would find out who has a few less scruples.
Do they run Linux on this toaster?
Why make a compatability layer for Windows on Linux? Because that's one of the greatest things about Open Source. It's extendable and interoperable. The reason for Wine is not to make Linux "more ready for the desktop" but to extend and enhance the power of Linux.
Not only this, but lets say that noone does anything to create Windows compatability and Linux does overthrow the Windows monopoly. If nothing is done then there will be 15 years of Windows and Dos compatible programs that are lost. All of the games that many kids have grown up with won't be able to be run on a modern computer. Many undocumented file formats (and the files encoded in them), without the programs to run them will be lost, a problem plaguing us already.
This is not the operating systems version of the penis measuring contest, but a serious software endevour.
I was very serious :) It's never going to be practical to do this in real life situations but for competitions and the such it's how it's done.
Going from the top of one mountain to the top of another.
The world is round, you isolationist priest!
You don't think they can get ahold of 16-20 year old computer geeks who dwell in their parent's basement?
Far more likely, I think they'd get hold of a 35+ year old's computers that they use for letter writing and browsing the web thing.
no but the lack of it is one of the reasons why a lot of newbies looking to try Composite get bad performance.
(yes, but I really like the fact that now Gnome is copying System7. Actually it's really a progress - all the usability quirks from Microsoft Windows have been copied already, yes?)
I laughed when I saw that. From what I understand the Gnome dialogue boxes have OK on the different side to Windows purely because they didn't want to do anything windows does. Correct me if that rumour's wrong, but it is funny anyway!
What is this crap about Linux copying everything Windows does anyway? People seem to see KDE or Gnome and say
"OMG you have a taskbar, Linux must be the same as Windows!"
"OMFG you have an internet browser! SO DOES WINDOWS!"
"OMG, there's a place to configure your system in Linux. You can configure your system IN WINDOWS TOO YOU FUCKING PLAGERIST!!!
Are we the only country with a leader who went swimming and never came back?
(Note that, since I have space to use up for the spam filter, there are several ironically named swimming pools named after former Prime Minister Harold Holt, as well as an American Frigate.
Exactly. I'm actually programming a small GUI class at the moment for a C++ OpenGL project I'm working on, and inheritance for the widgets make a lot of sense, simply because when you have the three events that I need to account for (render, mouse click and mouse move) it is extremely simple and convenient to have a base class with the three virtual functions in a linked list so the GUI class can loop through them.
Inheritance and composition are different tools, and are used for different purposes. Sure sometimes they overlap, but most of the time they achieve different things.
Wow, I always wondered what Google was. I guess I should have googled it.