heh, I just tripped on the line About as soon as Mozilla/Firefox is dead, but no I didn't miss your point, and agreed with you. The thing is it's different now though - Microsoft aren't battling a company, they're battling a community. They just can't destroy it, even with their huge marketting power.
I hate to break it to you mate but Firefox won't die anytime soon, even if its market share shrinks to one percent or something. It's OSS not a company - they don't have financial difficulties with continuing development like Netscape.
*sigh* You've got your comparison wrong there mate.
I set up RH 8 or 9. I still haven't gotten samba working to where I can access the machine from my windows machines. I tried setting up webmin to set up samba in turn, but webmin isn't running. Obviously I'm doing something wrong and I need to troubleshoot it (I've heard this a thousand times from my geek buddies), but I don't want to waste any more time on it. The machine would be running windows if I could do software raid on it.
Now I would accept that but RH8 and RH9 are enterprise editions, similar to Debian et al. The average linux user can't install Red Hat or Debian on a desktop computer.
My brother works at a large ISP and their mainframe servers are running Red Hat. You're comparing Windows XP Home to what is the linux equivalent to Windows Server 2003 Datacenter Edition.
Perhaps you might do better trying a desktop linux distribution on a desktop pc (and yes desktop pcs do include the ones that have 4x80gb hard drives, that's rare but nothing special in the greater scheme of things). I think you might do better with Ubuntu (or Kubuntu), Mepis or Mandrake. All can easily be installed by anyone who can read and knows basically how to use a computer (even a Windows machine).
I don't understand. First you say that Longhorn will sell more retail copies than XP, yet you say that Microsoft will lose the war before Longhorn's expected release in ten years.
he wasn't downplaying it. That exploit is totally non-exploitable now, since it relies on there being an installable file on a whitelisted site. Since update.mozilla.org was whitelisted by default, exploit code could just choose a file from there (Flashgot was used in the example).
However all mozilla did was change update.mozilla.org to do-not-add.mozilla.org with a huge notice saying "do not add this site to your whitelist". It won't go back to update.mozilla.org until at least Firefox 1.1 is out and they are certain that people have upgraded, if ever.
plenty of people think that the level of support in OSS is superior to that of Windows, simply because you can have competition of support. Businesses etc pay third parties to support their software. Simple competition between those third parties drives down cost of support and generally raises service.
In reality it probably is though. Microsoft don't make software for other x86 operating systems (I assume linux is the choise here), so if you dump Windows then you tend to dump Microsoft totally. Also Microsoft would be quite unlikely to give the same bulk discounts that they are currently giving the schools if the schools aren't actually buying their entire software package.
would you rather have Microsoft on your computers or have both Linux on your computers + a few extra teachers? There's always a bit of a trade-off, and I think that not spending money wisely is even worse for the educational system.
I must admit I had a little laugh at that since it works fine in Xine for Linux (and I'd assume it'd work fine in Macs as well). It is only 71 characters after all, what is the longest filename length supported in Windows?
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I believe they want to use it instead of silicon as opposed to copper because of it's semiconductor capabilities.
exactly my opinion.
Perhaps the MS zealots should repeat after me: "The reason there are viruses on Windows is because Microsoft makes faulty software."
I think the first lawsuits will arrive just days after the Microsoft Anti-Virus release.
heh, I just tripped on the line About as soon as Mozilla/Firefox is dead, but no I didn't miss your point, and agreed with you. The thing is it's different now though - Microsoft aren't battling a company, they're battling a community. They just can't destroy it, even with their huge marketting power.
I hate to break it to you mate but Firefox won't die anytime soon, even if its market share shrinks to one percent or something. It's OSS not a company - they don't have financial difficulties with continuing development like Netscape.
most browser exploits are buffer overflows - giving wierd input. To combat that you have to add code (input checking), not change code.
Besides OSS like Firefox definitely has QA built into it.
*sigh* You've got your comparison wrong there mate.
I set up RH 8 or 9. I still haven't gotten samba working to where I can access the machine from my windows machines. I tried setting up webmin to set up samba in turn, but webmin isn't running. Obviously I'm doing something wrong and I need to troubleshoot it (I've heard this a thousand times from my geek buddies), but I don't want to waste any more time on it. The machine would be running windows if I could do software raid on it.
Now I would accept that but RH8 and RH9 are enterprise editions, similar to Debian et al. The average linux user can't install Red Hat or Debian on a desktop computer.
My brother works at a large ISP and their mainframe servers are running Red Hat. You're comparing Windows XP Home to what is the linux equivalent to Windows Server 2003 Datacenter Edition.
Perhaps you might do better trying a desktop linux distribution on a desktop pc (and yes desktop pcs do include the ones that have 4x80gb hard drives, that's rare but nothing special in the greater scheme of things). I think you might do better with Ubuntu (or Kubuntu), Mepis or Mandrake. All can easily be installed by anyone who can read and knows basically how to use a computer (even a Windows machine).
well shit I was wondering why so many people chose economics! I should have checked up on it a bit more.
yeah and I'm taking a sickie from my job at a movie theatre to go Star Wars. Think of the poor cinemas!
QT is open source however, so it's a different situation. They just use the same method of dual-licensing as MySQL.
Perhaps you're onto something. I wonder if I could hire a lawyer to pretend to sue me for every article that I begin to write?
again, great article and all, but wouldn't it have been just quicker to list the open source projects that haven't been ripped off by MXS?
Oh the serverity!
I don't understand. First you say that Longhorn will sell more retail copies than XP, yet you say that Microsoft will lose the war before Longhorn's expected release in ten years.
he wasn't downplaying it. That exploit is totally non-exploitable now, since it relies on there being an installable file on a whitelisted site. Since update.mozilla.org was whitelisted by default, exploit code could just choose a file from there (Flashgot was used in the example).
However all mozilla did was change update.mozilla.org to do-not-add.mozilla.org with a huge notice saying "do not add this site to your whitelist". It won't go back to update.mozilla.org until at least Firefox 1.1 is out and they are certain that people have upgraded, if ever.
They're a company, which means that if the shareholders decide to liquidate or pull out due to bad performance then MS will easily die.
Can is not the problem, will is.
plenty of people think that the level of support in OSS is superior to that of Windows, simply because you can have competition of support. Businesses etc pay third parties to support their software. Simple competition between those third parties drives down cost of support and generally raises service.
If the job involved a lot of Microsoft Office, he might add "Can you take an evening course over at $(LOCALCOLLEGE)?
Gee, I wonder if you are on the MS side or the OSS side?
In reality it probably is though. Microsoft don't make software for other x86 operating systems (I assume linux is the choise here), so if you dump Windows then you tend to dump Microsoft totally. Also Microsoft would be quite unlikely to give the same bulk discounts that they are currently giving the schools if the schools aren't actually buying their entire software package.
would you rather have Microsoft on your computers or have both Linux on your computers + a few extra teachers? There's always a bit of a trade-off, and I think that not spending money wisely is even worse for the educational system.
I don't know, if not it should be.
why? Wouldn't a visa card be functionally the same no matter where you get it?
"I know that individually you can be nice people, but collectively .. that leaves a lot to be debated."
Have you seen the famous Roy and HG dialogue in the Dream about that topic?
I must admit I had a little laugh at that since it works fine in Xine for Linux (and I'd assume it'd work fine in Macs as well). It is only 71 characters after all, what is the longest filename length supported in Windows?
don't you think it'd be a bit of an anti-climax to get a pink screen of death though?
I seem to be standing corrected. I am, of course, an Australian who is using actual British English.